Ghost Riders 'the future of big wave surfing'

udo wrote:

Barrister for sure Roy- Fucking loved your correspondence with McCoys lawyer.

Haha thanks yeah the word at law school was that i would make a top defence lawyer, but I didn't like the company of lawyers so left and built dream house in raglan went on the dole went surfing instead.

So you keen to throw a few dollars my way Roy ?

I'll send you some photos cause I'm doing it for your viewing pleasure.

If anyone out there is considering adding to Roy's self gratification slush fund , then you should immediately - 1 : Give yourself an uppercut.

2 : Go buy a lotto ticket with the $10 you would have donated and give yourself a chance at fulfilling your own surfing dreams as opposed to some one else's ego massage program.

If you think I'm being harsh Roy, then apologies mate, but you were surely expecting it when you put your hand out .

Got a little nubster future mould of Roy;);)..... awhile back to chuck in my really wide 5'10" quad ,wide tailed board....? now its like a truster, so much direction , Fucken unreal.... ;).... And so fast, faster.
Yeeeewwwwwww
Dynamic for sure way better, than any fin I've used for this set up.

Roy Stuart wrote:

Blowin wrote:

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It's called promotion in pursuit of the dollar Rabbits.

And why not I say ?

Nah that's not what it's about.

Money's just necessary to get things done, if it was just about money I'd have been a barrister or a builder these past 20 years.

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With all due respect Roy, promotion aside, have you not currently got enough money to get this project done?? Cheers

Blowin wrote:

So you keen to throw a few dollars my way Roy ?

I'll send you some photos cause I'm doing it for your viewing pleasure.

Left or right...?

Goofey or nat....ur..........ALL....?

No-one on here can figure that one out haha......

udo wrote:

Gots any pics of your truster set up Welly.

Secret NZ stuff Udo sorry;)

Blowin wrote:

So you keen to throw a few dollars my way Roy ?

I'll send you some photos cause I'm doing it for your viewing pleasure.

If anyone out there is considering adding to Roy's self gratification slush fund , then you should immediately - 1 : Give yourself an uppercut.

2 : Go buy a lotto ticket with the $10 you would have donated and give yourself a chance at fulfilling your own surfing dreams as opposed to some one else's ego massage program.

If you think I'm being harsh Roy, then apologies mate, but you were surely expecting it when you put your hand out .

It's ok to dislike and/or misunderstand the idea.

wellymon wrote:

Got a little nubster future mould of Roy;);)..... awhile back to chuck in my really wide 5'10" quad ,wide tailed board....? now its like a truster, so much direction , Fucken unreal.... ;).... And so fast, faster.
Yeeeewwwwwww
Dynamic for sure way better, than any fin I've used for this set up.

Stoked!

'I'm lost with all this, it's insider stuff obviously.'

Yeh, I've known camel for a long time, since his first surf here, when he paddled out with a couple of WA sponno groms in tow. When he kept coming back for more. As for soufl'e, completely different story... never met or heard of him. He's virtually never surfed here. Ala the list, but he's got all the connected, groovy, important inside stuff happening here (benny and goofball will vouch for that), that he needs to protect from local baddies. All the real secret, secret stuff, that he pioneered... and all without virtually ever surfing here too! Wiva boat too. Amasing really. That list, I thought I'd heard everything in the carpark over the years. But, never 'nah, not fur me aye, I'll charge too faarkin ard I wiwll!!! Ludicrous.

'one wave /town is not the entire coast .'

Duh, gee really. Wow, thanks for that secret inside knowledge. Lucky you know all the spots eh! On your drive through. Idiot. Ludicrous. Give up, you know fuck all about here. I had the money, means and time to surf when and where I liked. You virtually never surfed here. You dodged it. Others love it. You the main man in Vic now too? Yeh really?

Your an idiot uppity .
Where do you surf now that fishoes , has become the
Latest " shark hotspot " , does Boston's really count as your local ?!
I never said I was some Vicco legend . Quite the contrary , my best surfing
Was always done away .
You must have felt really self important when you ran that caravan park .
With all the soft travellers shacking up in your park to take on
the " desert coast " .
One thing is for sure Mick , I've never let my lack of skill get in the
way of my ambition . Tending to bight off more than I can chew .
From what I hear , all that time you were there you never really pushed
" your comfort zone " . ! So all that fitness , all that deluxe muscle , doesn't get you
Anywhere with a pea heart and feeble mind game .

Hey chaps,

If you have an interest in this project or anything reasonably related to it then let's hear it.

southey wrote:

Your an idiot uppity .
Where do you surf now that fishoes , has become the
Latest " shark hotspot " , does Boston's really count as your local ?!
I never said I was some Vicco legend . Quite the contrary , my best surfing
Was always done away .
You must have felt really self important when you ran that caravan park .
With all the soft travellers shacking up in your park to take on
the " desert coast " .
One thing is for sure Mick , I've never let my lack of skill get in the
way of my ambition . Tending to bight off more than I can chew .
From what I hear , all that time you were there you never really pushed
" your comfort zone " . ! So all that fitness , all that deluxe muscle , doesn't get you
Anywhere with a pea heart and feeble mind game .

Thats what you gotta love about blax, the stories it wrings out of them. All your ludicrous bullshit, the too hard chargin' swiss cheese dribble, because you shit yourself and dodged blax. But, since you were forged in heaps tougher zones, after you shit yourself at blacks, all them old locals found ya and took ya in, and told ya all them secrets, but ya knew ya had to pioneer onwards!!!

Look its a bird, its a plane its a... its a fucking high chair... with a fucking chicken in it... its swill nut man...!!!

Your so full of ludicrous shit... again. More of your 'insider' kid on the rocks crap. More Qld'er, but not Qld'er tripe.

I am interested Roy, because what I know of camsless, he has always thought outside the square, and done pretty good backing himself doing it. Even that first surf with him over here, the guys with him were sponsored, and he wasn't, yet they were helpless, terrified in the type of surf that he revelled in. That scenario grated on him.

Lopez & Pipeline
Hakman & Sunset
M.P & Kirra
Aikau & Waimea
Upsydaisy & Blax
Synonymous with each other till the end

Goofball (and bennie) & brokeback chicken soufl'e... highchair blax dodger/west coast pioneer/vicco main man

Synonymous with each other till the end.

Hahah just had a lol.

I really missed those few months you were in the sin bin uppy

goofyfoot wrote:

I really missed those few months you were in the sin bin uppy

Self imposed sin bin, I gotta add. No one here blew any whistles.

A few horns got tooted but that's another matter.

Goofy , he went shopping . Okay
There I said it .

hey guys this big swell in the indian .... i want to go & surf it on roys board , my board , mostly want to get there , sponsorship needed . p.s. still at school , dont heckle me too badly .

If ya pay back herro, he reckons he'll chuck...

... some in.

This sponsorship thing camel, you've been trying to whore yourself on here for a few years now, but it's not working is it.

Ever thought of getting a job and pay your own way, have you ever had a job?

Yeah being an employee is so awesome, everyone should do it.

;)

shaun wrote:

This sponsorship thing camel, you've been trying to whore yourself on here for a few years now, but it's not working is it.

Ever thought of getting a job and pay your own way, have you ever had a job?

Hang on Shaun , didn't you say " that for a long time ( perhaps still ) , you " worked for yourself " so to speak ..... ?! Just on a " promotional tour " at the moment are we ?! ;-))

i work for myself , save some money and go for surf trips been doing it all my life southy
.Works for me and get to keep my dignity

shaun wrote:

i work for myself , save some money and go for surf trips been doing it all my life southy
.Works for me and get to keep my dignity

A frigging cartel, get outa here! ;)

Take off on 50 foot wave checklist: dignity intact ... check... have a job... check.... good to go...

As you were.

I like it Roy. Could you possibly devise a similar checklist to get Soufl'e down the face (shit, even the cliff for that matter) at Blax? The one(s) as below that he's using at the moment have all failed dismally.

Brokeback chicken souf'le take off at blax in a highchair (fuck the dignity) checklist: wrong turnoff... check... might charge too hard... check... risk reward calcs not adding up... check... check with goofball and bennie... check... 'the kid' on the rocks, but not on the rocks... check... good not to go... mmmmaaaaayyyyyte!!!!

Mirror , Check ...... Lube check ....
Repeat x 100 .

Now your good to go surf sleaford .

Still dodging it! Thrashed!!! Drilled!!! Without even getting wet!!!

But at least now you jump to command at the mention of your name... brokeback chicken soufl'e... now you answer perfectly to your name! Its a start, those first baby steps! Soon you might venture out of the highchair!!!

Lube??? Lube??? what do you mean?

This:

'I have been privy to info from older guys over the years'

Oh no, you haven't been 'privying' yourself to them older guys again?

What will the yanks think!!!

What will the yanks think go Big"Red"

udo wrote:

Roy, How will you be laminating these boards, Cloth type , resin etc
Caml likes them glassed to last ....weight not being a being to him, will you be glassing them all the same ?

I've done one with 3 layers of 10oz top and bottom and she's a bit too light at only 16 pounds for a ten footer, so I'll go for four layers on the next one. I've also been doing 3d glass which is about four times as strong as 3 layers of ten for the same weight, it's a bitch to use but worth it... will probably have to add a layer or two of ten oz over the 3d glass to get the weight up though.

roy are they so light still because u are using eps foam ? & stringer size / weight ?

The asymmetrical ten footer mentioned above:

caml wrote:

roy are they so light still because u are using eps foam ? & stringer size / weight ?

Yeah the foam's pretty light, 2 pound eps and stringerless. I deduce that most gun makers are getting weight by using heavier foam, but that doesn't make sense from a strength to weight point of view, stringers don't either.

EPS is the only sensible option as the shapes can't be easily achieved using moulded blanks as they are essentially pre shaped, limiting the possibilites. We get the rocker and profile cut to the exact curve we need, a 'no tolerance' blank as far as deck and bottom go.

So, the order of the day is to dial up more glass.

I've noticed that with heavy glassing and a light core the boards get a resonance which is similar to a hollow wooden board... rather nice for the ride.

Roy
that green asymmetric is for a goofy footer ?

Yes, although not to the point where it won't go well for a natural.

I have an even more etreme asym in the works too.

roy one of the features of all the boards i use & somthing i have worked on for years is the safety nose and tail . i know you promote the round nose , but the tail is pretty pointed. im always getting round tails too .wont use swallows or pins that are sharp . it gives me confidence and is safer for me and anyone else it might hit ( not part of the plan ) but can you explain the need for that tail ?

What sort of fin setup are you going to use on those things also?

The tail wards off all those pricks that keep taking off deeper.

caml wrote:

roy one of the features of all the boards i use & somthing i have worked on for years is the safety nose and tail . i know you promote the round nose , but the tail is pretty pointed. im always getting round tails too .wont use swallows or pins that are sharp . it gives me confidence and is safer for me and anyone else it might hit ( not part of the plan ) but can you explain the need for that tail ?

Hi Jeff,

Here's a look at a typical tail: it's probably blunter or about the same as your safety noses I imagine, certainly not sharp as it has a substantial 'flat' surface at the end.

They look ultra sharp when being shaped as the curves converge at the tail but part of it gets taken off to make a blunt surface

Regarding the tail design, it's vital to the design, can you watch youtube on your device? I can send a video explanation.

carpetman wrote:

What sort of fin setup are you going to use on those things also?

1) Single fin: The boards have boxes so anything goes but we are doing Spitfires a lot, with or without bumpy leading edges.

2) asymmetrical singles: Video explanation coming up shortly ( tonight)

3) In line singles: video explanation coming up tonight.

4) Single plus tunnel: Not for these Ghost boards as we use a different rocker for the tunnel equipped boards with a flatter tail. They'll come a bit later.

This was great as well;)

Roy please send or post here the video link with you tube. Roys keen to get us on his boards down on the south coast . Heath & i will put it to the test .

Hi Caml what video are you after?

Roy Stuart wrote:

caml wrote:

roy one of the features of all the boards i use & somthing i have worked on for years is the safety nose and tail . i know you promote the round nose , but the tail is pretty pointed. im always getting round tails too .wont use swallows or pins that are sharp . it gives me confidence and is safer for me and anyone else it might hit ( not part of the plan ) but can you explain the need for that tail ?

Hi Jeff,

Here's a look at a typical tail: it's probably blunter or about the same as your safety noses I imagine, certainly not sharp as it has a substantial 'flat' surface at the end.

They look ultra sharp when being shaped as the curves converge at the tail but part of it gets taken off to make a blunt surface

Regarding the tail design, it's vital to the design, can you watch youtube on your device? I can send a video explanation.

See above roy . Thanks

Sorry to cuttlefish & boneroni for the offensive language earlier in the thread