Next Federal Election
Yep your right Stu, I wasn't aware a "peacekeeping" force is made up of roughly 90% troops and 10% *other staff as per the UN website, probably similar figures for a country declaring war and invading another country, doesn't negate anything I said.
...go on, you weren't aware of 90% of the above campaigns either, were you?
And if you're really hell-bent on making this political, why not divvy up which party was in power during each mission?
Goddam Albo.
I blame him for my car shitting itself, forcing me to buy another one
Peter Reynolds wrote:Who are these "peacekeeping" troops?? Ambo's? Security guards? No, they are ADF soldiers entering a combat zone.
The softest, weakest most impotent political party in Australia puffing it's runty little chest out trying to earn a few votes before the election. We all know this is not going to happen, France will not send "peacekeeping" troops either. A desperate little man trying to act tough, while a commercial airline pilot had to tell him the Chinese are firing live munitions, what pathetic little runt he is.
Hi I’m Peter Reynolds, torch bearer and flag waver for the Liberal Party.
Give us a break, you lot are all the same, bring critique but no solutions to anything same old stories.
If you think Dutton is the solution , well, he couldn’t lay straight in anyone’s bed, he’s a nut job and totally clueless.
Imagine the leaders of the rest of the world meeting Dutton for the first time, oh the ‘horror’ and the ‘shock’. AW
Come on Stu your comparing chalk and cheese now, any of those above-mentioned conflicts involving the internal dynamics of small, corrupt countries harbor nuclear weapons?
AlfredWallace wrote:Peter Reynolds wrote:Who are these "peacekeeping" troops?? Ambo's? Security guards? No, they are ADF soldiers entering a combat zone.
The softest, weakest most impotent political party in Australia puffing it's runty little chest out trying to earn a few votes before the election. We all know this is not going to happen, France will not send "peacekeeping" troops either. A desperate little man trying to act tough, while a commercial airline pilot had to tell him the Chinese are firing live munitions, what pathetic little runt he is.Hi I’m Peter Reynolds, torch bearer and flag waver for the Liberal Party.
Give us a break, you lot are all the same, bring critique but no solutions to anything same old stories.
If you think Dutton is the solution , well, he couldn’t lay straight in anyone’s bed, he’s a nut job and totally clueless.
Imagine the leaders of the rest of the world meeting Dutton for the first time, oh the ‘horror’ and the ‘shock’. AW
A lot of cliche' lines there AW, not a lot of meat on the bones
This isn’t about liberal or labor….its about right and wrong….the blood can stop.
Ukraine should take the deal….and stop letting the US democrats and now the EU run their country as a proxy Russian haters association.
Just more weapons for more money on hire purchase.
Notice there has been no vote on the matter in Ukraine…..
…for a peace deal and no more war….for a fresh new leader maybe…
…..a fresh start all round.
Peter Reynolds wrote:Come on Stu your comparing chalk and cheese now, any of those above-mentioned conflicts involving the internal dynamics of small, corrupt countries harbor nuclear weapons?
What are you saying, the peacekeepers are going to be nuked??
And what does it matter the source of the unrest? Internal hatreds can be as bitter as anything else - see Tutsi and Hutus. For decades, Australian peacekeepers have done well, most particularly in Oceania but also when needed elsewhere.
Keep in mind, no-one is sent against their wishes, we don't have conscription, and we also live in, and greatly benefit from, a globalised world.
stunet wrote:Peter Reynolds wrote:Come on Stu your comparing chalk and cheese now, any of those above-mentioned conflicts involving the internal dynamics of small, corrupt countries harbor nuclear weapons?
What are you saying, the peacekeepers are going to be nuked??
And what does it matter the source of the unrest? Internal hatreds can be as bitter as anything else - see Tutsi and Hutus. For decades, Australian peacekeepers have done well, most particularly in Oceania but also when needed elsewhere.
Keep in mind, no-one is sent against their wishes, we don't have conscription, and we also live in, and greatly benefit from, a globalised world.
I'll leave it there fine sir, good chatting to you
Optimist wrote:...
Ukraine should take the deal….and stop letting the US democrats and now the EU run their country ....
Out of interest Optimist, who is doing the stalling? Last I heard was Ukraine were saying yes we accept and the Russian Federation were saying let's see more detail, while busily proceeding to blast away.
I agree it is time to stop the blood shed but it will take 2 willing participants and oversight by others.
Yes the devil is in the detail ain’t it….
On another topic….the other day I saw a guy with a MAGA hat…..it said …
MAGA……MAKE ALBO GO AWAY…….had to laugh ….was pretty funny…
Optimist wrote:Yes the devil is in the detail ain’t it….
On another topic….the other day I saw a guy with a MAGA hat…..it said …
MAGA……MAKE ALBO GO AWAY…….had to laugh ….was pretty funny…
That was JeffY you saw, he snow dropped my MAGA hat and T shirt.!
Optimist wrote:Yes the devil is in the detail ain’t it….
On another topic….the other day I saw a guy with a MAGA hat…..it said …
MAGA……MAKE ALBO GO AWAY…….had to laugh ….was pretty funny…
Okay that is pretty clever.
Optimist wrote:This isn’t about liberal or labor….its about right and wrong….the blood can stop.
Ukraine should take the deal….and stop letting the US democrats and now the EU run their country as a proxy Russian haters association.
Just more weapons for more money on hire purchase.
Notice there has been no vote on the matter in Ukraine…..
…for a peace deal and no more war….for a fresh new leader maybe…
…..a fresh start all round.
The Ukes are defending their country since 2014(in a small way) and in a BIG way for the last 3 years.They didnt invade and they dont want to be wiped out by the Kremlin TERRORISTS.They want peace but POOman doesnt,do you understand?
THEY are under martial law and according to their constitution NO elections can take place(it was due middle to late last year btw).Zelensky has stated that he would trade his presidency for admission to NATO,thats how committed he is to saving Ukraine!
I see Zelensky as a Churchill like statesman, committed to defending his country and wanting FAIR and JUST peace.
As for the Europeans, they dont want war but Russian regime does.
IF, the 2022 invasion had succeeded,Moldova(army of 6000) would have fallen in weeks.The Russians have a 1500 man garrison stationed in Transnistria ready to go.Pooman wants "buffer countries" between Russia and Nato aligned countries.Ukraine and Moldova are 2 such countries.
Do the people of Ukraine care that the election hasn’t happened? Do they want a new leader right now? Zelenskyy’s approval rating suggests not.
seeds wrote:Do the people of Ukraine care that the election hasn’t happened? Do they want a new leader right now? Zelenskyy’s approval rating suggests not.
I think I saw a few weeks ago, just after the OvalAMBUSH that his approval rating was 53-4 %...When the war is over and the Peace is restored, martial law can be relaxed and an election.
Over there, it's a 5 year term. So Zelensky has had half his elected term as a wartime president ,I think he has done well.The west offered him a plane ride out after the invasion, he said Stick ya plane Give us AMO and weapons.He is independently wealthy and could have taken his money and ran away just like ASSAD did.
Yep impressive man.
I think it went up in the 60s after the White House ambush.
seeds wrote:Yep impressive man.
I think it went up in the 60s after the White House ambush.
A different survey to the one I saw, what I did see was TWump BSing that it was 4%, he is like POOtin, cant believe anything that comes from his mount or what he writes.
Actually that bullshit came from the Kremlins own propaganda wing. It’s terrifying that the POTUS is regurgitating this shit but even more so that him and GOP don’t even realise it. Putin is pulling these morons strings
As Zelenskyy said “in a disinformation bubble”
Sorry about the last slide, infodreaming.
Dutto's Pleb Crisis
Up to #5 Reffo Calls + #3 Early Election Calls since Mid 2023
Wotz weird is Dutto is the only Pollie in Oz that has no idea on how to run a Reffo.
All saw him cheat & steal Money & Deny Votes in Mid 2023...to corrupt his Fake Voice Reffo.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/oct/09/indigenous-voice-...
Dutto then Demanded Gold Standard 2x cost Voice Reffo with VIP Don't Know Bibles...
Then calls for 2025 #3 Election Day Reffo
+ Promised a Mid term #4 Voice Reffo if [L] is Elected
Cowardly flees his Cyclone Ravaged Electorate to Sip Cocktails on Mobster's Harbour Cruise.
Now today we're up to Dutto #5 Reffo during his 3rd or is it 4th mandatory Early Election call.
Obviously this [L] Dictator shits & spews on Westminster System & Oz constitution.
We're not even officially campaigning yet...Dutto has time to slip in another 8 Reffos in 8 wks
How is it possible a 8x $4b Fake election Poll fraudster is ahead on polls for shitting on Oz democracy!
So is Dutto running a Mid term Dual Voice / Citizen Reffo or a Voiceless Citizen's Dual Reffo...
Or maybe 2 Fake Pre Poll Reffos just to rort more brain dead [L] voters!
#1 Corrupt AEC Pollie should be struck off the Roll for mandating monthly fake Reffos.
This [L] Nutter costs Aussies $7m/day just to support his Pseudo Echo Reffo Poll Addiction...
He obviously don't care about anyone's crisis but his Quest of World Domination!
Time to pull the plug ...get a sane person at the helm...not another Qldurr...tbb forbids it!
Just add Dutto's next week's Reffo to his Reffo Shopping list!
Crew all see Dutto proudly fly Abo' Flag central to his World ...(Cough...Liar...Creep...Fake...Loser)
Kempsey black fellas stopped from entering a public meeting “meet the pollies” at a pub with Jacinta and the local Nationals member. Jacinta then bailed on the gig due to intel of unruly (bullshit) crowd outside pub.
seeds wrote:Kempsey black fellas stopped from entering a public meeting “meet the pollies” at a pub with Jacinta and the local Nationals member. Jacinta then bailed on the gig due to intel of unruly (bullshit) crowd outside pub.
https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/welcome-to-dunghutti-country-price-e...
Yes Guy
Right media reports are a bit more fantastical.
“Angry and aggressive mob”
Told they weren’t allowed as private function. Whaahaa, public soon turns to private when the local Nationals goon is gunna cop some heat.
If it’s a private function then it’s not meeting the pollies. What kind of nonsense is this? Meeting who, only hardcore vetted loyalists? And they will then sell us a completely opposite picture through snips on social media? Media should’ve called them out before any incident (perceived or real) occurred.
Ha ha, you guys have never had anything to do with the Kempsey mob.
Some of them are next level vicious….they could do well but…….
That’s all I need to say……you have to live there a while or work there.
Optimist wrote:Ha ha, you guys have never had anything to do with the Kempsey mob.
Some of them are next level vicious….they could do well but…….
That’s all I need to say……you have to live there a while or work there.
Bit of a stereotypical response Opti, you are better than that.
You could apply your rationale to any other so called secular group or mob in Australia, black , white, red, yellow whatever flavour , nationality you like.
Come on mate, you don’t know their circumstances. Why is it that when aboriginal people are involved, it’s put straight up in lights from a news perspective ?
This mindset is ageing and boring pal.AW
Optimist wrote:Ha ha, you guys have never had anything to do with the Kempsey mob.
Some of them are next level vicious….they could do well but…….
That’s all I need to say……you have to live there a while or work there.
Gee OPTI, you come out with some weird comments at times(and other times good ones).You dont know WHO lives where for how long and who their connections are.
A quick read of the comments on the facebook link in that article shows that JP is on the government accountability and efficiency crusade which when considering last time the LNP were in charge they were getting outside consultants to do public service jobs at highly inflated prices is laughable, zero accountability and sometimes money paid for no service provided, (still waiting for news on the PwC tax consultant being convicted for giving away department secrets). I get the feeling this is a bait and switch campaign to undo some of the efficiency measures being done and get the consultants back in.
Holmes a Court and the money he is spending supporting the local independent seems to be a prickly issue to the party faithful down there as well although there's a blind spot for the millions Rienhardt is funnelling through the party. They're an easily led bunch of munchkins, give 'em a gripe about Labor or the Teals and they lap it up with myopic fervour and no thought about whether it's true or not, they just repeat the latest mantra dribbling out of Duttons mouth.
Next it will be outrage at no royal on the new $5 note
Got to be there and involved to know…..there are some bad people for sure there.
Some of them are using their kids in a crime gang at the moment as they get off easy……..ask Shane stedman.
Pat Conahan the local member is a really good bloke and would have known what was about to happen and when it was time to go….
PS Alfred ….have you seen the new “ better everyday” by ci….might be a worthy replacement for your aging rubbles.
''when considering last time the LNP were in charge they were getting outside consultants to do public service jobs at highly inflated prices is laughable, zero accountability and sometimes money paid for no service provided,''
But maate, these are jobs for my mates. Gotta look after me old school maates....
comes under the heading of "...cutting red tape..." why waste time and money with recruitment protocols.
I haven't read that book because I know what's in it and it's all a bit too disheartening
Fliplid wrote:comes under the heading of "...cutting red tape..." why waste time and money with recruitment protocols.
I haven't read that book because I know what's in it and it's all a bit too disheartening
Never mind public servants, you know loyal to Australian interests, not consultants loyal to their corporate bosses... :)
Optimist wrote:Got to be there and involved to know…..there are some bad people for sure there.
Some of them are using their kids in a crime gang at the moment as they get off easy……..ask Shane stedman.
Pat Conahan the local member is a really good bloke and would have known what was about to happen and when it was time to go….
PS Alfred ….have you seen the new “ better everyday” by ci….might be a worthy replacement for your aging rubbles.
Optimist.
And lots of other non aboriginal crime groups are using their kids as well. It’s not an isolated issue to one group of Australians, I’m sure you know what I mean.
Social issues are not just confined to one group or mob as you’ve stated. AW
@Optimist,
do you know anything about Insider Trading you fuckwit.
Peter Dutton used confidential information about Rudd backing the big four banks and bought huge $ amounts of shares before the market was informed. Sold for big profit.
Look up the law you fuckwit nutter.
Google it!
It's a criminal offence with big jail time.
You are such a dickhead.
He is a fucking criminal.
This website is full of fucking know it all fuckwits like you and @ Indo and fucking Confusion.
Sorry AW and some of my mates here but I wouldn't hang out in real life with these fuckwits.
@Stu, this is not balance, these people are what is wrong with this country.
Fuck off the lot of you.
Sort this shit out Stu and Ben!
Fuck me dead.
Ruining your website with toxic bullshit and fucking idiots.
Grow up you fucking uneducated cunts.
Learn something.
Same old fuckwits ruining threads.
Want me to moderate Ben?
This is fucking dribble.
Why we have a crim. running for PM.
Sort it out!
It's fucking useless.
Fucking kindergarten bullies.
Sort it out!!!!!
I’m a fan of the previous poster
Albo and Prime Minister Carney from
Canada , sidestep Trump and begin making deal on JORN , the $6.5 billion
Jindalee Operational Radar System ,
Over the horizon radar system, developed in Australia, to defend Canadas Arctic North.
I know it’s hard to believe a politician would use inside information to further their own wealth…..cough cough….but I suppose it’s pretty common in all areas of life.
If you have the tip you often move with it…
Kevin’s Rudds wife made millions after Centrelink privatised job seeker for example…..I think she would have known it was coming.
I think you will find though ,that Dutton has made his money from real estate.
Even though I'm against nuclear , I’m starting to warm to the idea of modular reactors.
They are very efficient and last a very long time and you have to wonder if the spent fuel rods would become less toxic waste IN VOLUME compared to millions of old battery systems….its a good question as people seem to want their electric cars and gadgets. I wrote that big because my words get twisted on here.
Also green hydrogen can be produced which needs lots of power.
The opposition say that the power plants would be govt owned so that they can give the country cheap energy for home and business……..until someone flogs them off I suppose…….there lies the dilemma. If they stay in govt hands good.. if not bad.
There’s a lot to consider in this election with no ideas of value being offered by any players but the two majors….the smaller parties just looking out for their own ideals with no real solutions for progress.
Cheap land and houses is my biggest concern but I see nothing there.
Staying out of Europe's wars is the game changer for me, I was on the fence till then as I liked a few and hated a few ideas from both sides…
In my view, it’s choose a major party this time around libs/ nats or Labor.
Either will need the power to move forward without having to please a minority.
Maybe one day there will be a third major player that uses wisdom and provides the solutions to house us all and share the wealth as well as guaranteeing the FREEDOM OF CHOICE for how people wish to run their lives.
adam12 wrote:@Optimist,
do you know anything about Insider Trading you fuckwit.
Peter Dutton used confidential information about Rudd backing the big four banks and bought huge $ amounts of shares before the market was informed. Sold for big profit.
Look up the law you fuckwit nutter.
Google it!
It's a criminal offence with big jail time.
You are such a dickhead.
He is a fucking criminal.
This website is full of fucking know it all fuckwits like you and @ Indo and fucking Confusion.
Sorry AW and some of my mates here but I wouldn't hang out in real life with these fuckwits.
@Stu, this is not balance, these people are what is wrong with this country.
Fuck off the lot of you.
Sort this shit out Stu and Ben!
Fuck me dead.
Ruining your website with toxic bullshit and fucking idiots.
Grow up you fucking uneducated cunts.
Learn something.
Same old fuckwits ruining threads.
Want me to moderate Ben?
This is fucking dribble.
Why we have a crim. running for PM.
Sort it out!
It's fucking useless.
Fucking kindergarten bullies.
Sort it out!!!!!
OMG there is a hell of a lot of projection there Adam, you are so far up your own arse it's not funny, and yes you are a bully,that even spent years picking on my spelling and grammar belittling me until you pulled your head in and actually realised how much of fuckwit your were being.
You ALWAYS look down on people THINKING you are better than others, and if your not doing that, you are telling stories name dropping trying to big name yourself.
You THINK you know better than everyone no matter the topic, and not just people here but people in the real world be it a politicians or just people you dont like, like Musk or Rogan or legal experts that dont agree with your views.
And you constantly show that you have no self control over your emotions, going on these unprovoked abusive rants.
By all means have your opinion like everyone else, but no dude you are NOT right on everything that you THINK you are, NONE of us are, it's a forum we share our views, people disagree, people agree, that's life, but i expect in real life you just speak above others and bully others into submission so yes i guess it gets under your skin that you cant do that here.
And no you would be a terrible mod, id be a terrible mod too, we would just both ban everyone we dont agree with, that's not moderating.
Go take a chill pill.
In fairness i reckon A12 knows a hell of a lot more than me personally and has a vaster education under his belt to be in a position to speak with conviction and authority. Lived a much richer life too and love the stories.
Not sure about you.
I personally really like reading A12s contributions. After his last post I’m thinking he’s got something going down in his life and is just venting and letting out some frustrations . I could be totally wrong also . Keep the stories coming A12 , some of us enjoy them and your opinion on various topics . Maybe you need an indo surf trip .
I concur, reckon @adam is one of the most interesting and knowledgeable commenters here.
As for being pissed off, if you are not pissed off you haven't been paying attention.
The Western world has lost any ethical stance it may have once had.
We have an ego manic fuckwit in the White House surrounded by Christain right suck-holes and other loonatics.
The USA is supporting a Genocide, yesterday over 400 killed at 2am in the morning in deliberate acts of terror by the most moral army on earth fully backed by the orange clown in the US. Brave fighter pilots bombing innocents without any protection whatsoever.
If you speak against this, you are labelled an antisemite and now the far right have weaponised this and around the western world and any may who speaks up against this is at risk of losing their job, being attacked by the media or even arrested facing jail time.
Freedom of speech ey. RIP.
In Australia we have both parties jumping in with the USA with this AUKUS scam that is leaving Australia defenceless and broke.
Yeah, I need a surf trip.
I'm lucky I am off soon.
PS. Not aimed at you the paying attention bit @supa, also enjoy your contributions.
Jealous of the waves you have been scoring!!
Confusion wrote:Albo and Prime Minister Carney from
Canada , sidestep Trump and begin making deal on JORN , the $6.5 billion
Jindalee Operational Radar System ,
Over the horizon radar system, developed in Australia, to defend Canadas Arctic North.
I helped build those two Radar sites NE of Laverton. FIFO……6 weeks on 1 week off. Pretty fucked roster when you’re in the middle of the desert in your early 20’s
Adam12. Nailed it.
andy-mac wrote:PS. Not aimed at you the paying attention bit @supa, also enjoy your contributions.
Jealous of the waves you have been scoring!!
I didn’t take it as being aimed at me andy , I like your summary of some of the shit going down , enjoy your escape from the madness . Weather has really turned for the worst here , temple at klotok copped it yesterday afternoon, structures blown over , it will be a huge ceremony to appease the Gods , just before nyepi too .
Supafreak wrote:andy-mac wrote:PS. Not aimed at you the paying attention bit @supa, also enjoy your contributions.
Jealous of the waves you have been scoring!!I didn’t take it as being aimed at me andy , I like your summary of some of the shit going down , enjoy your escape from the madness . Weather has really turned for the worst here , temple at klotok copped it yesterday afternoon, structures blown over , it will be a huge ceremony to appease the Gods , just before nyepi too .
Yeah saw some footage of Cangpoo, roofs being blown everywhere...
I admire all contributors who are passionate and stick to their guns when they have the knowledge base to reinforce their view or point of discussion, be it from past experiences or a very sound educational and or workplace environment.
Adam12 is one of those guys.
You simply cannot deny the quality of his irregular contributions that in most cases are sound in historical and well researched material.
You have to ask yourself, I do, why are we drawn to read and digest what he’s written, the fact is, it’s in most cases, interesting . This is validated by the amount of contributors who comment on the quality of the writings and the admissions by loads of us about the enjoyment we derive from it.
Like him or dislike him, that point is irrelevant , it’s the topic being discussed that’s the most important factor, after all it is a forum that discusses surf related topics and a vast range of topics related to our lives or others lives i.e war etc.
The more we interchange dialogue and knowledge, the smarter we all become.
In no way does this diminish all of the great contributions of all of us, that’s what makes this website great, its ok to disagree with others, gees, we can’t live in a generic world where the spoken word is stymied by others.
We should cherish and value free speech. All the best. AW
Well said AW.
Might as well put this up in the politics subforum, to spare the front page. It's 18 months away or so, but here we go.
This is how Dutton wins:
https://www.afr.com/politics/enter-the-liberal-party-working-class-heroe...