Climate Change

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blowfly started the topic in Wednesday, 1 Jul 2020 at 9:40am

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Supafreak Tuesday, 8 Oct 2024 at 2:57pm
Craig wrote:

Hurricane Milton is now the 5th strongest on record for the Atlantic basin..

https://twitter.com/WxNB_/status/1843402137570816508

that is one hell of a storm

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shoredump Tuesday, 8 Oct 2024 at 3:01pm

I agree with you there will always be an ‘out’, in fact it’s pretty obvious it’s a combination of factors, however the action of greed, and its consequences, against the overwhelming scientific evidence warrants far more than ridicule..
What has been happening is criminal

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Juliang Tuesday, 8 Oct 2024 at 3:34pm

Pop down
Is right , climate change is great so far .
Qlds been getting a lot more swell than I remember in the 70s and 80s.
And apparently The Southern Ocean getting less .
Even if Popdown is a climate. change denier

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Even though this is YouTube , there is some information on it .

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AlfredWallace Tuesday, 8 Oct 2024 at 7:38pm

Since around 1955, birds bodies globally have been shrinking and wing lengths increasing.
It’s all to do with the body not needing to be so big so as to generate the appropriate amount of heat.
Ambient air temperature is increasing, marginally, which is enough, especially in the biological world, everything is interrelated.
Wing length increase is about creating a larger surface area to expel heat.

Many different types of birds are slowly moving to higher altitudes.
Problems then follow, especially in relation to birds voices and calls.

Higher altitudes are cooler, this has an effect on the voice control part of the throat at the lower larynx near the base of the trachea, this is where the syrinx is located , the organ that controls the output of sound.

Repercussions, birds become disoriented amongst their kin, songbird voices are used for mating and more importantly as alarms for predators .

Birds have become easy prey to predators has a result of having to adapt to a whole new niche in a once foreign altitude.
It’s been discussed that birds of a particular species that move to higher altitudes, can possibly, over a long period of time, ultimately speciate into a whole new species because their original biology and ecology has been greatly altered.

This is just one of the results of human induced temperature increases, many don’t seem to think it matters, but it sure does, especially from a birds perspective. AW

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thc Tuesday, 8 Oct 2024 at 8:20pm

meanwhile in NZ the alps just recieved another metre dump, best spring for consistant dumps in many years, polar vortex paying dividends

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GuySmiley Tuesday, 8 Oct 2024 at 8:28pm

^^ not to mention fish species are moving south in search of cooler waters …

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basesix Tuesday, 8 Oct 2024 at 8:33pm

..and not having floating ice to rest on, for those that relate more to charismatic large-mammals (only a 2 min watch)..

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AlfredWallace Tuesday, 8 Oct 2024 at 8:59pm
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^^ not to mention fish species are moving south in search of cooler waters …

GuySmiley. Hi mate. Great point .

I’ve touched on fish migrating south with Freeride76 a few times over the last while.
South Solitary Island is a classic example, NE of Coffs Harbour, for several years now, fish from the tropics are being seen at higher latitudes in the south because the water has warmed and they move with the warmer water column devastating the reefs in that area and simply mow down all the different algae and other organisms. Before we know it Sydney will or already have species of tropical fish present.
I’ve seen footage of the reefs at SS Islands after the tropical fish move through, totally denuded of life.

Guy, correct, species that like cold water like in the Southern Ocean are moving further south according to a recent researcher who presented at our field naturalist club, she works on that incredible purpose built CSIRO ship, Investigator. AW

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arcadia Tuesday, 8 Oct 2024 at 11:42pm

basesix, that was a worthwhile but thoroughly depressing 2 minutes

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seaslug Wednesday, 9 Oct 2024 at 1:26am

Jeez , it made me feel so so fucking shit and sad seeing that and I thought I kept abreast on a few things, thanks basesix for educating me in the worst real way

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seaslug Wednesday, 9 Oct 2024 at 1:33am

They are so so thin as well and the tusks seem underdeveloped if fully mature adults, heartbreaking for me

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shoredump Wednesday, 9 Oct 2024 at 6:20am

Horrific. A powerful share basesix

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Craig Wednesday, 9 Oct 2024 at 6:25am

Yeah that vision is heart breaking.

Shifting back to Milton, it still astounds me that they send planes into these hurricanes..

And a little reality check..

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shoredump Wednesday, 9 Oct 2024 at 7:14am
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..when do we get to say I told you so?

Never.

Firstly, it'll never be overwhelmingly proven, there'll always be an 'out' of some sort, such is the nature of Earth's climate, and secondly, if you want to win the battle of hearts and minds you don't do it by ridiculing people.

The battle is already lost. It’s already too late. Just look at the momentum of this ship, there is no turning it back in time. The current worlds vibe and unrest all stems from this source, that we are fucking up pretty much everything

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Pop Down Wednesday, 9 Oct 2024 at 8:17am

There are billions of people that are still willing to fight the elements to survive Shoredump .

Humans have shown Mother Earth we are the Most adaptable Species She has EVER produced .

She thinks that's cool .

We flourished super fast , when we found out how to use Fossil Fuels .

Too fast .

We have got ourselves into a pickle and will have to adapt , as humans do .

Humanity is flowing out of Florida , good luck to them all !

They will come flooding back and will clean up the Mess , Bon Chance with that .

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blackers Wednesday, 9 Oct 2024 at 8:20am

"There are billions of people that are still willing to fight the elements to survive."
This does not mean we must keep making it harder to do so.

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shoredump Wednesday, 9 Oct 2024 at 8:27am

And billions more that don’t think we need to. There’s your momentum

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Pop Down Wednesday, 9 Oct 2024 at 8:31am

Sorry

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Pop Down Wednesday, 9 Oct 2024 at 8:33am

Humans got addicted to Generating Power , Blackers .

It made it much Easier to survive and our numbers went off the charts .
It became our way of Life .

After a 100 years plus of good times , the addiction is causing big problems .

Lucky we have Nuclear Fusion coming .

We can have unlimited Energy and won't have to go through terrible withdrawal symptoms trying to Stop an addiction .

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shoredump Wednesday, 9 Oct 2024 at 8:36am

100% Pop

Let’s see how the cards fall

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old-dog Wednesday, 9 Oct 2024 at 8:57am

Just last week Trump called climate change the biggest hoax of our times, and that the planet is getting cooler not warmer.
He might soon be the leader of the free world, and his millions of followers would blindly follow him off a cliff.

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Craig Thursday, 10 Oct 2024 at 9:06am

Crazy..

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Craig Thursday, 10 Oct 2024 at 9:19am

And one of the locations impacted..

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basesix Thursday, 10 Oct 2024 at 9:49am

keep the info and analysis coming, Craig. Hope people are ok, and devastation is minimal, but the inundation and power of this will be like watching godzilla step out of the gulf of mexico and shake-off before heading off to bermuda.

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Craig Thursday, 10 Oct 2024 at 10:16am

Digressing slightly from Milton, this year was the 2nd lowest on record for sea ice extent across Antarctica (2023 was the lowest)..

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/event-tracker/2024-antarctic-sea-i...