Australia - you're standing in it
andy-mac wrote:This is our good ally, who we just gave some free money to for some subs that will likely never eventuate.
Now they bend us over with tarrifs after their corporations having been raping paying minimal or no tax for our resources for years.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-12/trump-rejects-australia-s-bid-for...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9oSEO8JxS8s&pp=ygUZZnJpZW5kbHlqb3JkaWVzIGF...
Good work Australia.
Trumps "advisor" Peter Navarro, was convicted and sentenced to jail time for his role in trying to secure more votes for Trump in the 2020 election.
I believe he was pardoned by Trump.
As for the "Friendly Jordies" video: no surprises there.
The good old LNP, the mining industry's best mate at the expense of every taxpayer.
As for Gorton's appearance, I understand he flew Hurricanes in Indonesia in WW2. He crash landed and his face struck the gunsight resulting in serious injuries. Apparently he didn't fully tighten his harness.
There is a family rumor I can't confirm that my grandfather spent some time working for Gorton's parents on their property at Mystic Park.
andy-mac wrote:Doesn't WA keep a share of its natural gas for local use?
This may be a factor?
It does, but that hasn't stopped Alcoa, and BP at Kwinana closing refining:
https://acapmag.com.au/2020/10/bp-to-close-was-kwinana-fuel-refinery/
A Salty Dog wrote:WA does have a gas reservation policy.
The Turnbull government introduced a reservation policy to supply east coast Australia, however it has never been enforced.
Morrison was happy to have Forrest build an import terminal at Port Kembla at a cost of one billion, so we can import gas we exported and pay double the price we sold it for. Two other import terminals are also under construction. How smart is that!!!
I can understand Albo not enforcing the reservation policy given the investment Forrest and others made building the import terminals.
Watch the price of gas rise once the terminals come on line.
Well done again LNP.
Not quite true - it was both sides of politics that completely screwed energy for the east coast. Kudos to Turnbull for creating an east coast domestic gas reservation trigger, which has sadly not been used.
https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2025/01/australia-nears-gas-disaster/
"In 2013, Labor Resources Minister Gary Grey made the unfortunate decision to allow the Gladstone liquified natural gas (LNG) terminals to be developed without the need to reserve gas for domestic users.
“Let me say very clearly, a reservation policy could not lead to lower gas prices or more gas”, Grey told reporters at the time.
“Calls for intervention in the market only serve to dampen any appetite for the very investment that’s needed to bring on new gas supplies”, according to him.
“We must allow our markets to respond as they are intended to do”.
Grey also denied that gas prices were rising as a result of the significant expansion of LNG facilities on the east coast, arguing that a gas price spike would occur “irrespective of the development of the east coast LNG industry”.
Gray’s decision not to reserve gas for domestic use came in reaction to lobbying by big gas producers Santos and Origin, who resisted pleas from the manufacturing industry to reserve gas for domestic consumption.
Manufacturing Australia warned that the projected tripling of gas exports by 2017 could result in price spikes and shortages, potentially costing 200,000 jobs and reducing GDP by $28 billion annually.
As a result, Manufacturing Australia wanted a national interest test on exports, along with the reservation of gas for domestic use.
However, Santos and Origin reject the plan, claiming that domestic reservation would keep it underground and stifle economic growth.
A spokesman for Federal Resources Minister Gary Grey also stated that the government did not believe that a gas reservation scheme would keep prices low.
“In the government’s view, it will create uncertainty and deter investment in new gas supply”, the spokesman said.
The rest is history. The Gladstone LNG export plants went online, resulting in almost three-quarters of East Coast gas being exported, primarily to China."
A Salty Dog wrote:andy-mac wrote:velocityjohnno wrote:Surprising we've got any aluminium production left with our energy input costs and energy policies. Who is left? Alcoa at Portland, the plant down on the Derwent using hydro Tas power, anyone else? Geelong lost it's aluminium plant some years ago, now this:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-01-10/alcoa-alumina-refinery-shutdown-t...
Doesn't WA keep a share of its natural gas for local use?
This may be a factor?WA does have a gas reservation policy.
The Turnbull government introduced a reservation policy to supply east coast Australia, however it has never been enforced.
Morrison was happy to have Forrest build an import terminal at Port Kembla at a cost of one billion, so we can import gas we exported and pay double the price we sold it for. Two other import terminals are also under construction. How smart is that!!!
I can understand Albo not enforcing the reservation policy given the investment Forrest and others made building the import terminals.
Watch the price of gas rise once the terminals come on line.
Well done again LNP.
Can we all just get off the Gas ? It’s old school, it’s a dirty fossil fuel atmospheric choker.
Pump the money into the largest thermonuclear reactor on Earth, it’s above our heads, the Sun. Gotta get over this going back to old energy sources habit, they’re finished . Time to move along folks, nothing to see here, except for the GAS . Fuck it off for good,…please. AW
The world’s first artificial heart is a success.
Made by a guy in qld.
The prototype used parts from Bunnings.
Don’t ya love Australians….and Bunnings.
We’ve gifted the US billions for AUKUS, who by the way are now going to shaft us.
We’ve given this money to proliferate the manufacturing of more weapons and craft that bear them, inadvertently killing people across the globe.
Why can’t we sink billions into Solar Energy operations that’ll help stop the killing of species. It’s an utter disgrace the current global rates of extinction, per capita we are one of the worst offenders. Time to be the ‘Smart Country’ not the ‘ Lucky Country’. Because at the moment, we are the ‘Not So Lucky Country’ across all contexts. Get Smart, or we will miss it by that….much. AW
I agree with this. I don't like the author, he's a populist, but I do agree with this article.
https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/chinas-iron-ore-blackhole-ignored-in-a...
flollo wrote:I agree with this. I don't like the author, he's a populist, but I do agree with this article.
https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/chinas-iron-ore-blackhole-ignored-in-a...
Flollo. Hi pal.
Interesting indeed. We will always be the ‘undercard’. AW
AlfredWallace wrote:A Salty Dog wrote:andy-mac wrote:velocityjohnno wrote:Surprising we've got any aluminium production left with our energy input costs and energy policies. Who is left? Alcoa at Portland, the plant down on the Derwent using hydro Tas power, anyone else? Geelong lost it's aluminium plant some years ago, now this:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-01-10/alcoa-alumina-refinery-shutdown-t...
Doesn't WA keep a share of its natural gas for local use?
This may be a factor?WA does have a gas reservation policy.
The Turnbull government introduced a reservation policy to supply east coast Australia, however it has never been enforced.
Morrison was happy to have Forrest build an import terminal at Port Kembla at a cost of one billion, so we can import gas we exported and pay double the price we sold it for. Two other import terminals are also under construction. How smart is that!!!
I can understand Albo not enforcing the reservation policy given the investment Forrest and others made building the import terminals.
Watch the price of gas rise once the terminals come on line.
Well done again LNP.
Can we all just get off the Gas ? It’s old school, it’s a dirty fossil fuel atmospheric choker.
Pump the money into the largest thermonuclear reactor on Earth, it’s above our heads, the Sun. Gotta get over this going back to old energy sources habit, they’re finished . Time to move along folks, nothing to see here, except for the GAS . Fuck it off for good,…please. AW
Agreed AW,
But it will be around for some time as a backup until renewables and batteries can guarantee a continuous supply.
We should be much further down the path to 100% renewables but we all know who has frustrated their roll out.
Cheers!
Optimist wrote:The world’s first artificial heart is a success.
Made by a guy in qld.
The prototype used parts from Bunnings.
Don’t ya love Australians….and Bunnings.
Read that. Absolutely epic, will save lives.
Got to love the artificial heart story
pretty impressive, only temporary and made me think of those who will be able to afford the eXXy stop-gap fix, but a step in the right direction, I guess, if we're brave-new-elon-Marsing in 1,000 years,
The "I can't believe it's not politics" thread.