Next Federal Election
"Could it be that sense will finally prevail? ABC."
let's hope so
just when you think the teals have absolutely nothing to offer other than a dose of malcolm turnball lite with a vagina...
I see pocock and another off blue making some noise this week, good on em
and now we have dutton
in his own way...
albo gonna be dragged kicking and screaming to the gas cartel lynching party?
clown gonna be looking a bit... 'damned if you do, damned if you don't'
if he don't...
once again, irony reigns supreme
Supafreak wrote:velocityjohnno wrote:Sportsbet election odds have flipped
https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politic...
ALP 1.72
LIb 2.10
Miracle of any sort 81Hows the house looking quadzilla ?
knew I shoulda placed a bet when indod was onto it
but then again...
it ain't over yet, far from it
I think this little tax cut thingy has the potential to be the first time tax cuts have lost a party an election
it's such a cynical, offensive, piss in the ocean - at the same time incredibly expensive, non solution to a problem, I think it will have more negative effect than positive...
it simply makes no sense, came from nowhere, has no justification beyond vote buying, and isn't even good at that, it's such a pissy amount... all delayed to a later date...
it's more than offensive
all for what?
'cost of living pressure'
5 bucks... get fucked!
Supafreak wrote:velocityjohnno wrote:Sportsbet election odds have flipped
https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politic...
ALP 1.72
LIb 2.10
Miracle of any sort 81Hows the house looking quadzilla ?
Needs painting, but you may not have read that I flipped the bet to Twump not ending the war in 100 days!
quadzilla wrote:Supafreak wrote:velocityjohnno wrote:Sportsbet election odds have flipped
https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politic...
ALP 1.72
LIb 2.10
Miracle of any sort 81Hows the house looking quadzilla ?
Needs painting, but you may not have read that I flipped the bet to Twump not ending the war in 100 days!
Hahaha fair enough, a much better bet . Hope you are getting a few waves to ease the pain of having spud as your attacking midfielder. Like to read your thoughts on the ski resort getting built in Ukraine , 1.4 billion is no small investment.
velocityjohnno wrote:Sportsbet election odds have flipped
https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politic...
ALP 1.72
LIb 2.10
Miracle of any sort 81
Wow that's pretty crazy how it can change so much, the odds before though just didn't make sense, while id prefer it the other way, i think this makes more sense based on history of there not being a one term government for almost 100 years or something.
With most of our new GP's coming from places like Iran, it makes me wonder why some of the Medicare budget was not directed to training Australia's best and brightest students for free...
Seems simple.....best students get the choice...spend some time in the regionals for a return favour.
1 billion of the proposed addition of many billions would have trained 5,000 new young Australian born GP's.
Not much good having a big Medicare boost when there are no doctors.
It shows a common lack of foresight and simply offering fake "free stuff" to get votes...
...and a $5 tax cut in 15 months...serious?
I'm worried about our countries future...simple problems out of reach of our leaders....not an optimist there.
Most of our new general practitioners do not come from places like Iran.
?si=CnCC_P0C7xiAM8rw Doesn’t the new tax cuts combined with the incoming tax reform bring your average joe to being roughly $2500 a year better off by 2027 ? What exactly are the LNP policies on tax reform ? Oh that’s right, a tax break for Gina & co . At least Labor is chipping away at cost of living, sure more needs to be done , they have been in for one term and had a huge mess to clean up . Labor needs to get our domestic gas sorted. The LNP want to keep the coal burning because they are #bettermoneymanagers can any LNP supporters please explain what policies attract you to vote for them ?
I'll take the tax cut from whoever give it to me. Thanks Labor on providing another tax cut.
Supafreak wrote:Doesn’t the new tax cuts combined with the incoming tax reform bring your average joe to being roughly $2500 a year better off by 2027 ? What exactly are the LNP policies on tax reform ? Oh that’s right, a tax break for Gina & co . At least Labor is chipping away at cost of living, sure more needs to be done , they have been in for one term and had a huge mess to clean up . Labor needs to get our domestic gas sorted. The LNP want to keep the coal burning because they are #bettermoneymanagers can any LNP supporters please explain what policies attract you to vote for them ?
Let's also not forget how they changed prescription drugs to double, save heaps for oldies or people on medication in $$ and time.
Min wage increase.
Increase for aged care workers who are doing an extremely important job for peanuts, they got a good pay increase.
What was inflation when Albo took over compared to now?
Taylor too scared to debate Chalmers, he would be made to look more stupid than he already does.
Dutton will only appear on LNP friendly media who pretty much get on their knees, for a so called strong man, he is really a coward.
Never mind an inside trader which the media have moved on from. If Albo, would still be front page if he had not already been forced to resign.
2 surpluses, and way less debt than what we would have had if Scomo won.
Remember they blew out the debt before Covid, this is not opinion but easily fact checked. they did this with nothing to show for it.
With seppos going after PBS, ya don't want the libs in, they will fold like a camp chair.
Fuel excise, smells like a non- core.....
That's quickly off the top of my head.
Yeah but both parties are the same.
ALP have disappointed in quite a few areas but are still miles ahead of the alternative.
Nuclear power and a referendum on beat up BS, what else are they offering?
Choice should be pretty clear.
Smoke and mirrors. What the give in one hand, they will be taking from another. ie fuel, insurance, alcohol, etc, etc, etc. Fuel alone increases the cost of everything you consume.
Remember the luxury car tax that was put in place to prop up the Australian car industry? They're all gone but the tax is still there.
Of course it's smoke and mirrors. But I'll take it. Between federal, state and council governments they are hitting us everywhere. You can't even take out an insurance policy without paying the stamp duty. Why are we still paying the stamp duty to take the insurance out?
What they did with immigration after covid is unforgivable, including the downstream affect on Australians in the rental, house-buying, entry workforce, and homelessness realms. The failure to enact the east coast gas reservation baked into the cake much higher gas and electricity prices. And yes, the backstop of housing during covid (policy and RBA) saw an enormous new amount of fiat currency come into existence, which jacked those prices - it all results in a perfect storm of cost of living crisis for everyday Australians, and has destroyed competitiveness of those businesses trying to make things here, right when we need them the most. And a rebate fixes it? You can't reward this, but there is no distinct alternative and they are much better on the PBS than the main alternative.
Optimist wrote:With most of our new GP's coming from places like Iran,
You know it's ignorant comments like this that divides us so much as a human race in the current climate. Maybe try a little harder Optimist to not be the person you like to be.
Labor party taking credit for reduction in inflation is riiiiiiiiiiich, federal reserve did that with interest rates nothing to do with Labor's policies one bit.
Energy? You guys need to sack that idiot Chris Bowen, his hydrogen renewable scheme is getting embarrassing. The fact that you won't even entertain a conversation about nuclear is arrogant af, similar kind of attitude that sunk the Voice, can you tell me if Albo has even mentioned our ATSI peoples since losing the referendum? Taken his bat and ball and fucked off home, he has ended up doing nothing for our most marginalised, all talk, could of negotiated or compromised but no his fealty to his legacy was more important to him.
Labor has always thrown money at a problem, that's it. I will never forget the little ditty by Sarah Ferguson of the ABC before the last election cycle, whereby Labor was being accused of being light on policy, "Its not the oppositions job to come up with precise policy alternatives, it's their job to argue against the current government policy". Now the shoe is on the other foot, it's the Libs job to govern for the Labor party?
''Labor party taking credit for reduction in inflation is riiiiiiiiiiich, federal reserve did that with interest rates nothing to do with Labor's policies one bit.''
Might be true, but if it had not come down you could guarantee that the LNP would be blaming Labor, not the RBA...
Peter Reynolds wrote:Labor party taking credit for reduction in inflation is riiiiiiiiiiich, federal reserve did that with interest rates nothing to do with Labor's policies one bit.
Energy? You guys need to sack that idiot Chris Bowen, his hydrogen renewable scheme is getting embarrassing. The fact that you won't even entertain a conversation about nuclear is arrogant af, similar kind of attitude that sunk the Voice, can you tell me if Albo has even mentioned our ATSI peoples since losing the referendum? Taken his bat and ball and fucked off home, he has ended up doing nothing for our most marginalised, all talk, could of negotiated or compromised but no his fealty to his legacy was more important to him.
Labor has always thrown money at a problem, that's it. I will never forget the little ditty by Sarah Ferguson of the ABC before the last election cycle, whereby Labor was being accused of being light on policy, "Its not the oppositions job to come up with precise policy alternatives, it's their job to argue against the current government policy". Now the shoe is on the other foot, it's the Libs job to govern for the Labor party?
So Mr Reynolds , what LNP policies are you attracted to ? There’s an election coming up , do they have any particular policies that you see as getting them over the line ? Or is spud simply a dud ?
Spud is most definitely a dud, but so is Albo. The whole political landscape is one almighty s**t show. One tar, two bushes, FFS, We have the choice of shit and shit, same outcome, different arseholes.
fitzroy-21 wrote:Spud is most definitely a dud, but so is Albo. The whole political landscape is one almighty s**t show. One tar, two bushes, FFS, We have the choice of shit and shit, same outcome, different arseholes.
Do you believe if the LNP get in that they will actually pursue nuclear energy as an alternative power source ? Or just keep burning the coal for decades to come ? Australia has ideal weather for wind & solar energy. What positives does nuclear have ? I only see the negatives in waste , time to build , makes a good target to bomb and cost is very very high . Then there is getting it passed through state parliament . LNP #bettermoneymanagersforgina&clive ………..I will go with shit lite anyday.
fitzroy-21 wrote:Spud is most definitely a dud, but so is Albo. The whole political landscape is one almighty s**t show. One tar, two bushes, FFS, We have the choice of shit and shit, same outcome, different arseholes.
Choice of shit and shit, but one shit a lot shittier than the other.
Supafreak wrote:Do you believe if the LNP get in that they will actually pursue nuclear energy as an alternative power source ? Or just keep burning the coal for decades to come ? Australia has ideal weather for wind & solar energy. What positives does nuclear have ? I only see the negatives in waste , time to build , makes a good target to bomb and cost is very very high . Then there is getting it passed through state parliament . LNP #bettermoneymanagersforgina&clive ………..I will go with shit lite anyday.
"Do you believe if the LNP get in that they will actually pursue nuclear energy as an alternative power source?" I reckon they will waste untold billions of taxpayers dollars "looking into the feasibility" etc, but that would be about it. Any costings a government does, times it by ten. Look at nearly every project in the last 20 years the government has invested in (state and federal) and not one would have come in anywhere near the budget estimate. If the government was a legitimate business, they would be bankrupt a million times over, Kerry Packer said it best.
From Guardian blog.
""Albanese and Dutton close ranks to defend Aukus
The first question from the crossbench comes from Goldstein’s MP, Zoe Daniel, who asks about Aukus and whether it’s “sensible” to be spending billions on the deal when the US congressional budget office has said the submarines may never be delivered.
Albanese says Aukus is in the national interest, and goes into why nuclear subs are important. But Daniel makes a point of order, saying she asked specifically about the capacity of the US to deliver the subs.
Albanese says everyone’s on board with the Aukus plan and he’s spent heaps of time talking to his counterparts in the US and UK.
In a slight deviation to the normal combative approach to QT, Peter Dutton stands up to say:
I think that was a pretty good answer and I wanted to support the prime minister.
(QT can still bring us surprises!)""
Shit and Shit Lite on full display,
I am actually fed up with this country, it's governing bodies and all the stupid laws and legislation.
My wife and I decided to work as much as we could and do as much overtime as possible to get ahead and ease the financial burden, get a few nicer things, give the kids better schooling. But oh no, we have just gone into the next tax bracket, the ATO wants more, we have to let our health insurance know as we have now gone into the next tier of rebate, so now we are effectively worse off in the pocket because we tried to "work harder and do better". Ok, let's offset that and pour more into our superannuation. Nope, there is a fucking cap on that as well. Fuck you the taxpayer. Where's the fucking incentive. It is an absolute joke.
But hey, we are the government, lets talk about dying salmon, or nuclear power, or 6 months of electricity relief, or yet another fucking royal commission into something there was a royal commission about 5 years ago and we did sweet fuckall about. Fuck the tax payer. they are funding all this. And while we are at it , let's give ourselves another pay rise whilst we argue about the cost of living crisis ordinary Australians face on a daily basis.
Yep, shit and shit lite. Which is which?? Same shit, different arsehole.
Spot on mate, I fully understand the frustration. It gets even worse once you add morbid safety culture with never ending rules to ‘keep us safe from ourselves’.
We even thought about selling the house and downsizing a bit. Nope, worse off financially as we have CGT on the old place and then stamp duty on the purchase of the new one. FFS.
CGT on your own house is awful. Although not as bad as the fools advocating for 100% inheritance tax (The Guardian); that's just cruel and evil and against all human nature.
On the subs, the AUKUS agreement is more than just 3 American sourced second hand Virginia class boats.
A majority of the subs delivered will be UK built, the successor of the very capable Astute class. The UK is not going through Trumpian gyrations.
It also includes training of Australian sailors, and will see UK and US subs based out of our ports - these visits have begun. And Australian officers have graduated the nuclear power training programs, and been serving with UK and US submarines, as far as I know.
It's also a technology sharing agreement, and the UK and Australia are combining on some Army platforms presently.
If the US becomes an unreliable ally, the UK will still be building a new generation of SSNs - in fact the keel for the name ship of the Dreadnought class SSBN was laid last week. Reactor work in the UK is being greatly expanded, and the yards building and maintaining their subs are as well.
If we are to abandon and replace the subs, we face a problem. When Tony Abbott was PM, it was going to be the Japanese Soryu class SSK. Then it was changed to a conventional version of the French nuclear Barracuda class (Attack class) - with all the rework that entailed. There seems to be some consternation that the French were keeping up to date on their part of the work - and the program was cancelled. If we are to swap now, in 2025, to a new form of conventional sub, we will have wasted over 10 years of time, and will face a long procurement and development time anyway. Think 2 years on the competing tender to start with. And when complete, they will still not be as stealthy, and as such as much a deterrent, as an SSN. Most of the people writing dissenting articles recommend going back to the French, almost as if they are lobbying for that.
I don't know if we could quickly find the old toolings and build further Collins class SSKs, I would think the engineering nous of that program has well and truly moved on. Even if we could build 20 quickly, who would crew them?
If we do nothing and be peaceful, we risk what happened to the Dutch in the East Indies in WWII, for the military expansion to our north is real and enormous.
velocityjohnno wrote:On the subs, the AUKUS agreement is more than just 3 American sourced second hand Virginia class boats.
A majority of the subs delivered will be UK built, the successor of the very capable Astute class. The UK is not going through Trumpian gyrations.
It also includes training of Australian sailors, and will see UK and US subs based out of our ports - these visits have begun. And Australian officers have graduated the nuclear power training programs, and been serving with UK and US submarines, as far as I know.
It's also a technology sharing agreement, and the UK and Australia are combining on some Army platforms presently.
If the US becomes an unreliable ally, the UK will still be building a new generation of SSNs - in fact the keel for the name ship of the Dreadnought class SSBN was laid last week. Reactor work in the UK is being greatly expanded, and the yards building and maintaining their subs are as well.
If we are to abandon and replace the subs, we face a problem. When Tony Abbott was PM, it was going to be the Japanese Soryu class SSK. Then it was changed to a conventional version of the French nuclear Barracuda class (Attack class) - with all the rework that entailed. There seems to be some consternation that the French were keeping up to date on their part of the work - and the program was cancelled. If we are to swap now, in 2025, to a new form of conventional sub, we will have wasted over 10 years of time, and will face a long procurement and development time anyway. Think 2 years on the competing tender to start with. And when complete, they will still not be as stealthy, and as such as much a deterrent, as an SSN. Most of the people writing dissenting articles recommend going back to the French, almost as if they are lobbying for that.
I don't know if we could quickly find the old toolings and build further Collins class SSKs, I would think the engineering nous of that program has well and truly moved on. Even if we could build 20 quickly, who would crew them?
If we do nothing and be peaceful, we risk what happened to the Dutch in the East Indies in WWII, for the military expansion to our north is real and enormous.
Yep total shit show, thanks Abbott and Morrison....
Still the only reason I reckon we have to fear China is because of out alliance and provocation in South China Sea.
Cannot see point of them invading or attempting to Australia. They get the resources they need via trade.
But could see us getting dragged into a US led war.
Saying that get our defence in order, but not with attack subs run by USA coomand especially in today's environment.
Anyway just beating the same old drum...
The reason I said most of our new GP’s are coming from places like Iran is because
Iranians are the leading applicants at my wife’s surgery where she works.
Places like Iran and India and Pakistan etc etc…but the biggest amount of applicants are Iranian.
Also they cannot practise alone for 12 months while the other GP’s re train them in our procedures.and cultural values.
So another 12 months lost.
My point to the know alls is that why not train 5000 new Australian doctors for free.
1 billion from the new 17 billion addition to Medicare and we will be good to go..
We also have a. Lot of applicants from Ireland , New Zealand and the UK, but the regionals are getting a lot of middle eastern applicants with very different cultural values toward women etc etc as an example.
Seems an easy fix to me ….train smart Aussie young people free.
I work with an Iranian, and my mate married one, generally 'ours' call themselves Persian and came here to escape politics and religious crap. Particularly women. It strengthens Aus, having different cultures from around the globe on our red dirt. i.e. 100 000 proud aussies in western sydney were born in china. that gives us way more strength and regional relevance through globalised complexity than any sub defence and trade agreement ever could.
@fitzroy -21 , I hear your frustration and anger at the system that’s in place and it really sucks when you get penalised for trying to have a go and get ahead . I will always love Australia but it is over taxed and over governed. It’s actually nice to be away from all the bullshit that comes with living in the lucky country . I live in a openly corrupt society now and face discrimination for being a bule but I can live with that .
andy-mac wrote:Yep total shit show, thanks Abbott and Morrison....
Still the only reason I reckon we have to fear China is because of out alliance and provocation in South China Sea.
Cannot see point of them invading or attempting to Australia. They get the resources they need via trade.
But could see us getting dragged into a US led war.Saying that get our defence in order, but not with attack subs run by USA coomand especially in today's environment.
Anyway just beating the same old drum...
Agree that we should get defences in order. Our own missiles, A2/AD is important, though we talk subs.
When it comes to having nothing to fear from China, perhaps rather than looking to divine their intentions, just look at what equipment they have recently built, and what it is capable of doing, and go from there? Eg. The carrier groups and big deck amphibious ships, which are being built in scale, provide a capability to overpower an air defence system and land forces. From that realisation, one can begin to plan how to respond.
basesix wrote:I work with an Iranian, and my mate married one, generally 'ours' call themselves Persian and came here to escape politics and religious crap. Particularly women. It strengthens Aus, having different cultures from around the globe on our red dirt. i.e. 100 000 proud aussies in western sydney were born in china. that gives us way more strength and regional relevance through globalised complexity than any sub defence and trade agreement ever could.
It comes with both positives and negatives, as this example from the UK shows:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/03/22/there-is-no-reason-for-peopl...
Optimist wrote:The reason I said most of our new GP’s are coming from places like Iran is because
Iranians are the leading applicants at my wife’s surgery where she works.
Places like Iran and India and Pakistan etc etc…but the biggest amount of applicants are Iranian.
Also they cannot practise alone for 12 months while the other GP’s re train them in our procedures.and cultural values.
So another 12 months lost.
My point to the know alls is that why not train 5000 new Australian doctors for free.
1 billion from the new 17 billion addition to Medicare and we will be good to go..
We also have a. Lot of applicants from Ireland , New Zealand and the UK, but the regionals are getting a lot of middle eastern applicants with very different cultural values toward women etc etc as an example.
Seems an easy fix to me ….train smart Aussie young people free.
Good idea. Also extend it to other medical roles, nursing, surgical, paramedic, pharmacy, laboratory - give young Aussies a hand up.
True b6
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velocityjohnno wrote:Optimist wrote:The reason I said most of our new GP’s are coming from places like Iran is because
Iranians are the leading applicants at my wife’s surgery where she works.
Places like Iran and India and Pakistan etc etc…but the biggest amount of applicants are Iranian.
Also they cannot practise alone for 12 months while the other GP’s re train them in our procedures.and cultural values.
So another 12 months lost.
My point to the know alls is that why not train 5000 new Australian doctors for free.
1 billion from the new 17 billion addition to Medicare and we will be good to go..
We also have a. Lot of applicants from Ireland , New Zealand and the UK, but the regionals are getting a lot of middle eastern applicants with very different cultural values toward women etc etc as an example.
Seems an easy fix to me ….train smart Aussie young people free.Good idea. Also extend it to other medical roles, nursing, surgical, paramedic, pharmacy, laboratory - give young Aussies a hand up.
I once had a skin cancer on my ear .
and in my travels.2 Australian GPs
miss diagnosed it as non carcinogenic,
but the next GP I went to was a young
Indian doctor, who diagnosed it as a non malignant skin cancer which had to be removed. ,
and he was correct. This was all in regional Australia.
That’s why I’m not racist, but see the need for Australians to get jobs too .
(^ that started like a mildly dark AA Milne poem @jef..)
Don't be scared @VJ. People are great. And raising awareness of world issues is good too. The Telegraph is a Tory workhorse, but yeh, Britain is in a volatile neighbourhood with its own probs, no doubt...
We in Aus are unique. We are pretty cool.
gloomers down south, hotheads to the north,
oldest living culture in the background,
fucking weirdos everywhere in between.
and half those weirdos are newbies from weirdo countries.
The minute you start thinking your neighbours are probably arseholes, go meet them. They may well be arseholes, they may be great. But only OLD (by choice) people and FARKING nongs look at news articles and SUSPECT 'the other' is causing troubles. In my experience, it's people carrying on about 'australian culture' that are fucking annoying and stupid, and look like scared little pinheads when faced with an unfamiliar/ robust cultural experience, and realise their idea of culture is owning an esky and a ute; giving their kid a pissy 18th; giving themself a pissy Jan 26th; and getting sad when they hear 'how to make gravy'. We have access to ALL of our cultures, to everything. Good on those that have researched/embraced their own and others, but many have neglected their traditions for shallow fuck all. Our nannas would weep.
I mean, good on those who have embraced an absence of culture.
You can do it in Oz. Some find freedom in that. Each to their own.
^ cheers @jellytears (should get that looked at):
"These simple lines be good for your health
To keep them crime rhymes on the shelf
Live love life like you just don't care
Five thousand leaders never scared
"Bring the Noise" it's 'the moment they feared'
Get up! Still a beautiful idea
Throw yo hands in the air
Get up and show no fear
Get up if y'all really care
PE 20 years
Now get up"
Definitely sounds like an intro for
Courtney Barnett and Billy Bragg
Do the Velvet Underground
Just finished watching Duttons speech.
I thought he covered everything really well….make sure you hear it.
A lot of vision for the future there unlike labor’s more of the same budget.
Cheap secure East coast gas supply, cheaper fuel, 25% reduction in migration,
Kids to use super to buy a house, millions into charities to help feed and home people…..law and order returned.
Big focus on the battlers and the poor…..things Labor used to care about
Duttons speech..…all visionary solutions to help everyone…..liked it….liked it a lot.
It’s everything I’ve been thinking and been concerned about.
fitzroy-21 wrote:I am actually fed up with this country, it's governing bodies and all the stupid laws and legislation.
My wife and I decided to work as much as we could and do as much overtime as possible to get ahead and ease the financial burden, get a few nicer things, give the kids better schooling. But oh no, we have just gone into the next tax bracket, the ATO wants more, we have to let our health insurance know as we have now gone into the next tier of rebate, so now we are effectively worse off in the pocket because we tried to "work harder and do better". Ok, let's offset that and pour more into our superannuation. Nope, there is a fucking cap on that as well. Fuck you the taxpayer. Where's the fucking incentive. It is an absolute joke.
But hey, we are the government, lets talk about dying salmon, or nuclear power, or 6 months of electricity relief, or yet another fucking royal commission into something there was a royal commission about 5 years ago and we did sweet fuckall about. Fuck the tax payer. they are funding all this. And while we are at it , let's give ourselves another pay rise whilst we argue about the cost of living crisis ordinary Australians face on a daily basis.
Yep, shit and shit lite. Which is which?? Same shit, different arsehole.
i feel ya fitz,
although i dont understand the proper ins&outs of politics , i feel like as long as the 2 major parties rule the roost , we the ordinary everyday people will continually be reemed .
how does this change ??
Island Bay wrote:CGT on your own house is awful. Although not as bad as the fools advocating for 100% inheritance tax (The Guardian); that's just cruel and evil and against all human nature.
CGT is only if you sell a second house that’s not your usual place of residence I thought, not the not you primarily live in?
That sounds like I’m all for it, which I’m 100% not.
I feel your frustration @fitz.
Cheers for the explanation, Moonah. Somewhat less awful, then :-)
Optimist wrote:Just finished watching Duttons speech.
I thought he covered everything really well….make sure you hear it.
A lot of vision for the future there unlike labor’s more of the same budget.
Cheap secure East coast gas supply, cheaper fuel, 25% reduction in migration,
Kids to use super to buy a house, millions into charities to help feed and home people…..law and order returned.
Big focus on the battlers and the poor…..things Labor used to care about
Duttons speech..…all visionary solutions to help everyone…..liked it….liked it a lot.
It’s everything I’ve been thinking and been concerned about.
Did he offer to lend any battlers some money from the $300m he made from his dodgey home affairs contracts?
He’s a grub who’s in politics to get rich.
Look into mate, seriously.
Haha Opti.
Ditto could come out and say that it’s free spankings on Sundays after church and you’d say it was visionary.
Have you ever voted anything but conservative?
Might as well put this up in the politics subforum, to spare the front page. It's 18 months away or so, but here we go.
This is how Dutton wins:
https://www.afr.com/politics/enter-the-liberal-party-working-class-heroe...