COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster

I bet he surfs more than you jq, ...probably gets a lot more mores too...

all while fulfilling the role of a carer

he's doing something right

What are 'mores'?

"You think it's balanced Indo?

I don't."

Im not sure what you mean?...im not suggesting the forums are balanced or not suggesting the views of those posters are balanced, I'm just suggesting these posters and myself even yourself are important in providing some type of balance here, without us it would just be an echo chamber of sorts.

But yeah the forums are not a reflection of the balance in wider society on topics/issues/discussions or even in the surfing community.

If you have ever seen Jim banks FB post and all the other comments under them you will see what i mean, you know the funny thing is a while back (before he JB blocked me) i actually found myself liking Laurie's comments under Jim banks post as they were the only half sensible comments which is funny because here we our views are polar opposites.

more more of everything...

and mores too

The concept of balance has suffered a great deal of abuse in the last decade. It has become an excuse for sane, reasonable views supported by evidence to be "balanced" by unreasonable nonsense vomited up without any respect for reality. In short "balance" is frequently used to justify completely unbalanced views. You might be entitled to your opinions but when they are unsubstaniated bullshit, you have no claim on promoting them in the name of "balance".

All that may be true sypkan, neither of us really knows. He can certainly only dream of ever being as awesome as me though.

I'm sure that may be true jq...

I just know not many fifo monkeys get their shit together as much, or as early as blowin did

the 'opportunities' are a trap in themselves...

the guy clearly got out, and is getting about, while there's still a flicker of flame

not many do

Sepp, you realise Trump is fulla shit, yeah?

Well, you used to.

Our Trump has certainly sucked you into his vortex.

And again...

Sepp, what is a 'deplorable'? Are you one, or just feel the need to nobly go to bat for them? Regardless of what they think, feel, are informed by?

And what is my "ridiculous, earnestly stubborn, yet disintergrating before our very eyes world view"?

I know he's full of shit

still...

but I also know you are full of shit

yet he is 'winning'

I know we're not really winning, but he is most certainly winning, and therein lays your problem...

your challenge is you're yet to accept it

still...

Blowfly, of course that is spot on. Sad state of affairs that it needs to be said again, and again, and again.

Jeezus, remember when Brian Cox was on QANDA and had to 'debate' Malcolm Roberts on the existence of climate change, let alone what can be done about it.

Fuck me, what a waste of precious time.

What about our very own Swellnet Trumpy again?

And again, 3rd times a charm...

Sepp, what is a 'deplorable'? Are you one, or just feel the need to nobly go to bat for them? Regardless of what they think, feel, are informed by?

And what is my "ridiculous, earnestly stubborn, yet disintergrating before our very eyes world view"?

Take a deep breath...

you don't deserve those answers

you give nothing

but you get it

I think... hope...

maybe not

You should know better than asking 'tricky' questions facto. Can you imagine the fallout if some genuine self-reflection was undertaken?

no offence jq, but you're pretty new round here

facto (and his various personalities) is / are notorious round here for not answering questions and for giving nothing of the self

he's pretty bad at self reflection too...

so you are way off the mark there mate

if he was honest or being even remotely genuine, we've actually already been through all this a number of times

facto is just fishing for another belittlement opportunity

"facto (and his various personalities) is / are notorious round here for not answering questions and for giving nothing of the self

he's pretty bad at self reflection too..."

"facto is just fishing for another belittlement opportunity"

100%

Still not reading and taking your own whiny advice, Info?

Love that signature too, by the way, snowflake.

When's MB get a guernsey?

And Sepp, why would anyone in their right mind, rely on you for any insight into what's what on here? You don't even know what you post yourself daily, sometimes not even what you blurt out in the same post, let alone what's my "ridiculous, earnestly stubborn, yet disintergrating before our very eyes world view" according to you??

So, no answer, as usual. We get it.

You're a self-defined 'deplorable' whatever the fuck that entails.

Just keep pumping out your meaningless buzzwords and other slurry, without question then!

Kool.

And you wonder why nobody but Info and Aussie Trumpy/Blowhard/Sweetie (maybe not even them?) takes your shallow speed-slop even remotely seriously?!

if I'm so full of shit, then why are you guys so perpetually triggered?

permanently

surely if I speak so much bullshit you've got nothing to worry about, you can ignore me, and you can just continue bouncing off your hyper partisan echo chamber

but you don't

because Im not

as to the rest, look it up hilary

you get it, ...surely by now, ....surely? ...but probably not,

you and facto are both clearly terrible at self reflection...

Official Australian + States + Demographics Covid-19 (Detailed Data sets )

Communicable Diseases Intelligence
National Incident Room Surveillance Team

COVID-19 Australia Epidemiology (Fortnightly) Reports
https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/novel_co...

Just a bump, was reading this morning of increased 2nd wave outbreaks in Europe and large 1st waves continuing in the developing world. From memory
UK 4000+ infections a day recently, they are sounding out another lockdown
France 7 day average up at 10,000 a day!
India - high 80,000s to 90,000s per day
Indo hospital system under pressure

France, India, and the UK are basket cases and the third wave is starting in the USA.
I'm tipping the USA is going to be smashed in the third wave, which is spreading quickly in universities and at events like the Sturgis motorbike festival.
Trump's rallies all of the country, with fucking muppets who think Covid 19 is a hoax, is just bat shit crazy.
Deluded anti-science muppets, a crackpot leader who doesn't give a shit about anyone but himself, an approaching winter, and an election that's going to end in violence. What a fucking mess.

So hard to know what to believe with all this Covid stuff.

For example on the ABC radio i hear so many conflicting so called expert views, I've heard so much positive stuff on vaccines that look to be effective experts real positive talking it all up with optimism.

Then yesterday i heard another so called expert still saying its unlikely we will ever get an effective vaccine as its a coronavirus.

ID you are 100% correct, it is hard (nay on impossible) to disseminate all the information, misinformation and conflicting "expert" opinion around COVID vaccines.

The best strategy is to minimise you and your families risk of getting it (unless we do get a safe, effective vaccine...the big if!). Social distancing, hand washing and for us in Vic, face masks.

A colleague of mine got it in March, she is a reasonably fit and healthy 45 year old with nil pre-existing co-morbidities, secondary to transporting a positive inpatient. She required no hospitalisation, but still has quite debilitating symptoms 6 months later (unprovoked/paroxysmal tachycardia and SOB). She can only do limited managerial duties (no clinical shifts) and will be on Workcover for another 6 months. She is OK with me mentioning her case, for those concerned with privacy and confidentiality.

You don't want this virus.

Reckon the fact is that no-one, not scientists, citizens, or policymakers, have the luxury of time, which would usually be spent working theories back and forth in scientific journals away from public examination, so Joe Public has become an unwitting passenger in science-on-the-run.

I think it's good the public sees how science works, how theories are settled, but unfortunately the case studies are real life, our lives, and it's puzzling and disruptive.

You don’t want this virus

*because of the unlikely but possible chance that you could react to it like above

Shoredump, the more pertinent questions are, are you prepared to take that risk, and potentially affect those around you? and why is it unlikely?

Stu,
You are right it is "science on the run", in 5 years time there will 100000 Phd's produced from this pandemic and we will have a pretty good understanding of it. But in the meantime we are all part of a giant, disruptive and poorly understood scientific experiment with no clear end point (at this stage).

Just to get out ahead of the curve...

I predict those "100,000 PhD's" will somehow be twisted into a new chapter of the plandemic narrative. Something about hackacdemics milking the teat for funds when the answers are already on Facebook.

Yep Science on the run....except we have the media, as well as social media, incorrectly (and relentlessly) filling in the gaps with opinions on a daily basis.

The science for this will take years, but the public is being fed these opinions daily.

What could go wrong!?

I don’t want it but yes I do take the risk of still going out the door just to surf or grab an icecream, all reasonable measures taken of course.

I know someone who hasn’t swam in the ocean for 20 years due to the risk of shark attack.

Unlikely? That’s the stats.
Approximately 70,000 Australians infected just before Victoria’s 2nd wave, and no way was there 35,000 serious outcomes, in fact the majority didn’t know they had it, that’s why that number only came about through antibody studies.

100% you can be unlucky to catch it then unlucky once again to fall seriously ill from it

One of the biggest killers in Australia remains suicide, and the fear of covid has exacerbated it unfortunately.
This is the reason I attempt to keep the chat closely aligned to reality.

everything in life is russian roulette to some extent, but the thing with being blase about this virus is that you're not just pointing the gun at your own head

I see Trumpy is still on the "Plan for the best, hope the worst doesn't happen" option. Don't bother trying to push the US / British / Swedish pandemic response option here folks. I'm in no mode for that special brand of stupid.

Hi Shoredump,
I'm glad you're taking reasonable measures to minimise your risk, I'm not advocating total isolation but using a false comparison "someone who hasn't swum in the sea for 20 years" is not particularly useful.
I agree that mental health issues being exacerbated by the pandemic/fear of the virus is a huge problem, the fall-out from that will a long term and on-going problems for families, loved ones and our health system. This will be one of many "hidden" or poorly reported 'costs' of the pandemic.
The problem with this pandemic is that really we know incredibly little about novel corona viruses and from previous outbreaks (I use the term advisedly) of SARS etc. have shown how poorly equipped we are to combat its' spread and to even produce some form of vaccine.
What I fear is that we have very little understanding of the longer term impacts on peoples health and with that in mind I think it is totally reasonable to want to ameliorate any potential exposure.
I hope that clarifies my POV.

I agree sG, wasn’t trying to counter you, just adding to what you said earlier

@synchrodogcal
My favourite personality type for 2020 is without a doubt the Covid behaviour nazi climate denier

Covid -19 " Unmasked " Timeline (Part 1)

Recap to Spanish Flu Shooting
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1269659/coronavirus-outbreak-spanis...

2020 Maskurbation will make you go blind

Jan - China Man found dead on his back in the street with Mask intact?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/coronavirus-latest-china-w...
April - Philippines 63 y/old refuses Police Mask request, pulls knife then Shot Dead.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/philippines-man-refusing-wear-f...
April - US Philadelphia "A dozen Cops drag an unmasked man off a Bus.(Crazy!)
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/04/philly-police-drag-man-from-bus-...
May US Alabama Unmasked man shoots Waffle House Cook over mask request.
https://www.insider.com/man-shoots-waffle-house-cook-over-wearing-face-m...
Song :

Trump's Bizarre Drug Cocktail is driving up his & backer's Big Pharm shares.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8800021/Experimental-Regenero...
Gotta wonder what the hell is going on here...is he really taking these drugs?
Each of the Drugs are used as trials in Hospitals but seldom used together.
In fact they're most vague on this point...What happened to that other Guy?

Medico's warn any experimental unregulated Drug Cocktail like this, spells danger...
Not long ago everyone screamed at Pres' for swallowing backpacker tabs.

Now he's ill & swallows buckets of unknown Pills and all pat him on the back!
Just how sick or not is the President & what example does this set...
Do we all now need several doses of rarest drugs just for kicks.(Wealthy only!)
If these drugs merely suppress the virus then Trump will be contagious for longer.

Is it possible he's selling US Big Pharm whilst travelling Ok!
Vicks Vapor rubs wipe out Covid > Butter Menthol shares are up! All too creepy!
Just sounds weird that #1 patient confidentiality is breached & SOLD as a scam?
President had 2 Weet Bix + half teaspoon of crushed aspro...something's not right!

President is exampling that if you have buckets of money you can buy immunity.
Taste Testing VIP Covid cocktails could backfire in a serious way...So be it!

ID there are two (or more) parts to an effective vaccine.

1. Is to prevent you from contracting the virus (really hard to do but possible)
2. You get the virus but don't go on to develop the full blown disease.
3. You get the virus go on to develop the disease but don't die.
4. You get the virus / disease and die but the over all numbers are similar to the flu.

That's before you get to the bit about having more than one vaccine (which is a likely out come) to improve your chances of survival.

The vaccines will come....when and how we will find out in 10 years time as to their effectiveness.

TB Trumps in real trouble if they are throwing trial drugs at him already.

President of USA : "Immaculate abortion cocktail is a Blessing from God."

Trump bans all abortion tissue drug research apart from his Dr Moreau Lab.
Dr Moreau's shares sky rocket & his aborted test zombies now run the country.
Trump wants untested immaculate abortion miracle cure crawling from every lab.

Religious Leaders & Anti Abortionists label Trump's evil HEK293T as an abortion.
God's flock are now praying for a Presidential Exorcism to cast out the Demons.

[ Breaking Good News brought to you by Divine Intervention & the number 666 ]
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/anti-abortion-groups-dont-mind-trump-...

Anti Abortionists now claim Trump never inhaled any HEK293T.
Religious Leaders-Anti Abortionists wish to be anointed by Baby Trump's formulae.

* Sunday School choir boy : "Is that how they made the little baby Jesus weep?"

Wotz a fitting present for World Mental Health Day
https://www.swellnet.com/news/swellnet-dispatch/2020/03/13/postponed-lif...

How about....
A record haul of 360,000 cases of Corona / day
https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/geographical-distribution-2019-ncov-cases

Or maybe ... (8.15m cases of Corona in one session)

Can get a continental Euro upgrade to 100,000 cases a day.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-europe-cases-idUSK...

All choices are about as mental as it gets...can't go wrong!

Happy Mental Health Day World...pretty sure things will turn out for the better.
... is wot a mental person would say!

Back in the old days of the Covid pandemic there was talk of housing price collapses and Freeride said something about walking backwards to Sydney if that was the case.

I think he is pretty safe. After the school holiday mayhem on the Mid North Coast Nsw, there must have been a stack of people making enquiries about getting out of Sydney. House rentals are disappearing and properties for sale are going to auction and looks like we’re on our way to a post Covid housing bubble.

Yep, regions to boom.

I was on the MNC for the school hols, never seen it so crazy busy. just fcuking nutz.

and yeah, it's a total scab grab for real estate.

It’s indeed a wild old ride and there’s a few more surprises in store for us all as far as the housing market goes.

But without mass immigration it’s still toast no matter what band aids they throw on when the government largess of free money runs out .

Where abouts on the MNC if you don’t mind , Freeride ?

"ID there are two (or more) parts to an effective vaccine.

1. Is to prevent you from contracting the virus (really hard to do but possible)
2. You get the virus but don't go on to develop the full blown disease.
3. You get the virus go on to develop the disease but don't die.
4. You get the virus / disease and die but the over all numbers are similar to the flu.

That's before you get to the bit about having more than one vaccine (which is a likely out come) to improve your chances of survival.

The vaccines will come....when and how we will find out in 10 years time as to their effectiveness."

That may be true, but just listening to ABC Radio I've heard so much conflicting information from people who are supposably experts.

One person says there will be a vaccine very soon and is super positive.

Next day someone else says a vaccine is unlikely.

One lady the other day even said it's likely the virus will burn itself out?

While others on ABC radio have said that's not going to happen.

Im not talking about callers or presenters, I'm talking about the professionals they have on.

Im just surprised even on ABC radio these professional views are so varied, it just leaves you really not knowing what to believe.

Based just north of Coffs, ranged down to just north of Port.
All points in between.

Yep on the Sydney siders buying up land/houses on the MNC , I have noticed the over priced vacant blocks of land that have been sitting idle for years/decades are just about all gone, and only just recently.. All proudly confirmed by Real Estate agents bragging about it in the local rags.
And those last holidays were as hectic as I've ever seen it.