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Hiccups wrote:burleigh wrote:Hiccups wrote:flollo wrote:Burleigh, you’re spot on regarding this trans extremism. It needs to stop.
Please elaborate on this alleged "trans extremism". I haven't seen it personally. Seems like something made up by the same people that would've been scared of gay people in eras past, and probably still are tbh. wtf is trans extremism? lolol
Also, many drag queens aren't even trans. It's performance art, darling!
All I’m saying is there is absolutely no need for adult men dressing up as women and reading book to young children. What can’t you see the issue?
What about adult men dressed up as clowns. Is that ok?
Or dressed up as Santa with little kiddies sitting on their knees for photos?
Hiccups wrote:burleigh wrote:Hiccups wrote:flollo wrote:Burleigh, you’re spot on regarding this trans extremism. It needs to stop.
Please elaborate on this alleged "trans extremism". I haven't seen it personally. Seems like something made up by the same people that would've been scared of gay people in eras past, and probably still are tbh. wtf is trans extremism? lolol
Also, many drag queens aren't even trans. It's performance art, darling!
All I’m saying is there is absolutely no need for adult men dressing up as women and reading book to young children. What can’t you see the issue?
What about adult men dressed up as clowns. Is that ok?
Are you comparing drag queens to clowns? How dare you.
fitzroy-21 wrote:Hiccups wrote:burleigh wrote:Hiccups wrote:flollo wrote:Burleigh, you’re spot on regarding this trans extremism. It needs to stop.
Please elaborate on this alleged "trans extremism". I haven't seen it personally. Seems like something made up by the same people that would've been scared of gay people in eras past, and probably still are tbh. wtf is trans extremism? lolol
Also, many drag queens aren't even trans. It's performance art, darling!
All I’m saying is there is absolutely no need for adult men dressing up as women and reading book to young children. What can’t you see the issue?
What about adult men dressed up as clowns. Is that ok?
Or dressed up as Santa with little kiddies sitting on their knees for photos?
Nope, I don’t do that either. Santa isn’t real, we teach our kids to tell the truth while we lie to them about fictional characters to behave.
What a messed up world we live in.
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That’s a mean , deranged , evil clown , speaking of clowns, trump being elected has more or less gifted him a get out of jail free card , sentencing for the crimes he’s been convicted of , have been delayed until November 26 th but some believe that won’t even go ahead .
burleigh wrote:Hiccups wrote:burleigh wrote:Hiccups wrote:flollo wrote:Burleigh, you’re spot on regarding this trans extremism. It needs to stop.
Please elaborate on this alleged "trans extremism". I haven't seen it personally. Seems like something made up by the same people that would've been scared of gay people in eras past, and probably still are tbh. wtf is trans extremism? lolol
Also, many drag queens aren't even trans. It's performance art, darling!
All I’m saying is there is absolutely no need for adult men dressing up as women and reading book to young children. What can’t you see the issue?
What about adult men dressed up as clowns. Is that ok?
Are you comparing drag queens to clowns? How dare you.
You should google Pogo the Clown.
burleigh wrote:fitzroy-21 wrote:Hiccups wrote:burleigh wrote:Hiccups wrote:flollo wrote:Burleigh, you’re spot on regarding this trans extremism. It needs to stop.
Please elaborate on this alleged "trans extremism". I haven't seen it personally. Seems like something made up by the same people that would've been scared of gay people in eras past, and probably still are tbh. wtf is trans extremism? lolol
Also, many drag queens aren't even trans. It's performance art, darling!
All I’m saying is there is absolutely no need for adult men dressing up as women and reading book to young children. What can’t you see the issue?
What about adult men dressed up as clowns. Is that ok?
Or dressed up as Santa with little kiddies sitting on their knees for photos?
Nope, I don’t do that either. Santa isn’t real, we teach our kids to tell the truth while we lie to them about fictional characters to behave.
What a messed up world we live in.
There is a long tradition of men dressing as women, and in many different cultures as well. Maybe you've tried it once or twice burley? Anyhoo, it's all about the rich diversity of human expression which doesn't hurt anyone else. I know if my kid saw a drag queen reading a story he'd be fascinated and would ask me many questions which would open an interesting conversation on the diversity of humanity.
It's all about diversity burley. What is it about that word you feel so threatened by?
TimTam wrote:burleigh wrote:fitzroy-21 wrote:Hiccups wrote:burleigh wrote:Hiccups wrote:flollo wrote:Burleigh, you’re spot on regarding this trans extremism. It needs to stop.
Please elaborate on this alleged "trans extremism". I haven't seen it personally. Seems like something made up by the same people that would've been scared of gay people in eras past, and probably still are tbh. wtf is trans extremism? lolol
Also, many drag queens aren't even trans. It's performance art, darling!
All I’m saying is there is absolutely no need for adult men dressing up as women and reading book to young children. What can’t you see the issue?
What about adult men dressed up as clowns. Is that ok?
Or dressed up as Santa with little kiddies sitting on their knees for photos?
Nope, I don’t do that either. Santa isn’t real, we teach our kids to tell the truth while we lie to them about fictional characters to behave.
What a messed up world we live in.
There is a long tradition of men dressing as women, and in many different cultures as well. Maybe you've tried it once or twice burley? Anyhoo, it's all about the rich diversity of human expression which doesn't hurt anyone else. I know if my kid saw a drag queen reading a story he'd be fascinated and would ask me many questions which would open an interesting conversation on the diversity of humanity.
It's all about diversity burley. What is it about that word you feel so threatened by?
Why do adult males even want to dress in drag and read books to little kids?
It’s as simple as that. Completely unnecessary.
couldn't be more stoked you're contributing more @Hiccups, aside from your advice to thieve from the big 2 like a motherfucker (haha), I dig where you sit. Sugar tits, too. But @burls is making sense here, innit? Anyone engaging in performance art while reading to my kid... well that just makes my kid a prop to the needs of the performer.. I don't think my kids had a lack of blurred-line role models, therefore they don't really need to sit there while someone 'expresses themself' when they signed up for a book-reading.
I have no problem with men walking around in skirts, or theys walking around doing whatever, going about their daily business. But deciding they would like the role or book-reader, designating my kid as audience to them, rather than the book? mmm, I'd pass, but good on people who might want that, that's not my business. (If it is a book about gender-blurring, then it makes total sense to me, btw).
(in the same way that we have a history of men dressing as women, etc etc, we also have a tradition of storytellers making themselves nigh-invisible and being at the service of the story).
(I've also stated before, some of the screeching banshee bitches getting about under the safety umbrella 'drag queen' are the most misogynistic creatures in our society.. I have numerous female friends in the performing arts that wonder why some drag queens feel the need to aggressively lampoon their gender)
Hiccups wrote:burleigh wrote:Hiccups wrote:flollo wrote:Burleigh, you’re spot on regarding this trans extremism. It needs to stop.
Please elaborate on this alleged "trans extremism". I haven't seen it personally. Seems like something made up by the same people that would've been scared of gay people in eras past, and probably still are tbh. wtf is trans extremism? lolol
Also, many drag queens aren't even trans. It's performance art, darling!
All I’m saying is there is absolutely no need for adult men dressing up as women and reading book to young children. What can’t you see the issue?
What about adult men dressed up as clowns. Is that ok?
That's not a very good comparison clowns have always been seen as entertainers of people of all ages and always focussed on kids.
Drag queens are adult entertainer's, adults find it amusing men pretending to be women playing up genderstereotypes or sexuality and some men get off on dressing up as women.
Comparing apples with apples would be comparing another type of adult entrainment with children.
How about topless women story time?
Since the dawn of time women have sat around topless telling kids stories, probably still happens in some tribal areas like the Amazon or Africa etc.
Nothing sexual about it for the kids, but i bet it would be a hit with the fathers and really get fathers involved with kids reading early.
But why would any women want to read books to kids topless? And what would be the purpose?
It's the same with drag queens, why would they want to read books to kids and whats the purpose?
Its grooming and just pushing the boundries as far as possible type thing, not grooming as you might think, it's a grooming of how some want society to see gender and sex as some non biological fluid thing, it's a get in early thing to mould kids into how they want people to view things.
Its why you dont hear of drag time story time for old people in retirement homes, even though they would love it, there is no use in grooming old minds (and yes Im sure its been done, but its not a big thing)
burleigh wrote:TimTam wrote:burleigh wrote:fitzroy-21 wrote:Hiccups wrote:burleigh wrote:Hiccups wrote:flollo wrote:Burleigh, you’re spot on regarding this trans extremism. It needs to stop.
Please elaborate on this alleged "trans extremism". I haven't seen it personally. Seems like something made up by the same people that would've been scared of gay people in eras past, and probably still are tbh. wtf is trans extremism? lolol
Also, many drag queens aren't even trans. It's performance art, darling!
All I’m saying is there is absolutely no need for adult men dressing up as women and reading book to young children. What can’t you see the issue?
What about adult men dressed up as clowns. Is that ok?
Or dressed up as Santa with little kiddies sitting on their knees for photos?
Nope, I don’t do that either. Santa isn’t real, we teach our kids to tell the truth while we lie to them about fictional characters to behave.
What a messed up world we live in.
There is a long tradition of men dressing as women, and in many different cultures as well. Maybe you've tried it once or twice burley? Anyhoo, it's all about the rich diversity of human expression which doesn't hurt anyone else. I know if my kid saw a drag queen reading a story he'd be fascinated and would ask me many questions which would open an interesting conversation on the diversity of humanity.
It's all about diversity burley. What is it about that word you feel so threatened by?Why do adult males even want to dress in drag and read books to little kids?
It’s as simple as that. Completely unnecessary.
Just tell yr kid to stay home and enjoy the well-defined gender roles in the burley household. I'd like my kid to enjoy the show, the performance. Challenge the kids perceptions. Whats not to like? The rich tapestry of human expression. Just fabulous.
Burley, indo, baseix, flollo. You guys would be great fun at parties i reckon.
fcuk me, @indo, you made a good point. retirement homes take what they can get, it's a lonely wasteland in most. any drag book readings? They'd be valued and accepted, with funny discussion.. young trumps old when the valves give out.
@Tim, I have taken my kids to pg rated drag shows at the fringe, watched eddie izzard specials with 'em, they have rainbow people all over in their lives, and have the world as their oyster. but my problem is the sanctity of a book reading space. Leave egos and identity at the door, please.
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basesix wrote:fcuk me, @indo, you made a good point. retirement homes take what they can get, it's a lonely wasteland in most. any drag book readings? They'd be valued and accepted, with funny discussion.. young trumps old when the valves give out.
@Tim, I have taken my kids to pg rated drag shows at the fringe, watched eddie izzard specials with 'em, they have rainbow people all over in their lives, and have the world as their oyster. but my problem is the sanctity of a book reading space. Leave egos and identity at the door, please.
"sanctity"??
tots. stories - tales, myths, legends, fiction, reference, bios, travelogues, history, allegory.. what..?
human stories are much bigger than whatever sweaty daily bullshit 'people' get heffed up about, haha.
indo-dreaming wrote:Hiccups wrote:burleigh wrote:Hiccups wrote:flollo wrote:Burleigh, you’re spot on regarding this trans extremism. It needs to stop.
Please elaborate on this alleged "trans extremism". I haven't seen it personally. Seems like something made up by the same people that would've been scared of gay people in eras past, and probably still are tbh. wtf is trans extremism? lolol
Also, many drag queens aren't even trans. It's performance art, darling!
All I’m saying is there is absolutely no need for adult men dressing up as women and reading book to young children. What can’t you see the issue?
What about adult men dressed up as clowns. Is that ok?
That's not a very good comparison clowns have always been seen as entertainers of people of all ages and always focussed on kids.
I asked burleigh that so I could answer with some context about why clowns are historically wildly more dangerous to children than drag queens, which is why I had to make a more succinct post telling him to google Pogo the Clown.
Bro, drag queens are entertainers, and most entertainers enjoy entertaining kids. They're reading books, not simulating sex acts. I'm not into furries now cos I sat in Fat Cat's knee when I was five years old. Fucken loved Fat Cat too, me.
Wish I'd never, to make a point about Matt Gaetz, mentioned drag storytime. That's what THEY want US arguing about. Class war, not culture war.
^ ha, unreal article, @Hiccups, and I gotta admit, cos I work in the arts, I have a predisposition to cynicism. My default position when I hear 'artist', 'emerging', expressing', etc. is 'entitled', 'self-obsessed', etc. But truth be know, there are some wonderful people in the performing arts, who genuinely want to give while they entertain. Keep your sunny disposition re this, it is probably the right way to look at things, there's little reward in the arts these days in terms of money or glory, people are probably out to give and make synergistic happy-times, at the end of the day.
Hiccups wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:Hiccups wrote:burleigh wrote:Hiccups wrote:flollo wrote:Burleigh, you’re spot on regarding this trans extremism. It needs to stop.
Please elaborate on this alleged "trans extremism". I haven't seen it personally. Seems like something made up by the same people that would've been scared of gay people in eras past, and probably still are tbh. wtf is trans extremism? lolol
Also, many drag queens aren't even trans. It's performance art, darling!
All I’m saying is there is absolutely no need for adult men dressing up as women and reading book to young children. What can’t you see the issue?
What about adult men dressed up as clowns. Is that ok?
That's not a very good comparison clowns have always been seen as entertainers of people of all ages and always focussed on kids.
I asked burleigh that so I could answer with some context about why clowns are historically wildly more dangerous to children than drag queens, which is why I had to make a more succinct post telling him to google Pogo the Clown.
Bro, drag queens are entertainers, and most entertainers enjoy entertaining kids. They're reading books, not simulating sex acts. I'm not into furries now cos I sat in Fat Cat's knee when I was five years old. Fucken loved Fat Cat too, me.
Adult entertainers.
Can you give any good reason why their shouldn't be topless women story time for kids?
indo-dreaming wrote:Hiccups wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:Hiccups wrote:burleigh wrote:Hiccups wrote:flollo wrote:Burleigh, you’re spot on regarding this trans extremism. It needs to stop.
Please elaborate on this alleged "trans extremism". I haven't seen it personally. Seems like something made up by the same people that would've been scared of gay people in eras past, and probably still are tbh. wtf is trans extremism? lolol
Also, many drag queens aren't even trans. It's performance art, darling!
All I’m saying is there is absolutely no need for adult men dressing up as women and reading book to young children. What can’t you see the issue?
What about adult men dressed up as clowns. Is that ok?
That's not a very good comparison clowns have always been seen as entertainers of people of all ages and always focussed on kids.
I asked burleigh that so I could answer with some context about why clowns are historically wildly more dangerous to children than drag queens, which is why I had to make a more succinct post telling him to google Pogo the Clown.
Bro, drag queens are entertainers, and most entertainers enjoy entertaining kids. They're reading books, not simulating sex acts. I'm not into furries now cos I sat in Fat Cat's knee when I was five years old. Fucken loved Fat Cat too, me.
Adult entertainers.
Can you give any good reason why their shouldn't be topless women story time for kids?
Because all the dads would be sitting in the front row blocking their view.
indo-dreaming wrote:Hiccups wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:Hiccups wrote:burleigh wrote:Hiccups wrote:flollo wrote:Burleigh, you’re spot on regarding this trans extremism. It needs to stop.
Please elaborate on this alleged "trans extremism". I haven't seen it personally. Seems like something made up by the same people that would've been scared of gay people in eras past, and probably still are tbh. wtf is trans extremism? lolol
Also, many drag queens aren't even trans. It's performance art, darling!
All I’m saying is there is absolutely no need for adult men dressing up as women and reading book to young children. What can’t you see the issue?
What about adult men dressed up as clowns. Is that ok?
That's not a very good comparison clowns have always been seen as entertainers of people of all ages and always focussed on kids.
I asked burleigh that so I could answer with some context about why clowns are historically wildly more dangerous to children than drag queens, which is why I had to make a more succinct post telling him to google Pogo the Clown.
Bro, drag queens are entertainers, and most entertainers enjoy entertaining kids. They're reading books, not simulating sex acts. I'm not into furries now cos I sat in Fat Cat's knee when I was five years old. Fucken loved Fat Cat too, me.
Adult entertainers.
Can you give any good reason why their shouldn't be topless women story time for kids?
indo-dreaming wrote:Adult entertainers.
Not if there's no adult content. Then they're just blokes in fancy dress as exaggerated women. A story as old as time (probably).
indo-dreaming wrote:Can you give any good reason why their shouldn't be topless women story time for kids?
Not really, but it's a false equivalence, isn't it.
Your favourite team the Liberal Party had to be pressured to allow breastfeeding in public, so I should hope that you don't wanna see a pair of cans anywhere except the sanctity of your bedroom, preferably with the lights off.
Ah good to see the culture wars continue to be waged.
Back to the US, now the dust is settling here is Nate Silvers take. Hopefully not behind a paywall. Worth a read.
https://open.substack.com/pub/natesilver/p/its-2004-all-over-again?r=f2i...
@info prefers his sexual deviants to be white straight men …. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/15/trump-cabinet-pete-hegse...
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