COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster
Supafreak wrote:Rabbits68 wrote:Supafreak wrote:@indo , so many new studies coming out , the old “ scientists now believe “ and then it all changes again .
If it’s genuine, that’s a good thing isn’t it? New knowledge & all.
Absolutely it’s a good thing if it’s genuine , if you watch the breaking points video I put up , it has some good points about health agencies should be more honest and transparent with the public in order to build trust .
Yep some interesting points in that vid Supa. Makes good sense. For mine, the presenters do the facts some disservice by being too emotional when talking about it, however there not alone there, but that’s by the by. That other link you provided re the booster sounds promising. I haven’t read all your links throughout this thread of epic proportions but good on you for offering them up. Cheers.
@Rabbit68 , hahaha, I find most American commentators are over emotional in their broadcasts , its how they are. Those two used to be the rising hosts on the hill and she was actually a democrat that ran for office but was defeated .
Stok wrote:Fair call Alana.
Let's get this thread back to how it used to be.
This is me taking on Burleigh, Robo and The Real Donald, those were the days:
p.s. - If you can't guess which one I am, just look for the the fully vaxxed one.
The only funny thing you’ve ever posted
Actually vics, Constance and stoks weren’t too bad!
Stok wrote:Fair call Alana.
Let's get this thread back to how it used to be.
This is me taking on Burleigh, Robo and The Real Donald, those were the days:
p.s. - If you can't guess which one I am, just look for the the fully vaxxed one.
I’d say bottom right cause you come across a scared puny little weed hiding in your basement, but then could be one of the other 3 knowing how much you love getting jabbed, but then even with the steroids you’d be too lazy to do the hard work, so yeah the geek on bottom right is my guess.
Sok and toaddill shares have taken a hit lol
Can someone explain the logic behind this?
goofyfoot wrote:
Can someone explain the logic behind this?
On ABC radio yesterday the heath minister was trying to explain exactly this, honestly I didnt come out any wiser.
His logic was that many of that age group aren't vaccinated so at risk, which is obviously crazy seeing their risk is extremely low anyway.
Also logic was if not vaccinated they can spread the virus which again, we know vaccinated or not vaccinated its close to irrelevant you can spread the virus, the vax is only really to help with illness.
The other aspect is its now been shown most mask especially cloth do pretty much nothing if Covid droplets are in the air, you need the very high medical grade ones (not the cheap surgical mask either)
Really i think it's more political, vax rates havent been as high as they want in that aged group so they are penalising the kids in the hope the parents will get them vaxed.
This is where its all gone crazy, its become all about ideologies, instead of the actually science as they always say.
You can see it in this thread where it's like two teams going to war, the people who claim to be out to prevent misinformation or want this thread closed are the ones that keep this thread active by posting ten times a days.
goofyfoot wrote:
Can someone explain the logic behind this?
Simple, he's trying to force parents to get the 5-11 year olds jabbed as only half have, all about control.
goofyfoot wrote:
Can someone explain the logic behind this?
A dictator and his team want to put a poison into a kids arm. So until the parents agree they get punished with a face nappy.
All while DickVocal and Coknballs stay quiet and enable this to happen.
But don’t question it. That would be spreading misinformation.
Thanks for sharing that article TD, makes some great points and comparisons.
indo-dreaming wrote:goofyfoot wrote:
Can someone explain the logic behind this?
On ABC radio yesterday the heath minister was trying to explain exactly this, honestly I didnt come out any wiser.
His logic was that many of that age group aren't vaccinated so at risk, which is obviously crazy seeing their risk is extremely low anyway.
Also logic was if not vaccinated they can spread the virus which again, we know vaccinated or not vaccinated its close to irrelevant you can spread the virus, the vax is only really to help with illness.
The other aspect is its now been shown most mask especially cloth do pretty much nothing if Covid droplets are in the air, you need the very high medical grade ones (not the cheap surgical mask either)
Really i think it's more political, vax rates havent been as high as they want in that aged group so they are penalising the kids in the hope the parents will get them vaxed.
This is where its all gone crazy, its become all about ideologies, instead of the actually science as they always say.
You can see it in this thread where it's like two teams going to war, the people who claim to be out to prevent misinformation or want this thread closed are the ones that keep this thread active by posting ten times a days.
How is it about ideology Indo?
Dictator Dan has no commitment to an ideology. If it’s a viable public service he will sell it to private profiteers. If there is money for a few vested interests in flooding the state with immigrants to the detriment of the environment, water security and standards of living then he will do so despite the majority of the population rejected the population increase. He underfunded the health system and allocated quarantine responsibilities based on “favours” instead of reliability and capability.
Dictator Dan is not motivated by ideology. He is motivated by power and money.
Now ask yourself how this may align with his brutal crushing of any oppression towards vaccination for all. Why does Dictator Dan care if everyone is vaccinated even little kids who are almost invulnerable to the virus?
Answer that and you’ll get closer to understanding the obvious hypocrisies and illogical anti-science political manoeuvring.
https://www.triplepundit.com/story/2012/pfizer-pays-602m-after-admitting...
https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/pfizer-faces-doj-sec-foreign-bribery...
Not sure if posted/discussed here yet. Interesting omissions from the CDC. Pulled from a NYT piece.
Hi burliegh, blowin, and robo. It looks like you guys need cheering up so this one is for you.
Interesting take on it Craig. Some say the market will decide the fate of vaccines, not what the governments say.
If all-cause mortality goes up despite low Covid deaths in the setting of high vaccination rates then life/health insurance companies will look for answers. If so eventually big-insurance will take on big pharma.
Re the China component of the article there’s parallels for every “zero-Covid” approach, might even apply to Western Aust
Heads up VIC Local.
The conversation has moved past you bloke.
The harder you try to apply cancel culture the more obvious it shows that you do so because you have no rational or logical replies to any of the information.
tylerdurden wrote:Interesting take on it Craig. Some say the market will decide the fate of vaccines, not what the governments say.
If all-cause mortality goes up despite low Covid deaths in the setting of high vaccination rates then life/health insurance companies will look for answers. If so eventually big-insurance will take on big pharma.
Re the China component of the article there’s parallels for every “zero-Covid” approach, might even apply to Western Aust
It’s become so that the politicians pushing for the draconian emergency measures are so obviously predicating their decisions on politics instead of science , that it’s bringing to a head the realisation within society that maybe it’s always been about politics, power and money.
Ben Harding wrote:Not sure if posted/discussed here yet. Interesting omissions from the CDC. Pulled from a NYT piece.
posted a link yesterday, was consumed by the cookers with animal photos trying to take over, crickets from the angry ant
udo wrote:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-24/covid-patent-free-vaccine-corbeva...
Using yeast to make the protein also meant the vaccine was "a bit vegan", Dr Bottazzi said, and a halal version of the vaccine is being trialled in Indonesia.
The halal bit is pretty interesting, do Muslim nations not take the vaccines due to halal issues? I never heard that before.
Roadkill wrote:udo wrote:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-24/covid-patent-free-vaccine-corbeva...
Using yeast to make the protein also meant the vaccine was "a bit vegan", Dr Bottazzi said, and a halal version of the vaccine is being trialled in Indonesia.
The halal bit is pretty interesting, do Muslim nations not take the vaccines due to halal issues? I never heard that before.
so you didn't know you've been injected with cells from aborted babys?
Blowin wrote:Heads up VIC Local.
The conversation has moved past you bloke.
The harder you try to apply cancel culture the more obvious it shows that you do so because you have no rational or logical replies to any of the information.
Yes blowin, let's all have a rational debate about dictators, poison, and being "injected with cells from aborted babys (sic)
Nope, back to posting animal images. Here's a video for you champ.
Vic Local wrote:Blowin wrote:Heads up VIC Local.
The conversation has moved past you bloke.
The harder you try to apply cancel culture the more obvious it shows that you do so because you have no rational or logical replies to any of the information.
Yes blowin, let's all have a rational debate about dictators, poison, and being "injected with cells from aborted babys (sic)
Nope, back to posting animal images. Here's a video for you champ.
you either have no life or need some help, probably both
Robo ...Fetal Cell lines .
toad when he rolls up his sleeve, hit me, your Ian and Vl,sok,udo are the blockheads lol
udo wrote:Robo ...Fetal Cell lines .
I have to google for you again cludo, are you 10
https://www.science.org/content/article/abortion-opponents-protest-covid...
in the last month I know personally 3 families in my area that have had their leases ended. 4 weeks notice. and there is nothing available. none have the luxury of working from home. i guess they could move out to the sticks somewhere and commute because fuel is affordable these days isnt it.
i thought this was all about protecting the vulnerable? what the fuck is going on?
https://theconversation.com/covid-19-how-rising-inequalities-unfolded-an...
"The wealthy were not only able to keep their well-paid jobs but also benefited from soaring stock markets and rising house prices. "Low-paid workers were, in contrast, more likely to have jobs in the sectors that suspended activities, including hospitality and tourism. A higher share of poor workers are in precarious hourly paid employment, making them less able to access....... emergency benefits that could cushion the decline in income and the effect of COVID-19 on their lives."
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-17/oxfam-report-covid-pandemic-billi...
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/pandemic-has-increased-inequalit...
https://newsroom.unsw.edu.au/news/social-affairs/who-has-been-hit-hardes...
bonza wrote:in the last month I know personally 3 families in my area that have had their leases ended. 4 weeks notice. and there is nothing available. none have the luxury of working from home. i guess they could move out to the sticks somewhere and commute because fuel is affordable these days isnt it.
i thought this was all about protecting the vulnerable? what the fuck is going on?
https://theconversation.com/covid-19-how-rising-inequalities-unfolded-an...
"The wealthy were not only able to keep their well-paid jobs but also benefited from soaring stock markets and rising house prices. "Low-paid workers were, in contrast, more likely to have jobs in the sectors that suspended activities, including hospitality and tourism. A higher share of poor workers are in precarious hourly paid employment, making them less able to access....... emergency benefits that could cushion the decline in income and the effect of COVID-19 on their lives."
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-17/oxfam-report-covid-pandemic-billi...
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/pandemic-has-increased-inequalit...
https://newsroom.unsw.edu.au/news/social-affairs/who-has-been-hit-hardes...
Also don't forget the politicians making the rules don't have to be jabbed to keep their jobs, been crickets on this thread about that all along.
Has to be embarrassing being a cooked supporter contributing to all that, I have nothing against those that were forced to be jabbed to keep their jobs/house etc
It's the pro cookers loving the poison, mandates, masks,lockdowns, sheep scared of a cold.
Is that really the case Robo re politicians vaccine mandates? Does any one have a simple link that outlines each state and federal policy on politician's covid vaccine mandates?
Robo, you started posting to this thread at 2.23am then at 6.32am and again at 8.05....from then on nearly every post is from you.
You need to get out
bonza wrote:Is that really the case Robo re politicians vaccine mandates? Does any one have a simple link that outlines each state and federal policy on politician's covid vaccine mandates?
QLD: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/qld-mps-e...
Roadkill wrote:Robo, you started posting to this thread at 2.23am then at 6.32am and again at 8.05....from then on nearly every post is from you.
You need to get out
I don't sleep and it's pouring rain toad your type of weather
Robo wrote:Roadkill wrote:Robo, you started posting to this thread at 2.23am then at 6.32am and again at 8.05....from then on nearly every post is from you.
You need to get out
I don't sleep and it's pouring rain toad your type of weather
The same thing every day. Maybe you should just get a job
Roadkill wrote:Robo wrote:Roadkill wrote:Robo, you started posting to this thread at 2.23am then at 6.32am and again at 8.05....from then on nearly every post is from you.
You need to get out
I don't sleep and it's pouring rain toad your type of weather
The same thing every day. Maybe you should just get a job
I have a office at home toadster, been self employed for over 30 years, last "job" was around 1990.
thanks for caring though.
Robo wrote:Roadkill wrote:Robo wrote:Roadkill wrote:Robo, you started posting to this thread at 2.23am then at 6.32am and again at 8.05....from then on nearly every post is from you.
You need to get out
I don't sleep and it's pouring rain toad your type of weather
The same thing every day. Maybe you should just get a job
I have a office at home toadster, been self employed for over 30 years, last "job" was around 1990
off course you do..lol
Roadkill wrote:Robo wrote:Roadkill wrote:Robo wrote:Roadkill wrote:Robo, you started posting to this thread at 2.23am then at 6.32am and again at 8.05....from then on nearly every post is from you.
You need to get out
I don't sleep and it's pouring rain toad your type of weather
The same thing every day. Maybe you should just get a job
I have a office at home toadster, been self employed for over 30 years, last "job" was around 1990
off course you do..lol
if only you knew, I guess you spend all day making somene else rich eh, bend over Beethoven, no wonder you love the jabs
Roadkill wrote:Robo, you started posting to this thread at 2.23am then at 6.32am and again at 8.05....from then on nearly every post is from you.
You need to get out
Exactly, And I'm tipping this isn't the only forum robo is posting on all through the night.
robo, seriously mate, you're becoming more and more unhinged and this isn't healthy.
Stu, Craig and Ben. You are providing a platform for people who aren't mentally well. Do you really want to do that?
The USA is having a big truck convoy starting today and the craziness is going to grow over the next few weeks. This event isn't ending well and do you really want to have all that shit filling up your forum in the future.
You've got crew issuing threats of violence on a regular basis on your site.
Big question: Is there a line in the sand where you say enough is enough? Actual violence? a complete mental breakdown of one of the cookers? Highly defamatory accusations about paedophilia (a common thread amongst the anti-everything mob)? Because that's where this forum is headed.
And one more thing to consider. If it was Mohammed, Fatimah, and Usman (instead of Burleigh, robo and blowin) issuing threats and talking about govt "dictators" who need removing, would this forum still be up?
Think wisely guys.
gsco wrote:bonza wrote:Is that really the case Robo re politicians vaccine mandates? Does any one have a simple link that outlines each state and federal policy on politician's covid vaccine mandates?
QLD: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/qld-mps-e...
thanks gsco
hahahah VL ditching out unhinged and mental comments after his last 2 days posts FFS.
Trudeau backflip and a win for liberal democracies?: Trudeau revokes emergency powers
Trudeau wrote:“The situation is no longer an emergency, therefore the federal government will be ending the use of the emergencies act,” Trudeau said. “We are confident that existing laws and bylaws are sufficient.”
Good call VIC Local.
Call to see the manager bloke. You don’t like it!
Vic Local wrote:Roadkill wrote:Robo, you started posting to this thread at 2.23am then at 6.32am and again at 8.05....from then on nearly every post is from you.
You need to get out
Exactly, And I'm tipping this isn't the only forum robo is posting on all through the night.
robo, seriously mate, you're becoming more and more unhinged and this isn't healthy.Stu, Craig and Ben. You are providing a platform for people who aren't mentally well. Do you really want to do that?
The USA is having a big truck convoy starting today and the craziness is going to grow over the next few weeks. This event isn't ending well and do you really want to have all that shit filling up your forum in the future.
You've got crew issuing threats of violence on a regular basis on your site.
Big question: Is there a line in the sand where you say enough is enough? Actual violence? a complete mental breakdown of one of the cookers? Highly defamatory accusations about paedophilia (a common thread amongst the anti-everything mob)? Because that's where this forum is headed.
And one more thing to consider. If it was Mohammed, Fatimah, and Usman (instead of Burleigh, robo and blowin) issuing threats and talking about govt "dictators" who need removing, would this forum still be up?
Think wisely guys.
You live in a glass house DickVocal?
You’ve constantly been the most deranged human on this forum, you’re time outs would prove this.
Your attempts to close this thread are now laughable.
You know you’ve been conned, you don’t want to keep on defending the bullshit, you would rather have this thread closed than admit you’ve fucked up.
Usman is my middle name.
Congrats on every single person that held the line and didn’t get whacked.
We know we were right all along, if it smells like a rat, it’s a fucking rat.
I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..
There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia