Elon deserves his own thread

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indo-dreaming started the topic in Saturday, 15 Apr 2023 at 1:16pm

What you need to see

What the BBC want you to only see.

And everything

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flollo Wednesday, 16 Oct 2024 at 8:10pm

Stupa, there’s a lot more coming and Starlink is not the only player. Satellite is the future of global broadband, that’s for sure.

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indo-dreaming Wednesday, 16 Oct 2024 at 8:19pm
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Timelapse of starlink satellites. Plenty of people voicing their concerns in the comments. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C-dyqmKt6Nv/?igsh=ampxcGRvbWR4Z3Zq. https://www.space.com/spacex-starlink-satellites.html

Thats pretty insane.

lots of the comments are pretty scary through, scary in a OMFG you cant be serious way.

Crazy how small they are too.

"Each Starlink satellite measures approximately 2.8 meters (9.2 feet) in length and 1.4 meters (4.6 feet) in width, with a thickness of about 0.2 meters (0.7 feet). The weight of each satellite is roughly 260 kilograms (573 pounds)."

https://starlinkinstallationpros.com/understanding-the-size-of-starlink-...(573%20pounds).

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basesix Wednesday, 16 Oct 2024 at 8:24pm
indo-dreaming wrote:

lots of the comments are pretty scary through, scary in a OMFG you cant be serious way.
Crazy how small they are too.

"Each Starlink satellite measures approximately 2.8 meters (9.2 feet) in length and 1.4 meters (4.6 feet) in width, with a thickness of about 0.2 meters (0.7 feet). The weight of each satellite is roughly 260 kilograms (573 pounds)."

I think this issue is that they are manned.

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indo-dreaming Wednesday, 16 Oct 2024 at 8:47pm

What do you mean?

Satellites aren't manned?

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basesix Wednesday, 16 Oct 2024 at 8:52pm

yeh, they are, and making them that small is unconscionable.

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Distracted Thursday, 17 Oct 2024 at 8:22am

Astronomers aren’t too impressed with all of Elons satellites blocking radio magnetic telescopes.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy4dnr8zemgo.amp

Crazy numbers of satellites though, article says Starlink currently has 6400 in orbit but there will be 100,000 by 2030.

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Pop Down Thursday, 17 Oct 2024 at 8:46am

Good point distracted .

The X Satellites look like a Shield that could stop a Telescope looking Out .

Maybe even block the Stars ?

They will also work in our benefit .

A Shield that MAY reduce Sunlight and help with Global Warming .

Might even stop a pesky big meteor smashing into us 2 .

Our Ring of Steel !

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GuySmiley Thursday, 17 Oct 2024 at 9:18am

Musk has apparently donated $70 million USD to Trump's campaign. Wow, what a man!

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Roadkill Thursday, 17 Oct 2024 at 10:15am

anyone wonder why Musk would donate $70 million USD?

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Supafreak Thursday, 17 Oct 2024 at 10:31am
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Astronomers aren’t too impressed with all of Elons satellites blocking radio magnetic telescopes.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy4dnr8zemgo.amp

Crazy numbers of satellites though, article says Starlink currently has 6400 in orbit but there will be 100,000 by 2030.

Did anyone read this article that I linked in my original post ? 5 year lifespan isn’t much , that’s alot of crap burning up when it enters the atmosphere. It won’t be shooting stars you’re looking at in the future, it will be satellites burning up . https://www.space.com/spacex-starlink-satellites.html. In a paper published in May 2021 in the journal Scientific Reports, Canadian researcher Aaron Boley said the aluminum the satellites are made of will produce aluminum oxide, also known as alumina, during burn-up. He warned that alumina is known to cause ozone depletion and could also alter the atmosphere's ability to reflect heat.

"Alumina reflects light at certain wavelengths and if you dump enough alumina into the atmosphere, you are going to create scattering and eventually change the albedo of the planet," Boley told Space.com.

That could lead to an out-of-control geoengineering experiment, a change in the Earth's climate balance. The effects of such alternations are currently unknown. …………We have 54 tonnes (60 tons) of meteoroid material coming in every day," Boley said. "With the first generation of Starlink, we can expect about 2 tonnes (2.2 tons) of dead satellites reentering Earth's atmosphere daily. But meteoroids are mostly rock, which is made of oxygen, magnesium and silicon. These satellites are mostly aluminum, which the meteoroids contain only in a very small amount, about 1%."

As the accumulation of those particles would increase over time, so would the intensity of the effects. It thus cannot be ruled out that over decades the pollution from burning megaconstellation satellites could lead to changes on a scale akin to what we are currently experiencing with fossil-fuel-induced climate change.

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Roadkill Thursday, 17 Oct 2024 at 11:10am
Supafreak wrote:
Distracted wrote:

Astronomers aren’t too impressed with all of Elons satellites blocking radio magnetic telescopes.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy4dnr8zemgo.amp

Crazy numbers of satellites though, article says Starlink currently has 6400 in orbit but there will be 100,000 by 2030.

Did anyone read this article that I linked in my original post ? 5 year lifespan isn’t much , that’s alot of crap burning up when it enters the atmosphere. It won’t be shooting stars you’re looking at in the future, it will be satellites burning up . https://www.space.com/spacex-starlink-satellites.html. In a paper published in May 2021 in the journal Scientific Reports, Canadian researcher Aaron Boley said the aluminum the satellites are made of will produce aluminum oxide, also known as alumina, during burn-up. He warned that alumina is known to cause ozone depletion and could also alter the atmosphere's ability to reflect heat.

"Alumina reflects light at certain wavelengths and if you dump enough alumina into the atmosphere, you are going to create scattering and eventually change the albedo of the planet," Boley told Space.com.

That could lead to an out-of-control geoengineering experiment, a change in the Earth's climate balance. The effects of such alternations are currently unknown. …………We have 54 tonnes (60 tons) of meteoroid material coming in every day," Boley said. "With the first generation of Starlink, we can expect about 2 tonnes (2.2 tons) of dead satellites reentering Earth's atmosphere daily. But meteoroids are mostly rock, which is made of oxygen, magnesium and silicon. These satellites are mostly aluminum, which the meteoroids contain only in a very small amount, about 1%."

As the accumulation of those particles would increase over time, so would the intensity of the effects. It thus cannot be ruled out that over decades the pollution from burning megaconstellation satellites could lead to changes on a scale akin to what we are currently experiencing with fossil-fuel-induced climate change.

we get 1 world...might as well destroy it.

Musk is supporting Trump as he wants access to the upper atmosphere to control all our satellite needs.

And people think Musk and Trump care? Trump has zero environmental care.

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Distracted Thursday, 17 Oct 2024 at 11:14am

[quote=Supafreak.
Did anyone read this article that I linked in my original post ? 5uote]
Sorry Supa, missed that one. That’s a fascinating article. Potentially a lot of pollution associated with those satellites, visual, radio plus chemical .

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indo-dreaming Thursday, 17 Oct 2024 at 6:00pm

Five years, wow that isn't long.

It's just like anything in life there are trade offs, the internet service itself also has a lot of positives for people in areas of the world where phone or internet access is poor.

$70 million to Trumps campaign to us is big money, but depending on who or which sources you believe he earns 6 to 10 million a day.

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Supafreak Sunday, 27 Oct 2024 at 11:26am

My mate had global roaming starlink for his camp in mentawai , it went from $300 a month to $690 overnight . Here at Tarci bungalows on NL , the owner , Agus , was looking at starlink which had a promo of 3.9 million rp to start up then 750, 000rp per month . Starlink indo came around and looked at his business and quoted him 30 million for startup and 1.4 million rp a month . Not cheap getting to mars so expect more price increases . https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/24/elon-musk-26-billion-richer-after-tesla-...

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philosurphizing... Sunday, 27 Oct 2024 at 12:40pm

Starlink with a telstra phone satellite connection in Oz is $125 per month.
I recently had to swap over from ADSL and copper phone landline, which was costing $80 per month.
The speeds are good, no more buffering when watching vids.

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indo-dreaming Thursday, 31 Oct 2024 at 9:45pm

Started watching this docco yesterday and im about half way through.

It is a pretty in depth journey through his life with lots of old footage and interviews from him family, x partner's, friend's and old business partners etc

The guy is a freak, super smart, but also just a work alcoholic, super determined, super driven and a huge risk taker.

You can also see the cut throat aspect of his approach to business and staff even in the early days.

BTW. The tittle "you will never look at him the same way" is kinda true.

But the tittle below that "abused for years" crap is misleading and just click bait, and its weird that such a good docco would use that type method to try to pull people in.

&t=4033s

"In 1995, at the start of the Silicon Valley tech boom, Elon arrives with his younger brother Kimbal to join the gold rush and be part of the creation of the internet. They’re geeky young South Africans battling to make a fortune, but Elon is still sleeping on the floor of his office and washing at the local YMCA.

Burdened with student debt, Elon and his brother create their first company, which they go on to sell for millions. Within just four years, at the age of 28, Musk is a multi-millionaire. But on his honeymoon, things start to go wrong.

In 2009, the financial crash sends shockwaves across the world and threatens to cripple Elon. To realise his dream, Elon must gain the confidence of the financial markets to allow his electric car company Tesla to become viable.

Elon’s space rocket enterprise, SpaceX, is awarded a Nasa contract and starts to enjoy success. However, Tesla is on the ropes and haemorrhaging money. To compound this pressure, Elon is about to marry his second wife, British actress Talulah Riley.

Despite these challenges, Elon is determined to create a new car, the Model S, that he believes will be the first mass-produced all-electric car in history.

By 2016, Elon Musk is moving fast with several new business ideas: building underground tunnels, creating chips that can be inserted into people's brains and attempting to build the biggest battery factory the world has ever seen.

All the while he is edging closer to his ultimate dream of taking humanity to Mars.

As Elon’s businesses reach unprecedented levels of success, his celebrity grows, but his behaviour comes under ever greater scrutiny."

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basesix Thursday, 31 Oct 2024 at 9:51pm

wheee... woooo...
epic elon!!!! make it grow!!!
marry, consolidate, drive, envision..
where the fuck would we be without you?
(one less creepy plasticine-faced megalomaniac in the world?
danggg.. that would be hard for the populous to bear)

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basesix Thursday, 31 Oct 2024 at 10:14pm

this is a serious header to what is probably a serious thread.
felt a bit self-conscious having two things on the front page
with pointless frivolity exclaims.

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Roadkill Friday, 1 Nov 2024 at 6:56am
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2024-11-01/telecoms-network-relies-o...

That map showing satellites in space is mad crazy…and it’s only going to get more congested.

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Jelly Flater Tuesday, 5 Nov 2024 at 10:00am
basesix wrote:

wheee... woooo...
epic elon!!!! make it grow!!!
marry, consolidate, drive, envision..
where the fuck would we be without you?
(one less creepy plasticine-faced megalomaniac in the world?
danggg.. that would be hard for the populous to bear)

^ haha yep
… just gotta pay attention to the tittles ;)

https://m.

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indo-dreaming Tuesday, 5 Nov 2024 at 6:34pm
indo-dreaming wrote:

Started watching this docco yesterday and im about half way through.

It is a pretty in depth journey through his life with lots of old footage and interviews from him family, x partner's, friend's and old business partners etc

The guy is a freak, super smart, but also just a work alcoholic, super determined, super driven and a huge risk taker.

You can also see the cut throat aspect of his approach to business and staff even in the early days.

BTW. The tittle "you will never look at him the same way" is kinda true.

But the tittle below that "abused for years" crap is misleading and just click bait, and its weird that such a good docco would use that type method to try to pull people in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cPkmDSjHQ4&t=4033s

"In 1995, at the start of the Silicon Valley tech boom, Elon arrives with his younger brother Kimbal to join the gold rush and be part of the creation of the internet. They’re geeky young South Africans battling to make a fortune, but Elon is still sleeping on the floor of his office and washing at the local YMCA.

Burdened with student debt, Elon and his brother create their first company, which they go on to sell for millions. Within just four years, at the age of 28, Musk is a multi-millionaire. But on his honeymoon, things start to go wrong.

In 2009, the financial crash sends shockwaves across the world and threatens to cripple Elon. To realise his dream, Elon must gain the confidence of the financial markets to allow his electric car company Tesla to become viable.

Elon’s space rocket enterprise, SpaceX, is awarded a Nasa contract and starts to enjoy success. However, Tesla is on the ropes and haemorrhaging money. To compound this pressure, Elon is about to marry his second wife, British actress Talulah Riley.

Despite these challenges, Elon is determined to create a new car, the Model S, that he believes will be the first mass-produced all-electric car in history.

By 2016, Elon Musk is moving fast with several new business ideas: building underground tunnels, creating chips that can be inserted into people's brains and attempting to build the biggest battery factory the world has ever seen.

All the while he is edging closer to his ultimate dream of taking humanity to Mars.

As Elon’s businesses reach unprecedented levels of success, his celebrity grows, but his behaviour comes under ever greater scrutiny."

Finished this the other day, it really gives a better insight to Elon both in why he has achieved what he has but also his eccentric personality.

Probably some of the most interesting bits are the little interview's with both his parents separately, both his parents are very eccentric in different ways.

Hs mother he is close to seems nice and supportive, his father that he has little to do with makes Elon seem normal.

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Jelly Flater Tuesday, 5 Nov 2024 at 9:03pm

“Most of the trouble in the world is caused by people wanting to be important."
- T.S. Eliot

“… just a work alcoholic “
- Ha.Ha. Hahahaha

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