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factotum started the topic in Thursday, 27 Aug 2020 at 11:12am

Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank

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tubeshooter Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 6:19pm

I believe Trump has already said he will go to 50% and broaden the scope if there was retaliation.
Game on by the look of it.

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burleigh Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 6:29pm

I’ve got the popcorn ready. How dumb can Canada be?

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basesix Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 6:44pm

contraband flood in the usa imminent, black market Big Maple Syrup and Big Cerveza rubbing their hands together.

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velocityjohnno Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 6:56pm
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This is ancient economics in modern sense. I lived my whole life at times of increasing globalisation. This will now definitely challenge that process and I’m not sure what the final outcome will be.

It'll be OK Flollo. 1980s childhood was mint, there was not a want of toys or anything like that. There was less than the total abundance of things at the touch of your fingertips & buying instantly from overseas on Temu or Ebay as per today, but there was also less rubbish landfill products. I remember saving 5c coin for a model kit, took weeks. But I appreciated it. It's amazing how solidly made those toys are, still got a few of the diecast model cars.

International travel was still a thing, not so much behind the iron curtain (although Mum visited East Germany in 1964 as part of a tour of Berlin, suppose tourists earned them cash. She remembered the jealousy in the eyes of the shop girl, looking at her dress. Dad also took me across from Hong Kong to the communist side for a village tour in 1985.)

Flying over Russia in 1984 (flight routes went over) I remember looking down at all the towns in the Soviet Union and wondering about the people there, what their life was like - it was just a parallel system.

So life will go on, even if the West and the CRINK nations form opposite blocs.

Oh yeah, andy-mac likes the BRICS, you like the EU, I like the Commonwealth ftw - over 1000 years of compounding law, great individual rights focus... USA to join Commonwealth lol

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velocityjohnno Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 7:00pm
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I dont think its gone, in Trumps administration theres plenty of anti PooMan/Kremlin regime people.Trump is likely to call on the Europeans to increase their support.Some, like Poland/Baltics have done lots.Along with the major Euro countries but the stuff takes it time getting into the practical places.PooMan is relying on half his artillery shells to come from Kim Suk Dik and the hermit kingdom troops are falling like flies.(I'm led to believe 4000 of the 12 are killed or wounded).Economically, interest rates are in the 27-30% range.Caviar will soon be cheaper than potatoes!!!!...I read a report early today that by March it's expected that 60% of car dealers in Russia wont exist.A million young men of fighting age have left Russia for a non war environment.

I think I saw 40thousand U$ to sign up, 2000 a month but the life expectancy for newbys is 8 days according to one report.

All of it is over PooMans ego....Trump wants to pump Oil and get the Saudis to pump so the Russians earn SFA and the economic circumstances get so bad that Russia cant wage war...I'm wondering IF the Kremlin thinking is they will use some of what they haven't?????

UK and France are the military powers of Europe, with nuclear deterrent too. UK is stepping up support to Ukraine. The pump oil to drop price strategy was used in the 1980s to bankrupt the Soviet Union, when added to unaffordable military arms race. Don't think that will work on China though.

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truebluebasher Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 7:24pm



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andy-mac Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 7:55pm
velocityjohnno wrote:
e wrote:

=flollo
This is ancient economics in modern sense. I lived my whole life at times of increasing globalisation. This will now definitely challenge that process and I’m not sure what the final outcome will be.

It'll be OK Flollo. 1980s childhood was mint, there was not a want of toys or anything like that. There was less than the total abundance of things at the touch of your fingertips & buying instantly from overseas on Temu or Ebay as per today, but there was also less rubbish landfill products. I remember saving 5c coin for a model kit, took weeks. But I appreciated it. It's amazing how solidly made those toys are, still got a few of the diecast model cars.

International travel was still a thing, not so much behind the iron curtain (although Mum visited East Germany in 1964 as part of a tour of Berlin, suppose tourists earned them cash. She remembered the jealousy in the eyes of the shop girl, looking at her dress. Dad also took me across from Hong Kong to the communist side for a village tour in 1985.)

Flying over Russia in 1984 (flight routes went over) I remember looking down at all the towns in the Soviet Union and wondering about the people there, what their life was like - it was just a parallel system.

So life will go on, even if the West and the CRINK nations form opposite blocs.

Oh yeah, andy-mac likes the BRICS, you like the EU, I like the Commonwealth ftw - over 1000 years of compounding law, great individual rights focus... USA to join Commonwealth lol

Just clarify, not necessarily liking the Brics... Just believe they will be a force over the next half century, but could be totally wrong.

TBH, I really just wish we had a multi polar world abiding by an international rules based off order which all countries respected where the main goal was benefiting humanity with health, wealth and mutual respect.
Thought after cold war it may have been possible, but alas it did not come about.
George Bush put an end to that idea.
Now here we are, war and major economic uncertainty.

Anyway off to listen to a bit of John Lennon....

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velocityjohnno Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 7:57pm

good stuff Andy-mac, I like what you wish for. There have been many times in history where things have been multi-polar - aka 'great power competition', most of them have had periods of conflict, peaces, and even trade between them.

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velocityjohnno Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 7:57pm

OK, I'm trying to back off on the news, honest, but Elon got the keys to the payment system:

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1885582076247712229

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Roadkill Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 8:07pm
velocityjohnno wrote:

OK, I'm trying to back off on the news, honest, but Elon got the keys to the payment system:

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1885582076247712229

“Officials were instructed” now watch Trump / Musk sack those that did what they were instructed.

And

Watch Trump / Musk sack officials that don’t do what Trump / Musk instruct them to do irrespective of illegalities.

You can’t make this stuff up.

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burleigh Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 8:35pm
velocityjohnno wrote:

OK, I'm trying to back off on the news, honest, but Elon got the keys to the payment system:

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1885582076247712229

This is great. The smartest businessman in the world should be running this.

Sack any corrupt worker, drain the swamp.

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flollo Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 8:57pm

Haha, sounds familiar. Happens in corporate a lot as well. Probably more than people think. Very little gets rejected.

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sypkan Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 9:22pm
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What’s Trumps next move ? Raise his tariffs even higher ? https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFjcjyrPVWT/?igsh=cGw5dHA2N25lcG9o

my gawwwds he's a wanker...

mustn't be easy to get up there, when you essentially have no support from the people, but his presentation style is beyond nauseating

anyway, good luck trudes... pretty sure you need the US more than they need you...

and, vj's right, it wasn't so bad when we weren't so spoilt for choice... and that spoilt for choice comes as an incredible environmental cost...

my guess is trump will exclude the oil and gas etc. until he makes the US energy independent again

then he can tariff the fuck out that as well

canadians definitely gonna feel it more than US, in the mid term anyway...

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flollo Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 9:46pm

Trump finds inspiration in president William McKinley. So much so that one of the first things he did was to rename Denali to Mt McKinley again. McKinley, like Trump, was a protectionist president. He also expanded the US territory to Guam, Puerto Rico and Hawaii. Cuba and the Phillipines were liberated from Spain through American-Spanish war.

Also, McKinley started discussion about Panama Canal. He was a tariff president who promised protection for American business and well-paid U.S. factory workers. His era was marked by significant economic growth. Federal income taxes were introduced after his time, in 1913. Before then, tariffs were the main source of government revenue.

Does any of this sound familiar? It’s a weird situation, some of these policies would make unions ecstatic. But it’s coming from Trump!?

One thing worth mentioning is that McKinley got assassinated. These policies will put a huge target on Trump’s back. I reckon the enemies have way more power than he does.

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Supafreak Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 9:47pm

Trump’s having a busy week , ISIS this time , who’s next ? Mexican cartels look out, you're on his radar . https://apnews.com/article/somalia-islamic-state-trump-airstrikes-hegset...

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indo-dreaming Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 9:55pm

Yeah its hard to keep up.


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