Next Federal Election
Last time I checked, Lithium batteries in Australia were being recycled at 10% and overseas 5%….thats a lot of waste.
Lead acid batteries are being recycled at 95% so perhaps even though less efficient, we should go back to the old school backup systems which also use less other critical minerals.
Lead acid battery banks can be put together easily and cheaply and if not over discharged ( no more than 25% at a time) can last up to 10 years.
I’m going lead acid on my home and treating it really like a big mobile home with solar and mains charging. I don’t see the point in over priced over taxpayer subsidised lithium systems from China that can catch fire and be hard to recycle.
Most people could run an solar charged auxiliary power system through their house off common mobile home type inverters using a different coloured cable to the house cabling….free power.
We did it years ago in our little off grid surf shacks with the cars battery so I can’t see why upscaling is an issue…
For a few years in the early days I’d pull up at my shack and connect jumper leads from the car to my house cable and enjoy 12v lighting 12v TV and a thumping alpine car stereo mounted in a box in the lounge area…
So if you try you can have free power ….where there’s a will there’s a way.
You make some good points.
Lithium batteries make sense in many circumstance's like EV's but yeah for household system's the advantage's aren't as big, it not like you need that fast charge, or limited so much in weight and even size of batteries, acid batteries still do need more maintenance though and less efficient. (but assuming if cheaper)
Battery's overall though are pretty shitty things, expensive and limited life.
BTW. i think you can get proper acid batteries for solar set ups, when i lived at Fraser island most houses had solar with batteries and a generator.
If they can drastically reduce the price tag then this would be awesome , particularly for the trucking industry that Australia relies heavily upon . https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240130-wireless-charging-the-roads-...
Supafreak wrote:If they can drastically reduce the price tag then this would be awesome , particularly for the trucking industry that Australia relies heavily upon . https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240130-wireless-charging-the-roads-...
Another Tesla's (Nikola Tesla) idea coming to life.
Fair Dinkum Aussie [L] Media Darlings Blue Sky Mine Field
Expert Panel of Worm Turners
https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/ca2c8723e4a53e68637326448ea6...
Tues 8th April 2025 [7:30pm]
Sky is Falling Debate > prejudiced by Sky [L] Nazi Kieran Gilbert
https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/federal-election-2025...
https://tvblackbox.com.au/page/2019/10/21/2019-10-21-kieran-gilbert-beco...
Wed 16th April 2025 [8:00pm]
Sky is Caving in Debate > skewed by Sky [L] Nazi David Speers
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-03/abc-to-host-election-leaders-deba...
https://www.crikey.com.au/2019/05/24/david-speers-insiders-sky/
So [L] Sky Media Nazi Darlings Bully the Debates...did any really expect any partial Media Partiality...Huh!
Apology for upping the Nazi rhetoric but why only roll out these Sky Guys with evil eyes...
That sounds a bit nicer tbb...ya think!
Breaking News : Ouch!
Dutto : "Typical...Our weak limbed PM takes a tumble...
Walking Disaster is not fit for the rigors of the hustings!"
Recall Scomo's childish Footy Bash > Trump's Shoot out > Albo Bullied off stage....up he pops!
Does a Shimmy Shake...good to go!
https://7news.com.au/news/prime-minister-anthony-albanese-takes-a-tumble...
ALP Shop Cart : You have selected 1 Tin of Toto's Shimmy Shake Flea Powder!
Is that on the PBS?
Optimist wrote:Last time I checked, Lithium batteries in Australia were being recycled at 10% and overseas 5%….thats a lot of waste.
Lead acid batteries are being recycled at 95% so perhaps even though less efficient, we should go back to the old school backup systems which also use less other critical minerals.
Lead acid battery banks can be put together easily and cheaply and if not over discharged ( no more than 25% at a time) can last up to 10 years.
I’m going lead acid on my home and treating it really like a big mobile home with solar and mains charging. I don’t see the point in over priced over taxpayer subsidised lithium systems from China that can catch fire and be hard to recycle.
Most people could run an solar charged auxiliary power system through their house off common mobile home type inverters using a different coloured cable to the house cabling….free power.
We did it years ago in our little off grid surf shacks with the cars battery so I can’t see why upscaling is an issue…
For a few years in the early days I’d pull up at my shack and connect jumper leads from the car to my house cable and enjoy 12v lighting 12v TV and a thumping alpine car stereo mounted in a box in the lounge area…
So if you try you can have free power ….where there’s a will there’s a way.
Optimist. Hi mate.
Glad to hear you’ve had and got PV and battery systems .
I’ve a mix of Lithium and Lead Acid.
Just to clarify, it’s Lithium ion batteries that are the ones periodically catching fire.
Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries are the ones campers and boating people are using, including myself.
I’ve four connected so I’ve ended up with 48V, I can run a 3000W inverter and use any electrical appliance I like even if I’m way out in the boon dogs.
The personal technology available today is outstanding. AW
What're boon dogs AW?
Are they friendly canines that keep you warrm whilst camping in the boondocks.
Inside a broken clock
Splashing the wine
With all the Boon Dogs
For I am a Boon Dog, too.
AlfredWallace wrote:Optimist wrote:Last time I checked, Lithium batteries in Australia were being recycled at 10% and overseas 5%….thats a lot of waste.
Lead acid batteries are being recycled at 95% so perhaps even though less efficient, we should go back to the old school backup systems which also use less other critical minerals.
Lead acid battery banks can be put together easily and cheaply and if not over discharged ( no more than 25% at a time) can last up to 10 years.
I’m going lead acid on my home and treating it really like a big mobile home with solar and mains charging. I don’t see the point in over priced over taxpayer subsidised lithium systems from China that can catch fire and be hard to recycle.
Most people could run an solar charged auxiliary power system through their house off common mobile home type inverters using a different coloured cable to the house cabling….free power.
We did it years ago in our little off grid surf shacks with the cars battery so I can’t see why upscaling is an issue…
For a few years in the early days I’d pull up at my shack and connect jumper leads from the car to my house cable and enjoy 12v lighting 12v TV and a thumping alpine car stereo mounted in a box in the lounge area…
So if you try you can have free power ….where there’s a will there’s a way.Optimist. Hi mate.
Glad to hear you’ve had and got PV and battery systems .
I’ve a mix of Lithium and Lead Acid.Just to clarify, it’s Lithium ion batteries that are the ones periodically catching fire.
Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries are the ones campers and boating people are using, including myself.
I’ve four connected so I’ve ended up with 48V, I can run a 3000W inverter and use any electrical appliance I like even if I’m way out in the boon dogs.
The personal technology available today is outstanding. AW
Hmm i didnt know that, looking at the difference between them all Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries seem a good middle ground.
Sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction
Chinese Downunder-Ditch-Antarctic Itinerary (#1 swellnet exclusive)
Crew can read many updated renditions tbb prepared in time for Election.
Somehow tbb knew this was gonna be a thing...all saw it building...just getting up to date!
Anyhow...crew are now well informed of Chinese > Oz-NZ Shipping
Sure! All know this is our Media's Job...again...just forget them...fucking useless!
Seriously...this Chart would be standard for past News / Electoral Supplements..
Oz Govt < NZ > Chinese Naval Defence Exercises span 12 years over 50,000sq km of Ocean
Forward...AASAM (International Military Games)
Active field assault targets > favours shorter armed shooters...Usually 1st Indo 2nd China
Possible reason for banning China from ADF Comps...see photo...( Dutto's kinda Chinese Invasion )
https://au.pinterest.com/pin/341218109248906811/
Pretty scary huh...Libs arming Chinese Flagged Troops staking claims on our burbs...
No! The media are too afraid to share Dutto's pro Chinese Defence Pact Policy.
tbb prefers keeping Chinese Navy sailing well offshore > Dutto plants Reds under our beds!
Noting there are also former Chinese / Oz Air Force Pacts
Training Chinese Jet Fighter Pilots (Covid Period > Now Banned)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-01-14/federal-court-challenge-launched-...
Monash University Aero Dynamic STEM Partnerships COMAC (Under Review with Port/s)
https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/albanese-promises-fresh-review-to-k...
2013-2025 China -Oz-NZ Oceanic Calendar
Jan Arctic Return-Refuel
Feb Arctic Return-Refuel
Mar / April (Logistics switch from Southern > Northern Chinese Cycle)
May AASAM (Victoria-Live Fire Exercise Comp & Medal Awards)
June RIMPAC (Pac-US Live Fire Naval Fleets)
July Talisman SABRE (Unofficial default Observer)
Aug PANDAROO (NT/Qld) + Airforce Training Unit
Sept KOWARI (NSW Sydney Harbour - Canberra - Chinese Ports)
Oct KAKADU (WA/NT) Naval Exercise in Oz Top Secret Economic Zone.
Oct Naval Conference/s Sydney
Nov Antarctic Port Supplies
Dec Antarctic Ports Supplies
Timeline Itinerary
Jan 2013 Hobart invites Chinese for Antarctic Base Port (First Visit)
2014
June 2014 China joins Oz in RIMPAC Naval Exercises
Nov PM Abbott invites Xi Jinping & signs MoU Hobart-Chinese Antarctic Expedition base
2015 [L] Govt invite partner China in 3 Joint Defence Live-fire Exercises
April [L] PM Abbott leases 50% $1.75b 98 yr Chinese lease for Port of Newcastle
Aug [L] PM Abbott invites China for PANDAROO Maritime Rotational Force
Oct [L] PM Turnbull leases 100% $ 506m 99 yr Chinese lease for Port of Darwin
2016 [L] Govt invite partner China in 5 Joint Defence Live-fire Exercises
April China joins Oz in RIMPAC Naval Exercises
June Brisbane [L] PM Turnbull welcomes Chinese Navy
July [L] PM Turnbull rubberstamps Chinese Lease for PNG Port Lae
Sept [L] PM Turnbull leases 20% $1.2b 50 yr Chinese lease for Port of Melbourne
2017 [L] Govt invite partner China in 4 Joint Defence Live-fire Exercises
June NZ Auckland welcome Chinese for Joint Warship Exercises
July [L] PM Turnbull rubberstamps Chinese Lease for Timor Port Tibor
July Chinese Navy self appointed Monitors of All Qld Talisman Sabre Naval Exercises
Sept China invites Oz to Yunnan /Port + Barracks for KOWARI Coastal Exercises
2018 [L] Govt invite partner China in 4 Joint Defence Live-fire Exercises
Sept [L] PM Morrison invites China to Join KAKADU Naval Exercises
Sept [L] Oz joins Chinese Joint Naval Passage Exercises in Zhanjiang
Sept Chinese Ice Breaker ports in Hobart
Nov Chinese Antarctic Ship in Hobart
2019 [L] Govt invite partner China in 4 Joint Defence Live-fire Exercises
Jan Chinese New Year Powerbrokers bankroll [L] Election
Feb [L] Chinese Multi $Million Darwin Port Rorter [L] Robb quits before register exposes him!
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/andrew-robb-quits-china-linked-f...
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-19/can-darwin-port-99-year-lease-chi...
April Oz Navy attends Red Army 70th Anniversary
June Armed Chinese Naval Fleet Invades Sydney Harbour
Oct Chinese Navy attend Sydney Naval Conference
Oct China invites Oz for KOWARI on Hainan Island
Oct PNG > Japan/NZ crew board > Wellington welcomes Chinese Naval Ship
Nov Chinese Antarctic Ship in Hobart
Covid ended Oz-China Military Exercises...(US-China Defence Exercises continued online)
2020
March Chinese Antarctic Research Ship arrives in Hobart
Dec Christchurch welcomes Chinese Antarctic Ship (Drone - Gift)
https://www.lpc.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/LPC0440-LPC-Update-Dec-...
2021
Aug Chinese Navy Spy Ship enters Darwin EEZ > Sydney> NZ circles Oz over 3 weeks (see also 2025)
PM: "Unusual to visit outside of Exercises + Dutto is suspicious but asks to play it down!"
https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/chinese-spy-ship-...
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-26/australia-will-not-complain-about...
2022
Jan New Chinese Ambassador (See Dutto's mate!)
May (Fed Election) Chinese Navy breaches Exmouth EEZ Defence Precinct
https://www.twz.com/chinese-spy-ship-makes-first-appearance-near-austral...
Election Debate over Port of Darwin
https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/handling-of-darwin-port-lease-a-fiasco...
June New ALP Govt promise to revisit Port of Darwin
https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/albanese-promises-fresh-review-to-k...
Sept Chinese Navy self appointed monitors of KAKADU Exercises
Dec Christchurch Chinese Research Ship arrives for Deep Trench > Antarctica
2023
Nov Fremantle welcomes Chinese Antarctic Ship/s
NZ Christchurch welcomes Chinese Antarctic Ship
Dec NZ Christchurch welcomes Chinese Antarctic Ship
2024
Nov Hobart welcomes Chinese Antarctic Research Ship
Nov Dutto secretly discusses Oz security with Chinese Ambassador...making Aussies nervous!
https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/peter-dutton-meets-wi...
2025
Jan > March NZ Wellington welcomes Chinese Trench Research Ship
Feb Oz - Chinese Defence dialogue recommences
Feb Dutto meets with his fav banned Chinese $Gazillionaire/s to Plot Oz Invasion
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/ccp-linked-casino-high-roller-at...
Feb Chinese Navy Sonar Tests conduct Live Fire Exercises survey Oz Continent
March...Day 1 of electoral campaign [L] Leader wines & dines wealthy Chinese Backers
To celebrate [L] Chinese Defence Partnership Dutto orders # Chinese election invasion special .
https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/c750f4942d47121e3e3d52cd21c4c158?...
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/albanese-calls-dutton-a-copycat-...
March NZ Chinese Research Vessel Discovery 1 invades Oz Waters during Election
5 April : Dutto has another secret meeting with his [L] Campaign Manager Xiao Qian
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhFfX8IaUAEmRLq?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
Albo says it's very strange that Dutto is campaigning for banned Chinese Gazillionaires / Ambassadors
April Oz caretaker ALP + Xiao Qian [L] Party campaign to buy back [L] Leased Port of Darwin
https://au.news.yahoo.com/tensions-simmer-port-row-201305953.html
29 Mar 2025 Back on Track (Vote for your Qld Chinese [L] Senate Candidates 5 Li / 6 Zhuang)
Dutto/Qld Sen Paul Scarr are promising a Mega Qld Chinese a Museum if you Elect a Chinese [L] Govt
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/mar/28/australia-electio...
We Chat : "Vote Dutto for Back Track to Yummy [L] Gazillionaire Golden Ticket Showers!"
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/apr/02/candidates-using-...
Spud following in scumo’s footsteps when it comes to playing footy and injuring others.Meanwhile, in spuds home state Albo surveys the flood damage with 100 million support. Spud and scumo have similar priorities when Australia faces natural disasters MIA is the liberal way . https://www.9news.com.au/national/tv-cameraman-injured-by-wayward-footy-.... https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-05/funding-for-flood-affected-wester...
Might as well put this up in the politics subforum, to spare the front page. It's 18 months away or so, but here we go.
This is how Dutton wins:
https://www.afr.com/politics/enter-the-liberal-party-working-class-heroe...