The United States(!) of A
Well they probably are, or have been charged or sentenced.
Pop Down wrote:Any Co conspirators should also have been charged and jailed , surely !
Election Fraud is usually a Gang affair , get them all !
Can this guy get any more dim witted..doubling down on his man.
PD tied with burl’s in the race to peak stupid.
burl’s defending and promoting a sexual abuser.
PD wanting to lock up election fraudsters whilst promoting the election fraudster in chief.
Roadkill wrote:PD tied with burl’s in the race to peak stupid.
burls defending and promoting a sexual abuser.
PD wanting to lock up election fraudsters whilst promoting the election fraudster in chief.
I’m sure these guys are part of the whole
propaganda machine.
That’s why they never give up.
Then surely Trump should also get 9 years as he is still claiming he won the election and peddling the same conspiracy theories as her.
old-dog wrote:Then surely Trump should also get 9 years as he is still claiming he won the election and peddling the same conspiracy theories as her.
Well yes,that’s all coming up and a whole lot more,if he loses the election
If he wins everyone could get pardoned , and that’s where the whole Democracy/ Dictatorship argument begins and ends.
Hey old dog
The woman did't get 9 years for peddling conspiracy theories OR Claiming Trump won the election .
That's NOT Illegal , yet !
You Guys need to check the Video Tapes .
She Physically tried to Tamper with Numbers , Election Fraud !
The Judge seemed Fair .
Why weren't her apparent Helpers , also not charged ?
Get them all !
Hi Pop Down, how they hanging, so what you are saying is the only proof of election fraud to date is actually to help Trump win the election and not to steal it from him.
The woman got 9 years for action directed by those above. Trump knows what he says is acted upon. The believers are too stupid to know they are manipulated. Trump is the puppet master and is as responsible as this woman who like a multitude of Trump believers is now paying a price. Trump and co don’t give a fuck about the victims they create.
Pop Down wrote:Hey old dog
The woman did't get 9 years for peddling conspiracy theories OR Claiming Trump won the election .
That's NOT Illegal , yet !
You Guys need to check the Video Tapes .
She Physically tried to Tamper with Numbers , Election Fraud !
The Judge seemed Fair .
Why weren't her apparent Helpers , also not charged ?
Get them all !
Her helpers have probably already been charged or sentenced, that’s why the whole conspiracy has been investigated up to the head conspirator, guess who. And yes election denial claims are evidence.
And part of the investigation.
The reason it’s taken so long, is because Trump stacked the Supreme Court 6-0 before he left office.
All this information is readily available on YouTube, but we have to have a civil conversation , without actually accessing it
Because YouTube is evil .
Hi Old dog
I am going well .
I am not saying what you said and just applauded a Judge that jailed a Proven Election fraudster .
Hilary still claims the Russians stole the Election from her .
Her co conspirators initiated Russia Gate and tried to Impeach Trump .
It was Proved Wrong , in the Courts of Washington , to the dismay of Clinton .
She wasn't Charged with anything .
Trump being Trump and Never accepting defeat , claimed he was Robbed .
That's not a surprise to me .
But you Guys want Trump hide , so he is Singled out for Special Trump treatment .
Its so hypocritical imho .
edit
Heeby
The Court was not the Supreme and six Supreme Court judges did't retire in Trumps term .
@popdown
Maybe because Hillary didn’t orchestrate an insurrection
Talk about not getting things in perspective
lol
So Hilary had to stage a Coup , to get in trouble for Election Interference , as an attempt at Impeachment wasn't enough .
Trump has TWO Court Cases , Hilary none .
That's a different perspective !
Pop Down wrote:lol
So Hilary had to stage a Coup , to get in trouble for Election Interference , as an attempt at Impeachment wasn't enough .
They then try and bring down Trump with a Second Impeachment using Ukraine , the Corruption Capital of the World .
Again they miss .
In the last Election they did get him , just !!!
Trump has TWO Court Cases , Hilary none .
That's a different perspective !
Pop Down wrote:lol
So Hilary had to stage a Coup , to get in trouble for Election Interference , as an attempt at Impeachment wasn't enough .
Trump has TWO Court Cases , Hilary none .
That's a different perspective !
Well maybe Hillary should have had a trial as you say , but she wouldn’t be facing nearly as much time as Trump and his violent
coconspirators .
Hillary made accusations which weren’t able to be proven.
Whereas Trump had a whole conspiracy team , who actually undertook election interference and conducted an insurrection
Heeby wrote:@popdown
Maybe because Hillary didn’t orchestrate an insurrection
Talk about not getting things in perspective
you are aware a democrats constructed show trial, that went for months and months and months, and probably cost a billion dollars...
designed to find trump guilty of a so called 'insurrection'
couldn't even find trump guilty of said insurrection...
you are aware of that aren't you?
please put the insurrection word to bed
you are simply parroting and propagating proven wrong propaganda...
'misinformation' if you will...
reporting and using to such language just exposes the sources you're accessing (e.g. msnbc) and your propensity to not think things through...
sypkan wrote:Heeby wrote:@popdown
Maybe because Hillary didn’t orchestrate an insurrection
Talk about not getting things in perspectiveyou are aware a democrats constructed show trial, that went for months and months and months, and probably cost a billion dollars...
designed to find trump guilty of a so called 'insurrection'
couldn't even find trump guilty of said insurrection...
you are aware of that aren't you?
please put the insurrection word to bed
you are simply parroting and propagating proven wrong propaganda...
'misinformation' if you will...
reporting and using to such language just exposes the sources you're accessing (e.g. msnbc) and your propensity to not think things through...
Well maybe if you check YouTube, Jack Smith drops damning 165 page report on insurrection conspiracy, like 2 days ago
You might know what you’re talking
You don’t have misinformation
You have no information
Sorry Heeby but Trump has a team and Hilary had the Whole System working on the Two Impeachments !
The Star Muller and his $US40m Investigative Cartel including the FBI and CIA .
Months of hard work .
Trump apparently orchestrated the Worst attempt at Insurrection of ALL Time !
He Publicised it , for everyone to turn up and only a Rabble of Thugs turned up .
Somehow they got IN and trashed the Sacred Building causing carnage .
More Trump B/S crowds numbers .
Imagine him having the hide to run again , after such a poor turn out .
He would have NO chance !
Pop Down wrote:Sorry Heeby but Trump has a team and Hilary had the Whole System working on the Two Impeachments !
The Star Muller and his $US40m Investigative Cartel including the FBI and CIA .
Months of hard work .
Trump apparently orchestrated the Worst attempt at Insurrection of ALL Time !
He Publicised it , for everyone to turn up and only a Rabble of Thugs turned up .
More Trump B/S crowds numbers .
Well you should be able to see the difference between a court case ,and a violent riot,which cost 5 lives
Sure can Heeby .
Unfortunately I hear about violent riots that cost lives happening way to often .
Many are not Publicised so not Policed properly .
The Two Impeachments are not " a court case " .
They happen Infrequently and are ignited to Bring Down a President .
A Legal assisination .
If Trump is found guilty in a Fair Court , throw him in jail and he will get a longer sentence than Hilary !
That's fair enough imho .
Heeby wrote:sypkan wrote:Heeby wrote:@popdown
Maybe because Hillary didn’t orchestrate an insurrection
Talk about not getting things in perspectiveyou are aware a democrats constructed show trial, that went for months and months and months, and probably cost a billion dollars...
designed to find trump guilty of a so called 'insurrection'
couldn't even find trump guilty of said insurrection...
you are aware of that aren't you?
please put the insurrection word to bed
you are simply parroting and propagating proven wrong propaganda...
'misinformation' if you will...
reporting and using to such language just exposes the sources you're accessing (e.g. msnbc) and your propensity to not think things through...
Well maybe if you check YouTube, Jack Smith drops damning 165 page report on insurrection conspiracy, like 2 days ago
You might know what you’re talking
You don’t have misinformation
You have no information
well heeby jeebies...
as per my post above, it would seem the 'insurrection' kerfuffle has been dealt with...
with a conclusion of...
no insurrection
the 'new evidence', seems to be a technical legal argument, as to whether trump was acting in a presidential capacity or a private capacity... and hence... acting 'illegally', and therefore, not the beneficiary of presidential immunity...
no mention of insurrection
what we do have:
new statements, FBI phone logs, and a new angle from Jack smith
new statements, from ANONNYMOUS sources...
again...
new fbi phone logs, going over the same 'trump said... he said... she said...' bullshit...
again...
and a new, desperately biased, angle from jack smith...
again...
I'm not saying there's no 'there' there... It is trump after all..
just that it's the same old (rehashed) bullshit ...trying once again...
again...
let's see how it pans out...
this time!
(without the hysterics, and the guilty as charged language - without actually being found guilty mind you...)
it's almost as though they're trying to fill the airwaves with accusations and innuendo...
again...
'flood the zone with bullshit'
(or however steve bannon worded it)
CNN:
(no less)
a pretty extensive rundown - about not much at all...
it would seem...
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/02/politics/jack-smith-donald-trump-fili...
we will see
again...
So you obviously don’t understand it
Stop wasting peoples time
try reading champ
CNN
not me
that msnbc video algorithm will cook your brain
if you allow it...
I’m at the beach can someone else explain it
Try Michael pockock but you probably won’t be able to understand him either because he’s a lawyer
https://m.
heebs, if I was to take your and the deranged's... 'we've got him this time!' ...hyperbole at face value...
I could expect to see this story splashed all over the front page of the Interwebs various outlets - right across the political spectrum!
but it's not - only the usual suspects are running it, with the religious fervor you display...
I find 'the hill' is a good gauge of a breaking story, they are one of few outlets that actually endeavour to report 'facts' without partisan bias
being called 'the hill' - politics is what they do... thats it! ...yet even they are hardly running it, with one down page story getting a run yesterday...
the whole thing has a stench of same same...
bullshit...
now maybe you haven't been paying attention over the last 8 years or so.. and are now all caught up in the 'significance' of it all...
but it seems even the washington press are a bit unmoved by these ground breaking developments...
a real aura of ... 'here go again...'
as I said... we will see...
but please do read
a bit at least...
these two 'opposing' sources would be a good start
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/02/politics/jack-smith-donald-trump-fili...
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/jack-smiths-october-surprise-court-legal-pol...
and do check this out... for such a highly placed legacy media outlet - such as msnbc...
I'd say having a rating BELOW 'mostly factual' ...is a little bit of a damn scathing endorsement...
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/msnbc/
don't you think?
Spykans
Don’t take my word for it
Try listening very carefully to Mr Weismann
If you still don’t get it
Give up
You do have the intelligence of the average MAGA
These videos are all 1 or 2 days old
msnbc
again...
MTN
bahahahaha....
(do google them)
sorry, it is you that... ' still don't get it'
I do give up...
bye
According to Wiki The Attack on Capital Hill was carried out by the Proud Boys Oath Keepers and other Rabble , all supporters of Trump .
Trump has more intelligence than the Average MAGA who even knows , to stage a Real Insurrection , a Revolt against a sitting government of the US , it would have to be a Military Coup .
Trump would have worn a Uniform .
The Thugs were egged on by Trump and the Protest turned very ugly and into a Riot .
I have no idea what this rabble were trying to accomplish with the " Demo " .
Pence had signed Trumps Good Bye Papers the Day before .
Trump would not have expected the Thugs to get Entry into the US Monument .
In NO Other Country in the World , would Security Forces allow a small group to Trash a Sacred Site , at the Plea of a Weak Ex Leader .
I can't believe how they worked their way in , announced .
The egging on of the thugs by Trump,
is a crucial piece of the evidence , in his upcoming election interference trial, as are many conversations with indicted coconspiritors , who have rolled over.
Some coconspiritors who said they had evidence of a stolen election , but refused to
hand it over (because they didn’t have any)
are also getting in big trouble for making false declarations , and withholding evidence.
Pop down is starting to look like Einstein, compared to sykpan
Can not make this stuff up people...
North Carolina & Qld voting for Nazis before Bros'...
https://www.thechronicle.com.au/news/queensland/labor-mp-caught-up-in-hi...
Can hodad tbb defend the indefensible!
Well...notice now both Right (vs) Left Voters can equally Vote for Nazis!
tbb can vouch that Royals / Thatcher / Joh / Reagan and fellow Nazi Empire Pollies only ever wore their Nazi Costume at VIP fancy dress balls!...We their subjected, oppressed, censored, curfew'd, bashed up Rebel Youth Cults had to wear our's daily from ...Surf Nazis / Bikerz / Punkz / Skins all had to wear our Police State Nazi propaganda everyday...
Gonna need a bigger firing Squad coz all us abused innocents are goin' straight to hell!
Does tbb really need to share that during 1960/70/80's it were the Jews mostly wearing & exploiting Nazi propaganda with esteemed pride...coz tbb 'd get shot for speaking such blatant truth!
Just saying for today's expert factcheckers to stop rewriting history to suit today's narrative...can't fool us Hodads coz we know Jews wore it & know exactly why we also wore it...but are now banned from sharing such...Why! Coz now it's forever labelled a crime...out of context before we even get to speak...whatever which way we care to exempt ourselves alongside innocent brother Jews of our era.
Today's Fashion Police are mandated never to listen to the truth & guess wot...we understand your new beaut censored world better than you ever could! Been there, done that & was threatened, judged & trialled every single fucking time tbb stepped outside but never once for wearing Nazi Shit, even if tbb did or didn't all around did..because it was least relevant that every Left Wing Rally for peace & freedom was steeped in Nazi Propaganda...we know why & don't need to explain such obvious reason to the likes of expert out of context mandated factchecked censors! Past insight buys wisdom into why today's Govts feels the need to mandate such contrived ai generated grammarly envoys! So in that strict sense... tbb ain't persecuting ghosts from his past that least relate to the here and now...
Israel hot wires Global Tech supply chain > extending their killing of 10,000's to over 40 nations...
Pollie's aides drool over mass terror attack wizards...while world is held prisoner to press a button.
Don't care or need to share...coz without saying a word...
World are least offended by an '80's Schoolies T shirt or Porn Mag Puff Daddy pimp pieces.
Can factcheck as many T shirts as ya like...but all now brand the same thing louder than ever before!
@ pop down
This is also from Wikipedia
“The rioters sought to keep Trump in power,
by occupying the Capitol , and preventing a joint session of congress from counting the Electoral college votes, to formalise the victory of President-Elect Joe Biden .”
Jan 6th was a significant date for the insurrection.
gosh
If they thought that the US would give back power to Trump by doing Sit Down protest for a few days , they were all gaga .
Even killing hostages would have no effect , except to quicken the end of a horrible siege .
Please tell me how they were able to get In and disrupt the place ???
The Breaching of the Gates , caused the Protest to turn into a Riot that killed people .
A group of Thugs can't possibly cause a Change of Power in the US , it's was a complete Security Stuff Up , again !
Like the first assignation attempt .
Biden was Always going to get his Crown .
https://iview.abc.net.au/show/america-are-you-ok/series/2024
America, are you ok?
Pop Down wrote:gosh
If they thought that the US would give back power to Trump by doing Sit Down protest for a few days , they were all gaga .
Please tell me how they were able to get In and disrupt the place ???
The Breaching of the Gates , caused the Protest to turn into a Riot that killed people .
A group of Thugs can't possibly cause a Change of Power in the US , it's was a complete Security Stuff Up , again !
Like the first assignation attempt .
Biden was Always going to get his Crown .
Trump and MAGA are all Gaga
Haven’t you worked that out yet.
The insurrectionists all thought Trump
would save them, and a lot of them are still sitting in prison, while Trump plays golf.
Can’t see anything wrong with that?
I do see something very strange about what you said happened Heeby .
For them to think Trump would or Could help them , once they Stormed the Gate of Capitol Hill was absolute lunacy .
We all know Trump would not risk himself for them !!!
The Idiots can rot in Institutions or Jails for a while , while Trump continues to play Golf .
Let's see the US try and Jail other Protest Organisers that have demo's that turn into Riots .
We had a few down here recently , which can be a Start .
But your average demo or riot
Isn’t for the purpose of overturning an election result.
That comes from Wikipedia.
When Trump was told Vice President Pemce life was in danger because the mob wanted to hang him
His reply “ So what “
Trump told Pence he was going to go Public and Criticise him .
Poor Pence decided to shit himself before the Mob were even gathered - Wiki .
Trumps life is in Danger every minute , I can understand him not giving a Stuff about Pence .
And you want to hang Trump for his part in this mess ?
You obviously read my posts , I have said the Protest became a Riot once the Gates were breached .
I said No Security Service in the World would let what was a Crazed mob of bloody lunatics , into a National Monument .
You have ignored the most perplexing question that caused the 5 deaths .
Why mate ?
For the 4th time , how did the lunatics breach the Asylum ?
The lunatics were able to breach the asylum
because everyone underestimated , just how loony the Trump cult were .
Just as you are doing now.
The rioters and Trump had been planning the insurrection for weeks, that’s why so many people arrived there , for it.
@sypkan
You think Blindboy is back?
He started about ten Trump threads when Trump first ran for president.
I see pretty clearly how extreme both the Right and Left Lunatics can be Heeby .
I have been watching them operate a lot longer than you .
I would never underestimate what any Extremist would do .
I live in Melbourne and have seen first hand , their work .
So , the Governor , FBI who were there , CIA ,etc ALL underestimated what the Proud Boys would or could do ?
Just another Major Stuff Up , as I said !
But it's Trumps fault because he was playing golf .
Everyone turned up on Jan 6th as ALL had plenty of warning , except Trump and a Security Team to protect The Hill and the Place went up in flames .
Hope so
And Roy Please come back. . .
@PopDown said
"Like the first assignation attempt ."
The fkn what??!!!
Whachoo talkin' 'bout Willis??!!
Knucklehead. You're tertiary educated, 67 years old, successful, a father, retired, travelled.
Get your words right FFS if you are going to bother with this foolishness and nonsense here or there's a corner for you to get "assigned" to, not your "naughty" one either, the one with the chair facing the wall and the big pointy hat with the "D" on it.
Other than that, some good advocatin' for the MAGA train there old buddy. I don't understand half of it myself but I get your passion for the man. Me, I'm going on the 'makeup matrix' this election, the one who applies the least amount of makeup in public is the winner in my book, happens to be the woman in this contest but hey, it's the '20's man, it's all gender fluid right? Hammer time? (or is that over?)
Although I think JD Vance's eyeliner looks good on him, helps to accentuate his blue eyes, maybe he goes on a bit heavy a la Tim Minchin, maybe the idea of the "man of the house" wearing women's eyeliner in public contradicts his traditional Nazi views on women's rights, marriage, wombs and the like but...it's not "trans", definitely not "trans", there's absolutely no transexuality involved whatsoever. Like Trump, he's just a man that likes wearing a lot of makeup, it's simple, he likes the way it looks on him. Nothing wrong with it. Clowns wear makeup too,(!).
I just prefer my Presidents to wear less make up, so I'm afraid this time I'd have to vote for the woman.
Yes it's policy and personality void, but we all find different reasons.
Oh and even I can tell from the sporadic reads I have had of this enlightening dog ball sucking thread lately that this Heeby cat is Juliang. Same syntax dude, a little more imagination in the reinvention required there Chief.
Some reinventors here have gone to great lengths, new backstories, pretending they are "Hey y'all dudes" from MAGAland, new personalities, you name it.
Go back to @Juliang anyway, I like it. Never liked the christian name Julian much but you add a "g" on the end and it gives it a whole new twang, and it's fun to say.
Anyway...
Not supposed to be here.
Oops.
Bye
Heeby wrote:The lunatics were able to breach the asylum
because everyone underestimated , just how loony the Trump cult were .
Just as you are doing now.
The rioters and Trump had been planning the insurrection for weeks, that’s why so many people arrived there , for it.
Heeby.
So, what types of tea do you drink ? AW
"...that this Heeby cat is Juliang. Same syntax dude, a little more imagination..."
haha
that was my guess too...
very same same
indo-dreaming wrote:@sypkan
You think Blindboy is back?
He started about ten Trump threads when Trump first ran for president.
don't think so
for all his faults.. even bb wouldn't supply links as trashy as MTN...
I hope
Yeah true maybe Adam is right.
Ive been expecting a BB return through he was obsessed with Trump.
Edit: Actually you guys are 100% correct that media channel is that one that he shared videos from previously that was
"formed in March 2020 with the purpose of stopping the reelection of Donald Trump in the 2020 United States presidential election"
Yeah BB wasnt a big Youtube guy and if he did go on there he would stick to the Guardian or CNN or something.
udo wrote:Hope so
And Roy Please come back. . .
is that the NZ shaper dude?
if so, I was thinking about them the other day, as I was contemplating my quad versus tri setup... and speed and resistance versus loose and drive...
they had some good tussles about speed, resistance, volume, rocker, curves etc etc.
with bb being all scientific black and white physics and shit...
and roy being a bit meta-physics...
both made some good points
good discussions, that made ya think...
even if one was a bit dogmatic and blinded by science...
good tussles all round
(Just don't mention the cc thread...)
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