I, for one, welcome our new northerly overlords

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Ben Matson (thermalben)

South-east Queensland and Northern NSW Surf Forecast by Ben Matson (issued Monday 28th November)

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Best Days: No great days due to small swells and unfavourable winds. Probably early Tues at south swell magnets in Northern NSW as the last of the south swell pushes through (but before the N'ly gets too strong), or Fri with a chance for a period of light winds and a small new S'ly swell across the Mid North Coast.

Recap: The weekend largely played out as expected, with small surf throughout SE Qld, but Northern NSW picking up varying degrees of long period S’ly groundswell. Wave heights were strong out of the south all weekend but later Sunday and early Monday probably saw the biggest sets with south swell magnets picking up 4-5ft bombs. Unfortunately, persistent northerly winds have created problems most days though there have been small windows of opportunity, mainly in the mornings. 


Red tide at Sunshine today?



Oh, and Coffs was smoking this AM.

This week (Nov 29th - Dec 2nd)

It’s a tricky week ahead for surf forecasting purposes, but there is one underlying theme that will unite us for the next five days.

Northerly winds.

Well, that’s not entirely true for the whole region - a trough will move up the NSW coast on Friday, creating periods of light winds but the northerlies will return on Saturday.

So now we’ve got the wind regime established, let’s take a look at the swell prospects. 

Right now we’re on the backside of the last of the major southerly groundswell events. There’s still plenty of size across Southern NSW this afternoon though the trend is downwards; consequently south swell magnets across Northern NSW (south of Byron) should still see some 3ft sets early morning but with freshening northerlies you’ll have to sniff out a protected northern corner. Smaller surf is expected into the afternoon.

A small, low confidence S/SE swell may also push up the coast into Tuesday, generated by the parent low to the frontal progression that generated the weekend’s southerly swell. It was positioned south of New Zealand, so we’re only looking at the outer edges of this swell glancing the coast, but it’s plausible for inconsistent 2-3ft sets to appear at south facing beaches at times. This may hold into early Wednesday if we’re lucky.

Another small S’ly groundswell is then expected to nose into the lower Mid North Coast late Wednesday, originating from a small cut-off low south of Tasmania today. The fetch length is only small and it’s not especially well lined up within our swell window, but south facing beaches may pick up a few 2ft+ sets (more likely into Thursday morning, especially in the Far North). 

Both of these south swells are not being resolved by the swell models at all, so keep your expectations low. And with the northerly flow expected to be fresh for much of each day you will have to hunt out appropriate back beaches for the only rideable options.

Lastly, to finish the week we have yet another small unusual swell source that’s not really showing up on the models right now. The front mentioned above (for Wednesday’s S’ly swell) is expected to merge with a broad, stationary polar low well south of New Zealand on Tuesday. This parent system is expected to display S/SW gales through the periphery of our S/SE swell window, which should send up some small inconsistent waves for Friday across the Mid North Coast  - maybe not until the afternoon, with Saturday a safer bet for the Far North Coast (even then it’s a longshot).

Of course, all week these northerly winds will generate small weak windswells, but the only fetch of any interest looks like it’ll develop late Thursday, meaning early Friday may see some small fun NE windswell across Northern NSW. I can't see much more than a couple of feet of weak peaky surf though.

As for SE Qld this week (whoops! Almost forgot this neck of the woods with the poor wind outlook) - there’s not much to look forward to.

A broad SE fetch through the Coral Sea associated with a tropical low south of the Solomons may generate some small mid-range E/NE swell over the next day or two, but probably just for the Sunshine Coast at best with occasional peaky and tidally influenced 2ft sets. Expect smaller surf south of the Gold Coast from this source. 

Winds won’t be great anyway so it’s not worth too much effort.

Otherwise, the rest of the week will see tiny, wind affected gutless swells. Hooray for November! Hope you got barrelled last week...

This weekend (Dec 3rd - Dec 4th)

The weekend forecast looks dismal on the charts at the moment, with no major swells and variable tending onshore winds under a persistent troughy pattern. Winds will most likely be northerly both days across SE Qld and Far Northern NSW but we may see southerlies creep into the Mid North Coast at times. 

However, there’s yet ANOTHER swell generating system on the charts that’s not being resolved by the wave models very well and it could also produce some small rideable waves in Northern NSW (on a weekend when an ordinary glance would suggest no surfable activity). 

In the notes above for the small S/SE swell I mentioned for Friday, this stationary polar low is expected to also merge with a frontal infeed from the east. This kind of development isn’t such a rare occurrence, but the actual storm track and timeline is - we’re looking at the possibility of slow moving E’ly gales in an unusual part of our distant SE swell window, which could very well produce some occasional 2ft sets at exposed beaches four or five days later. 

Right now the arrival of this is hard to pin down but it seems there’s a great chance of it being a Sunday (rather than Saturday) swell event. 

I’ll have more info on this in Wednesday’s update.

Next week (Dec 5th onwards)

Nothing major on the long range charts. 

The tropical low south of the Solomons is not showing any sign that it’ll influence swell production in any part of our swell window… yet. It’s expected to track on the windward side of New Caledonia mid-week then briefly freshen an easterly flow south of Fiji later this week and into the weekend, though no major surf is expected from this source right now.

Elsewhere, the Southern Ocean storm track looks zonal and the Tasman Sea looks weak and troughy.

So, we could be looking at an extended period of small flukey swells for some time.

See you Wednesday!

Comments

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thermalben Monday, 28 Nov 2016 at 6:08pm

Hmm.. red tide at Sunshine this arvo?

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mcsc Monday, 28 Nov 2016 at 6:41pm

2016 Best title for forecast notes

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stunet Monday, 28 Nov 2016 at 7:26pm

Don't encourage him...

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no-eye-deer Monday, 28 Nov 2016 at 8:56pm

Kent Brockman seconds this motion!

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thermalben Tuesday, 29 Nov 2016 at 12:33pm

Ha! Thanks mate. To be honest I usually give myself between five and ten seconds to think of a title, and once it's locked in I never look back (even if it pidgeon-holes the forecast as being overly optimistic or overly pessemistic, against what the broader notes suggest).

It's probably the most passe, overused Simpsons joke out there but I can't go too weird. 

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groovie Monday, 28 Nov 2016 at 6:42pm

Yeah Ben, the northerlies restricted this swell event today to back beaches with very average banks here on the Mid nth coast! A pity to see this swell go to waste! checked 4 different south facing locals with nothing happening of any quality due to poor banks/ wrong tide combo( mid tide)! Frustrating!!!

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donweather Monday, 28 Nov 2016 at 7:50pm

I'll expect a significant drop in water temp by the end of the week also.

Gotta love spring hey!!

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linez Monday, 28 Nov 2016 at 8:21pm

End of the week is summer

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the chase Monday, 28 Nov 2016 at 8:02pm

I have got to the bottem off the page and still can't find the postive bit ???

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freeride76 Monday, 28 Nov 2016 at 8:44pm

northerly episode rendered this whole south swell unsurfable, unless you took on rippy, close-outs on the back beaches.

and yes, water temp plummeted, which was fucked because there was some early season pelagics on the bite.
so, all in all, most unpleased huey.

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Nick Bone Monday, 28 Nov 2016 at 9:24pm

Water temps plummeted too what?

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thermalben Tuesday, 29 Nov 2016 at 8:40am

Some of the temps at the buoys remain unchanged, which us not unusual as sometimes they're too far offshore to see the Ekman influence.

As such the Tweed buoy is holding steady at 23°-24°, but in contrast the Goldy buoy dropped from 24° over the weekend to 21.5°  this morning (oh, the horror!).

Brisbane was just over 25° over the weekend but is now around 24°, Mooloolaba is fluctuating around 24°-25°.

Byron has dropped from 23°-24°  over the weekend to 21°-ish.  

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TOS Monday, 28 Nov 2016 at 9:32pm

Can anyone tell me why Gallows is always empty? Looks like it's pumping!?

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thermalben Tuesday, 29 Nov 2016 at 8:43am

I'm baffled too!

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freeride76 Tuesday, 29 Nov 2016 at 8:45am

Same reason as Tallows in a S swell and northerly.

rippy close-outs....Few random frames of photos can make it look good but in reality it isn't.

Take a look at the latest SST charts and you can clearly see the cooler inshore waters as a result of the latest northerly episode and resultant ekman transport.
http://www.bom.gov.au/oceanography/forecasts/idyoc13.shtml?region=13&for...

Click the loop and look at the cold tongue form from Brisbane south.

Most of the waverider buoys are just a bit too far offshore to really pick up the drop in inshore water temps.

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zendog75 Tuesday, 29 Nov 2016 at 9:23am

Managed to get one there on Monday morning, big, heavy, rippy and bounced me the hell all over the place, then it got too windy. hurrah.

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Craig Tuesday, 29 Nov 2016 at 10:30am

Steve, here's an even more amazing photo showing the upwelling!

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thermalben Tuesday, 29 Nov 2016 at 10:44am

Couple of interesting points:

1. Tweed upwelling not showing properly on buoy (note: CSIRO data is from y'day).
2. Argo data points east of Brisbane and east of Noosa looks to conflict with satellite derived SST?

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freeride76 Tuesday, 29 Nov 2016 at 11:36am

I stopped and checked the surf here for a while, gurgly but almost fun enough to paddle out.
Could see the drum-line a few hundred metres out.

Glad I didn't paddle out.....they got 2 ten foot plus whites there this morning.

Fucking hell, it's almost December and these fuckers are still here.

NSWDPI shark team have tagged and released 3.3m F White Shark at South Ballina Beach using SMART Drumline technology. Shark #65

NSWDPI shark team have tagged and released a 3.5m F White shark off Sharpes Beach, Ballina using SMART Drumline technology - Shark #66

Thats 3 in 3 days, all female and all 10ft plus. Way bigger than you want to have to deal with for shitt surf.

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saltman Tuesday, 29 Nov 2016 at 4:45pm

How far away do they release them?

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udo Tuesday, 29 Nov 2016 at 5:28pm

1km

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goofyfoot Wednesday, 30 Nov 2016 at 7:14am

That's it?
Back in 10 minutes

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Hako o hakonde ... Wednesday, 30 Nov 2016 at 7:25am

They don't kill them? What a joke.

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Hako o hakonde ... Wednesday, 30 Nov 2016 at 7:27am

They don't kill them?? What a joke!

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Halfscousehalfc... Tuesday, 29 Nov 2016 at 3:49pm

Maybe they're setting up a new nursery at the mouth of the Richmond? Port Stephens maybe full..... that's a gee up by the way

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thermalben Tuesday, 29 Nov 2016 at 5:09pm

Brief window of opportunity on the Tweed this morning with inconsistent sets around the 3ft mark. Not many spots picking up the size though and the northerly hacked into it pretty quickly.

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Domsurfs Tuesday, 29 Nov 2016 at 10:39pm

H guys what about the low up north east of Oz, can SE QLD expect anything from this Ta

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thermalben Wednesday, 30 Nov 2016 at 7:01am

As per the notes, nothing much is expected from this system.

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thermalben Wednesday, 30 Nov 2016 at 1:11pm

The northerlies don't to be quite as strong as the local weather stations are suggesting, wind strengths seem to be just below the threshold where conditions become really ratty (i.e. it's still bumpy, but workable).

Couple of 2ft+ sets showing at D'Bah from the SE too, but not much happening on the points.