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Phase 3 Clinical Trial Confirms SaNOtize’s Breakthrough Treatment is 99% Effective Against COVID-19; Receives Regulatory Approval in India
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220209005422/en/Phase-3-Clinica... Haven’t heard anything in MSM about this, is it too good to be true ?
I've been wondering where Blindboy has been over the last few weeks and yesterday remembered his comments/disappointment about how Swellnet was allowing patently false information about Covid to be published, via contributors, on its website. If that is the reason for his absence I'm hoping he returns at some stage although there would be some who will always prefer conspiracy over substance.
GuySmiley wrote:I've been wondering where Blindboy has been over the last few weeks and yesterday remembered his comments/disappointment about how Swellnet was allowing patently false information about Covid to be published, via contributors, on its website. If that is the reason for his absence I'm hoping he returns at some stage although there would be some who will always prefer conspiracy over substance.
He’s over at the Conversation pushing his usual misinformation and lies. Still playing the part of the corporate MSM parrot.
Remember when he said that the hospitals would be inundated with unvaccinated children? Yeah….we don’t need that bullshit here.
Sicko probably saying that the Canada protesters have weapons of mass destruction hidden inside the swastika undies they all wear. The WMD are all a gift from Putin.
I love this argument about the cooker protests being normal.
No guys, they are not normal and the people who attend are either batshit crazy or tolerate batshit craziness.
Speakers are chosen, not to deliver rational arguments, they are chosen to whip up the crowd.
Now I've been to a few protests in my time and if anyone got up on stage and spouted the absolute nonsense these cookers were saying, they'd be booed and kept away from the PA forever.
That of course doesn't happen at these cooker rallies. You've got absolute muppets banging on about setting up independent nations, talking absolute gibberish about the constitution, saying people have been using blow darts to vaccinate the crowd, alien invasions etc etc etc. Can anyone find any footage of the crowd booing these nutters. I can find plenty of footage of the mob cheering the on.
Last month the cookers set fire to old Parliament House twice. Think about that. What sort of person sees that shit and says, I'm going to Canberra to join that mob.
Yes there may have been a few sane people there, but I'm yet to see any of them stand up and tell any of the loonies to STFU.
The cookers have no clear rational arguments, they just have a circus, carnival barkers, and a bunch of grifters making serious cash off the insanity.
VIC Local - Why do you want vaccine mandates and vaccine passports to be still enforced ?
Robo wrote:Let the MSM say whatever lie they want to say but a picture is worth a thousand words.
Here are some of the photos of peaceful and amazing people around Australia marching in solidarity for the mandates to endhttps://www.facebook.com/Convoy-to-Canberra-103893498888253/photos/pcb.1...
Geez they love a good dress up, don't they?
@Guy
"Swellnet was allowing patently false information about Covid to be published"
Can Swellnet realistically police this? How far do you chase the minutiae?
And do you really want to change a casual chat on here into a surf version of The Conversation, full of overly correct passive-aggressiveness?
Sounds shit to me.
I mean, who is really influenced by the flat-earth trolls on this site?
@AndyM, just relating what BB had said but I have no idea why he hasn't contributed lately. He may have just slipped away somewhere nice.
@CBG, Neil Young you say ..... one of my favourite songs and albums~lyrics are good here
Blowin wrote:VIC Local - Why do you want vaccine mandates and vaccine passports to be still enforced ?
Blokemate, I'll put forward my opinion.
Firstly, they should be enforced until the various institutions which provide accountable advice to our elected politicians say so. They shouldn't just be canned over night because the cooked units are getting a little edgy, because they've been following what's going on in other parts of the world and listen religiously to Tucker Carlson.
Secondly, what we've experienced in the last year or so on a number of issues has been a continued attack on the truth, and science. Regardless of what you're opinion is, or how well you think you're interpreting some of the data/info you can dig up - covid was serious, and still is a considerable threat to our way of life. Much more appropriately trained and experienced individuals than you, or any of your favourite online journo's/commentators, have made this call. our leaders cannot, and must not, simply fold over on scientific facts just because the opposing voice is small but loud.
Stok wrote:Blowin wrote:VIC Local - Why do you want vaccine mandates and vaccine passports to be still enforced ?
Blokemate, I'll put forward my opinion.
Firstly, they should be enforced until the various institutions which provide accountable advice to our elected politicians say so. They shouldn't just be canned over night because the cooked units are getting a little edgy, because they've been following what's going on in other parts of the world and listen religiously to Tucker Carlson.
Secondly, what we've experienced in the last year or so on a number of issues has been a continued attack on the truth, and science. Regardless of what you're opinion is, or how well you think you're interpreting some of the data/info you can dig up - covid was serious, and still is a considerable threat to our way of life. Much more appropriately trained and experienced individuals than you, or any of your favourite online journo's/commentators, have made this call. our leaders cannot, and must not, simply fold over on scientific facts just because the opposing voice is small but loud.
Wake up your vax doesn't work lol, time to take the blind fold off
I know someone who works in a chemist that hasn't been jabbed, been waiting for novavax on her bosses advice, a anti mrna covid vax chemist.
Blowin wrote:VIC Local - Why do you want vaccine mandates and vaccine passports to be still enforced ?
Because there's plenty of experts saying the next wave could be much more dangerous than omicron and new vaccines are being created that can help stop or slow transmission.
Any other stupid questions blowin?
Stok wrote:Blowin wrote:VIC Local - Why do you want vaccine mandates and vaccine passports to be still enforced ?
Blokemate, I'll put forward my opinion.
Firstly, they should be enforced until the various institutions which provide accountable advice to our elected politicians say so. They shouldn't just be canned over night because the cooked units are getting a little edgy, because they've been following what's going on in other parts of the world and listen religiously to Tucker Carlson.
Secondly, what we've experienced in the last year or so on a number of issues has been a continued attack on the truth, and science. Regardless of what you're opinion is, or how well you think you're interpreting some of the data/info you can dig up - covid was serious, and still is a considerable threat to our way of life. Much more appropriately trained and experienced individuals than you, or any of your favourite online journo's/commentators, have made this call. our leaders cannot, and must not, simply fold over on scientific facts just because the opposing voice is small but loud.
But the vaccine mandates and passports are political in origin. They have not ever had evidence based science used as a justification. Show me the scientists Le medical experts who have made the official call to our politicians that vaccine mandates and passports are necessary.
Can you tell the difference between politics and science ? Because this is not science.
Now that you are aware that the mandates and passports are purely political and have no scientific backing and are not imposed under any medics advice , can you tell me why you still support the imposition of vaccine mandates and passports?
"What about just monitor and act responsibly"
Can't imagine staff on this site having the time to trawl through stats and make "definitive" decisions with an intention to delete posts or whatever.
Storm in a teacup?
This is what total freedom looks like.
Stok wrote:Blowin wrote:VIC Local - Why do you want vaccine mandates and vaccine passports to be still enforced ?
Blokemate, I'll put forward my opinion.
Firstly, they should be enforced until the various institutions which provide accountable advice to our elected politicians say so. They shouldn't just be canned over night because the cooked units are getting a little edgy, because they've been following what's going on in other parts of the world and listen religiously to Tucker Carlson.
Secondly, what we've experienced in the last year or so on a number of issues has been a continued attack on the truth, and science. Regardless of what you're opinion is, or how well you think you're interpreting some of the data/info you can dig up - covid was serious, and still is a considerable threat to our way of life. Much more appropriately trained and experienced individuals than you, or any of your favourite online journo's/commentators, have made this call. our leaders cannot, and must not, simply fold over on scientific facts just because the opposing voice is small but loud.
Have deaths increased from 2020? What about in aged care? Surely there has been an increase cok.
So the European governments that have dropped the mandates and restrictions have bad health advice and the countries that have enforced mandates and restrictions have good health advice . Some will not be happy until every man woman and child is vaccinated and getting regular boosters, then they will complain about who’s pets aren’t vaccinated.
Vic Local wrote:Blowin wrote:VIC Local - Why do you want vaccine mandates and vaccine passports to be still enforced ?
Because there's plenty of experts saying the next wave could be much more dangerous than omicron and new vaccines are being created that can help stop or slow transmission.
Any other stupid questions blowin?
The vaccine mandates only cover the current vaccines which have no proven ability to protect future strains. There is no legal, medical or scientific justification for mandating vaccines which will probably not protect against a covid strain which does not yet exist and may never exist.
Regardless, there has been no scientific or medical advice given to support the vaccine mandates / passports to protect against future strains as you claim. This is misinformation. In other words….you made it up.
The vaccines do not help slow or stop transmission of covid. That was proven to be a lie a long time ago.
You have not showed a rational reason for your personal support of continuing vaccine mandates or passports.
Do you think that your opposition to the lifting of the vaccine mandates and passports, which are imposed purely on political imperative and with no scientific/ medical backing, may be because you enjoy the tribalism of politics and because you ( not so secretly) enjoy having a social out group who you feel entitled to attack ?
I think this may be closer to the truth.
If you can show the scientific and medical evidence which supports the current mandates/ passports it would be appreciated.
Until then we can all just agree that hating on innocent Australians because Dan Andrews said it was socially OK to do so is more in line with your irrational bitterness.
“Anti-vax Dogs” is not something uttered by a rational or balanced person.
Vic Local wrote:Blowin wrote:VIC Local - Why do you want vaccine mandates and vaccine passports to be still enforced ?
Because there's plenty of experts saying the next wave could be much more dangerous than omicron and new vaccines are being created that can help stop or slow transmission.
Any other stupid questions blowin?
lol. fucking hell dickvocal. You are beyond cooked.
burleigh wrote:Vic Local wrote:Blowin wrote:VIC Local - Why do you want vaccine mandates and vaccine passports to be still enforced ?
Because there's plenty of experts saying the next wave could be much more dangerous than omicron and new vaccines are being created that can help stop or slow transmission.
Any other stupid questions blowin?lol. fucking hell dickvocal. You are beyond cooked.
His aggression is an attempt to wallpaper over the huge gaps in his thinking.
Blowin wrote:But the vaccine mandates and passports are political in origin. They have not ever had evidence based science used as a justification. Show me the scientists Le medical experts who have made the official call to our politicians that vaccine mandates and passports are necessary.
Can you tell the difference between politics and science ? Because this is not science.
Now that you are aware that the mandates and passports are purely political and have no scientific backing and are not imposed under any medics advice , can you tell me why you still support the imposition of vaccine mandates and passports?
I didn't say it was based on medical science. It's based on public policy and an understanding of social issues and how to deal them. There are experts who work in this field, defining these strategies.
You're seeing it as a political issue because, as mentioned, you listen to Tucker Carlson.
The bulk of the ones arguing against vaccination mandates now, are the ones who DO have a political agenda.
Constance B Gibson wrote:"Can Swellnet realistically police this?"
Police? What about just monitor and act responsibly. Yeah, nah. Too hard.
Easy and lazy (and classic) SN solution? Put it in the SwillNut basement. True believers can vent themselves to their heart's content outta public harm's way. No front page gratification/amplification and then no need for the likes of BB, VL, RK, Stok et al to fight the good fight, I wager.
It's happened before with that other disgracefully named COVID thread.
Actually, if even that's too hard, why not just a thread name change at least. They have the power. They've done it before.
It could be renamed something that actually reflects its true purpose. I dunno, 'conduit for your anxieties' perhaps?
Yes!
But what can be done!?
Many on here were giving me shit for saying this thread should be shut down.
I still stand by it. It provides no value, actually, it de-values Swellnet.
Robo wrote:I know someone who works in a chemist that hasn't been jabbed, been waiting for novavax on her bosses advice, a anti mrna covid vax chemist.
I know someone I like to call Floggo, who apparently posts heaps of anecdotal evidence around vaccine hesitancy online on an anonymous forum . Alright bloke but seems like a bit of a cooker.
Constance B Gibson wrote:"Can Swellnet realistically police this?"
Police? What about just monitor and act responsibly. Yeah, nah. Too hard.
Easy and lazy (and classic) SN solution? Put it in the SwillNut basement. True believers can vent themselves to their heart's content outta public harm's way. No front page gratification/amplification and then no need for the likes of BB, VL, RK, Stok et al to fight the good fight, I wager.
It's happened before with that other disgracefully named COVID thread.
Actually, if even that's too hard, why not just a thread name change at least. They have the power. They've done it before.
It could be renamed something that actually reflects its true purpose. I dunno, 'conduit for your anxieties' perhaps?
Careful CBG, you’ll get accused of being woke or cancel culture WTF that means anyways
what about this Virologist that didnt want a MRNA vaccine. Last months enemy of the state, this months pin up.
Do you listen to this expert cok?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-11/virologist-angela-luttick-is-the-...
Stok wrote:Blowin wrote:But the vaccine mandates and passports are political in origin. They have not ever had evidence based science used as a justification. Show me the scientists Le medical experts who have made the official call to our politicians that vaccine mandates and passports are necessary.
Can you tell the difference between politics and science ? Because this is not science.
Now that you are aware that the mandates and passports are purely political and have no scientific backing and are not imposed under any medics advice , can you tell me why you still support the imposition of vaccine mandates and passports?
I didn't say it was based on medical science. It's based on public policy and an understanding of social issues and how to deal them. There are experts who work in this field, defining these strategies.
You're seeing it as a political issue because, as mentioned, you listen to Tucker Carlson.
The bulk of the ones arguing against vaccination mandates now, are the ones who DO have a political agenda.
Considering that the Australians who remain unvaccinated are no threat to their fellow Australians, nor to the public health system, can you please explain why a public policy to persecute and punitively punish these people is justified?
As you agree, there is no scientific or medical justification for this targeted persecution of Australians and the only reason to do so is political. Does this mean you consent to the persecution of anyone who disagrees with arbitrary political decisions of our political class ?
Do you realise that this belief is contradictory to the good faith embodiment of democratic ideals?
Do you realise that the persecution of political dissidents, which is what you’re referring to when you euphemistically describe “ public policy experts who understand “social issues” and how to deal with them” is not in accordance to any concept of democracy at all?
I’d like further clarification of exactly what you even mean by the “social issues “ these punitive policies are meant to contain. As you said yourself, they are not medical issues, nor scientific issues. Exactly what social issues do you think justify the aborting of adherence to democratic principles?
burleigh wrote:what about this Virologist that didnt want a MRNA vaccine. Last months enemy of the state, this months pin up.
Do you listen to this expert cok?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-11/virologist-angela-luttick-is-the-...
Pro choice, what a strange concept
Supafreak wrote:burleigh wrote:what about this Virologist that didnt want a MRNA vaccine. Last months enemy of the state, this months pin up.
Do you listen to this expert cok?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-11/virologist-angela-luttick-is-the-...
Pro choice, what a strange concept
I watched this episode last night.
AndyM wrote:@Guy
"Swellnet was allowing patently false information about Covid to be published"Can Swellnet realistically police this? How far do you chase the minutiae?
And do you really want to change a casual chat on here into a surf version of The Conversation, full of overly correct passive-aggressiveness?Sounds shit to me.
I mean, who is really influenced by the flat-earth trolls on this site?
agreed.
Stok wrote:Constance B Gibson wrote:"Can Swellnet realistically police this?"
Police? What about just monitor and act responsibly. Yeah, nah. Too hard.
Easy and lazy (and classic) SN solution? Put it in the SwillNut basement. True believers can vent themselves to their heart's content outta public harm's way. No front page gratification/amplification and then no need for the likes of BB, VL, RK, Stok et al to fight the good fight, I wager.
It's happened before with that other disgracefully named COVID thread.
Actually, if even that's too hard, why not just a thread name change at least. They have the power. They've done it before.
It could be renamed something that actually reflects its true purpose. I dunno, 'conduit for your anxieties' perhaps?
Yes!
But what can be done!?
Many on here were giving me shit for saying this thread should be shut down.
I still stand by it. It provides no value, actually, it de-values Swellnet.
A couple of things:
The forums see a fraction of the traffic that the rest of the Swellnet site does. I won't go into numbers but most users wouldn't even know it exists, leave alone visit the forums.
This thread has seen a steady drop in unique visitors over the past year, so considering the traffic flow was already marginal, and is now seeing significantly less people, whatever number of people you estimate are visiting the thread is almost certainly overstated.
If you still think that's a worry, and that it will unduly influence people then, I'd suggest opening your eyes to the world around you. Start with social media.
Since it began two years ago, COVID has been a fluid situation, policy was created on the run - mainly focused on prevention - without knowing what the effects of this unique virus were, nor the social ramifications. There was no dress rehearsal.
So without the usual testing and modelling that happens out of sight in academic or govt labs, and which creates scientific consensus (or what poses as it), we were left with a thousand differing opinions on how to manage it.
Safe to say it hasn't been humanity's finest hour.
There once existed some fine commenting on this thread, though it largely ceased a few months ago, but for me at least it helped fill in some of the blanks in the media picture.
For that alone I'm reluctant to close the thread.
"Exactly what social issues do you think justify the aborting of adherence to democratic principles?"
maybe the dissent?
the heterodox-y?
and that nasty open mindefness?
because they are now 'right wing' issues...
"This is exhibit A in a phenomenon that’s become ubiquitous in mainstream press, where “right-wing” has become a stand-in for “heterodox” or “dissenting” or even just “open-minded.” Brand’s show, which now has 4.9 million subscribers (it was 4.8 million when we spoke), has been the repeated subject of crude smear jobs describing him as an alt-right Pied Piper, with the most shameless example being a Daily Beast piece from October called, “Comedian Russell Brand Has Become a Powerful Voice for Conservatives and Anti-Vaxxers.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/taibbi-interviews-russell-brand-who-...
which is all kinda strange in this topsy turvy world...
dissent...
https://www.dissentmagazine.org/
but if that's how the language police want it... then an open minded dissenter may need to start voting right wing...
weird I know
acab
so cunnie, enough with the snide and side issues...
do you support vaccine mandates?
simple question, simple answer
most interesting, especially you being in WA and all...
(try and wrangle yourself away from the party line)
Norman Swan just on ABC saying boosters offer a increased protection and help slow transmission for a limited amount of time and that mandates were now not really necessary. Then did bit of a promo for his latest podcast, might tune in for this one .
It’s worth acknowledging the capitulation of vast swathes of people who’d formerly considered themselves aware of the establishment’s propensity to use fear to usher in changes to society and gather political power.
There’s a lot of boomers who avoided the political ploy to frame such outrageous situations as the war in Vietnam and the wars in the Middle East as rooted in protection of public safety.
Yet now that the political ploy is framed as public health, the same formerly aware people have completely dropped any cynicism towards the exact same political actors pushing the same fear campaign from a slightly different perspective.
The threat of covid has been exponentially overblown. This was perhaps excusable in the earliest days of the situation but any credibility has long since been discarded in favour of the theatrical instillation of fear in the public. Fear in the public being necessary to achieve control and unleash unprecedented expansion of political powers.
Covid exists and can be a serious and fatal disease for a tiny minority of the population. The vulnerable minority is very easily defined for the most part. The young and healthy almost never die or suffer serious harm from covid.
Yet the political narrative has always been that we are all vulnerable.
It’s been a fear campaign to rival any political fear campaign of the last 80 years. Reds under the bed = pandemic of the unvaccinated.
I feel that boomers were particularly susceptible to this campaign as they felt targeted. This, along with natural cognitive decline and age induced lack of confidence, made them particularly vulnerable to this political campaign of fear.
Not all older people have fallen for this outlandish scare campaign but enough have to generate the political support which perpetuates this erosion of civil liberties by political actors with malignant intent.
Norman Swan saying mandates not necessary.
Those who support vaccine mandates and passports are anti-science and pro-conformity.
Brownshirts the lot of them.
Seriously blowin, why do you continue to use the term "boomers" to delegitimise those who support vaccines and mandates?
Have you seen the anti-vax mob? It's got to be the oldest group of people protesting in Australia ever. It's boomer central. They aren't singing Billie Eilish songs mate. It's Johnnie Farnham and Daryl Braithwaite.
There's no "school strikes" for the cooker movement. There's no university campus protests champ.
It's just a pack of whinging selfish boomers who want to do whatever they want whenever they want. That's why you fit in so well with the boomer mob old boy.
Constance B Gibson wrote:"It provides no value, actually, it de-values Swellnet."
Yep, Stok. Then again, none of my business...literally!
Cultural capital! What a concept!
Let me guess. You're pro mandates, pro vax for all and i'm not 100% sure yet, but a possible bed wetter with Stok & roadkill?
Stok wrote:Robo wrote:I know someone who works in a chemist that hasn't been jabbed, been waiting for novavax on her bosses advice, a anti mrna covid vax chemist.
I know someone I like to call Floggo, who apparently posts heaps of anecdotal evidence around vaccine hesitancy online on an anonymous forum . Alright bloke but seems like a bit of a cooker.
Yep stoko, she is my brother in laws sister
burleigh wrote:Constance B Gibson wrote:"It provides no value, actually, it de-values Swellnet."
Yep, Stok. Then again, none of my business...literally!
Cultural capital! What a concept!
Let me guess. You're pro mandates, pro vax for all and i'm not 100% sure yet, but a possible bed wetter with Stok & roadkill?
If you’re chasing a laugh ask Constance ( Facto) to define why Rogan is right wing.
stunet wrote:The forums see a fraction of the traffic that the rest of the Swellnet site does. I won't go into numbers but most users wouldn't even know it exists, leave alone visit the forums.
This thread has seen a steady drop in unique visitors over the past year, so considering the traffic flow was already marginal, and is now seeing significantly less people, whatever number of people you estimate are visiting the thread is almost certainly overstated.
If you still think that's a worry, and that it will unduly influence people then, I'd suggest opening your eyes to the world around you. Start with social media.
Since it began two years ago, COVID has been a fluid situation, policy was created on the run - mainly focused on prevention - without knowing what the effects of this unique virus were, nor the social ramifications. There was no dress rehearsal.
So without the usual testing and modelling that happens out of sight in academic or govt labs, and which creates scientific consensus (or what poses as it), we were left with a thousand differing opinions on how to manage it.
Safe to say it hasn't been humanity's finest hour.
There once existed some fine commenting on this thread, though it largely ceased a few months ago, but for me at least it helped fill in some of the blanks in the media picture.
For that alone I'm reluctant to close the thread.
So this thread is that painful rash, always hidden behind clothes, which only those most intimate with Swellnet know about!
OK great. Glad to hear it's mostly just the forum's cooked units talking themselves around in circles, with the odd person like me who's wrapped up in it all for little or no reason.
Wholeheartedly agree this isn't humanity's greatest hour - and this event has been our dress rehearsal, which we've monumentally shown how ill prepared and ill equipped we are to deal with such a crisis.
Don't worry, I do the odd rant on social media here and there too.
"Norman Swan saying mandates not necessary."
got a link blowin?
Here you go VIC Local :
Oh wait…that’s not the right link.
Sorry bloke, I accidentally posted the graph you used as justification for continuing the vaccine mandates. Too bad it shows zero medical evidence that the vaccines make a single spot of difference in combating covid.
Better luck next time.
“Anti-van Dogs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” Totally balanced and rational human….not.
Your beloved abc stoko telling fibs again
https://www.facebook.com/abc/posts/10159567565424550?comment_id=10159567...
Stok wrote:stunet wrote:The forums see a fraction of the traffic that the rest of the Swellnet site does. I won't go into numbers but most users wouldn't even know it exists, leave alone visit the forums.
This thread has seen a steady drop in unique visitors over the past year, so considering the traffic flow was already marginal, and is now seeing significantly less people, whatever number of people you estimate are visiting the thread is almost certainly overstated.
If you still think that's a worry, and that it will unduly influence people then, I'd suggest opening your eyes to the world around you. Start with social media.
Since it began two years ago, COVID has been a fluid situation, policy was created on the run - mainly focused on prevention - without knowing what the effects of this unique virus were, nor the social ramifications. There was no dress rehearsal.
So without the usual testing and modelling that happens out of sight in academic or govt labs, and which creates scientific consensus (or what poses as it), we were left with a thousand differing opinions on how to manage it.
Safe to say it hasn't been humanity's finest hour.
There once existed some fine commenting on this thread, though it largely ceased a few months ago, but for me at least it helped fill in some of the blanks in the media picture.
For that alone I'm reluctant to close the thread.
So this thread is that painful rash, always hidden behind clothes, which only those most intimate with Swellnet know about!
OK great. Glad to hear it's mostly just the forum's cooked units talking themselves around in circles, with the odd person like me who's wrapped up in it all for little or no reason.
Wholeheartedly agree this isn't humanity's greatest hour - and this event has been our dress rehearsal, which we've monumentally shown how ill prepared and ill equipped we are to deal with such a crisis.
Don't worry, I do the odd rant on social media here and there too.
haha fucking hell Cok, you're deep in the cooked units. It's a coin toss if its you, toady or Dickvocal for captain cooker.
No no blowin.
I've put up my hand for that mistake and retracted the post as soon as possible
You on the other hand need to show us the link showing that Norman Swan doesn't support vaccine mandates. You made the claim. Time to back it up.
This is about accountability blowin. Where's the link champ?
If a quote sums up Stok, this is it:
Supafreak wrote:Norman Swan just on ABC saying boosters offer a increased protection and help slow transmission for a limited amount of time and that mandates were now not really necessary. Then did bit of a promo for his latest podcast, might tune in for this one .
It was me that posted this originally Dr Dick , you will have to tune into ABC and see if it’s repeated or wait until tomorrow and search for it on iview. I turned into his podcast today hoping he would elaborate on this morning’s comment , but it was a different topic.
Just want to throw a question to the pro mandates crowd , what percentage of the population is needed to be “ up to date “ before mandates and restrictions are lifted , currently Australia is at about 79% of total population .
Supafreak wrote:Supafreak wrote:Norman Swan just on ABC saying boosters offer a increased protection and help slow transmission for a limited amount of time and that mandates were now not really necessary. Then did bit of a promo for his latest podcast, might tune in for this one .
It was me that posted this originally Dr Dick , you will have to tune into ABC and see if it’s repeated or wait until tomorrow and search for it on iview. I turned into his podcast today hoping he would elaborate on this morning’s comment , but it was a different topic.
Hey there super hope all is well
It was listening to this Dr Swan in the early days, back in 2020, that i went hang on a minute, why are we trying to vaccinate everyone with these vaccines that have not been proven, when in his words
the majority of people who contract this will show little to mild symptoms and make a full recovery, he stated this early on, but went on to say that they didnt want to overload the health system, saying if 2 % of the population are infected the hospitals simply cant cope, which i thought was a cope out of the health system.
So all this has been to protect 2 % of the population, Dr Swans owns statement, yet here we are all arguing about whos right or wrong, looking over the stats, it appears that less than 2% of the population has been severely affected, yet the fear warriors want us all jabbed at all costs no matter what the consequence, vaxx injuries, show me the proof,
Crazy times and time will be the judge as to who the clowns in the room really are.
burleigh wrote:If a quote sums up Stok, this is it:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZ3LkSEs5aS/?utm_medium=copy_link
yes burleigh a very good one, i said this ages ago about learning from ones teacher
some learn from their teacher and become far superior, because there knowledge base starts at where the teachers is, and they take it further
then there are the ones who can repeat what they have been taught but cant take it any further, the Parrott, they are just good at repeating what they are told, they never actually learn anything
I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..
There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia