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burleigh wrote:etarip wrote:SD - the rape case (civil) is separate to the stormy Daniel’s campaign violation (criminal) case. Which is separate to the classified documents case. And the other cases.
If that helps.
Plenty of rea$ons to have a civil case. 83.3 million of them actually.
What are all 12 complainants going to have
a class action against Trump ?
Juliang wrote:If Trump gives Ukraine to Putin, as he’s hinting , That will embolden Putin to take other
NATO countries, because he knows Trump
might not stop him,
there’s the 3rd world war scenario ,
Which Trump projected onto Kamala !
What a crock of shit.
The US violated agreements on NATO expansion and staged a coupe of a democratically elected government and installed a puppet government. Geez mate catch up.
Juliang wrote:If Trump gives Ukraine to Putin, as he’s hinting , That will embolden Putin to take other
NATO countries, because he knows Trump
might not stop him,
there’s the 3rd world war scenario ,
Which Trump projected onto Kamala !
What a crock of shit.
The US violated agreements on NATO expansion and staged a coupe of a democratically elected government and installed a puppet government. Geez mate catch up.
Sorry, triple banged it.
@ soggy dog
Well Trump says he can stop the Ukraine war in a very short period of time., but wouldn’t say how .So I know you’re a trusting guy,
but who knows what he’s going to do ?
But hopefully if enough people can understand the 164 pages of new damning
evidence released Today , on the Jan 6 insurrection, we won’t have to worry about it.
Juliang wrote:burleigh wrote:etarip wrote:SD - the rape case (civil) is separate to the stormy Daniel’s campaign violation (criminal) case. Which is separate to the classified documents case. And the other cases.
If that helps.
Plenty of rea$ons to have a civil case. 83.3 million of them actually.
What are all 12 complainants going to have
a class action against Trump ?
you changed the number. LMAO
@ Burleigh
Yeah I changed the number , At least
I know when I’m wrong
Which you guys never do , against all odds .
burleigh wrote:etarip wrote:Pop Down wrote:Thanks etarip
At least you confirm Trump wasn't a Rapist . .
Trump has been judged by a jury of his peers, in his home state, to have raped Jean E Carroll. Not sure how you interpret that any other way.
.Why did she need 83 million dollars from him 28 year later at 80 years old?
I dunno mate, but that’s kind of irrelevant to the adjudication that Trump raped the complainant.
etarip wrote:burleigh wrote:etarip wrote:Pop Down wrote:Thanks etarip
At least you confirm Trump wasn't a Rapist . .
Trump has been judged by a jury of his peers, in his home state, to have raped Jean E Carroll. Not sure how you interpret that any other way.
.Why did she need 83 million dollars from him 28 year later at 80 years old?
I dunno mate, but that’s kind of irrelevant to the adjudication that Trump raped the complainant.
I was just curious what a book writer that wrote a book about trump in 2019 would need 83.3 million dollars at 80 years old.
An inquisitive mind is a healthy mind.
But do we agree that the motivation of the complainant or the amount awarded, (which was determined by the judge), is irrelevant to the question of whether Trump was found by a jury, on the basis of probability, to have committed the act in question?
etarip wrote:An inquisitive mind is a healthy mind.
But do we agree that the motivation of the complainant or the amount awarded, (which was determined by the judge), is irrelevant to the question of whether Trump was found by a jury, on the basis of probability, to have committed the act in question?
I don't know the case. The mind does wonder thinking about the money, timing and the motivation behind this assault from 28 years ago. Which of course Trump has denied the entire time. What evidence did they present to the jury?
soggydog wrote:Sorry, triple banged it.
was worthy of a triple bang for emphasis...
ukraine: one of the most corrupt and corrupted places on earth - NATO and nuland have a lot to answer for...
trump seems to be wisely pragmatic about it all
apparently he told zelensky he won't desert them anyway...
a different approach to the current blinded by ideology war pigs would be a good start
anyone who wants to comment on ukraine should watch oliver stone's 'Ukraine Is On Fire'
otherwise... ya just a bit bloody ignorant to be frank...
burleigh wrote:etarip wrote:An inquisitive mind is a healthy mind.
But do we agree that the motivation of the complainant or the amount awarded, (which was determined by the judge), is irrelevant to the question of whether Trump was found by a jury, on the basis of probability, to have committed the act in question?
I don't know the case. The mind does wonder thinking about the money, timing and the motivation behind this assault from 28 years ago. Which of course Trump has denied the entire time. What evidence did they present to the jury?
What evidence did they present? Enough for the jury to adjudicate that the incident occurred.
You don’t know the details of the case, but you know the payout and you make inferences about the motivation? Curious.
etarip wrote:burleigh wrote:etarip wrote:An inquisitive mind is a healthy mind.
But do we agree that the motivation of the complainant or the amount awarded, (which was determined by the judge), is irrelevant to the question of whether Trump was found by a jury, on the basis of probability, to have committed the act in question?
I don't know the case. The mind does wonder thinking about the money, timing and the motivation behind this assault from 28 years ago. Which of course Trump has denied the entire time. What evidence did they present to the jury?
What evidence did they present? Enough for the jury to adjudicate that the incident occurred.
You don’t know the details of the case, but you know the payout and you make inferences about the motivation? Curious.
You're right. I'm very curious. 83.3 million times curious. Did they have any physical proof or just someones word against another + her journalist friends.
sypkan][quote=soggydog wrote:Sorry, triple banged it.
was worthy of a triple bang for emphasis...
ukraine: one of the most corrupt and corrupted places on earth - NATO and nuland have a lot to answer for...
trump seems to be wisely pragmatic about it all
apparently he told zelensky he won't desert them anyway...
a different approach to the current blinded by ideology war pigs would be a good start
anyone who wants to comment on ukraine should watch oliver stone's 'Ukraine Is On Fire'
otherwise... ya just a bit bloody ignorant to be frank...[/quote}
Great doco Syp.
Surf trip read has been CHAOS by Tom O’niel. Three letter agencies and Charles Manson. Worth a look.
@sogydog
You’re the ignorant turd who thinks if someone hasn’t got enough time to finish your precious post and make a comment on it must be obviously bullshiting .
Just because you have nothing to do all day don’t assume what other people are doing,
That is ignorance ,
And before you spout more ignorance on authoritarianism, check out
Fascist scholars Jason Stanley’s opinion on the comparison between what’s happening in present day American and what was happening in Germany in the 1920s. and 30s,
And your sykophant mate who has gone quiet now.
EXPIRED
2 July Ex Prez is exempt from Trumped Up Charges
21 July Prez Biden pulls out
23 Aug JFK jr pulls out (Still on the Ballot in 33 states?) Voting delayed for Weeks
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rfk-jr-map-on-the-ballot-states/
6 Sept 2024 Election Day 1 (3wks On Hold ) > 27th JFK removed from 3 Ballots, remains on 30 states
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/27/rfk-background-state-ballots-00...
On and on it goes...Where it stops...who knows!
https://www.newser.com/story/356997/kennedy-gets-no-help-from-supreme-co...
26 Sept Biden prescribes Free Covid Tests
Prioritized over Ballots > eg: Email Alerts for Covid Test Kits Delivery
30 Sept : Test Kits Shipping begins in Middle of Hurricane Helene
30 Sept : Shipping Strike + Hurricane Helene 120 Dead
https://www.forbes.com/sites/eriksherman/2024/09/30/hurricane-helene-and...
1 Oct : Prez Candidate Trump's X Donor Minister For Everything Evil saves America!
Musk / Trump US AID (500 Starlink Vote Counting Machines Save the Covid Test Kits ) Nuthin' Suss.
Biden / Harris wake up & order Trump / X man's US AID to stop Vote rigging his Emergency Big Pharma Election.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4907620-trump-musk-starlink-hurric...
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/elon-musk-starlink-brings...
eg: This Emergency Voter INFO is likely a dodgy Electoral Carriage Influenced by X Man Musk / Trump.
https://www.ncsbe.gov/voting/upcoming-election/helene-recovery-and-voting
Team USA save the Election + Prez Test Kits...but they were a Year too late! Huh!
C'mon tbb...You can not be serious! Not the Fuckin Bermuda Triangle is it..."You said it!"
Some reckon that the US Postal Ship was out there lost in the Bermuda Triangle for near on a Year?
Say Wot...Yer Full of shit tbb...stop this US Democratic Electoral Conspiracy this minute...
Afraid tbb can't do that...can we please continue...all will be revealed!
2 Oct : 12 million Covid Tests shipped thru Hell & High Water by USPS ....Mail must get thru!
2 Oct : 6 million Covid Tests Delivered > (But!) Wot now tbb...
[factcheck] Emails Alerted Test Kits had already...(Wait for it...) Expired a year ago in Dec 2023..
(Coughing Fit...Sputter!)
As said ...Prez Postal Ship was lost in the Bermuda Triangle for almost a year during Hurricane Helene!
No other sane reason to describe this Mystery...
Quit laughing...tbb is not making this shit up! Expect ya wanna verify Joe's Mass Vaxed Brain Foghorn.
You guys asked for this...Read the Expiry Date that the crew share...
https://www.threads.net/@chrisrcreates/post/DAjqpEBy9i0
https://www.reddit.com/r/ZeroCovidCommunity/comments/1ftzl9c/the_us_gov_...
Spooky Huh! Told ya...Another Bermuda Triangle Mystery
Official! Prez Biden's Mass Vaxed Brain Fog set in deep > Dec 2023...OMG people...so scary! Shivers!
Land of the Positively Free to Choose Whatever the hell ancient Cave Man Diagnosis ya like...
Is that the 2023 [+] Flood Water Mark or have ya got Omicron or Delta....What year is it! ZOMBIE!
Dems reckon ya gotta log on to choose Which Expired Sticker ya want to stick over the Mouldy Date.
Knock yerself out...might wanna wake up to yerself first...Like do ya Take the Dems' Test Vote [+] [-]
https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/coronavirus-covid-19-and-medical-dev...
Ok! Crew expect tbb to cough up some weird arse rescue plan to Solve the Bermuda Triangle Mystery!
#1 Make My Test Count > [Emergency] [+] Caretaker Mode Lockdown > in case Count swings South.
https://learn.makemytestcount.org/
#2 Site leads to Ma's Hot Apple Pie Therapy > Promo/s Vidz ...But! There is a sly But!
#3 (But! Not all of Joe's positively expired mouldy moth eaten crew qualify > see : Big Pharma's Bitch )
Wotz New in Year Old Expired Flood Rescued Emergency Tested Re-Election Campaigns.
#1 [Make My Test Count ] #2 Mum's Vid #3 Enroll in the [ PAXCESS ] Co Pay Card (Save up to $1,500 )
Sorry if that Alarms you...That's tbb's Kinda Election Campaign Rort...BRAINZ ... ONEOFUS!
https://www.paxlovid.com/enroll-in-co-pay-program
Bonus shitfuckery...
Prez is misleading Voters with his duelling USPS Expired Make My Bermuda Triangle Test Count.
Like what the fuck USPS Priority Test Count Thingy just expired Prez Joe's Dec 2023 Election Campaign.
How about hot wiring a Scam Test Alert mid Electoral Campaign...just to make yer Test Vote more confusing...
https://www.wgal.com/article/scammers-targeting-consumers-free-covid-tes...
See coz like Priority Test / Vote / Vax Expiry Registration floods Health Hub Polling Places...Say Wot?
All up on the same dashboard side by side (Make yer Expired Test Vote Count)
https://harwich-ma.gov/?contentId=03409c8d-e2c6-4b17-852c-5aacf26ed102
Why Not Register to Vote at Yer Expired Test Centre...can put yer Vote to the Test!
Which one is Priority...the email tracked Test or the Health Check Up Test...does yer Vote Rego Count.
https://bphc.hrsa.gov/compliance/scope-project/voter-requirements
https://vot-er.shop/
What year is it Joe...often gets this wrong...
When did ya last Vax or Test for Covid...do ya even read the expiry dates...
Nothing really matters...to me!
https://nypost.com/2024/07/05/us-news/defiant-biden-vows-im-the-nominee-...
Ok! Now The Stamps...(Wot about the Stamps!) All act Stupid!
Seems like a sleeper...gotta wait till vote counting...Stamps / Watermarks
USPS mandate all USPS Ballots be Date stamped on Envelope or Stamp...Got it!
But!
Not all Post Offices are USPS as such...Crew know...Like Out back Shop / Pub / Pizza Bar Post Office....
So! They recommend Voters to "Ask These dodgy proprietors for a Potato Stamp...or it's not Legit!
Read the fine print
[ Post marking of Ballots] Requesting a Postmark from one of 30,000 Retail Associates..
Meaning exactly wot it says > 30,000 Could not give a fuck if they stamp a traitor's Ballot...well durr!
That's how they Boot Scoot in Sun Down Town...you can all hear about it in court next month!
https://about.usps.com/what/government-services/election-mail/pdf/fact-s...
All crew absolutely know for sure that just one downunder Surf Site blogger read that USPS memo.
And none read his blog...So the Yank's sued each other again without reading the rule book...All say Aye!
Well done TBB !
Seems like the Union Movement in the US doesn't want to be involved in THIS election .
The International Association of Firefighters just said they won't Endorse anyone .
They are the 2nd Union after The Teamsters , did the same .
The Teamsters somehow Poll their own members .
As 58% of them liked Tump and 38% Harris , they decided to sit on the fence .
WW3 is closer than ever. If you don’t believe America is already deeply involved in the Middle East then you’re a moron……..
Israel will target oil refinery’s in Iran, then it’s on.
Hard to believe the village idiot could be even more stupider than usual. That historical sexual abuse should be given a free pass as it happened years ago. Based off that display he will start to excuse Pell and the church for their abuse…and those abused are only in it for money.
Can he go any lower full fuckwittery? I’m guessing yes he can.
Don’t let us down, burls.
Juliang wrote:@sogydog
You’re the ignorant turd who thinks if someone hasn’t got enough time to finish your precious post and make a comment on it must be obviously bullshiting .
Just because you have nothing to do all day don’t assume what other people are doing,
That is ignorance ,
And before you spout more ignorance on authoritarianism, check out
Fascist scholars Jason Stanley’s opinion on the comparison between what’s happening in present day American and what was happening in Germany in the 1920s. and 30s,
And your sykophant mate who has gone quiet now.
I do believe there is a ‘c’ in sycophant……., I’m just saying. AW
Hypocrisy is a delicious dish. :)
And my last post was about a doco I liked and a book I’ve been reading while on holidays. Must’ve been exhausting to read. Replying was obviously an exercise in time management.
The two Wars in Europe and the ME have ALL the Worlds Players involved and lined up on either side .
Both Wars are escalating as we head into November .
The New President , either one , needs to want to stop the slaughter .
Dick Chaney types want the wars to continue .
The new President should go and meet Putin immediately .
Say that the Old Minsk Agreement that he did sign , was Dishonoured by NATO , as confirmed by Merkel .
Apologise for that and say it won't happen again on their watch .
Put that agreement back on the table , Minsk 2 .
Say sign it now , or Moscow will likely be Nuked by the US in the too near future , the horrible truth .
That agreement will ensure Ukraine will survive and that Russia has defined Boundaries .
Same with the other European countries .
Ukraine should NOT be rearmed , use money to build homes etc .
If Europe can stop fighting , that will deescalate tensions between the US , Russia and China .
Iran is backed by Russia and China , Israel the US .
Then EVERYONE can bring pressure on Israel and Iran to settle down .
Roadkill wrote:Hard to believe the village idiot could be even more stupider than usual. That historical sexual abuse should be given a free pass as it happened years ago. Based off that display he will start to excuse Pell and the church for their abuse…and those abused are only in it for money.
Can he go any lower full fuckwittery? I’m guessing yes he can.Don’t let us down, burls.
Free pass? I was just questioning her motive$
Anyone who thinks Trump can stop wars by threatening to nuke Moscow or Iran is fooling themselves. Putin would just laugh at him, call his bluff and do what he wants. Then Trump is left with only two options, start WW3 or look weak and suffer a bruised ego, I think most people know which option a megalomaniac like Trump would choose.
Morning old dog
Using your logic , if Putin knows Trump is a megalomaniac , Trump is not Bluffing Putin about nuking Moscow .
Trump stopped Iran's Economy in its tracks with Sanctions , which don't usually work .
He was smart and reacted an old UN rule to stop Iran selling arms and put embargoes on their Oil .
The Iranian economy collapsed making funding of Defence and Terrorist handouts too tough and things went quiet.
The UN , Europe thought Trump too tough on Iran and said so .
Biden came in and let Iran Off the hook and off the leech .
Biden/Harris gave them $10B that was frozen to spend on nice things .
Irans Economy came back and money started to flow again , guess where ?
Trump is a confirmed No War Candidate .
Is Harris cut off the same cloth ?
No way imo .
https://m.
Great post below southern and the US Arms industry is just as powerful today .
I don't think it carries the same weight in China or Russia .
It takes at least two to do the War tango .
Russia could get fed up playing the US Game and nuke Kiev .
Gordon Sondland was the US Ambassador to the European Union .
He was the Star witness against Trump in the First Impeachment .
Hates Trump involvement in Jan 6th Capital Hill riot .
He freaked out the MSNBC host when he said , after seeing what Biden and Harris has done to the country for 3 and a half years , he is now voting for Trump .
He said the attacks on Democracy done by Biden/Harris , eclipse what Trump did on the 6th .
Guessing Gordon is not a Billionaire , but I take note of his view .
A Sondland trumps a Chaney imho .
"Before and during the Second World War, American industries had successfully converted to defense production as the crisis demanded, but out of the war, what Eisenhower called a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions emerged. This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience Eisenhower warned, "[while] we recognize the imperative need for this development...We must not fail to comprehend its grave implications we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence…The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist." Eisenhower cautioned that the federal government’s collaboration with an alliance of military and industrial leaders, though necessary, was vulnerable to abuse of power. Ike then counseled American citizens to be vigilant in monitoring the military-industrial complex."
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/eisenhower-warns-of-military...
And this was in the 60s!!
Who's supplying weaponry to Ukraine and Israel?
There won't b a world war 3. Just more of the same with a few flare ups all in the name of keeping that industry booming.
old-dog wrote:Anyone who thinks Trump can stop wars by threatening to nuke Moscow or Iran is fooling themselves. Putin would just laugh at him, call his bluff and do what he wants. Then Trump is left with only two options, start WW3 or look weak and suffer a bruised ego, I think most people know which option a megalomaniac like Trump would choose.
There ain’t much going on upstairs is there olddog?
Now it’s uncovered
@ burls, you reckon Trump is a great man and a great leader and has healthy mind, and you accuse me of not having anything going on upstairs.
Coming from you I'll wear that as a badge of honour champ.
So explain to us exactly how he will stop ww3 as you keep claiming Einstein.
A lot of MAGA fans interviewed have never heard of
Right Wing republican looney
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Or didn’t know Trump had been indicted
Hey old dog
Let's hope the new President can stop WW3 .
As southernraw's post highlights , the US War Machine is powerful .
The NEOCON's have too much Clout in the US .
China and Russia Leadership don't let their Military's tell them what to do .
Any new President needs to stop listening to the NEOCON's so much , for a start .
burleigh wrote:old-dog wrote:Anyone who thinks Trump can stop wars by threatening to nuke Moscow or Iran is fooling themselves. Putin would just laugh at him, call his bluff and do what he wants. Then Trump is left with only two options, start WW3 or look weak and suffer a bruised ego, I think most people know which option a megalomaniac like Trump would choose.
There ain’t much going on upstairs is there olddog?
You read any papers on nuclear strategy / deterrence theory of late burlz? Expert at this now?
Edit: Spotify just dropped 99 Luftballons into the playlist. Totes appropes.
https://m.
Short (ish) primer on changes to Russian nuclear doctrine and what it might mean.
Mark G has a pretty good take on Putin et al.
https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/in-moscows-shadows/id1510124746?i=...
Or, just wait for PD to dribble some more bullshit. It’s probably due.
Jordanian skywatcher has the most incredible footage of Iranian missile attack going over and some being intercepted
https://www.instagram.com/zaidmalabbadi/reel/DAoE50zNop_/
Has a real Chronicles of Riddick feel to it, something we've probably never seen before. Maybe the doodlebug attacks on London in WW2 might have looked similar, but they weren't being intercepted (some, in space!).
old-dog wrote:@ burls, you reckon Trump is a great man and a great leader and has healthy mind, and you accuse me of not having anything going on upstairs.
Coming from you I'll wear that as a badge of honour champ.
So explain to us exactly how he will stop ww3 as you keep claiming Einstein.
You shouldn’t……. Champ
velocityjohnno wrote:Jordanian skywatcher has the most incredible footage of Iranian missile attack going over and some being intercepted
https://www.instagram.com/zaidmalabbadi/reel/DAoE50zNop_/
Has a real Chronicles of Riddick feel to it, something we've probably never seen before. Maybe the doodlebug attacks on London in WW2 might have looked similar, but they weren't being intercepted (some, in space!).
Streuth!! Crazy to think how many millions or billions of dollars are going up in smoke there. Better than option B though.
It’s pretty funny, especially Hillary
@info, what label you using for Twiggy?
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/twiggy-forrest-s-donations-to...
Now then, who's for tea?
Very funny clip soggydog .
I like Trump as Starsky :) !
Kamala had a Tea Party with the Chaney's .
Harris said she loved Dick .
That Dick has been so good , for the US of A .
Chaney is a weird choice of bedfellow and shouldn't be invited into any House .
Harris is very smart and should have run an " Authentic " Campaign .
She could have done lots of interviews and just be herself and Fight for the right to be President .
Her long term stance on Fracking and Immigration , should have been defended .
She could have made some minor concessions to show pragmatism .
But no , we get a Stage Show of a New Joyous Campaign that's stage managed .
Her Campaign Managers should be fired .
Trump has exactly the Same Campaign , MAGA .
His baggage was known in 2016 .,
The US people have watched him since and have seen how he has been treated .
They have watched him get shot .
Trump looks a bit older but much the same .
Authenticity is a major part of a persons Character .
Hugging a NEOCON like Chaney , has stuffed Harris's campaign big time !
Jumping into bed with the Biggest NEOCON is a Bridge too far .
Watch out for the October Surprise .
Laughing at the judge , and then pleading, won’t get you out of a 9 year sentence.
Hello Heeby
This is a VERY interesting Case !
Tina gave the judge the heeby jeebies and he called her the Most Defiant Defendant off ALL Time .
She was a Lone Wolf that wanted to change an Election .
Similar to the last assassin , perhaps ?
The Judge has also set an Important Precedent .
Anyone thinking of Tampering with THIS Election will have a Number 9 ( my favourite number ) to think about .
It is a hefty sentence and good on the Judge !
Not a lone wolf, she conspired with others,
and had a long list of election deniers
trying to defend her in court.
Listen to the transcript
Any Co conspirators should also have been charged and jailed , surely !
Election Fraud is usually a Gang affair , get them all !
Pop Down wrote:Any Co conspirators should also have been charged and jailed , surely !
Tone deaf hypocrite PD misses the irony…again.
That would be Trump…who is/was the main puppet master / co conspirator..
Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank