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Live Nation doing what they do best.
Falls Festival site up for sale.
garyg1412. Hi mate . Hope you’re well.
What else would you expect from a ruthless and selfish company whose whole mantra is to shaft anyone or any business for their ultimate benefit (profit). Scum of the earth, destroying Live Music experiences, globally, especially for the actual performers.
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Kilauea erupting live
https://www.youtube.com/live/LODoOFVl034?si=_I_Jf9GUdokffokt
^ wow @seeds, (hectic tiger shark clip too.. and I dug that olden days aussie photo thing..)
edit: this:
Hats off to Tim Bonython for this gut wrenching interview with a fella who was one of the first civilians to enter the scene of the Lahaina fires last year. Harrowing shit that sits close to home for many at this time of year in oz. Thanks TB.
basesix wrote:^ wow @seeds, (hectic tiger shark clip too.. and I dug that olden days aussie photo thing..)
edit: this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ37jbLoqnQ
Yes b6 I like those old photos.
@Southern devastating fire for so many
ps. Hope things don’t go nuts in Aus SE tomorrow fire wise
Kilauea lava has stopped. Putting on a beautiful show last night.
https://www.youtube.com/live/LODoOFVl034?si=E3dh_X5xro9AoDVo
Now the lava is draining back down below. Amazing. Going to have to go see this one day.
Wow.
Just reading that the lava slightly cools, loses gas and becomes heavier so starts to sink back down. When the eruption ceases I’m assuming.
Kilauea is spewing lava again. The sun has just set and it’s putting on an impressive show.
https://www.youtube.com/live/LODoOFVl034?si=-mlZcF7Ms0mNfCXv
It’s died down again. I wonder whether there will be another flow back.
Just chugging along now. Would have been 15x bigger earlier this afternoon as it was through the night of xmas(Australia).
Prepare to be bored again
I dont mind these videos, my grandparents were right into gem stone collecting and gold prospering even in clubs and had all the equipment, so we use to go bush a lot camping with them.
Its an awesome lifestyle it doesnt matter if you dont find anything just being out there is enough and there is always that feeling (like fishing) of what you might find.
I like that Indo. Happy 2025.
yeh, that was good, so was @indo's Amish Ivan doco, my daughter and I enjoyed that (she found the interviewer guy a little condescending). Below is something I posted in the religion thread last week.. WAAYYY more interesting than US politics.
people must be already on the road, it's happening in 10 days.. Is it getting any news attention on telly or socials?
basesix wrote:India. Here's some stats and facts from the Agence France-Presse about Kumbh Mela, the impending 6-week festival of bathing and piety, that happens every 12 years where the Ganges and Yumana meet:
- 400 million to attend (more than Canada + US populations combined)
- tent city two-thirds the size on Manhattan being built on the flood plain
- 150 000 toilets being installed
- 68 000 lighting poles being erected
- community kitchens being set up to feed 50 000 people at a time
- the only human gathering that will be able to be seen from space
- no human gathering like it exists, even a tenth the size
- (only 2 million Muslims pilgrimage to Mecca each year)
- (the biggest Christian gatherings (Manila) attract 6 million)four HUNDRED million!!! Jan 13th to Feb 26th. Holy hell!! (literally).
https://www.abc.net.au/asia/millions-of-people-will-flock-to-ganges-for-...
https://www.manilatimes.net/2024/12/26/world/india-readies-for-400-milli...
^ the Kumbh Mela has held the record for most people gathered (by far!) since the last one in 2013.. which was 120 million people. This 'special one' will be 3 times that! Something to do with Jupiter, and 12 cycles of 12..
estimate = 350,000,000 or 400,000,000 ?
(estimates vary by twice the amount of pilgrims that do the 100km walk from badad (27mil), the next biggest gathering, and by 10 times the amount of catholics that bumped uglies in manila (6mil), the next after that):
https://largest.org/people/gatherings-of-people/
(I excluded the non-religious gathering of 15mil for famed Indian Dravidian atheist polly): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._N._Annadurai
Kumbh Mela news:
the global daily guardian:
https://thedailyguardian.com/viral-news/maha-kumbh-mela-2025-dates-locat...
5 days ago k-news:
https://knews.kathimerini.com.cy/en/comment/opinion/maha-kumbh-mela-2025...
Location of the festival, Prayagraj (ex Allahabad);
top middle right of india, for people like me
with little meaningful indian geography knowledge.
(300km from nepal border, 3000 km from sri lanka):
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Prayagraj,+Uttar+Pradesh,+India
Satellite pics of the 2019 Kumbh Mela:
https://www.skymetweather.com/content/weather-news-and-analysis/prayagra...
"The 2019 [mini] Kumbh Mela in Prayagraj, India, attracted more than 200 million Hindus [presumably over the whole event], with 50 million people attending on the festival's most crowded day. The Kumbh Mela is a Hindu pilgrimage that takes place every 12 years in the northern city of Prayagraj, where the Ganges and Yamuna rivers meet."
indo-dreaming wrote:I dont mind these videos, my grandparents were right into gem stone collecting and gold prospering even in clubs and had all the equipment, so we use to go bush a lot camping with them.
Its an awesome lifestyle it doesnt matter if you dont find anything just being out there is enough and there is always that feeling (like fishing) of what you might find.
My Grandfather used to tickle fish.
True!!!
indo-dreaming wrote:I dont mind these videos, my grandparents were right into gem stone collecting and gold prospering even in clubs and had all the equipment, so we use to go bush a lot camping with them.
Its an awesome lifestyle it doesnt matter if you dont find anything just being out there is enough and there is always that feeling (like fishing) of what you might find.
And the sapphire and Opal hunters shows on 7 mate were interesting as well,
Love to see people toiling away in the heat and dust, always looking for that
million dollar find .
wax24 wrote:I like that Indo. Happy 2025.
You too.
Exxotixjeff wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:I dont mind these videos, my grandparents were right into gem stone collecting and gold prospering even in clubs and had all the equipment, so we use to go bush a lot camping with them.
Its an awesome lifestyle it doesnt matter if you dont find anything just being out there is enough and there is always that feeling (like fishing) of what you might find.
And the sapphire and Opal hunters shows on 7 mate were interesting as well,
Love to see people toiling away in the heat and dust, always looking for that
million dollar find .
Yeah i got into watching those opal ones for a while on TV, its hardcore work, and a very boom or bust cycle, surely half of them only break even at best.
Old link down. Try this
https://www.youtube.com/live/w0KulR_3wQk?si=9nHzITBB9sZnDx4H
A second vent has broken through. If it keeps up after sunset (2pm Qld 3pm NSW VIC) it’ll be beautiful viewing.
There is something uneasy in the Los Angeles air this afternoon, some unnatural stillness, some tension. What it means is that tonight a Santa Ana will begin to blow, a hot wind from the northeast whining down through the Cajon and San Gorgonio Passes, blowing up sand storms out along Route 66, drying the hills and the nerves to flash point. For a few days now we will see smoke back in the canyons, and hear sirens in the night.
I have neither heard nor read that a Santa Ana is due, but I know it, and almost everyone I have seen today knows it too. We know it because we feel it. The baby frets. The maid sulks. I rekindle a waning argument with the telephone company, then cut my losses and lie down, given over to whatever it is in the air. To live with the Santa Ana is to accept, consciously or unconsciously, a deeply mechanistic view of human behavior.
I recall being told, when I first moved to Los Angeles and was living on an isolated beach, that the Indians would throw themselves into the sea when the bad wind blew. I could see why. The Pacific turned ominously glossy during a Santa Ana period, and one woke in the night troubled not only by the peacocks screaming in the olive trees but by the eerie absence of surf. The heat was surreal. The sky had a yellow cast, the kind of light sometimes called "earthquake weather". My only neighbor would not come out of her house for days, and there were no lights at night, and her husband roamed the place with a machete. One day he would tell me that he had heard a trespasser, the next a rattlesnake.
"On nights like that," Raymond Chandler once wrote about the Santa Ana, "every booze party ends in a fight. Meek little wives feel the edge of the carving knife and study their husbands' necks. Anything can happen." That was the kind of wind it was. I did not know then that there was any basis for the effect it had on all of us, but it turns out to be another of those cases in which science bears out folk wisdom.
The Santa Ana, which is named for one of the canyons it rushers through, is foehn wind, like the foehn of Austria and Switzerland and the hamsin of Israel. There are a number of persistent malevolent winds, perhaps the best know of which are the mistral of France and the Mediterranean sirocco, but a foehn wind has distinct characteristics: it occurs on the leeward slope of a mountain range and, although the air begins as a cold mass, it is warmed as it comes down the mountain and appears finally as a hot dry wind. Whenever and wherever foehn blows, doctors hear about headaches and nausea and allergies, about "nervousness," about "depression."
In Los Angeles some teachers do not attempt to conduct formal classes during a Santa Ana, because the children become unmanageable. In Switzerland the suicide rate goes up during the foehn, and in the courts of some Swiss cantons the wind is considered a mitigating circumstance for crime. Surgeons are said to watch the wind, because blood does not clot normally during a foehn.
A few years ago an Israeli physicist discovered that not only during such winds, but for the ten or twelve hours which precede them, the air carries an unusually high ratio of positive to negative ions. No one seems to know exactly why that should be; some talk about friction and others suggest solar disturbances. In any case the positive ions are there, and what an excess of positive ions does, in the simplest terms, is make people unhappy. One cannot get much more mechanistic than that.
Easterners commonly complain that there is no "weather" at all in Southern California, that the days and the seasons slip by relentlessly, numbingly bland. That is quite misleading. In fact the climate is characterized by infrequent but violent extremes: two periods of torrential subtropical rains which continue for weeks and wash out the hills and send subdivisions sliding toward the sea; about twenty scattered days a year of the Santa Ana, which, with its incendiary dryness, invariably means fire. At the first prediction of a Santa Ana, the Forest Service flies men and equipment from northern California into the southern forests, and the Los Angeles Fire Department cancels its ordinary non-firefighting routines. The Santa Ana caused Malibu to burn as it did in 1956, and Bel Air in 1961, and Santa Barbara in 1964. In the winter of 1966-67 eleven men were killed fighting a Santa Ana fire that spread through the San Gabriel Mountains.
Just to watch the front-page news out of Los Angeles during a Santa Ana is to get very close to what it is about the place. The longest single Santa Ana period in recent years was in 1957, and it lasted not the usual three or four days but fourteen days, from November 21 until December 4. On the first day 25,000 acres of the San Gabriel Mountains were burning, with gusts reaching 100 miles an hour. In town, the wind reached Force 12, or hurricane force, on the Beaufort Scale; oil derricks were toppled and people ordered off the downtown streets to avoid injury from flying objects. On November 22 the fire in the San Gabriels was out of control. On November 24 six people were killed in automobile accidents, and by the end of the week the Los Angeles Times was keeping a box score of traffic deaths. On November 26 a prominent Pasadena attorney, depressed about money, shot and killed his wife, their two sons and himself. On November 27 a South Gate divorcée, twenty-two, was murdered and thrown from a moving car. On November 30 the San Gabriel fire was still out of control, and the wind in town was blowing eighty miles an hour. On the first day of December four people died violently, and on the third the wind began to break.
It is hard for people who have not lived in Los Angeles to realize how radically the Santa Ana figures in the local imagination. The city burning is Los Angeles's deepest image of itself. Nathaniel West perceived that, in The Day of the Locust, and at the time of the 1965 Watts riots what struck the imagination most indelibly were the fires. For days one could drive the Harbor Freeway and see the city on fire, just as we had always known it would be in the end. Los Angeles weather is the weather of catastrophe, of apocalypse, and, just as the reliably long and bitter winters of New England determine the way life is lived there, so the violence and the unpredictability of the Santa Ana affect the entire quality of life in Los Angeles, accentuate its impermanence, its unreliability. The winds shows us how close to the edge we are.
-Joan Didion 'Slouching Towards Bethlehem', 1969
Sounds like the Freo doctor is a just a puppy compared to the above.
Contacted some Cali friends concerned about their wellbeing- they're ok but friends of theirs from Altadena lost everything except the clothes on their backs. Back home another mate spent his new years day fighting the fires in Victoria. I think Aussies can relate to what the Californians are going through atm.
The really mad thing about it is it's January, so their winter. Is this the fire season for LA?
Being in Australia one imagines the brutally hot northerly wind days as the most incendiary, in mid to late summer. This would be like Ash Wednesday in August.
Just read that extract Stu, beautifully written it was. Why hasn't Hollywood made this very topic a blockbuster? It's so close to home for them. You could go with a psychological thriller theme, how it affects the mind and people, the apprehension beforehand, the extreme behaviour, the deluge of nature, it's ending in fire.
I guess earthquakes take preference. So, we got this:
And then this:
Personally I love any action movie where the Rock is driving or flying or captaining or piloting something:
VJ, if the Cali winter is anything like here it is tinder dry atm, currently humidity is at 29% and wind is howling. Dunno how much temperature affects fire but there's plenty of dry fuel to burn and wind to fan it. I would imagine the lack of humidity exacerbates it.
What a great read. Gave me the full on heebie jeebies. All the more so cos it all rings true. Yeah, the Santa Ana felt like some malign force in a psychological horror movie.
Big Wednesday on the other hand, paints a less malevolent, if not benevolent picture, certainly not one characterised by ‘the eerie absence of surf.’
BEACH
Wind blows paper across the darkened sand, the lights of the city sparkle in the distance. Dark objects begin to move on the beach as surfers wake up – crawl out of their sleeping bags – lean up on one arm and look out at the morning waves.
NARRATOR (V.O)
In the old days I remember a wind that
would blow through the canyons. It was a hot wind called
a Santa Ana and it carried the smell of warm places.
It blew the strongest before dawn across The Point.
We would sleep in our cars and the smell of the wind would wake us.
And each morning, we knew that this would be a special day.
HIGHWAY
Some surfers pull shiny longboards from a panel truck. They make hooting sounds as they disappear into the dawn.
NARRATOR (V.O)
(continuing)
And we often rode the long clean walls before it was light…
zenagain wrote:VJ, if the Cali winter is anything like here it is tinder dry atm, currently humidity is at 29% and wind is howling. Dunno how much temperature affects fire but there's plenty of dry fuel to burn and wind to fan it. I would imagine the lack of humidity exacerbates it.
No rain since July I read. I think in the end the buildings themselves became a bigger fuel source than the vegetation, especially the other night with the howling wind.
Hmm, I've heard a few reporters quote the last two sentences from Stu's extract today.
I don't know what sort of forestry management they do over there, but I can't see how you'd completely prevent these things happening over there given the right conditions and that 'devil wind'.
The mayor seems to be in a bit of shit though for cutting nearly 18M from their firefighting budget, which does seem like a silly thing to have done.
^^ that is beautiful writing @stu, I love that particular skill of linking the natural world to mixed human emotions and experiences. Not a word wasted and seamlessly crafted to draw the reader uncomfortably into the story, same as Steinway and Cormac McCartney. Will be reading more of Joan Didion’s work.
there once was a young guy from vicco
he had a small-mullet-shaped dick, though
he used it for fishing
and ended up wishing
he wasn't a cock-casting sicko
basesix wrote:there once was a young guy from vicco
he had a small-mullet-shaped dick, though
he used it for fishing
and ended up wishing
he wasn't a cock-casting sicko
Beautiful words there Basesix.
sorry, got a bit filled with the spirit @blackers,
currently at the cranker making sure the kids are alright and kicking out the jams. free punk night with 4 yoof bands (like, 20-y-olds). 'steal caps' I've seen before, but I liked 'weekend rage' just then who played as a three piece, cos the fourth member decided to extend his bali holiday.
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