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factotum started the topic in Thursday, 27 Aug 2020 at 11:12am

Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank

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etarip Tuesday, 4 Feb 2025 at 2:11pm

I’ve got a mate that works as a security consultation / advisor to a bunch of USAID programs globally. US company, but he’s UK-based. He’s regularly in a lot of pretty hairy places. Haiti, a bunch of African states, Ukraine.
From his perspective, the work being done in these varied locations is ‘good’ work; appreciated by the locals, sensitive to requirements, helps build better governance into local security, helps deliver important programs, and builds a lot of credit for the US. At the moment they’re faced with ‘chaos’ as the result of the Trump EO. Lack of certainty, not sure if they’re going to need to lay off hundreds of workers.
My mate is a conservative, btw.

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Supafreak Tuesday, 4 Feb 2025 at 2:19pm

“Trump time “ I like that , is it similar to Bali time ? , Trump speak is the difficult part to interpret , is it similar to the Balinese ‘ you pay extra ‘ The war on drugs is an interesting one. The drug problem needs cleaning up but like you said, the drugs will keep coming . People take drugs for a variety of reasons , usually to change the way they feel and temporarily escape from their circumstances . Until governments address the core issues, there will always be a demand for drugs .

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A Salty Dog Tuesday, 4 Feb 2025 at 2:31pm
burleigh wrote:
A Salty Dog wrote:
adam12 wrote:

The "trade war"on drugs is going to be about as effective as the original Reagan "war" on drugs.

Trump can start a trade war with his neighbors.
Declare the cartels terrorists and send in the Seals and eliminate all the cartel leadership it can.
Force China to stop the precursors.

The drugs will not stop coming.

Meanwhile while everyone's attention is being diverted, Trump has sacked the auditors and removed all the disclosure laws.
The greatest robbery in history is about to take place.
And no one will know.

Trump declares war on drugs but pardons a convicted drug dealer. That makes sense.

And maybe Canada should invade Alaska: just for fun!

You talking about Ross Ulbricht?

He's the one.

Regardless of whether you think his sentence was excessive or not, his pardon is at odds with "The Don's' war on drugs.

I mean you have to set an example as a deterrent.

Or was his pre election commitment to pardon Ulbricht just a scheme to shore up a few more votes?

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burleigh Tuesday, 4 Feb 2025 at 2:43pm
A Salty Dog wrote:
burleigh wrote:
A Salty Dog wrote:
adam12 wrote:

The "trade war"on drugs is going to be about as effective as the original Reagan "war" on drugs.

Trump can start a trade war with his neighbors.
Declare the cartels terrorists and send in the Seals and eliminate all the cartel leadership it can.
Force China to stop the precursors.

The drugs will not stop coming.

Meanwhile while everyone's attention is being diverted, Trump has sacked the auditors and removed all the disclosure laws.
The greatest robbery in history is about to take place.
And no one will know.

Trump declares war on drugs but pardons a convicted drug dealer. That makes sense.

And maybe Canada should invade Alaska: just for fun!

You talking about Ross Ulbricht?

He's the one.

Regardless of whether you think his sentence was excessive or not, his pardon is at odds with "The Don's' war on drugs.

I mean you have to set an example as a deterrent.

Or was his pre election commitment to pardon Ulbricht just a scheme to shore up a few more votes?

i have no issue with his pardon as i believe his sentence was excessive, but i also believe he was pardoned for a few more votes.

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Hiccups Tuesday, 4 Feb 2025 at 2:55pm

Anyone wanting to continue their charade of being bipartisan might wanna consider not providing links to TwittX

edit: lol at elon calling FB and Instagram liberal echo chambers.

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andy-mac Tuesday, 4 Feb 2025 at 2:53pm
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burleigh Tuesday, 4 Feb 2025 at 3:22pm
Hiccups wrote:

Anyone wanting to continue their charade of being bipartisan might wanna consider not providing links to TwittX

edit: lol at elon calling FB and Instagram liberal echo chambers.

In other news that never happened........

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velocityjohnno Tuesday, 4 Feb 2025 at 3:40pm
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4. The US has allowed its manufacturing base to be destroyed by globalization mongers for three decades. China has done the opposite, as have other countries, and now the US has a $1 trillion a year trade deficit, while the globalization mongers laughed all the way to the bank.

5. It’s a scandal what happened, three decades of connivance by the US government and Corporate America to destroy the manufacturing base so that corporate profit margins could fatten, while the most important economic sector – manufacturing – with its huge primary, secondary, and tertiary impact on employment, wages, household incomes, tax receipts, knowhow, infrastructure, etc. was shifted to overseas locations. That this was encouraged to happen was a huge scandal that spanned across both political parties. And those idiots are still spreading the same BS today."

Despite his tactics at least Trump is saying he wants to bring back manufacturing to the US. Contrast that with Australian politicians who consistently say we are a "service based economy" meaning that basically they have zero ambition for any manufacturing base in this country

Yep, Australia looks at US and says "Hold my beer, I can do better, watch me end my car industry and its downstream suppliers and career opportunities for my graduates; reduce all my oil refineries to just 2 remaining, there goes my last plastics manufacturer; watch me fall into bottom 1/3 of the world's countries in economic complexity; watch me export my gas for peanuts and deny my east coast a reservation as the only major exporter who does this shutting more factories, now I'm trying to export my gas for peanuts then re-import it from the people I sold it to for market prices and then charge these prices to homes and any manufacturers left who haven't been asphyxiated yet."

US says, "Damn son."

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Hiccups Tuesday, 4 Feb 2025 at 3:42pm
burleigh wrote:
Hiccups wrote:

Anyone wanting to continue their charade of being bipartisan might wanna consider not providing links to TwittX

edit: lol at elon calling FB and Instagram liberal echo chambers.

In other news that never happened........

For possibly the first time ever, you're right! Savage indictment on that POS that I didn't question for one second whether that was real and I don't doubt for one second that he'll eventually do it. Just scrolled back through his account to see if it was a legit post. The things he says are so unhinged. hahhah. What a lunatic.

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Exxotixjeff Tuesday, 4 Feb 2025 at 3:50pm
Supafreak wrote:
adam12 wrote:

The "trade war"on drugs is going to be about as effective as the original Reagan "war" on drugs.

Trump can start a trade war with his neighbors.
Declare the cartels terrorists and send in the Seals and eliminate all the cartel leadership it can.
Force China to stop the precursors.

The drugs will not stop coming.

Meanwhile while everyone's attention is being diverted, Trump has sacked the auditors and removed all the disclosure laws.
The greatest robbery in history is about to take place.
And no one will know.

I think you just gave jeffy a chubby.

Why do you keep mentioning me
@ supafake
Your the one saying Trump is environmentally freindly , because flolo said so
Which is the most ludicrous thing, you could say
We still haven’t heard flolos response yet, so your comments look a bit weird man ???

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Exxotixjeff Tuesday, 4 Feb 2025 at 3:58pm
adam12 wrote:
Supafreak wrote:
adam12 wrote:

The "trade war"on drugs is going to be about as effective as the original Reagan "war" on drugs.

Trump can start a trade war with his neighbors.
Declare the cartels terrorists and send in the Seals and eliminate all the cartel leadership it can.
Force China to stop the precursors.

The drugs will not stop coming.

Meanwhile while everyone's attention is being diverted, Trump has sacked the auditors and removed all the disclosure laws.
The greatest robbery in history is about to take place.
And no one will know.

I think you just gave jeffy a chubby.

Jeez, thanks for that @Supa
Don't know whether to laugh or vomit.

....I think it's gonna be vomit.

Almost as funny asyour Billy Connelly ED joke

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velocityjohnno Tuesday, 4 Feb 2025 at 4:47pm
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sending Hulk Hogan as an envoy or something.

Dennis Rodman was conduit to North Korea, anything's possible!

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flollo Tuesday, 4 Feb 2025 at 5:18pm
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indo-dreaming Tuesday, 4 Feb 2025 at 5:53pm

I dont know how Trump keeps up with all the things he has going on, i cant keep up it's so overwhelming.

I guess the voters voted for change, they sure got it.

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Supafreak Tuesday, 4 Feb 2025 at 6:30pm
Exxotixjeff wrote:
Supafreak wrote:
adam12 wrote:

The "trade war"on drugs is going to be about as effective as the original Reagan "war" on drugs.

Trump can start a trade war with his neighbors.
Declare the cartels terrorists and send in the Seals and eliminate all the cartel leadership it can.
Force China to stop the precursors.

The drugs will not stop coming.

Meanwhile while everyone's attention is being diverted, Trump has sacked the auditors and removed all the disclosure laws.
The greatest robbery in history is about to take place.
And no one will know.

I think you just gave jeffy a chubby.

Why do you keep mentioning me
@ supafake
Your the one saying Trump is environmentally freindly , because flolo said so
Which is the most ludicrous thing, you could say
We still haven’t heard flolos response yet, so your comments look a bit weird man ???

It’s that time of day ( when isn’t it ) when jeffy just starts making shit up , you need to up the meds son .

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adam12 Tuesday, 4 Feb 2025 at 6:39pm
flollo wrote:

Trump is staying busy. Deals happening all over the place

https://x.com/nayibbukele/status/1886606794614587573

https://x.com/nayibbukele/status/1886568753196098039

https://x.com/nayibbukele/status/1886059275174506850

Er, ahem, sorry @flollo
Tweet one, El Salvador offers to take US criminals into it's prisons.
Sorry Mr. Rubio, should have read your Constitution.
Can't happen.
More bullshit.
Tweet two, a photo of Mr Rubio and the El Salvadorian PM.
That's big news. Are they discussing the prisoner deal that will never happen?
Tweet three, "Philosopher King"@Nyib Bukele tries to tell me countries don't want USAID, because something about corruption, they prefer to not get given money at all.
Right.
Gotta lot of respect for you @flollo,
but FMD,
That was a nothingburger Trump arse kiss post.
Sorry.

This deal art shit, Canada, Trump has caved and postponed the tariffs while millions worth of goods were already removed from Canadian shelves, and in return Canada agrees to continue commitments already made under Biden.
He's a fucking artist alright.
Not so much the deals, but the bullshit, world class.

And the cult will continue to extrapolate on the genius behind the apparent fucking idiot.

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quadzilla Tuesday, 4 Feb 2025 at 6:42pm
Supafreak wrote:
Exxotixjeff wrote:
Supafreak wrote:
adam12 wrote:

The "trade war"on drugs is going to be about as effective as the original Reagan "war" on drugs.

Trump can start a trade war with his neighbors.
Declare the cartels terrorists and send in the Seals and eliminate all the cartel leadership it can.
Force China to stop the precursors.

The drugs will not stop coming.

Meanwhile while everyone's attention is being diverted, Trump has sacked the auditors and removed all the disclosure laws.
The greatest robbery in history is about to take place.
And no one will know.

I think you just gave jeffy a chubby.

Why do you keep mentioning me
@ supafake
Your the one saying Trump is environmentally freindly , because flolo said so
Which is the most ludicrous thing, you could say
We still haven’t heard flolos response yet, so your comments look a bit weird man ???

It’s that time of day ( when isn’t it ) when jeffy just starts making shit up , you need to up the meds son .

Go easy on Jeffy, it's a SHE!....It's been carrying on like an unhinged female forever.

How do I know, I found her YouTube channel!

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flollo Tuesday, 4 Feb 2025 at 6:57pm
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flollo Tuesday, 4 Feb 2025 at 7:06pm
adam12 wrote:
flollo wrote:

Trump is staying busy. Deals happening all over the place

https://x.com/nayibbukele/status/1886606794614587573

https://x.com/nayibbukele/status/1886568753196098039

https://x.com/nayibbukele/status/1886059275174506850

Er, ahem, sorry @flollo
Tweet one, El Salvador offers to take US criminals into it's prisons.
Sorry Mr. Rubio, should have read your Constitution.
Can't happen.
More bullshit.
Tweet two, a photo of Mr Rubio and the El Salvadorian PM.
That's big news. Are they discussing the prisoner deal that will never happen?
Tweet three, "Philosopher King"@Nyib Bukele tries to tell me countries don't want USAID, because something about corruption, they prefer to not get given money at all.
Right.
Gotta lot of respect for you @flollo,
but FMD,
That was a nothingburger Trump arse kiss post.
Sorry.

This deal art shit, Canada, Trump has caved and postponed the tariffs while millions worth of goods were already removed from Canadian shelves, and in return Canada agrees to continue commitments already made under Biden.
He's a fucking artist alright.
Not so much the deals, but the bullshit, world class.

And the cult will continue to extrapolate on the genius behind the apparent fucking idiot.

Mate, relax. I’m between laughing and crying in this whole situation. One thing I’m not though is bored. It’s a freaking propaganda. I couldn’t care less if they would send prisoners to El Salvador. What does that change? Nothing. Deal is meaningless but ego boosting/bragging opportunity is massive. That’s the point, a bit of sarcasm doesn’t kill anyone. I can see Jeff fell on it on that ‘environmental’ crap I posted earlier.

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adam12 Tuesday, 4 Feb 2025 at 7:16pm
flollo wrote:
adam12 wrote:
flollo wrote:

Trump is staying busy. Deals happening all over the place

https://x.com/nayibbukele/status/1886606794614587573

https://x.com/nayibbukele/status/1886568753196098039

https://x.com/nayibbukele/status/1886059275174506850

Er, ahem, sorry @flollo
Tweet one, El Salvador offers to take US criminals into it's prisons.
Sorry Mr. Rubio, should have read your Constitution.
Can't happen.
More bullshit.
Tweet two, a photo of Mr Rubio and the El Salvadorian PM.
That's big news. Are they discussing the prisoner deal that will never happen?
Tweet three, "Philosopher King"@Nyib Bukele tries to tell me countries don't want USAID, because something about corruption, they prefer to not get given money at all.
Right.
Gotta lot of respect for you @flollo,
but FMD,
That was a nothingburger Trump arse kiss post.
Sorry.

This deal art shit, Canada, Trump has caved and postponed the tariffs while millions worth of goods were already removed from Canadian shelves, and in return Canada agrees to continue commitments already made under Biden.
He's a fucking artist alright.
Not so much the deals, but the bullshit, world class.

And the cult will continue to extrapolate on the genius behind the apparent fucking idiot.

Mate, relax. I’m between laughing and crying in this whole situation. One thing I’m not though is bored. It’s a freaking propaganda. I couldn’t care less if they would send prisoners to El Salvador. What does that change? Nothing. Deal is meaningless but ego boosting/bragging opportunity is massive. That’s the point, a bit of sarcasm doesn’t kill anyone. I can see Jeff fell on it on that ‘environmental’ crap I posted earlier.

Phew, good, sorry @flollo, thought you might have been drinking Mar A Lago koolaid there for a minute.

Just happened to stumble across the total amount of fentanyl seized at the Canadian US border last year.
Maybe I was wrong about this whole thing, maybe Trump knew what he was doing in fucking up trade with it's closest neighbor, it seems like a massive problem worthy of sending millions of citizens broke to fix it.
The staggering amount.....
19 kilos.

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Exxotixjeff Tuesday, 4 Feb 2025 at 7:21pm
etarip wrote:

I’ve got a mate that works as a security consultation / advisor to a bunch of USAID programs globally. US company, but he’s UK-based. He’s regularly in a lot of pretty hairy places. Haiti, a bunch of African states, Ukraine.
From his perspective, the work being done in these varied locations is ‘good’ work; appreciated by the locals, sensitive to requirements, helps build better governance into local security, helps deliver important programs, and builds a lot of credit for the US. At the moment they’re faced with ‘chaos’ as the result of the Trump EO. Lack of certainty, not sure if they’re going to need to lay off hundreds of workers.
My mate is a conservative, btw.

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flollo Tuesday, 4 Feb 2025 at 7:25pm

Yeah, I think you’re right. I read that somewhere too. I believe Trump is testing boundaries to see where the revenue opportunity is. His end game is income tax reduction and steeper he goes better he’ll look. Canada is an obvious choice as they can’t just stop trading with the US. And he can cause massive pain on their economy if he goes really hard.

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Exxotixjeff Tuesday, 4 Feb 2025 at 7:28pm
quadzilla wrote:
Supafreak wrote:
Exxotixjeff wrote:
Supafreak wrote:
adam12 wrote:

The "trade war"on drugs is going to be about as effective as the original Reagan "war" on drugs.

Trump can start a trade war with his neighbors.
Declare the cartels terrorists and send in the Seals and eliminate all the cartel leadership it can.
Force China to stop the precursors.

The drugs will not stop coming.

Meanwhile while everyone's attention is being diverted, Trump has sacked the auditors and removed all the disclosure laws.
The greatest robbery in history is about to take place.
And no one will know.

I think you just gave jeffy a chubby.

Why do you keep mentioning me
@ supafake
Your the one saying Trump is environmentally freindly , because flolo said so
Which is the most ludicrous thing, you could say
We still haven’t heard flolos response yet, so your comments look a bit weird man ???

It’s that time of day ( when isn’t it ) when jeffy just starts making shit up , you need to up the meds son .

Go easy on Jeffy, it's a SHE!....It's been carrying on like an unhinged female forever.

How do I know, I found her YouTube channel!

You still haven’t come up with a point for your pointless comments
Please explain
Trump is environmentally friendly?
Are you sure you’ve been keeping your psychiatric appointments,
Doesn’t sound like it .
I think we need to get the Australian embassy in Jakarta to check on your welfare.