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burleigh wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:People power having peaceful protests
Plenty of Mexican and Canadian flagshttps://www.youtube.com/live/5Wt7JvCBX3Y?si=gDY-oDVnSHhaxJel
imagine protesting in a country you have entered illegally. Jeff logic 101
Generalised dick brain burlin
assume they’re all illegal immigrants
protesting,
Wow amazing
Maybe there’s actually white people and legal immigrants protesting on their behalf????
Exxotixjeff wrote:burleigh wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:People power having peaceful protests
Plenty of Mexican and Canadian flagshttps://www.youtube.com/live/5Wt7JvCBX3Y?si=gDY-oDVnSHhaxJel
imagine protesting in a country you have entered illegally. Jeff logic 101
Generalised dick brain burlin
assume they’re all illegal immigrants
protesting,
Wow amazing
Maybe there’s actually white people and legal immigrants protesting on their behalf????
Useful idiots we like to call them.
burleigh wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:People power having peaceful protests
Plenty of Mexican and Canadian flagshttps://www.youtube.com/live/5Wt7JvCBX3Y?si=gDY-oDVnSHhaxJel
imagine protesting in a country you have entered illegally. Jeff logic 101
Yeah I’m sure you enjoy calling them useful idiots, Burlin
Better than being a useless idiot, hey burls.
Canada to target US Republican states with retaliatory tariffs and sanctions
Trump obviously not worried but
Kentucky state governor Andy Beshear is worried about their Bourbon industry
which supplies 90 percent of the world’s Bourbon,
See Trumps tariffs are affecting you already?
sypkan wrote:I don't disagree roadkill
but where I differ from you, is I believe trumo and musk are in it for the right reasons
ie. they see the destruction of democrat party, and the unnecessary undermining of the US through decades of dogma that simply has not delivered on it's promises
I honestly think elon couldn't give a shit about the money, he has displayed this several times, both in terms of undermining his own investments with reckless abandon, and him living a relatively simple life
trump obviously cares about money and power, but I think he genuinely cares about his country too
if he (they) can inflict the pain early, and turn things around within their four year term, then another term is almost guaranteed...
especially considering the woeful - self imposed - position the democrats are 8n...
100% agree
Plus it's about legacy for both of them.
Drone Review is as long as it needs to be...can't help that...
Firstly timeline is dedicated to lost lives of innocents & tbb / swellnet has shared live tributes.
https://www.swellnet.com/forums/wax/319015?page=18
It is the biggest constant news during US Prez Switch...
Think this is tbb's 3rd go at this & also most open, neutral & thorough version.
There's way more than enough alarming Drone News available to shape any narrative ya choose...
But don't think for a minute just coz the size that this is mainstream...it's very much off grid...
Very reason tbb gathered it as US Govt/s Switch many Department heads & formats during the break.
tbb will share some Prez Statements were part censored or omitted by most media...
So...then Yes! Most of the Media wish to play this down or shape their own narrative!
Drone shitshow Kinda kicks in around here
Just as a solid (Example)
2019 US Sacramento Police Drone Trials
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/01/us-military-drone-ai-kil...
2024 : So now FAA ramp policy from Oz delivery / security trials
Into these Total annual Robo Cop 170 calls / 573 flights
Nov 2024 : First Pre positioned Police Surveillance Drone (6/day for 40 mins-3 lense /Spotlight/200ft)
Switch to Delivery Drones (Crew know Oz is leading in these Delivery Neighbourly perv trials)
Sept 2024 : 2 Amazon Drones 'Collide' mid air during Propeller Failure Tests
"The Simultaneous Operation of Test Flights was Identified as the "Main Trigger for the Accident"
14 Oct FAA grant first responders unsighted drone operation
https://www.police1.com/drones/navigating-the-latest-faa-drone-regulatio...
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Now! This here is the main game...
*Caretaker Mode / Midnight Regulation Affairs get relaxed > rubber stamped & fast tracked
Joe & FAA fear Election change to Trump so they go ape shit...every pet robot gets a Drone Licence.
Robot : "I don't even eat Cereal!"...Don't Matter You me & Every Kiddie can pilot a Mars Rover Drone
Companies bankroll Joe & FAA to fly ai Robot Drones up yer Arses & out yer ears...Go for it...
The objective is for FAA To sign off on as many Drone fast track trials for max gain..
Now it is said that FAA Director knew his number was up...so this is a full on gambit claim...let's Rock!
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Oct/Nov 2024 : Election Outcome forces FAA to fast track "Unsighted Drone Operation Approval"
Can now take down Space X rockets blindfolded from yer Toilet Seat with hands tied doing a #2..
FAA Expert BVLOS Killer Drone [L] on the side of CoCo pops Cereal Packs (Drone Invasion Begins)
Think that's a joke...this really happened...watch yer Nightly News over Xmas...
https://dronelife.com/2024/10/28/u-s-lawmakers-push-faa-for-timely-bvlos...
https://dronelife.com/2024/11/17/faas-bvlos-draft-rule-at-a-critical-cro...
14 Nov FAA grant Ai Robot drones to any public safety ngo just bring a thick wad..
...'a bit thicker than that'...but Hurry up...offer won't last forever!
https://www.police1.com/drones/navigating-the-latest-faa-drone-regulatio...
Nov/Dec 3,000+ Bus Sized US Drones Invasion over ALL US Cities + o/s US air Bases / Trump's Golf '.
Pentagon : "They're not Military Drones!"
Trump : Orders Nightly Drone Invasion of 3,000-5,000 to be Shot Down.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-12-14/new-jersey-new-york-drone-sightin...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_drone_sightings
https://www.reddit.com/r/drones/comments/1h6tuxf/any_thoughts_on_the_rec...
FAA Responding with several Bans ( Noting rise in Laser Pen incidents over same cities)
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/faa-banning-drone-flights-over-critical...
9 Dec : First Responder Robot Drones goin' out the door...apply now!
https://www.police1.com/drones/navigating-the-latest-faa-drone-regulatio...
Dec 2024 : Two more MK30 Trial Drones crashed at Pendleton Oregon due to Heavy Rain.
One of the 2 drones caught fire during impact...highlighting vulnerabilities in adverse conditions.
Dec : Orlando Drones collide & one mutilates & hospitalizes a 7 y/o boy
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/florida/articles/2024-12-23/faa-...
2025 FAA Aviation Bizarre Drone Shit Show (Continues)
3 Jan 2025: US commerce consider banning ALL Chinese Drones
https://aviationweek.com/aerospace/aircraft-propulsion/us-mulls-banning-...
3 Jan : FAA Expert Drone Robot with Cereal Pack Licence to Fly over Balitimore City Folk.
https://ir.ondas.com/press-releases/detail/187/ondas-american-robotics-s...
This seems innocent enough > Possibly backdoors Balitimore Stadium Drone Flyovers (Very Sneaky)
tbb reads this daft FAA Baltimore rubberstamp as a VIP NFL Corp Yuppie Superbowl 'reserved trial access'
Stadiums have been onto FAA to stop these Drone Flovers...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nfl/article-14255655/NFL-fans-Ravens-S...
6 Jan 2025 : FAA Robots pilot Micro Booster Drones inside Kamekaze Pilots Brains or some shit.
Just close yer eyes...it'll be fine...
https://dronelife.com/2025/01/06/ondas-american-robotics-secures-faa-wai...
9 Jan Drone punches a hole in wing of Palisades Fire > Canadian Water Scooper (Out for 5 days)
13 Jan DJI remove all geo fencing on ALL FAA Restricted No Fly Zones (Airports are Free for All)
(See above story) > Claims this led to that Drone inadvertently flying into Live Emergency Precinct
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/dji-will-no-longer-block-us-users-from-flying...
https://au.pcmag.com/drones/109291/dji-ditches-geofencing-for-drones-add...
Pause : Removal of DJI Geo Fence > Drones now invade Highest security precincts
We're talking " Emergency / Airports / Rocket Launch Pads / Defence / Prez / Whitehouse"
Y'all got that...US Yuppies are flying Drones into Highest security precincts with Zero Retribution!
13 Jan Blue Origin Rocket Launch called off at last minute due to "A few Tech Anomalies"
16 Jan First Responder Special Robot Drone Deals...New Cereal Pack Waivers
https://www.police1.com/drones/navigating-the-latest-faa-drone-regulatio...
17 Jan Space X Starship Explodes during Takeoff Launch (Emergency : Gulf of USA Air Traffic Diverted)
18 Jan FAA say Virginia Wallmart Robot Drones can now upskirt UFO's in 6 states
https://www.accessnewswire.com/newsroom/en/aerospace-and-defense/droneup...
20 Jan (Enough) Trump fires FAA Director (Resigns) Over Musk Conflicts
21 Jan Keeping Americans Safe in Aviation ( Exploiting DEI )
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/keeping-american...
21 Jan ATC Hiring Freeze
22 Jan Aviation Safety Advisory Committee disbanded
24 Jan Amazon Suspends Prime Air Drone Trial in Texas and Arizona after spate of Trial Drone crashes
* These incidents (Above) not only exposed tech failures!
* But also Operational Challenges in Managing Complex Fleets!
* Amazon will ensure safer & more efficient performance with Critical Software Updates
* Current priority Focus on "Adverse Conditions Navigation" + "Multi Flight Coordination"
https://www.drivingeco.com/mark-zuckerberg-revive-facebook-original-2025...
28 Jan : Amazon simply continue the trial in UK
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g79374wz1o
28 Jan Trump Offers FAA Payouts / Retirement demands sent to Employees
28 Jan Drone Invasion Recap
https://envzone.com/the-growing-concern-over-mysterious-drone-sightings/
28 Jan 2025 Trump Whitehouse Statement {Big City Air Precinct Drone fleets} (Not an Invasion)
"FAA research Drones were flown for various other reason, in time, it got worse due to curiosity!"
"This was not the Enemy!"
28/29 Jan FAA Doubles Up (Fark!) Unmanned Drone height security trials from 200ft > 400ft
https://www.unmannedairspace.info/latest-news-and-information/faa-grants...
29 Jan Night Collision of Chopper/Plane at very same scene of FAA Mass Nightly Drone Trials
Trump sackings don't matter FAA keep Rubber stamping Free Permits to any with money...on it goes.
Same again...selling off the Cart'n'wheels as they're being carted out...
31 Jan FAA approve Project Contractors ai Robot Pilots to Fly Drones over Large Constructions
Mega : Malls / Data Centres / Pipelines / Solar Farms / Stadiums etc
https://www.enr.com/articles/60244-dronedeploy-gets-faa-clearance-for-be...
31 Jan Trump blames FAA Diversity (tbb is calling complete BS > Trump is fucking with ya!)
Exact opposite is true : ATC is White 71% Men 78% (100% Able/Alert/Always)
ATC Radar would laser any Diverse loser approaching White Ass Honky VIP yuppie DC Tree House.
31 Jan declares No Fly Zone at Whitehouse DC Airport
https://www.transportation.gov/briefing-room/us-transportation-secretary...
31 Jan : Philadelphia Night Flight Takeoff plummets into City Mall FAA Drone invasion Streetscape
What was equally terrifying is how News were feasting off novice cams hawking the Flames...
Exactly the same as recent fires...all the novice operators are bossing Emergency frontline events.
Almost as if authorities no longer patrol the unfolding incident scene...
This alongside the Security Cams sharing unedited visuals...days later (Real!) Scary footage...
Seems like media are exploiting this caretaker / sacking period of undefined operational security
Like USA have been asleep at the Wheel as Trump is focused on Executive power over reality checks!
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/security-footage-shows-new-angles-of-d-c-c...
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31 Jan : US Media / bloggerz halfheartedly or rather feebly try to review FAA fucked up Drone Shitshow
+ See bonus article!
https://www.yahoo.com/news/drones-over-nj-why-didn-101251984.html
This blogger gets half serious from Mid Vid & questions there must be more to high risk FAA Drones...
So for reason this bloke has a crack...he gets a share...this Vid best warrants / companions tbb Timeline.
Plus the fact he's way more exciting than tbb's drab regulated timeline...
[12:40] No navigation lights revelation proves alarmingly relevant to respective Aviation crashes.
Bloody well frightening how he questions himself around the DC Disaster with such casual disbelief
Highly Recommend this Vid as he questions everything by exacting nature...so hats off to the boffin.
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Trump : Enough is Enough Already! Pulls the Plug on FAA Robot Drone Shitshow
Even after the mass FAA sackings
1st Feb Trump signs executive order to "Significantly" (Eliminate) All FAA BVLOS recent Approvals
https://x.com/NewsHour/status/1885493015956934932
https://x.com/dronelaws/status/1886051404592095545?mx=2
Are there more US Drone invasions planned?
Writes itself it does...tbb is just guessing a half decent promoter will pisstake the NFL drones
https://www.newsbreak.com/news/3782840759455-super-bowl-lix-will-be-no-d...
So yer saying there's this Superbowl half time song called drones...
Is somehow gonna trigger an Alien Drone Invasion...
Yeah! Like the aliens fly thru the Superbowl Stadium...hunting ya down...nowhere is safe!
Ok! So that all checks out tbb...Hard to tell whats ai anymore!
So think this is tbb's 3rd crack at this Drone Shitshow...
Getting a better handle on it each time...please be easy on tbb...
Mostly coz all are hiding & blurring the truth around FAA fast tracked Carefree Caretaker Drone trials.
So this Massive Fake Drone Invasion is massive news but Robot Drone Trial is the Star of the Show.
It is highly possible that dimly lit Robot Drones are skirting Busy US Airports as tbb writes this.
Yes! I agree with the Hodad in the Vid...it goes against FAA guidelines but it is what it is...a free for all!
Unless Trump calls off the Drones themselves...then we may sadly yet see more exempted tragedy.
Got an icky feeling FAA ain't the problem...the AI Robot drones are still running the show!
It seems these busybody downtown Robot Drones have high level immunity as X Robot car drivers!
tbb is saying...that ya can't get dirty hands from flushing yer killer ai robot drone down yer dunny
What can't be ruled out here...Creepy transition period trial exemption of Defence / Transit Authority.
We could be looking at Big Tech buying or bidding for Caretaker exemption Trial Periods...Sounds sick!
tbb is not prepared to rule that out as bosses timeline in {Bright Neon Lights}
Mind our Dodgy Trial Period...+ Both Prez Together... "Wot..I raised concern about the UFOs!"
FAA now reflects Defence in authorising & exempting Team USA / Israeli Drone Assassinations.
If yer loved one's Plane is struck down by a Pizza Drone...then expect a bill for the Cold Pizza Delivery!
No matter how many ways tbb puts it...Pretty sure all the crew instinctively know how this must end!
Crew already drew the same conclusion...All say Aye! Go Team USA! Luv these Guys!
1st Feb 2025 Bonus Downtown Drone Update...just became available for lucky crew...
Now yer all up to speed!
[ Is it time for US to have a Drone Czar]
https://www.newsweek.com/drones-czar-faa-experts-question-donald-trump-2...
indo-dreaming wrote:sypkan wrote:I don't disagree roadkill
but where I differ from you, is I believe trumo and musk are in it for the right reasons
ie. they see the destruction of democrat party, and the unnecessary undermining of the US through decades of dogma that simply has not delivered on it's promises
I honestly think elon couldn't give a shit about the money, he has displayed this several times, both in terms of undermining his own investments with reckless abandon, and him living a relatively simple life
trump obviously cares about money and power, but I think he genuinely cares about his country too
if he (they) can inflict the pain early, and turn things around within their four year term, then another term is almost guaranteed...
especially considering the woeful - self imposed - position the democrats are 8n...
100% agree
Plus it's about legacy for both of them.
Wow sounds like US Disneyland propaganda.
After years of being a known conman
Trump and his billionaire buddies have finally seen the light,
Praise the Lord everybody!
Trying not to post but I just can't resist with headlines like this
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-says-canada-would-have-no-tariffs...
Back in the cold war they had a run of really scary films (child abuse when viewed by impressionable little children like us) to show how horrific war is, the idea being get the population to stop and consider things. In the same vein, I offer this as a public service, to show just how horrible a US-Canada war could be - we can stop this if we just pause and consider:
I'm trying to find the DOGEcast, can't find a link. Elon's doing a podcast a bit like an earnings call, with all the spending they are reviewing and what they are finding.
They got permission, but the way they got to the payments system without resistance was the diabolical genius move of... working on the weekend.
Very few in the bureaucracy actually work the weekend, so it’s like the opposing team just leaves the field for 2 days!
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 1, 2025
Working the weekend is a superpower 😂 https://t.co/VgyBk1nJIO
old-dog wrote:Better than being a useless idiot, hey burls.
What's it like?
As far as I can tell from the above Fox News article it seems The Donald hasn’t TRUTHed anything in relation to where he thinks Canada’s 54 Electoral College votes would go? How the two Senators and 54 members of the HoR that “our Cherished 51st State” would be entitled to would vote? One presumes Canada would not be a MAGA red stronghold. More like another California. He might be thinking of giving California - and its 40 million Democrats - back to Mexico in order to compensate? Does French become joint official language of the U.S?
16 Nobel economists told us during the election,
That Trump getting elected would cause an inflation bomb ,
But Trump convinced you that experts
were the worst , and definitely shouldn’t be listened to.
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Exxotixjeff wrote:16 Nobel economists told us during the election,
That Trump getting elected would cause an inflation bomb ,
But Trump convinced you that experts
were the worst , and definitely shouldn’t be listened to.
Who are you talking to jeffy ? I don’t think there’s too many people on swellnet that voted in the US election .
Trump is an environmentally friendly president. He will kill consumption and trigger recession in Canada and Mexico. Days of excessive, single use goods purchases might be gone for awhile. Earth will respond positively. Thank you Trump in fighting climate change in the most meaningful way.
little justin is either;
kidding himself
bought by cartels
totally deranged
a slave to davos man
all of the above...
Supafreak wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:16 Nobel economists told us during the election,
That Trump getting elected would cause an inflation bomb ,
But Trump convinced you that experts
were the worst , and definitely shouldn’t be listened to.Who are you talking to jeffy ? I don’t think there’s too many people on swellnet that voted in the US election .
Well you just never know
What did happen to. @Wax 24
He probably lost his job and is living in the back of his Ute , underneath the interstate freeway!
flollo wrote:Trump is an environmentally friendly president. He will kill consumption and trigger recession in Canada and Mexico. Days of excessive, single use goods purchases might be gone for awhile. Earth will respond positively. Thank you Trump in fighting climate change in the most meaningful way.
Trump is environmentally friendly ???
What about the “drill. baby drill “ and the winding back of pesticide regulations.
And the Paris climate change accord, one of the first things he did to pull out of?
Trump is the least environmentally friendly president,
After immediately scrapping all of Bidens
Green energy initiatives.
“Climate Change is a hoax “ Donald Trump
Jeffy , wax24 is a psych nurse who voted democratic & flollo just played you like a fiddle . Have you thought about a 4 year cruise ?
A ceasefire has been called on Mexico . https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/economics/mexicos-president-says-tariff... Canada needs an alternative to Justin at the negotiating table . Trump doesn’t like him personally and that affects Trump’s decisions , as silly as it sounds .
Good unemotional write up about Tariffs here: https://wolfstreet.com/2025/02/03/what-trumps-tariffs-did-last-time-2018...
There's a lot of focus on Trump but Tariffs are everywhere including AUS and notably the EU (France in particular).
It's possible Trump wants Canada to open up to allow US Banks to operate there.
Who knows really, best to ignore it.
10 k Mexican troops sent to US border during Biden’s term.
10k Mexican troops sent to US border today.
Same same.
Mexico gave Trump a face saving moment. Nothing new as Mexico just gave Trump the same as they gave Biden.
Same same..but the spin will be all about Trump.
Supafreak wrote:A ceasefire has been called on Mexico . https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/economics/mexicos-president-says-tariff... Canada needs an alternative to Justin at the negotiating table . Trump doesn’t like him personally and that affects Trump’s decisions , as silly as it sounds .
Yep…Trudeau needs gone..for Trump it’s all personal..Canada can be collateral damage as it’s Trump vs Trudeau and Trump won’t give Trudeau anything.
That Mexican President is a smart woman. Far smarter than Trump will ever be. And she takes no shit from Trump and he respects that.
Tariffs will send Mexico into recession. It’s a tough place to be in. Trump is all sorts of stuff but he’s definitely not stupid. He will get what he wants, one way or another.
Roadkill wrote:Supafreak wrote:A ceasefire has been called on Mexico . https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/economics/mexicos-president-says-tariff... Canada needs an alternative to Justin at the negotiating table . Trump doesn’t like him personally and that affects Trump’s decisions , as silly as it sounds .
Yep…Trudeau needs gone..for Trump it’s all personal..Canada can be collateral damage as it’s Trump vs Trudeau and Trump won’t give Trudeau anything.
That Mexican President is a smart woman. Far smarter than Trump will ever be. And she takes no shit from Trump and he respects that.
I can see a joint effort in attempting to destroy the cartels, it’s going to get very bloody . That video indo put up had concerns about what the cartels could do on the US side of the border. Trump’s target on his back grows by the day .
Exxotixjeff wrote:Supafreak wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:16 Nobel economists told us during the election,
That Trump getting elected would cause an inflation bomb ,
But Trump convinced you that experts
were the worst , and definitely shouldn’t be listened to.Who are you talking to jeffy ? I don’t think there’s too many people on swellnet that voted in the US election .
Well you just never know
What did happen to. @Wax 24
He probably lost his job and is living in the back of his Ute , underneath the interstate freeway!
He got a parking space under that bridge right next to you in your Dutto 180B Uber model.
Supafreak wrote:Roadkill wrote:Supafreak wrote:A ceasefire has been called on Mexico . https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/economics/mexicos-president-says-tariff... Canada needs an alternative to Justin at the negotiating table . Trump doesn’t like him personally and that affects Trump’s decisions , as silly as it sounds .
Yep…Trudeau needs gone..for Trump it’s all personal..Canada can be collateral damage as it’s Trump vs Trudeau and Trump won’t give Trudeau anything.
That Mexican President is a smart woman. Far smarter than Trump will ever be. And she takes no shit from Trump and he respects that.
I can see a joint effort in attempting to destroy the cartels, it’s going to get very bloody . That video indo put up had concerns about what the cartels could do on the US side of the border. Trump’s target on his back grows by the day .
Yep. Massive target, 99% of media will trash him every day. Also, if tariffs don’t work the army will. He will send them into Mexico. I don’t know how you treat this move legally, he might need the congress approval. But there are some in congress who are advocating for this. I don’t think it will happen, tariffs will wreck the Mexican economy and they will have to show the initiative.
And a side note; all that doom and gloom in the markets and the US hardly sneezed last night. S&P is still around 6,000 with only -0.5% loss.
Almost seems that the Mexican president is the only adult in the room with all the Canadian politicians getting all macho and trying to out do Trump instead of addressing the issues behind his tariffs.
Interesting article and comments in @monkeyboys link. (I'll take it all at face value as I've no real idea as to the accuracy of what is being said but seems reasonable enough)
"The trade balance didn’t improve because Corporate America tried by hook or crook to subvert the tariffs, and they lobbied mightily to get exemptions, and were given exemptions, they routed trade through Vietnam to get around the China tariffs, etc. etc. Corporate America hates tariffs, billionaires hate tariffs, the billionaire-owned media hate tariffs, such as Murdoch’s WSJ, Barron’s, MarketWatch, Fox, etc., Bezo’s WaPo, Buffett’s newspaper empire (20?), Sulzberger family’s NY Times, etc. They all fought and will fight Trump tooth and nail on tariffs. Some of those billionaires are in Trump’s inner circle now, so we can be assured that the new crop of tariffs will also be subverted."
Regarding these comments, Chinese companies have already set up in Cambodia from last round of tariffs and there's already more looking into it again also I read an article saying Murdoch and others were in discussions with Trump and Tik Toc is possibly going to be held by a new Sovereign Wealth fund set to be created
"2. All countries ARE using tariffs, RTGDFA, and have been using tariffs against the US for eons.
3. China has big tariffs surrounding its protected industries, and US companies have to produce in China (in joint ventures and with required technology transfer and loss of IP) in order to sell in China. That’s how you develop and protect a manufacturing base.
4. The US has allowed its manufacturing base to be destroyed by globalization mongers for three decades. China has done the opposite, as have other countries, and now the US has a $1 trillion a year trade deficit, while the globalization mongers laughed all the way to the bank.
5. It’s a scandal what happened, three decades of connivance by the US government and Corporate America to destroy the manufacturing base so that corporate profit margins could fatten, while the most important economic sector – manufacturing – with its huge primary, secondary, and tertiary impact on employment, wages, household incomes, tax receipts, knowhow, infrastructure, etc. was shifted to overseas locations. That this was encouraged to happen was a huge scandal that spanned across both political parties. And those idiots are still spreading the same BS today."
Despite his tactics at least Trump is saying he wants to bring back manufacturing to the US. Contrast that with Australian politicians who consistently say we are a "service based economy" meaning that basically they have zero ambition for any manufacturing base in this country
Great share fliplid. I fully agree. On the point of 'China has big tariffs surrounding its protected industries, and US companies have to produce in China (in joint ventures and with required technology transfer and loss of IP) in order to sell in China. That’s how you develop and protect a manufacturing base.'
Not just that but China will directly subsidise a cheap product they will export to your country and kill your local manufacturing base. Trumps seems to be the first politician in decades willing to fight this. Tariffs are 100% required in many cases. I am against broad application (like % on everything) but some industries need to be protected. Wait till others come after him and eagerly remove the tariffs. Yeah right, same as Biden removed tariffs?
What do we have in Australia now? Nothing. Without government spending and hiring our country would be in a recession. Private capex is fuck all, especially if you take mining out. No one invests here with the exception of real estate/mining. Same old crap, asx are banks and mining with an odd retailer. Everything is gone.
It seems like Trump might be deliberately or not , weakening US allied countries , while strengthening US adversaries China and Russia
who are now ready to do deals with the allied countries that Trump has threatened .
So the Trump fans are right
Trump is doing good things in the world
for China ?
@Fliplid, @flollo
Manufacturing was shifted to Asia, under the guise of a "cheaper product" but as you said it was always about maximising profits.
Australia's problem is we are a small population (market), and despite transport costs on imports, we cannot compete while Asian labour is so cheap.
The export of our resources should have provided us with a substantial income via royalties and taxes but sadly our friends in the LNP adhered to the "trickle down economics" theory and gave our petroleum resources away. Nearly thirty years on and we are still waiting for something to trickle down.
As far as the stock market is concerned, both the ASX 200 and the S&P500 closed more than 2% below the highs achieved last Friday, prior to Trump opening his mouth. That is a substantial hit. It's been another good start to the reporting season in the US and both indexes would still be around those highs if not for Trump.
Cheers
Supafreak wrote:Jeffy , wax24 is a psych nurse who voted democratic & flollo just played you like a fiddle . Have you thought about a 4 year cruise ?
Yeah I was joking about Wax , in case you need a sense of humour
Although haven’t heard from him for a while
, but I don’t usually scroll back. too far ,
So anyone who states that Trump is environmental ally friendly should be agreed with or ignored ,
Sorry that is ignorance 101
Exxotixjeff wrote:Supafreak wrote:Jeffy , wax24 is a psych nurse who voted democratic & flollo just played you like a fiddle . Have you thought about a 4 year cruise ?
Yeah I was joking about Wax , in case you need a sense of humour
Although haven’t heard from him for a while
, but I don’t usually scroll back. too far ,
So anyone who states that Trump is environmental ally friendly should be agreed with or ignored ,
Sorry that is ignorance 101
The irony of this post when it comes to needing a sense of humour is pretty dam funny . Flollo is a good fisherman.
So you’re saying Flollo was joking
If so either way it’s a pretty irresponsible dumb ass statement to make.
Irony or no irony, it’s still very misleading,
But don’t let reality bother you.
Exxotixjeff wrote:So you’re saying Flollo was joking
If so either way it’s a pretty irresponsible dumb ass statement to make.
Irony or no irony, it’s still very misleading,
But don’t let reality bother you.
Jeffy talking about reality , more irony.
Now a ceasefire with Canada .
https://apnews.com/article/canada-trump-tariffs-ontario-musk-2bc1b52b039.... Is China next ?
Canada is implementing the plan it announced in December. With cosmetic additions.
Way to go. Sound and fury.
Canada will do as they are told by daddy Trump. Poor Jeff must be crying into his fruitloops this morning.
burleigh wrote:Canada will do as they are told by daddy Trump. Poor Jeff must be crying into his fruitloops this morning.
The invasion isn’t going to plan , Canada , Mexico & the US may end up teaming up to take on the cartels. If China stops the distribution they may also get a tariff pause . With panama now ceasing with the belt & road initiative , jeffy is going to need a lie down.
It’s almost like a very successful business man knows how to make deals. Weird
The "trade war"on drugs is going to be about as effective as the original Reagan "war" on drugs.
Trump can start a trade war with his neighbors.
Declare the cartels terrorists and send in the Seals and eliminate all the cartel leadership it can.
Force China to stop the precursors.
The drugs will not stop coming.
Meanwhile while everyone's attention is being diverted, Trump has sacked the auditors and removed all the disclosure laws.
The greatest robbery in history is about to take place.
And no one will know.
burleigh wrote:Canada will do as they are told by daddy Trump. Poor Jeff must be crying into his fruitloops this morning.
Is that what you took out of that little tantrum? Canada is doing what they’d already planned to do.
adam12 wrote:The "trade war"on drugs is going to be about as effective as the original Reagan "war" on drugs.
Trump can start a trade war with his neighbors.
Declare the cartels terrorists and send in the Seals and eliminate all the cartel leadership it can.
Force China to stop the precursors.The drugs will not stop coming.
Meanwhile while everyone's attention is being diverted, Trump has sacked the auditors and removed all the disclosure laws.
The greatest robbery in history is about to take place.
And no one will know.
Trump declares war on drugs but pardons a convicted drug dealer. That makes sense.
And maybe Canada should invade Alaska: just for fun!
adam12 wrote:The "trade war"on drugs is going to be about as effective as the original Reagan "war" on drugs.
Trump can start a trade war with his neighbors.
Declare the cartels terrorists and send in the Seals and eliminate all the cartel leadership it can.
Force China to stop the precursors.The drugs will not stop coming.
Meanwhile while everyone's attention is being diverted, Trump has sacked the auditors and removed all the disclosure laws.
The greatest robbery in history is about to take place.
And no one will know.
I think you just gave jeffy a chubby.
A Salty Dog wrote:adam12 wrote:The "trade war"on drugs is going to be about as effective as the original Reagan "war" on drugs.
Trump can start a trade war with his neighbors.
Declare the cartels terrorists and send in the Seals and eliminate all the cartel leadership it can.
Force China to stop the precursors.The drugs will not stop coming.
Meanwhile while everyone's attention is being diverted, Trump has sacked the auditors and removed all the disclosure laws.
The greatest robbery in history is about to take place.
And no one will know.Trump declares war on drugs but pardons a convicted drug dealer. That makes sense.
And maybe Canada should invade Alaska: just for fun!
You talking about Ross Ulbricht?
Supafreak wrote:adam12 wrote:The "trade war"on drugs is going to be about as effective as the original Reagan "war" on drugs.
Trump can start a trade war with his neighbors.
Declare the cartels terrorists and send in the Seals and eliminate all the cartel leadership it can.
Force China to stop the precursors.The drugs will not stop coming.
Meanwhile while everyone's attention is being diverted, Trump has sacked the auditors and removed all the disclosure laws.
The greatest robbery in history is about to take place.
And no one will know.I think you just gave jeffy a chubby.
Jeez, thanks for that @Supa
Don't know whether to laugh or vomit.
....I think it's gonna be vomit.
Hang on , what happened to ending the war on day one ? So now keep funding it with a guaranteed return on investment . I think the last admin had some sort of deal going. Putin won’t be happy, I thought Trump was supposed to be his puppet ? It’s all so confusing .
@Supa said "It’s all so confusing" .
Amen to that.
But remember @Supa, as you keep telling Sexy Jeff.
This American President...you don't take his word, what are you crazy? It's the "new vibe", Trump Time, get jiggy with it.
You "interpret" his meaning.
He's like a walking talking toxic parable, a simple story that you can place whatever meaning you like on.
He doesn't mean what he says, it's "deal art", next level Trump trolling, "owning" the radical woke left, keeping everyone on their toes.
It's a genius at work here, a chess master, he's thinking streets ahead.
Making America "great", selfish, unreliable, unhinged, unpredictable, starting wars with allies, untrustworthy, transactional, but "great". not great by stepping up like it did, but great by pulling back, leaving voids, "what's in it for Trump" kinda great.
And he's got that great relationship with Putin, he could have ended it in one call, easy, he's fucken Donald Trump remember, big swinging dick they all fear so much...he's got great relationships with all the dictators...
except Vladimir won't answer the phone.
So now he's just riffing, raw dogging, Trump talking. It was all part of his master plan apparently.
Maybe we help but we want whatever wealth we can extract.
Freedom ain't free anymore.
Says the leader of the free world.
Yesterday it was over in one call, today it's tying USAID to ripping off Ukraine's natural resources, tomorrow it will be some other brain fart, sending Hulk Hogan as an envoy or something.
And the cult will extrapolate on the chess master brilliance of it all.
Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank