COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster
I just had a quick search and it's gonna take a long while to get to the bottom of your question.
Whereas misinformation is easy to disprove. Get it?
Craig wrote:
Blowin, but if that's the question you're asking why not look into it a bit deeper, then come back with evidence of so called questions. Not just through it into the numpties here to latch onto?
Whats a numpty?.........
Blowin wrote:Here’s the open question that the bed wetters have studiously avoided despite repeat asking:
Please state your opinion on the ABSOLUTE risk reduction from severe covid for a healthy 25 year old pre and post vaccination.
Ie
Percentage risk of severe illness from covid before vaccination = ?%
Percentage risk of severe illness from covid post vaccination = ?%
This is for Stok, Roadkill and anyone else who is hiding under their bed wearing nappies and three masks.
I'm happy to answer but need more time to do the research, busy with something now. I refuse to answer such questions without referencing the source (and the source cannot be youtube, facebook, twitter and similar crap). Basically, anyone can find content that supports their biases on youtube. I will only accept a proper peer-reviewed study. If I'm unable to find such a study I will clearly admit it and leave the question unanswered. This clearly means that question is unanswered due to my inability to find a study or that study was never being carried out. It will not mean that one is better than the other. I will come back to it when I find a bit more time and share my findings.
Also Ape A has covered my thoughts on the 25y/o well, but you said absolute so it takes a bloody lot of research and gathering of info to get to the bottom of that.
Blowin, with that innocent little question in the form of a leading statement, you've proved you're either:
1. Skilled in discrediting science, and spreading doubt.
or
2. Incredibly naive to the potential damage such statements can create.
Pretty sure it's 2. in which case all good, you're only human.
Blowin wrote:This is for Stok, Roadkill and anyone else who is hiding under their bed wearing nappies and three masks.
Here's my response, after looking in detail at the studies I could find online and through social media:
Percentage risk of severe illness from covid before vaccination = 100%
Percentage risk of severe illness from covid post vaccination = 0%
Apparently, after you get your booster your ability to weigh up risks is skewed, so maybe someone who's unvaxxed can cross check the above for me.
simba wrote:Craig wrote:
Blowin, but if that's the question you're asking why not look into it a bit deeper, then come back with evidence of so called questions. Not just through it into the numpties here to latch onto?Whats a numpty?.........
those that think the vaccine works
"Also for those jumping on the soccer players dying etc, that was fully blown out of proportion and false as well if you didn't know. Here's what really happened".
Cherrypicks one example.
Here's some more and only up to November.
https://granitegrok.com/blog/2021/11/are-an-alarming-number-of-athletes-...
Craig wrote:I just had a quick search and it's gonna take a long while to get to the bottom of your question.
Whereas misinformation is easy to disprove. Get it?
Some people here struggle a bit with the bullshit asymmetry principal.
Craig wrote:I just had a quick search and it's gonna take a long while to get to the bottom of your question.
Whereas misinformation is easy to disprove. Get it?
The misinformation- currently ruining the lives of hundreds of thousands of healthy, innocent Australians- is that vaccines should be coerced / mandated in a blind, nationwide rollout.
If you could easily disprove that it’d be very, very handy.
Actually, disproving it isn’t the hard part, it’s overcoming the political corruption behind it and it’s support amongst the stupid / bitter dumb cunt Australians, which is the hard part.
If you could ponder this and do your part by communicating the problem with the hateful mandated vaccine policy it would be an incredible individual contribution to Australia’s civil society.
There’s young healthy people who are needlessly being subjected to terrible distress with real world harms - mental, physical, social and financial- who badly need the help of anyone who can assist them to fight this unjust politically motivated persecution. You seem to have a wide social circle….let your friends and peers no that you don’t accept this political tyranny of innocent Australians.
Craig wrote:Also Ape A has covered my thoughts on the 25y/o well, but you said absolute so it takes a bloody lot of research and gathering of info to get to the bottom of that.
Huh?
It must be a widely shared and cited gathering of facts upon which to base such an inhumane political policy surely?
The answer to that is ….not!
@blowin Also, before I start my research can we agree on a definition of a healthy person? Would you say that 'obese' people are unhealthy? Or do we include 'overweight' people into unhealthy as well?
Based on this source - https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/australias-health/overweight-and-obesity obesity and overweight are defined as:
'BMI is calculated by dividing a person’s weight in kilograms by the square of their height in metres. A BMI of 25.0–29.9 is classified as overweight but not obese, while a BMI of 30.0 or over is classified as obese. A BMI of greater than 35.0 is classified as severely obese.'
The same source says that 65% of men in 25-34 age group and 49.2% of women in 25-34 age group are overweight or obese.
Are these people considered unhealthy or healthy?
I'm not for mandates when the vaccines are having less of an impact regarding transmission with Omicron.
It seems like all the data coming out now will prevent that from happening in any case. I think Dan Andrew's is overstepping the mark saying third should be mandated. We'll see what happens.
Not sure why your attacking I've never stated my stance on mandates. I'm just pulling you up on unsubstantiated, unhelpful thought bubbles.
Stok wrote:Blowin wrote:This is for Stok, Roadkill and anyone else who is hiding under their bed wearing nappies and three masks.
Here's my response, after looking in detail at the studies I could find online and through social media:
Percentage risk of severe illness from covid before vaccination = 100%
Percentage risk of severe illness from covid post vaccination = 0%
Apparently, after you get your booster your ability to weigh up risks is skewed, so maybe someone who's unvaxxed can cross check the above for me.
Your opinion is that an unvaccinated, but otherwise healthy, unvaccinated 25 year old Australian is faced with a 100% risk of a serious outcome if they catch covid and a 0% risk,of serious illness if they catch covid whilst vaccinated?
Really?
You’re saying that you think there’s no chance at all for a healthy 25 year old to avoid serious illness if they catch covid?
Mate - I’m going to call you mate because “bloke” is reserved for dickheads, whilst you seem primarily stupid - you obviously have NO grasp of anything that’s being discussed by anyone on this thread and maybe even any other thread.
It’s a bit disappointing to only at this late stage , firmly establish your severe inadequacy to comment with any authority on anything more onerous than the latest Wiggles album.
Blowin wrote:Craig wrote:I just had a quick search and it's gonna take a long while to get to the bottom of your question.
Whereas misinformation is easy to disprove. Get it?
The misinformation- currently ruining the lives of hundreds of thousands of healthy, innocent Australians- is that vaccines should be coerced / mandated in a blind, nationwide rollout.
If you could easily disprove that it’d be very, very handy.
Actually, disproving it isn’t the hard part, it’s overcoming the political corruption behind it and it’s support amongst the stupid / bitter dumb cunt Australians, which is the hard part.
If you could ponder this and do your part by communicating the problem with the hateful mandated vaccine policy it would be an incredible individual contribution to Australia’s civil society.
There’s young healthy people who are needlessly being subjected to terrible distress with real world harms - mental, physical, social and financial- who badly need the help of anyone who can assist them to fight this unjust politically motivated persecution. You seem to have a wide social circle….let your friends and peers no that you don’t accept this political tyranny of innocent Australians.
" ruining the lives of hundreds of thousands of healthy, innocent Australians' nope. not HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS and not RUINING. Drama Queening it, snowflake.
flollo wrote:@blowin Also, before I start my research can we agree on a definition of a healthy person? Would you say that 'obese' people are unhealthy? Or do we include 'overweight' people into unhealthy as well?
Based on this source - https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/australias-health/overweight-and-obesity obesity and overweight are defined as:
'BMI is calculated by dividing a person’s weight in kilograms by the square of their height in metres. A BMI of 25.0–29.9 is classified as overweight but not obese, while a BMI of 30.0 or over is classified as obese. A BMI of greater than 35.0 is classified as severely obese.'
The same source says that 65% of men in 25-34 age group and 49.2% of women in 25-34 age group are overweight or obese.
Are these people considered unhealthy or healthy?
I definitely would not consider an obese person to be healthy. But surely if obesity is the only exclusionary factor to health then the government could assist the person in losing weight so that their overall risk to public health is lowered across the board* instead of demanding they take an injection which carries risk of harm itself?
Do both if you like.
Healthy, overweight and obese.
* Obesity would be responsible for more pressure on the health system and more individual poor health outcomes in a single year than the 50 years of covid sickness.
The thing is this antivax mob are cowards at heart. All the bluff and bluster just to cover up the fact they are scared. Don't cry. It's only couple of little pricks. Much like yourselves.
wallpaper wrote:The thing is this antivax mob are cowards at heart. All the bluff and bluster just to cover up the fact they are scared. Don't cry. It's only couple of little pricks. Much like yourselves.
Good little government puppet. If you keep it up daddy Dan will give you an ice cream.
Government getting dumb shits like you to do their dirty work only makes this whole thing ever more crazy
Blowin wrote:There’s young healthy people who are needlessly being subjected to terrible distress with real world harms - mental, physical, social and financial- who badly need the help of anyone who can assist them to fight this unjust politically motivated persecution.
Jeeeesus fucking christ.
Are we talking about the same thing in this thread?
Ape Anonymous wrote:This thread is still pumping!
pumping like a 2 foot swell with a 40 knot onshore blowin(g), an ocean full of stingers and a shorey thick with seaweed
*slowly reverses out of the carpark*
actually, fuck the slowly, kick it in the guts bazza!
Craig wrote:Not sure why your attacking I've never stated my stance on mandates. I'm just pulling you up on unsubstantiated, unhelpful thought bubbles.
Because I’m sick of your sniping about “dangerous and unhelpful “ thought bubbles whilst blithely ignoring the fact that your cheerleading for unthinking and draconian vaccination policies which have a more ruinous real world impact than does covid for hundreds of thousands of Australians.
And by blindly promoting vaccines of which you haven’t given any thought to absolute efficacy , you are supporting the ugly and hateful political persecution of innocent Australians.
Everyone needs to loudly and unapologetically shout down the authoritarian pests who think nothing of denying Australians entitlement to autonomy over their own bodies. It would be different if covid was the existential threat to society that it was made out to be but it is not. There is no justification for this governmental overreach of authority and this overreach is the bigger threat out of the two issues.
I’m asking you to put as much thought into the politicisation of covid as you do into policing thought and speech.
Obviously you don’t have to do a damn thing I ask but asking is all I can do of anyone. I believe in a fair , just and healthy Australia and Covid vaccine mandates / coercion have no place whatsoever in that Australia. Mandates are not fair and just and they do absolutely nothing to further the aim of a healthy nation.
Craig wrote:I'm not for mandates when the vaccines are having less of an impact regarding transmission with Omicron.
It seems like all the data coming out now will prevent that from happening in any case. I think Dan Andrew's is overstepping the mark saying third should be mandated. We'll see what happens.
You're seemingly too centre sitting, and rational of a thinker for this thread Craig - but anyway, intrigued to know what you think Dan Andrews would gain out of overstepping the mark? Why do you think he's doing it?
I too agree that at some point if transmission is not an issue, hospitalisation is not an issue, then yes we should walk away from boosters, but I'm not claiming to have any position as to when that should be.
Stok wrote:Blowin wrote:There’s young healthy people who are needlessly being subjected to terrible distress with real world harms - mental, physical, social and financial- who badly need the help of anyone who can assist them to fight this unjust politically motivated persecution.
Jeeeesus fucking christ.
Are we talking about the same thing in this thread?
Yep. You just don’t see the real world harms visited upon those on the wrong side of government authoritarianism because you assume you’ll always be on the right side.
You might be OK if they’re only coming for the unvaccinated but if they come for the dumb-as-dogshit…..then you’re fucked.
Stok wrote:Craig wrote:I'm not for mandates when the vaccines are having less of an impact regarding transmission with Omicron.
It seems like all the data coming out now will prevent that from happening in any case. I think Dan Andrew's is overstepping the mark saying third should be mandated. We'll see what happens.
You're seemingly too centre sitting, and rational of a thinker for this thread Craig - but anyway, intrigued to know what you think Dan Andrews would gain out of overstepping the mark? Why do you think he's doing it?
I too agree that at some point if transmission is not an issue, hospitalisation is not an issue, then yes we should walk away from boosters, but I'm not claiming to have any position as to when that should be.
If there's evidence showing that being infected gives appropriate immunity (hence not needing a booster as well) and if we keep seeing the variants waning etc then I don't see the need for mandates.
Boosters look to help for waning immunity from both vaccines and being infected 6 months + down the line but if above, can be left for the individual to make the call if the stress on the hospitals etc remains low.
It's not something I've spent much time worrying about to be honest, the third.
Blowin wrote:Yep. You just don’t see the real world harms visited upon those on the wrong side of government authoritarianism because you assume you’ll always be on the right side.
You might be OK if they’re only coming for the unvaccinated but if they come for the dumb-as-dogshit…..then you’re fucked.
Blokemate, as you may have read before, I lived through the Melbourne lockdowns, apparently under the most harshest dictatorship and most blatant grab for tyrannical power in all of history - and am still here. It wasn't that bad.
As far as I know, we can still vote in the next election. We still have separate courts. Freedom of speech. Freedom of media. Need I go on?
No one said any of this was easy, or enjoyable. Big and small sacrifices have been made.
Some people are better at playing victim I guess?
Craig wrote:Stok wrote:Craig wrote:I'm not for mandates when the vaccines are having less of an impact regarding transmission with Omicron.
It seems like all the data coming out now will prevent that from happening in any case. I think Dan Andrew's is overstepping the mark saying third should be mandated. We'll see what happens.
You're seemingly too centre sitting, and rational of a thinker for this thread Craig - but anyway, intrigued to know what you think Dan Andrews would gain out of overstepping the mark? Why do you think he's doing it?
I too agree that at some point if transmission is not an issue, hospitalisation is not an issue, then yes we should walk away from boosters, but I'm not claiming to have any position as to when that should be.
If there's evidence showing that being infected gives appropriate immunity (hence not needing a booster as well) and if we keep seeing the variants waning etc then I don't see the need for mandates.
Boosters look to help for waning immunity from both vaccines and being infected 6 months + down the line but if above, can be left for the individual to make the call if the stress on the hospitals etc remains low.
It's not something I've spent much time worrying about to be honest, the third.
You’re still talking as though vaccines do anything significant for healthy people. Until you figure this out your opinions are worthless.
I don’t say that to be mean and I don’t take any pleasure in saying it. Until you establish in your mind the rationale for forced vaccinating of healthy young people the first time, then your thoughts about the necessity of mandated boosters for the same demographic is a waste of time.
Craig wrote:It's not something I've spent much time worrying about to be honest, the third.
Fair enough, and rightly so. It doesn't deserve much thought really.
Funny how such a small thing evokes such emotion in some.
"Until you establish in your mind the rationale for forced vaccinating of healthy young people the first time, then your thoughts about the necessity of mandated boosters for the same demographic is a waste of time."
If that's the standard you have for vaccines blowin, you're even dumber than I thought. Vaccines aren't for sick people you dopey fuckwit. they are to stop people getting sick or minimise their symptoms. 2 fucking years you've been banging on about vaccines, and you still don't understand this very simple concept. 5 year old can understand this shit mate.
And since you don't want to give vaccines to healthy people, I guess you don't agree with the cervical cancer vax, measles vax, small pox vax, polio vax. etc etc etc
Yes blowin, you are a moron.
Stok wrote:Blowin wrote:Yep. You just don’t see the real world harms visited upon those on the wrong side of government authoritarianism because you assume you’ll always be on the right side.
You might be OK if they’re only coming for the unvaccinated but if they come for the dumb-as-dogshit…..then you’re fucked.
Blokemate, as you may have read before, I lived through the Melbourne lockdowns, apparently under the most harshest dictatorship and most blatant grab for tyrannical power in all of history - and am still here. It wasn't that bad.
As far as I know, we can still vote in the next election. We still have separate courts. Freedom of speech. Freedom of media. Need I go on?
No one said any of this was easy, or enjoyable. Big and small sacrifices have been made.
Some people are better at playing victim I guess?
Some people are better at subservience.
Look ….I think you’re a fucken idiot bloke. You are lead by the nose by anyone standing behind a podium. You have shown, beyond doubt, that you’re not smart enough to think for yourself. Now you flaunt your supine stupidity and encourage everyone to bend over and touch their toes beside you, so that your fundamental orifice is more readily available to those who treat your essential human freedoms with contempt?
You don’t even question it when they tell you that your being given the shaft is for your own benefit.
You are an embarrassment bloke.
Blowin wrote:Craig wrote:Not sure why your attacking I've never stated my stance on mandates. I'm just pulling you up on unsubstantiated, unhelpful thought bubbles.
Because I’m sick of your sniping about “dangerous and unhelpful “ thought bubbles whilst blithely ignoring the fact that your cheerleading for unthinking and draconian vaccination policies which have a more ruinous real world impact than does covid for hundreds of thousands of Australians.
And by blindly promoting vaccines of which you haven’t given any thought to absolute efficacy , you are supporting the ugly and hateful political persecution of innocent Australians.
Everyone needs to loudly and unapologetically shout down the authoritarian pests who think nothing of denying Australians entitlement to autonomy over their own bodies. It would be different if covid was the existential threat to society that it was made out to be but it is not. There is no justification for this governmental overreach of authority and this overreach is the bigger threat out of the two issues.
I’m asking you to put as much thought into the politicisation of covid as you do into policing thought and speech.
Obviously you don’t have to do a damn thing I ask but asking is all I can do of anyone. I believe in a fair , just and healthy Australia and Covid vaccine mandates / coercion have no place whatsoever in that Australia. Mandates are not fair and just and they do absolutely nothing to further the aim of a healthy nation.
blowin is like a little pussy when talking to / with Craig and Stu. The language is different, the insults are nothing. Everyone else is a C**t, Bloke, sicko and evey other insult...but the brown nosing he does to Craig and Stu is freaking hilarious. Like a timid little teachers pet. ha ha
Stok wrote:Craig wrote:It's not something I've spent much time worrying about to be honest, the third.
Fair enough, and rightly so. It doesn't deserve much thought really.
Funny how such a small thing evokes such emotion in some.
“Such a small thing”
If you’re in WA and choose not to risk the potential harm of a vaccine which shows no statistically significant improvement in preventing serious illness from covid and which does nothing to prevent transmission of the virus - as is your human right - then you cannot buy a bottle of beer. You can be denied employment. You can lose your existing job. You will be denied entry in cafes, pubs, cinemas and most retail shops. You are subjected to people who feel entitled and encouraged to insult and disparage you by hate spreading political leaders. You are ostracised by some members of society who feel emboldened to spread their hate. You can become depressed. You can fight and argue with loved ones who don’t understand your personal resistance to the jab and who want to,participate in a society from which you are now excluded.
It’s fucking aweful. It’s no small thing and to say you think otherwise just says that you’re an unfeeling piece of shit.
You are saying that you don’t understand the problem when black people weren’t allowed in the cinema with white people. You are saying you can’t see an issue with Jews not being allowed certain jobs or women not being allowed in the front bar.
They’re all just small issues and not worthy of your worry or attention. You wonder why the blacks didn’t just forget about the movies . why Jews don’t just get another job and women just be happy sitting out the beer garden where they belong. You know why? Because you’re an empathy free sociopath. Because it’s not happening to you so you don’t give a fuck.
Roadkill wrote:Blowin wrote:Craig wrote:Not sure why your attacking I've never stated my stance on mandates. I'm just pulling you up on unsubstantiated, unhelpful thought bubbles.
Because I’m sick of your sniping about “dangerous and unhelpful “ thought bubbles whilst blithely ignoring the fact that your cheerleading for unthinking and draconian vaccination policies which have a more ruinous real world impact than does covid for hundreds of thousands of Australians.
And by blindly promoting vaccines of which you haven’t given any thought to absolute efficacy , you are supporting the ugly and hateful political persecution of innocent Australians.
Everyone needs to loudly and unapologetically shout down the authoritarian pests who think nothing of denying Australians entitlement to autonomy over their own bodies. It would be different if covid was the existential threat to society that it was made out to be but it is not. There is no justification for this governmental overreach of authority and this overreach is the bigger threat out of the two issues.
I’m asking you to put as much thought into the politicisation of covid as you do into policing thought and speech.
Obviously you don’t have to do a damn thing I ask but asking is all I can do of anyone. I believe in a fair , just and healthy Australia and Covid vaccine mandates / coercion have no place whatsoever in that Australia. Mandates are not fair and just and they do absolutely nothing to further the aim of a healthy nation.
blowin is like a little pussy when talking to / with Craig and Stu. The language is different, the insults are nothing. Everyone else is a C**t, Bloke, sicko and evey other insult...but the brown nosing he does to Craig and Stu is freaking hilarious. Like a timid little teachers pet. ha ha
Of course I talk to Craig and Stu differently. I talk to them with the modicum of respect deserving of someone who shows respect back.
You’re a flog bloke. You’re not just stupid, you’re mean and selfish. The same bloke who shit himself about others giving him covid for two years , went and drove his suspected infected son around countless other people because they had to secure his shift pushing trolleys at Coles.
You’re another disgrace..
I'm scared of viruses.
I'm scared of covid.
I'm scared of mad scientist in labs experimenting with bats.
I'm scared of experimental drugs and possible side effects.
I'm not scared of previous vaccines that have worked.
I'm petrified of morons whom mandate and demand control of my immune system with a medicine with questionable efficacy!
You're scared also if you went and got 3x jabbed.
More scared than me.I'm backing myself in this fight,you're not.
Blowin]
Roadkill wrote:Blowin wrote:wrote:[quote=CraigOf course I talk to Craig and Stu differently. I talk to them with the modicum of respect deserving of someone who shows respect back.
You’re a flog bloke. You’re not just stupid, you’re mean and selfish. The same bloke who shit himself about others giving him covid for two years , went and drove his suspected infected son around countless other people because they had to secure his shift pushing trolleys at Coles.
You’re another disgrace..
You never used to speak like this.
Remember giving me a hard time because I was swearing to much on this site?
You ever wondered after being bullied on this form by a couple of people why you now behave the similar?
look it up.
Blowin wrote:“Such a small thing”
If you’re in WA and choose not to risk the potential harm of a vaccine which shows no statistically significant improvement in preventing serious illness from covid and which does nothing to prevent transmission of the virus - as is your human right - then you cannot buy a bottle of beer. You can be denied employment. You can lose your existing job. You will be denied entry in cafes, pubs, cinemas and most retail shops. You are subjected to people who feel entitled and encouraged to insult and disparage you by hate spreading political leaders. You are ostracised by some members of society who feel emboldened to spread their hate. You can become depressed. You can fight and argue with loved ones who don’t understand your personal resistance to the jab and who want to,participate in a society from which you are now excluded.
It’s fucking aweful. It’s no small thing and to say you think otherwise just says that you’re an unfeeling piece of shit.
You are saying that you don’t understand the problem when black people weren’t allowed in the cinema with white people. You are saying you can’t see an issue with Jews not being allowed certain jobs or women not being allowed in the front bar.
They’re all just small issues and not worthy of your worry or attention. You wonder why the blacks didn’t just forget about the movies . why Jews don’t just get another job and women just be happy sitting out the beer garden where they belong. You know why? Because you’re an empathy free sociopath. Because it’s not happening to you so you don’t give a fuck.
Actions have consequences Blokemate.
You're on fire today, quite the show. Keep it up. That some good totally inappropriate comparisons there too. Bit out of touch there, might be best to get your head out of the rabbit hole.
p.s. can't buy a bottle of beer really in WA?
State Premier Mark McGown has announced that proof of vaccination will be required before anyone can enter a wide range of venues, including:
-- hospitals and aged care homes
-- restaurants, bars, cafes, pubs
-- theatres, cinemas and gaming venues, including Crown Perth
-- amusement parks, museums and zoos
-- bottleshops
-- gyms and fitness centres
-- music festivals and large-scale events
https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/teachers-childcare-workers-to-be-ex...
Stok wrote:Blowin wrote:“Such a small thing”
If you’re in WA and choose not to risk the potential harm of a vaccine which shows no statistically significant improvement in preventing serious illness from covid and which does nothing to prevent transmission of the virus - as is your human right - then you cannot buy a bottle of beer. You can be denied employment. You can lose your existing job. You will be denied entry in cafes, pubs, cinemas and most retail shops. You are subjected to people who feel entitled and encouraged to insult and disparage you by hate spreading political leaders. You are ostracised by some members of society who feel emboldened to spread their hate. You can become depressed. You can fight and argue with loved ones who don’t understand your personal resistance to the jab and who want to,participate in a society from which you are now excluded.
It’s fucking aweful. It’s no small thing and to say you think otherwise just says that you’re an unfeeling piece of shit.
You are saying that you don’t understand the problem when black people weren’t allowed in the cinema with white people. You are saying you can’t see an issue with Jews not being allowed certain jobs or women not being allowed in the front bar.
They’re all just small issues and not worthy of your worry or attention. You wonder why the blacks didn’t just forget about the movies . why Jews don’t just get another job and women just be happy sitting out the beer garden where they belong. You know why? Because you’re an empathy free sociopath. Because it’s not happening to you so you don’t give a fuck.
Actions have consequences Blokemate.
You're on fire today, quite the show. Keep it up. That some good totally inappropriate comparisons there too. Bit out of touch there, might be best to get your head out of the rabbit hole.
p.s. can't buy a bottle of beer really in WA?
Yep, unless you can show your vaccination pass no sales at a bottle shop. You can get groceries or go to bunnings but no alcohol. A coercive tactic……
The more you learn hey?
Sounds like it's a hybrid solution - wasn't it Burleigh that was saying we should be looking after people's health, based on what they eat/drink?
Stok wrote:Blowin wrote:“Such a small thing”
If you’re in WA and choose not to risk the potential harm of a vaccine which shows no statistically significant improvement in preventing serious illness from covid and which does nothing to prevent transmission of the virus - as is your human right - then you cannot buy a bottle of beer. You can be denied employment. You can lose your existing job. You will be denied entry in cafes, pubs, cinemas and most retail shops. You are subjected to people who feel entitled and encouraged to insult and disparage you by hate spreading political leaders. You are ostracised by some members of society who feel emboldened to spread their hate. You can become depressed. You can fight and argue with loved ones who don’t understand your personal resistance to the jab and who want to,participate in a society from which you are now excluded.
It’s fucking aweful. It’s no small thing and to say you think otherwise just says that you’re an unfeeling piece of shit.
You are saying that you don’t understand the problem when black people weren’t allowed in the cinema with white people. You are saying you can’t see an issue with Jews not being allowed certain jobs or women not being allowed in the front bar.
They’re all just small issues and not worthy of your worry or attention. You wonder why the blacks didn’t just forget about the movies . why Jews don’t just get another job and women just be happy sitting out the beer garden where they belong. You know why? Because you’re an empathy free sociopath. Because it’s not happening to you so you don’t give a fuck.
Actions have consequences Blokemate.
You're on fire today, quite the show. Keep it up. That some good totally inappropriate comparisons there too. Bit out of touch there, might be best to get your head out of the rabbit hole.
p.s. can't buy a bottle of beer really in WA?
Unvaccinated parents can’t visit their sick kids in hospital in WA. It’s got nothing to do with whether they’re infected or not, it’s persecution for non conformity to a political demand with no scientific or medical justification.
It’s not one bit different from those other examples. You just can’t see it because you’re a sociopath. Another suburban Sick Cnt like Scommo. Hiding amongst the normal humans.
Stok wrote:The more you learn hey?
Sounds like it's a hybrid solution - wasn't it Burleigh that was saying we should be looking after people's health, based on what they eat/drink?
You think you’re funny cunt?
You need to be confronted by the people you glibly cast to the wolves of political persecution. Physically if that’s what it takes to rid Australia of your sociopathy.
Actions have consequences. If you support hateful and divisive political oppression of dissidents and if you encourage and cheer the emotional , physical, mental social trauma inflicted on innocent Australians for political gain then you should be held accountable for your actions. It’s not up to you how your accountability will be meted.
This isn’t funny. This isn’t a topic of light discussion. This is genuine hurt being visited upon ordinary people who’ve done nothing wrong and who are not a threat to their fellow citizens. You are the threat.
Hey blowin, Still think healthy people shouldn't be vaccinated?
Fark me, you are that thick it's scary.
onto the 3rd 6 pack I'm thinking..lol. On form today.
Blowin wrote:You think you’re funny cunt?
You need to be confronted by the people you glibly cast to the wolves of political persecution. Physically if that’s what it takes to rid Australia of your sociopathy.
Actions have consequences. If you support hateful and divisive political oppression of dissidents and if you encourage and cheer the emotional , physical, mental social trauma inflicted on innocent Australians for political gain then you should be held accountable for your actions. It’s not up to you how your accountability will be meted.
This isn’t funny. This isn’t a topic of light discussion. This is genuine hurt being visited upon ordinary people who’ve done nothing wrong and who are not a threat to their fellow citizens. You are the threat.
Don't know if I'm funny, but I do find this thread and online conversation funny. Resorting to threats of violence? Thought you'd know better....nah not really. Not surprising.
You actively and openly drop little landmines of misinformation regarding vaccines in this thread. The poor people who are feeling hurt, and persecuted unfortunately have spent a bit too much time listening to online flogs like you, or social media grifters. They've turned a molehill into a mountain. Opportunists have jumped on this with glee, and have spread fear and distrust. You think you're the voice for the persecuted - blokemate - you're the voice which is fueling on their fear and confusion.
You're little comment before, about death apparently coming a few years after Myocarditis - is a perfect example of what is sending people over the edge.
Burleigh's daily updates on the TGA adverse reaction count - is another example.
I'd say take some responsibility for the stuff you post, but I know that aint going to happen.
And yes, please keep going - watching you show your true colours is very, very amusing.
"Blowin wrote:
You think you’re funny cunt?"
Anyone else here get the impression blowin's about 5'3" and spends a lot of time pumping weights to make himself feel bigger?
Vic Local wrote:"Blowin wrote:
You think you’re funny cunt?"
Anyone else here get the impression blowin's about 5'3" and spends a lot of time pumping weights to make himself feel bigger?
It would be great if everyone took a deep breath and began treating each other with a little more kindness.
Vic Local wrote:"Blowin wrote:
You think you’re funny cunt?"
Anyone else here get the impression blowin's about 5'3" and spends a lot of time pumping weights to make himself feel bigger?
I do now - some small man syndome vibes in his words for sure!
Stok wrote:Vic Local wrote:"Blowin wrote:
You think you’re funny cunt?"
Anyone else here get the impression blowin's about 5'3" and spends a lot of time pumping weights to make himself feel bigger?I do now - some small man syndome vibes in his words for sure!
He is a bully...and would have been all through school, into work, and would be the biggest mouthy ahole in the lineup. Tolerated but not liked. 100% a mummy's boy...and shitty behaviour would have been excused by mummy, which is why he is the person he is now.
Friday is always the day blowin goes full kook. lmao.
Craig wrote:Stok wrote:Craig wrote:I'm not for mandates when the vaccines are having less of an impact regarding transmission with Omicron.
It seems like all the data coming out now will prevent that from happening in any case. I think Dan Andrew's is overstepping the mark saying third should be mandated. We'll see what happens.
You're seemingly too centre sitting, and rational of a thinker for this thread Craig - but anyway, intrigued to know what you think Dan Andrews would gain out of overstepping the mark? Why do you think he's doing it?
I too agree that at some point if transmission is not an issue, hospitalisation is not an issue, then yes we should walk away from boosters, but I'm not claiming to have any position as to when that should be.
If there's evidence showing that being infected gives appropriate immunity (hence not needing a booster as well) and if we keep seeing the variants waning etc then I don't see the need for mandates.
Boosters look to help for waning immunity from both vaccines and being infected 6 months + down the line but if above, can be left for the individual to make the call if the stress on the hospitals etc remains low.
It's not something I've spent much time worrying about to be honest, the third.
guess you are a fan of the PM after all, or is it just on here, your not when agreeing with your surf media mates on insta
stuckinthe80s wrote:Vic Local wrote:"Blowin wrote:
You think you’re funny cunt?"
Anyone else here get the impression blowin's about 5'3" and spends a lot of time pumping weights to make himself feel bigger?It would be great if everyone took a deep breath and began treating each other with a little more kindness.
It’s a distinct lack of kindness and empathy from these muppets which gets me frustrated in the first place. These guys are all too happy to have our bullying politicians treat innocent citizens like pieces of shit. An occasional unkind word in their direction is the least they deserve.
I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..
There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia