COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster
100% for spelling that time
wel dun burley
haha
Robo wrote:embarrassing to be a part of it really looking back.
Your posts have been good for a laugh, very hard to be insulted when you're using an anonymous profile, and someone else is doing the same!
And yes I resonate with this one - but, the more mistakes you make in life, the wiser you become right?
So who's dirty work are you doing Burleigh?
Clive Palmer's?
mikehunt207 wrote:100% for spelling that time
wel dun burley
You’re kidding right? Did you read your first paragraph from last night? Were you drunk?
If you live in a glass house, don’t throw rocks
Kelly slater with a big Fk you to vic, stok, rk, bb all all the rest.
Kelly, we’re not worthy of your entrance anyway. Stick it up em
Haha being the best surfer ever doesn't make you an expert epidemiologist..
Looks like someone's blinded by the stardom.
Obviously not but even Kelly knows if you’re vaccinated you’re still going to get COVID. Unlike dr Coatsworth who quoted the exact opposite yesterday unbelievably. He’s only a key medical ADVISER but yeah what would the rest of us know.
Obviously not but even Kelly knows if you’re vaccinated you’re still going to get COVID. Unlike dr Coatsworth who quoted the exact opposite yesterday unbelievably. He’s only a key medical ADVISER but yeah what would the rest of us know.
mikehunt207 wrote:100% for spelling that time
wel dun burley
Not quite. 2 errors. Grammatically incorrect.
Gotta make hay.
://www.king5.com/article/news/nation-world/pfizer-fda-covid-vaccine-kids-un...
Stok wrote:@Mikehunt
Thanks!....not sure why I do it really, or how much longer I'll bother doing it. I'm clearly outnumbered here!
Luckily this thread is not a true reflection of society.
You’re right there bloke.
Here the bed wetters make up about a third of the posters. In real life I’ve only met one or two. Bed wetters are over represented online, just like wokesters. Same crowd really.
Craig wrote:Haha being the best surfer ever doesn't make you an expert epidemiologist..
Looks like someone's blinded by the stardom.
What’s your justification for not letting Kelly in Craig?
Punitive punishment for not conforming.
interesting indo has announced special arrangements for unvaccinated
new rules, 5 day quarrantine for vaccinated
7 days quarrantine for unvaccinated
gonna be real interesting if fuckwit dan gets his way (ive given up on the somewhat flippant and facetious dictator dan... and just decided he is a supreme fuckwit...) if he gets his way making boosters mandatory...
will returning ozzies soon need to be 4 monthly 'boosted' to count as vaccinated?
could get real messy... not easy getting a booster in indo and other places...
and these are the things some of you thick and compliant minions need to think about... whilst blindly 'following the science' ...that often doesn't remotely follow the science...
making boosters mandatory in one domain might make sense... but there are always much wider, far reaching implications...
same with child vaccines, it may be 'voluntary' now, but if 70 - 80% of unecessarily scared into submission parents get on board with child vaccinatiins... how long until that comes mandatory too?
not bloody long!
then a 4 monthly school booster program...
becomes 3 monthly...
this dog chasing tail desperation needs nipping in the bud real quick
at a minimum, the 'bureaucratic inertia' in australia has got some real strong momentum atm
...heading in a very different direction to the rest of the world...
time to be asking why?
should we be?
and what the hell for?
a little pause for reflection seems prudent at this juncture, rather than going the normal australian way, of ful over the top indulgance nanny state bullshit...
because winding it back, is always harder than rolling it out...
boy have we seen that to be true!!!
We are all going to have to say NO to the govt sooner or later….
Now is the best time if not already too late…
sypkan wrote:interesting indo has announced special arrangements for unvaccinated
new rules, 5 day quarrantine for vaccinated
7 days quarrantine for unvaccinated
Oh wow, this is great news.
burleigh wrote:sypkan wrote:interesting indo has announced special arrangements for unvaccinated
new rules, 5 day quarrantine for vaccinated
7 days quarrantine for unvaccinated
Oh wow, this is great news.
Has Australia been added to the allowed countries list ?
This from the Telegraph UK: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/02/01/covid-really-deadly-flu-omic...
Blowin wrote:Stok wrote:@Mikehunt
Thanks!....not sure why I do it really, or how much longer I'll bother doing it. I'm clearly outnumbered here!
Luckily this thread is not a true reflection of society.
You’re right there bloke.
Here the bed wetters make up about a third of the posters. In real life I’ve only met one or two. Bed wetters are over represented online, just like wokesters. Same crowd really.
online is also full of delusional fuckwits...just like you, snowflake.
monkeyboy
yep
not sure when, but soon
Yeah sypkan great news!but meanwhile back here in oz,the airlines?will u be able to get on a plane without the 'wiggdy wicked whacked jab'?
troppo dichotomy wrote:Yeah sypkan great news!but meanwhile back here in oz,the airlines?will u be able to get on a plane without the 'wiggdy wicked whacked jab'?
From what i understand as long as the airline will take you its ok.
Coming back in you might have to spend some time in the Governments naughty covid jails, but TBH coming back doesn't sound all that appealing right now anyway.
A year long family trip to Indo sounds great.
actually, not sure about that unvaccinated entry thingy...
seems the article has been edited
and disclaimer, these announcements often don't eventuate, and bali sun not the best source...
but some of it's true... i promise!
(the flights bit is)
https://thebalisun.com/bali-to-reopen-for-tourism-to-all-countries-start...
TGA adverse events reports from 19th Feb:
Report number 697370 - 7 year old girl with myocarditis
4 year old boy - product administered to inappropriate age
5 year old boy - Wrong product administered
Do not vaccinate your kids to make bed wetters feel safe. It's child abuse
troppo dichotomy wrote:Yeah sypkan great news!but meanwhile back here in oz,the airlines?will u be able to get on a plane without the 'wiggdy wicked whacked jab'?
oh yeh... didn't think of that bit...
I think that'll be a resounding NO mr. troppo
which takes us back to my point above... about what constitutes being 'vaccinated'?
...and curtailing the desperation and power trippy-ness of people like fuckwit chairman dan!
Looks like everyone’s about to be classed “un-vaccinated”.
Here we go again. 2nd chance draw.
31st Jan Hospital's Double Dipping
tbb spoke how he's now had 3 chats...(MBS Costings rise per GP > Clinic > Hospital Doc')
GP $80 + Specialist $150 + Outpatient Doctor $200 + $200 = $630 for 3 x Vax + 1 mental chat.
RACGP : "Growing trend of Hospitals seeking to claim MBS items...
I've seen the phrases of Double Dipping used around it, and I think it is!"
https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/professional/gps-set-to-double-down-on-...
Dob in a Doc' Frontline Hotline
https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/health-p...
tbb said...Hospitals are Hot Linking existing GP outpatient services to score premium MBS prize packs.
The idea! (Not said here!) Is to name the practice to legitimise the "Covid Emergency MBS Payment"
Hospital Specialists milk the "Chat" as a $200 1st Course then the Emergency Hot link ...$400 Bingo!
Sorry we ran outta time to discuss the CPAP exploding yer gutz! "Just mention my name at CPAP $hop!"
Hospital Doc' - Let's have a Vax Chat MBS $$$ > You sound upset [ Who's yer Your Psych' ] MBS $$$
Covid @ Home > over 1m patients (GP x 5 + Specialist x 3 + Hospital x 7 + Consult $50 x 7)= $3,000
Note some Hospitals originally demanded 14 days $200 + $50 / day Hot link.
Looks like Hospitals are racing to get their fill before the New Guy shuts the lid on the Cookie Jar!
[ Telehealth ] was owned by Mining Magnates + Silicone Valley + ChYnnA + Big Pharma raiders
Nothing to do with Medicare or Oz Health...each time it's abused we lose money and our privacy !
Enter the New Guy!
2021 Bayju Thakar / UK + Singapore + India? firm is slowly acquiring Oz Telehealth
Should run better as this bloke has 10 year background in same Telehealth Home Care model.
Can search for > [ Doctor care Anywhere ] [ Synergix Health ] > Oz [ AXA ] [ Allianz ]
https://doctorcareanywhere.com/media/2671/doctorcare-anywhere-ipo-prospe...
Pretty sure Bayju is aiming to be the Boss of Medicare...that's why tbb is also Double Dipping!
Possibly this bloke can cut costs to minimise the $billion bucket loads going to the slime balls.
[ Doctor Care Anywhere ] is lighting up Oz internet this week...both here & Singapore
https://www.fool.com.au/2022/01/15/2-asx-tech-shares-that-are-rapidly-gr...
Sure does look like Dr Thakar is our new Medicare Boss...seems a little more Healthy than the Ratpack.
I’m sorry, I’ve been wrong all along.
Big pharma just want to help you
https://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/pharma-giants-to-pay-590-mn-to-us-...
Especially Pfizer
https://amp.theguardian.com/business/2009/sep/02/pfizer-drugs-us-crimina...
Spellcheck there burliegh.its Pfizzer.
Watch out or you will be labelled as an anti-synthetic poppy pill popping muppet!who wears a tin foil hat and chases wabbits down holes.
Duhhh dem pills is a good!me doctor told me so.just wait until u try the needles!
There not even bothering with waiting to see if it’s effective , they are just convinced it’s safe so let’s start jabbing.
No real downside... This is *not* science.
— Venk Murthy MD PhD (@venkmurthy) February 2, 2022
One could make the same claim about short courses of HCQ or IVM. https://t.co/XnzIucgACV
Supafreak wrote:There not even bothering with waiting to see if it’s effective , they are just convinced it’s safe so let’s start jabbing. https://twitter.com/venkmurthy/status/1488683004352413696?s=21
It’s a sickness
CORRESPONDENCE| VOLUME 22, ISSUE 1, P16, JANUARY 01, 2022
Transmissibility of SARS-CoV-2 among fully vaccinated individuals
Carlos Franco-Paredes
Published:January, 2022DOI:https://doi.org/10.1016/S1473-3099(21)00768-4
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Vaccine effectiveness studies have conclusively demonstrated the benefit of COVID-19 vaccines in reducing individual symptomatic and severe disease, resulting in reduced hospitalisations and intensive care unit admissions.1 However, the impact of vaccination on transmissibility of SARS-CoV-2 needs to be elucidated. A prospective cohort study in the UK by Anika Singanayagam and colleagues2 regarding community transmission of SARS-CoV-2 among unvaccinated and vaccinated individuals provides important information that needs to be considered in reassessing vaccination policies. This study showed that the impact of vaccination on community transmission of circulating variants of SARS-CoV-2 appeared to be not significantly different from the impact among unvaccinated people.2, 3 The scientific rationale for mandatory vaccination in the USA relies on the premise that vaccination prevents transmission to others, resulting in a “pandemic of the unvaccinated”.4 Yet, the demonstration of COVID-19 breakthrough infections among fully vaccinated health-care workers (HCW) in Israel, who in turn may transmit this infection to their patients,5 requires a reassessment of compulsory vaccination policies leading to the job dismissal of unvaccinated HCW in the USA. Indeed, there is growing evidence that peak viral titres in the upper airways of the lungs and culturable virus are similar in vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals.2,3,5–7 A recent investigation by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention of an outbreak of COVID-19 in a prison in Texas showed the equal presence of infectious virus in the nasopharynx of vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals.6 Similarly, researchers in California observed no major differences between vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals in terms of SARS-CoV-2 viral loads in the nasopharynx, even in those with proven asymptomatic infection.7 Thus, the current evidence suggests that current mandatory vaccination policies might need to be reconsidered, and that vaccination status should not replace mitigation practices such as mask wearing, physical distancing, and contact-tracing investigations, even within highly vaccinated populations. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00768-4/fulltext.
Lancet article noting that Covid vaccines are not reducing transmission, so vaccine mandates have no basis.https://t.co/gX0eLYf3fq
— David Bell (@bell00david) February 1, 2022
Not that science super. Just the health advise you can’t ever see.
That science won’t let the government jab everyone with the millions upon millions of vaccines they have purchased
Far out.
It's not hard, right?
The vaccines are very effective at reducing hospitalisation and death.
So the more people who take them, the better.
Now we can mandate, or not mandate, or whatever. But take a look at where we're at. High vaccination rates, fully open and very low deaths and hospitalisation. The mandates worked.
Of course over in the hell hole that is the US of A people are loosing their shit about mandates. Culturally they have no concept of the idea of 'making a small sacrifice for the greater good'.so stop sharing articles and studies from over there, they're fucking cooked.
In Aus, 90% of the population don't give a shit and rightly so. Of that 90%, 38% have already had their booster. The remaining 52% just need the boot up the arse to go out and get it, which they'll do happily, that's what the mandates will do.
Maybe another 2 or 3 % of the population will kick up a fuss, but will eventually fold.
We'll then maintain a high level of vaccinations, reduce needless deaths and cost of hospitalisation, and move the fuck on with our lives.
This won't happen forever either, only the flat earthers and chemtrail specialists are banging on about 3 month boosters till eternity. Those fuckwits were the same people saying we'd never be able to leave Australia, or leave lockdowns. And haven't they gone quiet about that?
Stok wrote:Far out.
It's not hard, right?
The vaccines are very effective at reducing hospitalisation and death.
So the more people who take them, the better.
Now we can mandate, or not mandate, or whatever. But take a look at where we're at. High vaccination rates, fully open and very low deaths and hospitalisation. The mandates worked.
Of course over in the hell hole that is the US of A people are loosing their shit about mandates. Culturally they have no concept of the idea of 'making a small sacrifice for the greater good'.so stop sharing articles and studies from over there, they're fucking cooked.
In Aus, 90% of the population don't give a shit and rightly so. Of that 90%, 38% have already had their booster. The remaining 52% just need the boot up the arse to go out and get it, which they'll do happily, that's what the mandates will do.
Maybe another 2 or 3 % of the population will kick up a fuss, but will eventually fold.
We'll then maintain a high level of vaccinations, reduce needless deaths and cost of hospitalisation, and move the fuck on with our lives.
This won't happen forever either, only the flat earthers and chemtrail specialists are banging on about 3 month boosters till eternity. Those fuckwits were the same people saying we'd never be able to leave Australia, or leave lockdowns. And haven't they gone quiet about that?
Lol
Thought you'd enjoy that one burl-sack.
How are things in Canberra going? Convoy still kicking on? Making some real positive progress I bet.
The term 'fully vaccinated' could be soon be replaced with 'up to date on vaccinations', as the government's vaccine advisory body weighs up other changes to the COVID-19 vaccine program. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-02/atagi-considering-fully-vaccinate...
And now Finland to end all COVID-19 restrictions (see also here).
(Couldn't pass up a pic opportunity of the hottest prime minister of all time...)
gsco wrote:And now Finland to end all COVID-19 restrictions (see also here).
(Couldn't pass up a pic opportunity of the hottest prime minister of all time...)
Holy Moly GSCO, how right you are! Best post on this thread ;-)
https://m.
This one’s for you Dr Dick.
I just wanted to share @KellySlater’s beautiful tube ride at Billabong Pro Pipeline. At 50 years of age, he’s a great role model for a healthy lifestyle, respect for the ocean, and determination. Aloha! pic.twitter.com/8QWpIDQhkm
— Tulsi Gabbard 🌺 (@TulsiGabbard) February 2, 2022
Can't believe you weren't onto her BD. She even goes clubbing after being exposed to covid and just bullshits her way out of it.
Supafreak wrote:The term 'fully vaccinated' could be soon be replaced with 'up to date on vaccinations', as the government's vaccine advisory body weighs up other changes to the COVID-19 vaccine program. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-02/atagi-considering-fully-vaccinate...
So what?
gsco wrote:And now Finland to end all COVID-19 restrictions (see also here).
(Couldn't pass up a pic opportunity of the hottest prime minister of all time...)
I see you didn't get past the headline....and the image.....
"The government said that vaccines had proved their worth by preventing mass hospitalisations as the Omicron variant spread through Finland, meaning the country was in a good position to finally lift all restrictions."
Stok wrote:gsco wrote:And now Finland to end all COVID-19 restrictions (see also here).
(Couldn't pass up a pic opportunity of the hottest prime minister of all time...)
I see you didn't get past the headline....and the image.....
"The government said that vaccines had proved their worth by preventing mass hospitalisations as the Omicron variant spread through Finland, meaning the country was in a good position to finally lift all restrictions."
74.8% fully vaccinated which is behind Australia.
Yet just earlier you said some bullshit about people needing a kick up the ass to get their third dose.
Which science do you believe Cok?
P.S I would give that PM a jab
Good job Burlsack, thanks for looking that up for me. I don't believe science mate, that's not how it works, it's not a belief system. Seems however you float between beliefs such as 'the vaccine works but we don't need mandates', to 'the vaccine does nothing', to 'covid is a con' and finally to 'all of modern medicine is useless if you eat well'.
So, a PM from Finland says because of the vaccines they're in a good position to reopen. But, she also goes clubbing and lies about it while covid positive? Sounds cool. Let's listen to her.
Well guess what, Australia opened up months ago (well, the important states did), and we have a higher vax rate so we're in a better position than Finland.
Also - pretty well known the vaccine loses effectiveness after 3-6 months. Interested to know what they're strategy is there. Maybe they've prepped their healthcare system and have decided to accept more deaths and hospitalisations? Or maybe they've just caved to selfish whingers?
Either way, good on them. now they can serve alcohol at restaurants until 8pm!
Stok wrote:Good job Burlsack, thanks for looking that up for me. I don't believe science mate, that's not how it works, it's not a belief system. Seems however you float between beliefs such as 'the vaccine works but we don't need mandates', to 'the vaccine does nothing', to 'covid is a con' and finally to 'all of modern medicine is useless if you eat well'.
So, a PM from Finland says because of the vaccines they're in a good position to reopen. But, she also goes clubbing and lies about it while covid positive? Sounds cool. Let's listen to her.
Well guess what, Australia opened up months ago (well, the important states did), and we have a higher vax rate so we're in a better position than Finland.
Also - pretty well known the vaccine loses effectiveness after 3-6 months. Interested to know what they're strategy is there. Maybe they've prepped their healthcare system and have decided to accept more deaths and hospitalisations? Or maybe they've just caved to selfish whingers?
Either way, good on them. now they can serve alcohol at restaurants until 8pm!
Remember stok when thinking about the “important states” it’s Western Australia that keeps the money coming in mate. Think who has been at work this hole time, NSW, Vic, Tass and SA would be fucked without WA’s GST and mining royalties.
That point and pretty much your whole post was just dribble………wipe your chin mate.
I know tongue in cheek doesn't work that well in written form, but surely you guessed that was a poor little jab (hah!) at our WA mates.
I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..
There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia