Climate Change
Craig wrote:Hurricane Milton is now the 5th strongest on record for the Atlantic basin..
that is one hell of a storm
I agree with you there will always be an ‘out’, in fact it’s pretty obvious it’s a combination of factors, however the action of greed, and its consequences, against the overwhelming scientific evidence warrants far more than ridicule..
What has been happening is criminal
Pop down
Is right , climate change is great so far .
Qlds been getting a lot more swell than I remember in the 70s and 80s.
And apparently The Southern Ocean getting less .
Even if Popdown is a climate. change denier
Even though this is YouTube , there is some information on it .
Since around 1955, birds bodies globally have been shrinking and wing lengths increasing.
It’s all to do with the body not needing to be so big so as to generate the appropriate amount of heat.
Ambient air temperature is increasing, marginally, which is enough, especially in the biological world, everything is interrelated.
Wing length increase is about creating a larger surface area to expel heat.
Many different types of birds are slowly moving to higher altitudes.
Problems then follow, especially in relation to birds voices and calls.
Higher altitudes are cooler, this has an effect on the voice control part of the throat at the lower larynx near the base of the trachea, this is where the syrinx is located , the organ that controls the output of sound.
Repercussions, birds become disoriented amongst their kin, songbird voices are used for mating and more importantly as alarms for predators .
Birds have become easy prey to predators has a result of having to adapt to a whole new niche in a once foreign altitude.
It’s been discussed that birds of a particular species that move to higher altitudes, can possibly, over a long period of time, ultimately speciate into a whole new species because their original biology and ecology has been greatly altered.
This is just one of the results of human induced temperature increases, many don’t seem to think it matters, but it sure does, especially from a birds perspective. AW
meanwhile in NZ the alps just recieved another metre dump, best spring for consistant dumps in many years, polar vortex paying dividends
^^ not to mention fish species are moving south in search of cooler waters …
..and not having floating ice to rest on, for those that relate more to charismatic large-mammals (only a 2 min watch)..
GuySmiley wrote:^^ not to mention fish species are moving south in search of cooler waters …
GuySmiley. Hi mate. Great point .
I’ve touched on fish migrating south with Freeride76 a few times over the last while.
South Solitary Island is a classic example, NE of Coffs Harbour, for several years now, fish from the tropics are being seen at higher latitudes in the south because the water has warmed and they move with the warmer water column devastating the reefs in that area and simply mow down all the different algae and other organisms. Before we know it Sydney will or already have species of tropical fish present.
I’ve seen footage of the reefs at SS Islands after the tropical fish move through, totally denuded of life.
Guy, correct, species that like cold water like in the Southern Ocean are moving further south according to a recent researcher who presented at our field naturalist club, she works on that incredible purpose built CSIRO ship, Investigator. AW
basesix, that was a worthwhile but thoroughly depressing 2 minutes
Jeez , it made me feel so so fucking shit and sad seeing that and I thought I kept abreast on a few things, thanks basesix for educating me in the worst real way
They are so so thin as well and the tusks seem underdeveloped if fully mature adults, heartbreaking for me
Horrific. A powerful share basesix
Yeah that vision is heart breaking.
Shifting back to Milton, it still astounds me that they send planes into these hurricanes..
Bumpy ride into Hurricane #Milton on @NOAA WP-3D Orion #NOAA43 "Miss Piggy" to collect data to help improve the forecast and support hurricane research.
— NOAA Aircraft Operations Center (@NOAA_HurrHunter) October 8, 2024
Visit https://t.co/3phpgKNx0q for the latest forecasts and advisories
Visit https://t.co/UoRa967zK0 for information that you… pic.twitter.com/ezmXu2Zqta
And a little reality check..
Upper ocean heat content in the Atlantic during the last 66 years... pic.twitter.com/17VS0MeYcT
— Ben Noll (@BenNollWeather) October 8, 2024
stunet wrote:shoredump wrote:..when do we get to say I told you so?
Never.
Firstly, it'll never be overwhelmingly proven, there'll always be an 'out' of some sort, such is the nature of Earth's climate, and secondly, if you want to win the battle of hearts and minds you don't do it by ridiculing people.
The battle is already lost. It’s already too late. Just look at the momentum of this ship, there is no turning it back in time. The current worlds vibe and unrest all stems from this source, that we are fucking up pretty much everything
There are billions of people that are still willing to fight the elements to survive Shoredump .
Humans have shown Mother Earth we are the Most adaptable Species She has EVER produced .
She thinks that's cool .
We flourished super fast , when we found out how to use Fossil Fuels .
Too fast .
We have got ourselves into a pickle and will have to adapt , as humans do .
Humanity is flowing out of Florida , good luck to them all !
They will come flooding back and will clean up the Mess , Bon Chance with that .
"There are billions of people that are still willing to fight the elements to survive."
This does not mean we must keep making it harder to do so.
And billions more that don’t think we need to. There’s your momentum
Sorry
Humans got addicted to Generating Power , Blackers .
It made it much Easier to survive and our numbers went off the charts .
It became our way of Life .
After a 100 years plus of good times , the addiction is causing big problems .
Lucky we have Nuclear Fusion coming .
We can have unlimited Energy and won't have to go through terrible withdrawal symptoms trying to Stop an addiction .
100% Pop
Let’s see how the cards fall
Just last week Trump called climate change the biggest hoax of our times, and that the planet is getting cooler not warmer.
He might soon be the leader of the free world, and his millions of followers would blindly follow him off a cliff.
Crazy..
TORNADO IN WELLINGTON:
— Kate Hussey (@katehussey8) October 9, 2024
Video a friend sent to me of a confirmed tornado moving through Wellington on Southern Blvd ahead of #HurricaneMilton.
SEEK SHELTER NOW!!! pic.twitter.com/17rAfjN6BE
And one of the locations impacted..
St Lucie County #Florida Sheriff’s Office struck by tornado ahead of #HurricaneMilton #HurricaneMilton2024 pic.twitter.com/SpmfgAVjow
— William E. Lewis, Jr (@4BillLewis) October 9, 2024
keep the info and analysis coming, Craig. Hope people are ok, and devastation is minimal, but the inundation and power of this will be like watching godzilla step out of the gulf of mexico and shake-off before heading off to bermuda.
Digressing slightly from Milton, this year was the 2nd lowest on record for sea ice extent across Antarctica (2023 was the lowest)..
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/event-tracker/2024-antarctic-sea-i...
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