Next Federal Election
Last time I checked, Lithium batteries in Australia were being recycled at 10% and overseas 5%….thats a lot of waste.
Lead acid batteries are being recycled at 95% so perhaps even though less efficient, we should go back to the old school backup systems which also use less other critical minerals.
Lead acid battery banks can be put together easily and cheaply and if not over discharged ( no more than 25% at a time) can last up to 10 years.
I’m going lead acid on my home and treating it really like a big mobile home with solar and mains charging. I don’t see the point in over priced over taxpayer subsidised lithium systems from China that can catch fire and be hard to recycle.
Most people could run an solar charged auxiliary power system through their house off common mobile home type inverters using a different coloured cable to the house cabling….free power.
We did it years ago in our little off grid surf shacks with the cars battery so I can’t see why upscaling is an issue…
For a few years in the early days I’d pull up at my shack and connect jumper leads from the car to my house cable and enjoy 12v lighting 12v TV and a thumping alpine car stereo mounted in a box in the lounge area…
So if you try you can have free power ….where there’s a will there’s a way.
You make some good points.
Lithium batteries make sense in many circumstance's like EV's but yeah for household system's the advantage's aren't as big, it not like you need that fast charge, or limited so much in weight and even size of batteries, acid batteries still do need more maintenance though and less efficient. (but assuming if cheaper)
Battery's overall though are pretty shitty things, expensive and limited life.
BTW. i think you can get proper acid batteries for solar set ups, when i lived at Fraser island most houses had solar with batteries and a generator.
If they can drastically reduce the price tag then this would be awesome , particularly for the trucking industry that Australia relies heavily upon . https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240130-wireless-charging-the-roads-...
Supafreak wrote:If they can drastically reduce the price tag then this would be awesome , particularly for the trucking industry that Australia relies heavily upon . https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240130-wireless-charging-the-roads-...
Another Tesla's (Nikola Tesla) idea coming to life.
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Is that on the PBS?
Optimist wrote:Last time I checked, Lithium batteries in Australia were being recycled at 10% and overseas 5%….thats a lot of waste.
Lead acid batteries are being recycled at 95% so perhaps even though less efficient, we should go back to the old school backup systems which also use less other critical minerals.
Lead acid battery banks can be put together easily and cheaply and if not over discharged ( no more than 25% at a time) can last up to 10 years.
I’m going lead acid on my home and treating it really like a big mobile home with solar and mains charging. I don’t see the point in over priced over taxpayer subsidised lithium systems from China that can catch fire and be hard to recycle.
Most people could run an solar charged auxiliary power system through their house off common mobile home type inverters using a different coloured cable to the house cabling….free power.
We did it years ago in our little off grid surf shacks with the cars battery so I can’t see why upscaling is an issue…
For a few years in the early days I’d pull up at my shack and connect jumper leads from the car to my house cable and enjoy 12v lighting 12v TV and a thumping alpine car stereo mounted in a box in the lounge area…
So if you try you can have free power ….where there’s a will there’s a way.
Optimist. Hi mate.
Glad to hear you’ve had and got PV and battery systems .
I’ve a mix of Lithium and Lead Acid.
Just to clarify, it’s Lithium ion batteries that are the ones periodically catching fire.
Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries are the ones campers and boating people are using, including myself.
I’ve four connected so I’ve ended up with 48V, I can run a 3000W inverter and use any electrical appliance I like even if I’m way out in the boon dogs.
The personal technology available today is outstanding. AW
What're boon dogs AW?
Are they friendly canines that keep you warrm whilst camping in the boondocks.
Inside a broken clock
Splashing the wine
With all the Boon Dogs
For I am a Boon Dog, too.
AlfredWallace wrote:Optimist wrote:Last time I checked, Lithium batteries in Australia were being recycled at 10% and overseas 5%….thats a lot of waste.
Lead acid batteries are being recycled at 95% so perhaps even though less efficient, we should go back to the old school backup systems which also use less other critical minerals.
Lead acid battery banks can be put together easily and cheaply and if not over discharged ( no more than 25% at a time) can last up to 10 years.
I’m going lead acid on my home and treating it really like a big mobile home with solar and mains charging. I don’t see the point in over priced over taxpayer subsidised lithium systems from China that can catch fire and be hard to recycle.
Most people could run an solar charged auxiliary power system through their house off common mobile home type inverters using a different coloured cable to the house cabling….free power.
We did it years ago in our little off grid surf shacks with the cars battery so I can’t see why upscaling is an issue…
For a few years in the early days I’d pull up at my shack and connect jumper leads from the car to my house cable and enjoy 12v lighting 12v TV and a thumping alpine car stereo mounted in a box in the lounge area…
So if you try you can have free power ….where there’s a will there’s a way.Optimist. Hi mate.
Glad to hear you’ve had and got PV and battery systems .
I’ve a mix of Lithium and Lead Acid.Just to clarify, it’s Lithium ion batteries that are the ones periodically catching fire.
Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries are the ones campers and boating people are using, including myself.
I’ve four connected so I’ve ended up with 48V, I can run a 3000W inverter and use any electrical appliance I like even if I’m way out in the boon dogs.
The personal technology available today is outstanding. AW
Hmm i didnt know that, looking at the difference between them all Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries seem a good middle ground.
Might as well put this up in the politics subforum, to spare the front page. It's 18 months away or so, but here we go.
This is how Dutton wins:
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