COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster

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Craig started the topic in Wednesday, 18 Mar 2020 at 7:44pm

I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..

There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia

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Stok Wednesday, 2 Feb 2022 at 11:25pm

Thought:

Covid has been a great demonstration of how well a virus can destabilise things.

Terrorists, or anyone wanting to cause major disruption, now will surely put bio attacks through transmitted viruses high up on their list of ways to fuck things up.

The world is now ripe and ready for a Bioterrorism event, with the weariness from covid being strong enough that further lockdowns and restrictions will almost certainly initially be met with significant pushback.

Have we learnt much from covid, yes, but we've also lost a lot of trust, respect and the ability to come together unanimously to fight off crises.

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sypkan Wednesday, 2 Feb 2022 at 11:52pm

thought:

is this dude - as an 'academic' - really not aware of the goings on in the wuhan lab, and the possible implications of this virus?

emphasis on 'possible'

seriously dude, you need to get out more

of your bubble

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truebluebasher Wednesday, 2 Feb 2022 at 11:58pm

Exclusive : Gaping Holes in Oz Herd Immunity
Crew often read about under reporting of Covid...
tbb thought to investigate the pre covid default under count...or if there is one?
Review covers Oz Births > School access > Illness > Disability > Deaths

Only 50% of Births & Deaths are recorded world wide.
Recorded Births have only recently increased from 50% > 63% in 2009 > 75% in 2019
Unrecorded Births research goes against the Flow...tbb will share this link with shared Oz data.
https://www.healthdata.org/causes-death
https://www.unicef.org.au/about-us/media/december-2019/despite-significa...

Unregistered Births > NSW Includes Aboriginal 5% > Qld 1.8% + 18% Aboriginal also WA 17%
re: Also Mothers on Visas / Students / Violent Partners / Wrong Father / Born outta wedlock / Disability
Even by school age > these Oz families live a life of fear...hiding child / avoiding proof of existence!
*Oz Vax Rollout may discount up to 18% of First Nation children & still be viewed as 100%.
*Consider most unreported population lives in lowest vaxed WA / Qld Aboriginal Population.
tbb is saying to use yer own smarts on how impossible Herd immunity is in the 2 biggest States!
Experts will need to convince the Mob otherwise!

US School teaches how to be an Ignorant VIP Bully & cordon off outcast Unvaxed Truants
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10444529/Los-Angeles-charter-sc...

Disability Hub : https://pwd.org.au/covid-19-hub/

6.2% or 1.6 million of current Aussies were born with rare undiagnosed incurable illness.
A further 400,000 Aussies will also develop undiagnosed incurable illnesses.
7.7% or 2 million of Current Oz Population will live & die with an undiagnosed incurable illness
https://www.9news.com.au/national/rare-diseases-the-doctors-solving-aust...
100 World Wide Clinics + 40 specialists working 6 years just to diagnose 10 kidz/year...(60/2m)
400 patients with 10 rare conditions get access to 16 PBS medications >The Chosen Few! (400/2m)

Experts know nothing of Vax reaction on 6.2% undiagnosed Oz Birth defects yet say it's fine. ( Lies! )
*2 million tormented by a mystery illness won't be queuing for a shot at any mystery virus vax reaction.
*Experts know shit of 2m chronic Patients but mandate their infectious Vax'n'Covid combo shot...(Cruel!)
There is no health plan for sufferers to get Vax Ready > just take the jab & die already!

4.4m Disabled Aussies...(M/F even) NDIS funds 63% Men over 37% Females > 500,000 over 5 years
70% of carers are female > 90% for Kidz + 35% of these women have a disability.
4.4% use a wheel chair or 193,600
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-02/women-make-up-half-disability-pop...
*Qld Covid > Current Disabled told to go it alone...
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/feb/02/do-what-you-reaso...

17.4% or at least 2.2 billion of World have vision impairment.
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/blindness-and-visual-im...
570,00 in Oz are Vision Impaired > (70% are over the age of 70)
Over 50% of us have one or more chronic long term eye conditions...
*28-50% of visually impaired populous are cut out from Booking Vax & DIY Covid Tests.

1 million + Deaf Community in Australia.
Many would know of Vax > Deaf Link...recent article expands on this theme.
https://www.aarp.org/health/conditions-treatments/info-2020/hearing-loss...
Crew have their fav' Sign Interpreters on Telly...but have Deaf community suffered more so!
Masks quickly shrink their world...here's a Scottish Survey (Results are resounding!)
Biggest Problems > Best Hearing % / Poor Hearing%
Muffled Mask Sound > 85% / 93% + Loss of Lip reading > 68% / 81% + Long Term Masks > 42% / 66%
+ Mask fouls Aid > 30% / 50% > Key Staff Clear Masks > 53% / 73% > Distant Masks > 33% / 60%
( Most concerning ) > Hearing Aid Batteries etc 40% / 75%
Crew can read that Loss of Independence in a muffled & blurred world reverts to a harsh disability...

Video Era proved a vital alternative to compensate the Deaf but less so for groups.
More Zoom etc > 75% / 78% + Covid TV > 76% / 53% + Subtitles 58% / 72%
Note poor of hearing aren't keen on TV Sign Language & prefer subtitles but reverses for less deaf.
file:///C:/Users/Owner/Downloads/Covid_19_Lockdown_Affects_Hearing_Disability_and.3%20(1).pdf

13.4% Aussies die without a diagnoses.
10.5% of these will have Autopsies..but cause of deaths is not shared.
None of these deaths will ever be recorded in State / National statistics
*Undeclared deaths might now include as 'Covid deaths' to bump natural death rates!

Searching for unknown cause of Illness / Death goes against the flow & took some time.
Rather eerily ended up in the Australian Museum Morgue...(The Wot!) best to share that eerie link.
https://australian.museum/about/history/exhibitions/death-the-last-taboo...

Up to 18% Aussie births not registered + 6.2% born > 7.7% live > 13.4% die with no explanation?

Ok! So crew noticed as well! Experts can now actually make more suffer longer? That's an art form!

Only wanna chance to live a shadow of our former lives & don't fancy a perfume that attracts Omicron.
At least return our care to get us well enough to Vax & please stop Doctors Bullying & demonising us!

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Blowin Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 5:20am

Still trading on the lie that vaccines stop transmission. Facts don’t matter to the Covid Cultists.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/western-australia/wa-caf-s-close-dine-in...

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Blowin Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 6:28am

From The Conversation:

Excellent rejection of the ridiculous notion by one commenter that it’s “ misinformation to claim that healthy young people don’t need vaccination “. :

The reply…..

“Perhaps your post is misinformation?

If you make a claim, back it up.

Someone 20-29 years old, has approximately 0.01% chance of dying from COVID (prior to Omicron). ¾ of those deaths would be in unhealthy people.

Australia has approximately 3,952,500 people between 20-29.

Completely unvaccinated, with 100% infection of every single Australian aged 20-29 would result in 395 deaths. 100 of those deaths would be in relatively healthy people.

If we vaccinated those 4 million Australians, at a minimum cost of $510,000,000 we would save maybe 90 of those healthy Australians (I’m being generous with all this figures by the way).

That would only cost us $5.7 million to save one of those healthy lives. Bargain.

So let’s be real. We would never get 100% infection across that age group.Boosters would wane for everyone got infected.New variant would emerge before everyone got infected.This is assuming no other treatments to reduce mortality.

It’s also ignoring the reality that everyone got vaccinated for a Delta outbreak that never happened. Even with Omicron going crazy, only 10% of Australian’s have caught COVID.

So now we’ve vaccinated 4 million young Australians, how many will have adverse reactions? How many will die from those adverse reactions, and how many will only have life-long debilitating nerve damage?

Again, being generous, let’s assume only 25 per 100,000 doses for myocarditis.https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2021/12/covid-19...

So we’ll have 2,000 cases of myocarditis or pericarditis (assuming zero risk for a booster, being generous again) plus all the other adverse reactions.If you’re male, your risk is double that of a female.

For round 2, we can look at the teenager age group too? It’s considerably worse for them.

So please, enlighten this foolish anti-vaxxer into how someone giving their opinion that healthy young adults don’t need to get the jab is dangerous misinformation?

Imagine you’re in that age group.

Now we have hindsight, what were the chances of 100% infection in Australia in 9 months? Answer = zero!

What are the chances you (a healthy young adult) would be one of the 10 or so healthy young adults that would die from COVID, out of 4 million of your peers?

If you still get the vaccine out of fear you would die without it, you’re nuts.”

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tylerdurden Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 6:36am

Tbb yet again another very informative post.
Blowin, that’s relevant information against the narrative but is easily shot down with the all encompassing come back: anti-vaxxer.
That surpasses all statistics.
At the end of the day it’s incredibly complicated. I suspect the very low mortality rate from Covid could be even lower with more early treatment options.
Molnipiravir and Paclovid have been added to the NCCET guidelines with from what I can gather no peer reviewed published evidence...go figure

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Blowin Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 6:43am

There is no evidence in the world which demonstrates a statistically significant reduction in absolute risk of severe illness or death from covid by vaccination in younger healthy people.

None. Nada. Zero. Zilch.

To claim otherwise is misinformation AKA bullshit and lies.

That’s Sicko stuff.

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Blowin Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 7:22am

MSM combating misinformation….lol

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Supafreak Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 7:42am

Now, following the FDA’s intervention, Pfizer and BioNTech are not waiting for data from that amended trial to submit the vaccine for authorization in the age group. The company said that they are submitting data on the safety and efficacy of two three-microgram doses, and will submit additional data on the third three-microgram dose when it is available.
https://www.barrons.com/articles/pfizer-and-biontech-seek-authorization-...

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Blowin Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 8:55am
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NZ might be opening soon.https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-omicron-outbreak-non-quarantine-f...

Yep. Saint Cindy dropping her determined ideology like a salad sandwich with a used condom found inside. She’s such a refreshing change after all those other politicians who are only concerned about image and votes….lol.

She’s locked Kiwis out of their home country for years just to chase a percieved bump in the polls. Rather than doing something constructive like increasing quarantine facilities, she victim blamed innocent and uninfected citizens when they tried to return home to their loved ones. She deliberately fomenting social hate against people because they choose to not get the jab.

She doesn’t give a rat’s arse for humans if there’s a vote to be gained.

She’s a horse headed cnt.

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Blowin Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 9:02am

Ration and reason sending the triple masked , nappy clad bed wetters scurrying for their basements.

Contrast this common sense humanism with the deranged, unhinged and hateful politicisation of public health in Australia.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/welcome-to-denmark-where-covid-is-fi...

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Blowin Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 9:09am

Bed wetters : “ The majority of the population are vaccinated, this shows that they weren’t coerced by mandates and they know the vaccines save us all .”

Also Bed Wetters : “ Boosters need to be mandated because people don’t care and we need to stop the spread.”

Unhinged. Deranged. Insane. Petty tyrants who need a boot in the date.

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udo Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 9:15am

J.A.
Horse headed or Horse Hung
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1qikUdCOe-4

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burleigh Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 9:34am
Blowin wrote:

Bed wetters : “ The majority of the population are vaccinated, this shows that they weren’t coerced by mandates and they know the vaccines save us all .”

Also Bed Wetters : “ Boosters need to be mandated because people don’t care and we need to stop the spread.”

Unhinged. Deranged. Insane. Petty tyrants who need a boot in the date.

Yep. That’s Stok

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Supafreak Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 9:47am
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The term 'fully vaccinated' could be soon be replaced with 'up to date on vaccinations', as the government's vaccine advisory body weighs up other changes to the COVID-19 vaccine program. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-02/atagi-considering-fully-vaccinate...

So what?

So what you ask , so this could well be heading in the direction that until you get a booster you’re not considered fully vaccinated ( up to date ) and therefore can’t get on a international flight or do your job in certain sectors etc etc . When does the ‘ up to date ‘ finish? every 3-4 months ? Where is the ‘ science ‘ in all of this ? Plenty of ‘ experts ‘ warning against this even the WHO , but some will blindly go along with anything the government tells them .

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Supafreak Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 9:49am
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J.A.
Horse headed or Horse Hung
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1qikUdCOe-4

That was very disturbing udo

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Ben Harding Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 10:03am
Blowin wrote:

Ration and reason sending the triple masked , nappy clad bed wetters scurrying for their basements.

Contrast this common sense humanism with the deranged, unhinged and hateful politicisation of public health in Australia.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/welcome-to-denmark-where-covid-is-fi...

Was just reading this article.

You're all over it. One by one the dominoes are beginning to fall. Who's up next I wonder.

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velocityjohnno Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 10:13am

Most interested in the economic progression at this point, I wonder what they thought, open up and everything will be 2019 (rubbing hands together).

Haven't looked for a few days, but things are so good that NSW businesses need 1Billion dollar handout. Politics never ceases to amaze - here we have the libertarian turned into... yet another interventionist! boo!

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/billion-dollar-support-package-for-n...

It's for February, so won't cover January losses. Thought for the day, from the comments:

"They’re just wasting money. We have changed as a society and some of these businesses will not survive anyway. They need to be left to fail. How many coffee shops do we need in the CBD; when in the long term no one will be retuning to the office 5 days a week."

How many of us here came of age in the last real recession (worst since 1920's/30's in Australia) - the early 1990s? Do you remember what it, and employment, was like? The fantasy land that has existed since has created an illusion that every part of the world and business needs to be protected to exist in exactly the same fashion as it did yesterday, tomorrow. That's not how things work - sometimes we should let them fail. In the chaos that unfolds, the creative destruction, old and inefficient or artificially propped-up business models are destroyed and new ones form in the ashes. There is nourishment in ashes, to quote Robert Bly.

I see it in my tea leaves, it has taken increasingly clear form.

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Stok Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 10:37am
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How many of us here came of age in the last real recession (worst since 1920's/30's in Australia) - the early 1990s? Do you remember what it, and employment, was like? The fantasy land that has existed since has created an illusion that every part of the world and business needs to be protected to exist in exactly the same fashion as it did yesterday, tomorrow. That's not how things work - sometimes we should let them fail. In the chaos that unfolds, the creative destruction, old and inefficient or artificially propped-up business models are destroyed and new ones form in the ashes. There is nourishment in ashes, to quote Robert Bly.

I see it in my tea leaves, it has taken increasingly clear form.

I stopped drinking tea....every time I looked at the leaves it always got me down!

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burleigh Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 10:39am

Another 10 year old boy with Myocarditis reported to TGA today.

Report number: 697752

Why would you vaccinate your children against a mild virus when the vaccine does not stop transmission?

IMO only if you’re sick in the head.

Same day they approved boosters for 16 - 17 year olds.

Gotta use the excess stock of Pfizer. It’s got an expiry date

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Again, being generous, let’s assume only 25 per 100,000 doses for myocarditis.https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2021/12/covid-19...

25 cases of Myocarditis per 100K? Is that real?

That cost of $5.7M is a massive oversimplification too. As you'd need to weight it up against cost of hospitalisation, time off work, risk of transmitting it and causing other infected person's costs to be added in.

Regardless, again, only focusing on death rates for that age population.....on and on you go. Completely ignoring the long term effects, hospitalisations etc. etc. which covid does cause in younger people.

All this shows Blowin, is you're not purposely trying to spread misinformation, you're just not smart enough to recognise misinformation. You clearly don't want the vaccine, don't want madates, don't want lockdowns, so this is your way of justifying your position - cherry picking articles and slabs of text which you think proves your point. Too bad you continually miss the mark.

p.s. Delta hasn't disappeared, and the vaccines reduce transmission of Delta.

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Stok Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 10:51am
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So what you ask , so this could well be heading in the direction that until you get a booster you’re not considered fully vaccinated ( up to date ) and therefore can’t get on a international flight or do your job in certain sectors etc etc . When does the ‘ up to date ‘ finish? every 3-4 months ? Where is the ‘ science ‘ in all of this ? Plenty of ‘ experts ‘ warning against this even the WHO , but some will blindly go along with anything the government tells them .

Pretty straight forward stuff Supa - covid is not completely gone yet, the vaccines lose their effectiveness after 3-6 months - so yes it would make sense to consider someone up to date with their vaccines if they have a booster.

This isn't going to continue forever. Don't listen to the fearmongers. Last year everyone was banging on about how big pharma is coming for their kids. School is back now, and there's been no mention of mandates at all.

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Stok Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 10:54am
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Another 10 year old boy with Myocarditis reported to TGA today.

Report number: 697752

Why would you vaccinate your children against a mild virus when the vaccine does not stop transmission?

IMO only if you’re sick in the head.

Same day they approved boosters for 16 - 17 year olds.

Gotta use the excess stock of Pfizer. It’s got an expiry date

Thankfully, no one listens to your opinion.

We've got much smarter people undertaking analysis and providing recommendations, free of emotion, such that overall the best outcome for our children will be achieved.

Burlsack on the other hand, is learning from his favourite grifters (i.e. the Primod) about how to use individual cases to play to peoples emotions, ignoring the lives saved and sicknesses prevented in children through vaccination.

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Supafreak Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 11:02am
Stok wrote:
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So what you ask , so this could well be heading in the direction that until you get a booster you’re not considered fully vaccinated ( up to date ) and therefore can’t get on a international flight or do your job in certain sectors etc etc . When does the ‘ up to date ‘ finish? every 3-4 months ? Where is the ‘ science ‘ in all of this ? Plenty of ‘ experts ‘ warning against this even the WHO , but some will blindly go along with anything the government tells them .

Pretty straight forward stuff Supa - covid is not completely gone yet, the vaccines lose their effectiveness after 3-6 months - so yes it would make sense to consider someone up to date with their vaccines if they have a booster.

This isn't going to continue forever. Don't listen to the fearmongers. Last year everyone was banging on about how big pharma is coming for their kids. School is back now, and there's been no mention of mandates at all.

WTF are you talking about ? No mandates in schools ? You’re of ya frigging head . https://education.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/advice-for-families/vaccination-re... In the US some states are currently pushing for mandatory vaccination in schools for young kids, they are already in most universities that have young men in the age bracket that has the highest rate of myocarditis which you will probably say ‘ oh it’s just mild ‘ instead of bagging everyone , why don’t you put up some current links that ‘ follow the science’ in regards to boosters for all .

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Stok wrote:
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Another 10 year old boy with Myocarditis reported to TGA today.

Report number: 697752

Why would you vaccinate your children against a mild virus when the vaccine does not stop transmission?

IMO only if you’re sick in the head.

Same day they approved boosters for 16 - 17 year olds.

Gotta use the excess stock of Pfizer. It’s got an expiry date

Thankfully, no one listens to your opinion.

We've got much smarter people undertaking analysis and providing recommendations, free of emotion, such that overall the best outcome for our children will be achieved.

Burlsack on the other hand, is learning from his favourite grifters (i.e. the Primod) about how to use individual cases to play to peoples emotions, ignoring the lives saved and sicknesses prevented in children through vaccination.

Bed wetter. You need help.

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Stok Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 11:49am

Slow down Supa & Bonza - I was referring to mandates for children under the age of 12. Not referring to the already in place mandates. It was the fucking war cry of the unvaxxed army last year. No mention of it that I'm aware of (perhaps you geniuses can help find a link?).

Oh, and Supa, I don't (or at least, try not to) share links to back up any of my points as for a few reasons. Firstly - I don't think it's appropriate to try to build a case for something you have little experience or knowledge about, yet clearly have strong emotions and biases in (which we all do!). Secondly - I generally get my information from sources which are consistently attacked on this forum as being part of some form of great reset, big pharma kill everyone, chairman Dan China takeover, 5G lizard people master plan for the future. So there's not much point. Thirdly - I just can't be bothered.

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Stok Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 11:50am
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Bed wetter. You need help.

Honestly mate, at least go out and get a tetanus shot will ya?
i feel it's irresponsible for me not to keep reminding you!

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burleigh wrote:

Another 10 year old boy with Myocarditis reported to TGA today.

Report number: 697752

Why would you vaccinate your children against a mild virus when the vaccine does not stop transmission?

IMO only if you’re sick in the head.

Same day they approved boosters for 16 - 17 year olds.

Gotta use the excess stock of Pfizer. It’s got an expiry date

10 year old child died of covid yesterday. Yet, here you are not giving a fuck

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Supafreak Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 12:01pm
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Slow down Supa & Bonza - I was referring to mandates for children under the age of 12. Not referring to the already in place mandates. It was the fucking war cry of the unvaxxed army last year. No mention of it that I'm aware of (perhaps you geniuses can help find a link?).

Oh, and Supa, I don't (or at least, try not to) share links to back up any of my points as for a few reasons. Firstly - I don't think it's appropriate to try to build a case for something you have little experience or knowledge about, yet clearly have strong emotions and biases in (which we all do!). Secondly - I generally get my information from sources which are consistently attacked on this forum as being part of some form of great reset, big pharma kill everyone, chairman Dan China takeover, 5G lizard people master plan for the future. So there's not much point. Thirdly - I just can't be bothered.

Yet when people put up links from government or leading medical journals or even data , if they don’t follow your narrative you then right them off . How do you expect to gain any credibility if you have nothing to back your opinion ?

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Supafreak wrote:
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Slow down Supa & Bonza - I was referring to mandates for children under the age of 12. Not referring to the already in place mandates. It was the fucking war cry of the unvaxxed army last year. No mention of it that I'm aware of (perhaps you geniuses can help find a link?).

Oh, and Supa, I don't (or at least, try not to) share links to back up any of my points as for a few reasons. Firstly - I don't think it's appropriate to try to build a case for something you have little experience or knowledge about, yet clearly have strong emotions and biases in (which we all do!). Secondly - I generally get my information from sources which are consistently attacked on this forum as being part of some form of great reset, big pharma kill everyone, chairman Dan China takeover, 5G lizard people master plan for the future. So there's not much point. Thirdly - I just can't be bothered.

Yet when people put up links from government or leading medical journals or even data , if they don’t follow your narrative you then right them off . How do you expect to gain any credibility if you have nothing to back your opinion ?

Let’s be honest here….Stok is a bit of a dumb cunt.

He’s still claiming that the vaccines prevent transmission amongst other ludicrous propositions.

The alternative to him being a dumb cunt is that he’s a liar.

Pick one. Pick both . No difference as far as his truthless opinions goes. I’m done with these retards.

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Stok Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 12:11pm

Supa, the way I see it, credibility and a discussion about pandemic health advice on an anonymous surf forum is pure dissonance.

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bonza Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 12:15pm

yet here you are

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Blowin Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 12:31pm
Stok wrote:

Supa, the way I see it, credibility and a discussion about pandemic health advice on an anonymous surf forum is pure dissonance.

Bloke….you speak of credibility like you even know what it entails. You provably do not. You just post pure bullshit cause you enjoy it and it suits your crazy opinions. If you’re an academic, which I highly fucken doubt, then the tertiary education system is truly in the toilet.

I get the feeling that you think you’re clever and your posts are humorous. Wrong on both counts. You speak with a light heart but your attitude is pure evil hate and divisiveness.

You’re a modern day eugenist who blithely throws out science fiction to support your bitter desire to seperate society along arbitrary lines of your own choosing.

Your a proper loser bloke.

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Stok Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 12:32pm

Yep Bonza, we're all here, just some of us feel we're better placed to make recommendations about Australian health policies than the rest of us, based on their resurch skills.

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Your a proper loser bloke.

No one's winning here Blowin.....but I do count the following as SMALL wins:
- Disrupting the discourse of this thread, which is rotten to the core with misinformation and personal bias.
- Bringing to light the colourful characters who frequently share said misinformation, or are just plain nutcase anti vax lunatics. You're like a peacock Blowin, happy to show off your true colours to all, and I assure you, they're as amusing as they are insane!

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Blowin Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 12:36pm
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Yep Bonza, we're all here, just some of us feel we're better placed to make recommendations about Australian health policies than the rest of us, based on their resurch skills.

Blowin wrote:

Your a proper loser bloke.

No one's winning here Blowin.....but I do count the following as SMALL wins:
- Disrupting the discourse of this thread, which is rotten to the core with misinformation and personal bias.
- Bringing to light the colourful characters who frequently share said misinformation, or are just plain nutcase anti vax lunatics.

The only thing you’ve achieved is to post the same old lies which no one believes anymore. You’ve made yourself look like a clown in the process. If you’d truly contradicted anyone’s points of view with facts I would not be calling you out, but you haven’t and you don’t.

Take your hypochondriac shit and get bent.

You sound like another shit scared old authoritarian boomer like Sicko Blindboy or Neil Young.

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aaron61 Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 12:54pm

Another horrendous day with the unvaxxed over represented.

"Three of the nine Queensland deaths were completely unvaccinated, and one had a single dose.
Of the deaths, one was in their 60s, two were in their 70s, three in their 80s, one in their 90s and two over 100".

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bonza Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 12:54pm

science communication stok. you are doing it wrong.

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Blowin Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 1:06pm

Right wing nut job neo Nazi violent extremists

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Blowin Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 1:09pm

True leadership to fill the vacuum created by a corrupt and psychopathic political class

https://twitter.com/Partisan_O/status/1488985135785594881?s=20&t=f4aq-4kN8CWLNWyEJgk2HQ

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Supafreak Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 1:17pm
aaron61 wrote:

Another horrendous day with the unvaxxed over represented.

"Three of the nine Queensland deaths were completely unvaccinated, and one had a single dose.
Of the deaths, one was in their 60s, two were in their 70s, three in their 80s, one in their 90s and two over 100".

@aaron61 , does your stats say which ages were unvaccinated ? Some very elderly and frail like over 90 weren’t vaccinated as they would possibly die from the vaccine, this was the case in some countries early in the rollouts and recent news from Norway . thttps://www.tga.gov.au/media-release/norwegian-investigation-covid-19-va... https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/tga-flags-possible-covid-vacci... https://www.euronews.com/2021/01/15/norway-adjusts-advice-for-elderly-an...

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truebluebasher Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 1:17pm

NSW Mass Vax Atrocities.
(Includes lower vaxed / high infectious 12 y/o upwards) re: Stats paint Vax in best light.

18th Dec
(5.1%) No Vax 658 infections (7.14%) or 2.04% above their hesitant group.
( 94.9%)1/2 Vaxed 8,555 infections (92.86%) or 2.04% less than Vax group.
Mass Vax efficacy Rate is not worth the $billions & the infections are soaring high!

TGA Mass Vax warning! (You must not ramp infection higher than natural unvaxed Covid rate.)

Xmas Day & Baby Jesus is weeping in Dom's arms...
(5%) No Vax 617 infections (2.33%) or 2.67% less than Hesitant Group. (Mop up begins!)
(95%) 1/2 Vaxed 25,841 infections (97.67%) or 2.67% above their Vax Group.
Mass Vaxerz are now spreading 5.34% faster than WR Omicron rate! (TGA : "It's not a Race!")

New Years Day (Mass Vax Infection Rally gears up a notch)
(5%) No Vax 642 infections ( 0.87%) or 4.13% less than Hesitant group > Mass Mop up heroes.
(95%) 1/2 Vaxed 72,877 infections (99.13%) or 4.13% above their Vax Group.
Mass Vaxers are now spreading 8.26% faster than WR omicron rate (TGA : Going for Gold!)

8th Jan
(5%) No Vax 779 infections (0.48%) or 4.52% less than Hesitant Group > #1 Oz Covid Cure.
(95%) 1/2 Vaxed 160,595 infections (99.52%) or 4.52% above their Vax Group.
Mass Vaxers are now spreading 9.04% faster than WR Omicron. (TGA : Gold Standard!)

Credit : Page 26 Total Covid -19 by Vax Status "Week Ending!" (U 11 + Under Investigation n/a)
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/covid-19-sur...

Poor Covid trained hard for over 2 years but was Bullied out by Gold Standard TGA Vax.
Can Daggy's unvaxed Palmy Army cough up a Mutant VOC to kill off WR Oz Vax strain.

Will Premiers & MSM now please apologize for their Mass Hospital Crisis & Killing Fields.
Unvaxed be allowed to continue mopping up the Mass Vax mess to save our Nation from itself.
So that's the end of the killings or are we weeding out 100's of Complicated School Kidz!
Vax is Dead! All hail Vax!

PS : Coughing Covid = $11,000 fine (vs) Mass Covid Infection of Nation = Priceless!
Breaking News : Mass Vax Lotto Winners huddle for the Omicron origin Super Draw.

NSW data re-label #101 Notification....(On account of Above % Vax over-spill revelation!)
Crew will notice that next edition shows a huge Jump anomaly in "No effective Dose" Tally?
Each time Vaxed push over 50% or Own Vax % data > NSW dump more onto No Effective Vax.
8th Jan > [ 2 Dose / 1 dose / No Effective Dose / Under Investigation / Under 11 / Total]
15th Jan > [ 3 dose / 2 dose / 1 dose / No effective / Under Investigation / [?] / Total ]
No Effective Dose > 21 days + None + All Historical [+] Vaxed or not Kids + (o/s Hot Hospital)
Basically NSW just shit all over these partially clean set of Stats to bury & rewrite their Vax fail.

No effective Dose was created to further frame Hesitants by taking the heat off...Vax fuck ups!
Mass Vax infection leaks + Mass Mates o/s careflight Dumps
Note Back 2 School Vax outbreak is Ramping > (Censored) ...same each Vax upgrade.
MSM get the Cue to Blame "No effective Dose" Kids must step into line...set & repeat >
Faster the Kidz Mass Vax the faster the Unvaxed kidz get infected & blamed for Vax Outbreak!

From day one Vic / SA / Qld / UK all censor Titles & dump data loads (All can see it & know it!)
Anything to pretend that their Vax isn't ramping a faster Pandemic...to suit their own agenda!
All do it & think people are too stupid to notice...tbb's father in law mocks their dodgy promos!

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sypkan Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 2:29pm

from vj

"It's for February, so won't cover January losses. Thought for the day, from the comments:

"They’re just wasting money. We have changed as a society and some of these businesses will not survive anyway. They need to be left to fail. How many coffee shops do we need in the CBD; when in the long term no one will be retuning to the office 5 days a week."

How many of us here came of age in the last real recession (worst since 1920's/30's in Australia) - the early 1990s? Do you remember what it, and employment, was like? The fantasy land that has existed since has created an illusion that every part of the world and business needs to be protected to exist in exactly the same fashion as it did yesterday, tomorrow. That's not how things work - sometimes we should let them fail. In the chaos that unfolds, the creative destruction, old and inefficient or artificially propped-up business models are destroyed and new ones form in the ashes. There is nourishment in ashes, to quote Robert Bly.

I see it in my tea leaves, it has taken increasingly clear form."

yep

someone needs balls up to break it to the plebs though... the hand outs for everything expectations are now off the charts!

society has changed

habits have changed

old ways definitely need a dose of 'creative destruction'

sadly, six dollar coffees and smahed avo brekkies will become a thing of the past for many people / places

but at the same time, a friend with a pre corona comfortably just surviving food business, has become a booming little haven, constantly seeking new staff... awash with government money no doubt... distributed by government and via the public's wallets... but certain places, nice places, away from the madness, with little virus, and away from the once urban utopia seem to be doing ok...

for now

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Supafreak Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 2:30pm

Those bloody Russians are up to no good again .