Watch: Ain't That Swell // Crunch Time - Mackellar
This upcoming election may be of the vanilla variety: there are no ideological battles being fought, no big picture thinking to wrap your head around, and yet it may change the flavour of democracy in our wave-strewn land.
For the first time, Millenials are the largest voting cohort and pundits and punters alike are wondering if they'll tip the scales the way the Boomers did when they came of age. A voting majority cannot be ignored so how might that play out at the polls?
Vaughan and Jed head up Mackellar way, an electorate "that stretches from the wobbliest wave in the world at Curl Curl right up to the investment property capital of Australia, Palm Beach." Mackellar and surrounding electorates are where the independent surge first took place, with this coming election proving if it's an aberration or the new normal.
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Geez Stu, I have to disagree with "there are no ideological battles being fought". There absolutely is. Unless we want Trump-style nonsense politics to invade our country, we must make sure the LNP are kicked to the curb in two weeks.
Both Trump and clown before him are "nonsense" to me. Albo & the bald guy are non-sense to me. TEALs also. My impression for my personal point of view is they are all foreign globalist puppets. I recall Albo, prior to being PM, after Israel's decision, was the first to suggest 3 or 4 month boosters for a useless fake vaccine. While Israel literally erases Gaza, Albo surrounds himself with Zionists while preaching a Two State Solution, which is contrary to Israel's viewpoint. Its OK, Albo bought a $4M whatever holiday or rental or whatever house overlooking Wilko's Left at Copacabana Beach and Wong bought herself a new house also. Albo vs the other guy makes no difference.
?si=Kapcx4ClwuafncfYFFS mate, Covid was five years ago. Move on, there are bigger issues right now than the boring old lockdown sook. Also, why are we talking about Albo’s beach house not a despised ex cops $300 million dollar family fortune and tight relationship with Gina Mineheart?
covid was the biggest health disaster in human history. they created a cold in a lab and then covered it up. they then injected the population with experimental gene therapy that contains deadly pathogen (spike protein) as well as SV40 and contaminant DNA that integrates into your genome. trust me surf a lot. no one who took that poison is moving on. if elections mattered they wouldnt let us do it. there is no left or right. its an illusion. romans worked out the bread and circus 2000 yrs ago. all these crooks need to be shot or hung or they will do it again.
It's baffles me how people still don't see it rothmanisatool. It's right there in plain sight.
nah. doesnt baffle me at all. its just the asch conformity experiment and the milgram experiments. 75-80% of people will conform and will deliver deadly shocks to people if told to by authority figures. its all disturbingly cliche unfortunately. its like that line in the matrix.......most people just wanna eat the steak and pretend its all honky dory. the reality is very dark and people are generally cowards.
Good on you for not conforming while ticking every box from the Non-Conformists Handbook: Covid Version.
Keep using your delusion.
we are not enemies. delusion/ignorance would be bliss.
No we're not. Many of my friends are also dills.
please feel free to point out anything in my above statement(s) that are not correct.
Out of curiosity, what studies/papers would you cite from?
i know most people dont want to accept this but here is the 2 yr US senate investigation into covid which confirms ecohealth alliance (CIA cutout) funding to wuhan.
https://oversight.house.gov/release/final-report-covid-select-concludes-...
i would quote mostly professor angus dalgliesh, Emeritus Professor Robert Clancy and kevin mckernan regarding DNA contamination, spike toxicity and use of SV40 promoters. we also now know that pfizer lied about its use of SV40 in its vaccine as well as switching the contents between trial versions. you can watch them both here.
?si=v8XC1oH_eEQdpx_wwe now also know that ironically only astra zeneca disclosed their vaccine was gene therapy, while the other 3 manufacturers left that section blank on the TGA application.
finally these poisons still have EUA status which excludes them from liability.
they think we are cattle. some of us are not.
There’s a lot of garbage that comes out of the pharmaceutical industry, not just vaccines.
It should be up to the individual if they want to avoid them .
Don’t just blame governments of both persuasions
Although different situation if you’re employer makes it mandatory.
You're a brave independent thinker.
I think you’re brave if you take everything the GP tells you too .
I just had a tooth extracted, and the dentist told me to take painkillers and I just used some natural remedies, not that Panadol is that bad.
When the pharmaceutical industry comes up with a new drug/ medication, they don’t really have much idea of long term side effects and they probably don’t care that much.
Having said that you do need to use pharmaceuticals when the tooth is being extracted or drilled out, or you would die of pain,so you have to give credit where credit is due.
Dunno mate, it’s a slippery slope - one minute you’re taking painkillers, next minute you’ve got autism and pericarditis.
I wouldn’t trust ‘em.
It helps not to generalise,
Some pharmaceuticals definitely have their place, as in surgery, and intensive pain management , where I’d definitely take them,
But EG the GP prescribed me some blood pressure medication, which I didn’t take and he checked it 3 months later and it had dropped 30 points , using different herbs, still not sure which herbs did what, because I use so many.
Also I think I’ve taken pharmaceutical
Anti inflammatories twice in my life, and found the pain was worse when the effects of the medication wore off,
But I have no long term joint issues at all .
My fitness level could be higher higher but that’s a different issue.
Rigorous scientific processes from start to finish :)
Actually they do do rigorous scientific research on pharmaceuticals and natural medicine,
Thats how they know about all the different
“Possible and likely adverse side effects “ of a drug , which they do actually tell you about, which you have to read about and wear them if you want.
Eg if I try a new drug and if makes my toes go all tingly or gives me a migraine
I stop taking it without scientific evidence.
Sexxy...please mate, stop.
How many replies until it's just 1 letter per line on phone browser?
Great question.
Are we there yet?
あたま
New phone needed
Honky dory?
Pfft, white person’s fish.
Ha ha...
ha, yep, that's today'.
I have a suspicion the Black Plague or the Justinian plague (6th century; possibly killed half of Europe's population) might have been a little worse.......
we shall see. everything is a limited hangout.
Are you a professor of immunology?
Hi. There were many professors giving alternative views about the vaxx, including the ex-scientific head of Pfizer in the UK (Michael Yeadon); the inventor of mRNA technology (Robert Malone); as well as Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche. These people have dedicated their lives to producing vaccines. Both Malone and particularly Vanden Bossche made it clear, Biology 101, that:
1. Mass vaccination will not succeed in an already infected population. In the USA, for example, the CDC estimated around 40% of the USA populated was already infected prior to the vaxx rollout program there.
2. Viruses already in the natural incubator of the human body will create resistance to the vaxx and mutations when touched by vaccines.
3. I recall that is obviously why the virus starting as Alpha allegedly mutated into Beta in both South Africa and Brazil, the two places Astra Zeneca were conducting their vaccine trials. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7901269/
4. Then the widespread vaccination of infected populations obviously caused Delta to arise, which was highly resistant to the vaxx created from Alpha.
5. By the time a virus broke out in Australia, it was Omicron. While Australians were properly vaccinated when the population was free from the virus, the Alpha vaxx was not effective against Omicron.
6. I hope you know that every year the Flu Vaccine is altered in anticipation of the expected changes in the new annual flu virus. The same principle applied to the Covid vaxx. The vaccines created from Alpha were outdated.
I'm not a LNP.
9/11 was 24 years ago however 6 months ago Al Qaeda invaded Syria again from Jordan & NATO Turkey and, at the approval of the USA, formed a government in Syria. Do you remember which entity purportedly did 9/11 and was the cause of The War On Terror? Do you think the joint USA-China Wuhan created virus (funded by they same entities that owned the vaxx tech and controlled the pandemic response) matter can't happen again?
Well said. It's OK to call the clown before Trump - Genocide Joe. I didn't notice anything in this "debate" about universal human rights, today the leaders of the Free World (with the exception of Pope Francis) are happy to sponsor and provide cover for a Genocide. The way the world is going, fast, people might want consider that it's the Palestinians today, who's next. The Greens are the only party who recognise this, as well as environment and renters rights. I've voted Labor all my life, not anymore. What they are is Liberal Lite.
To be clear, I was responding to BarbB
the greens will sell out any chance they get. if voting mattered, they wouldnt let us do it. the entire system is broken/corrrupted. we need to create new parallel structures that are better. i agree on the human rights but when you have a trillion dollar war machine it must be fed bodies. they have the guns, we have the numbers as soon as people grow a pair, turn off the TV and take a good look around, things may change. until then, they will inject us like cattle, feed us garbage and beta test meme coins on us.
What a sad life you lead.
i have a great life. i just dont trust criminal corporations and govts. hard to fathom for many i guess.
ps. you sound vaccinated.
Yeah, all your words have gone over my head.
time for a booster then.
Time for your irony supplement.
lmfao almost spit my coffee out, stu! haha
Good morning rothmanisatool, while I understand with your scepticism about anyone (I assume) of the political class, I believe that as responsible citizens we are obliged to weigh up the choices and make an informed vote. While I know the Greens cannot achieve government at this point, they can provide something towards a healthy check of power. You seem certain the Greens will sell out, I believe in making our choice, then testing it. This might be a tired statement, but some of the young mates may not be familiar with it - [I]t has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time; but there is the broad feeling in our country that the people should rule, and that public opinion expressed by all constitutional means, should shape, guide, and control the actions of Ministers who are their servants and not their masters. - Churchill, a smart, but flawed man.
For me, Pope Francis did little significant, which is why we won't find his mob mobilized into any significant action and many of his mob supporting Israel. The most important bottom line is an Occupying Power has no ordinary right of self-defense towards an Occupied Territory. Anyone with access to legal advisors not making this fact clear is not helping. For example, if the Aussie govt made it clear there is no ordinary right of self-defense in this situation, there would be no conflict about this issue. The ICJ has ruled this basic fact of International Law, back in 2004 in the Wall Case and again last year at this link: https://www.icj-cij.org/node/204170
My main problem with the TEALs is they strongly backed the failed Misinformation Bill. The origin of Covid and the fake vaxx appeared to be obvious misinformation. Scientifically, the vaxx was always destined to fail because (ignoring its experimental & unproven nature) mass vaccination cannot be achieved when much of the population (in USA, Europe, etc) was already infected because this causes the virus to mutate in the bio lab of infected recipients. That is why there was Alpa, Beta, Delta, Omicron, etc. The vaxx actually probably prolonged the pandemic.. As for the continually recited "right of self defence", this also appears to be misinformation. The TEALs strongly backed a Misinformation Bill that would hinder true information and would support government misinformation. If my memory is correct, I recall the TEAL skier possibly quoting the WEF and Klaus Schwab in a speech.
This Guardian article, in my opinion, is an example of the Anglican Church leader engaged in misinformation. While the Cardinal is condemning the deliberate murder of two Christian women outside of a Gaza Church, it is still mentioned Israel has an ordinary right to self-defence, which the ICJ has ruled does not exist. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/18/women-mother-daughter-gaza...
Here is an email I sent to the Greens, who originally said they would support the Misinformation Bill but then they changed their mind. I hope I helped.
Dear Senator Shoebridge
My impression is The Greens are supporting the Misinformation Bill. You personally would be acutely aware the current Australian government appears to have mislead the Australian public on the matter of Israel & Gaza, most specifically, about the fact that under International Law, as ruled in the ICJ 2004 Wall Case (here https://press.un.org/en/2004/icj616.doc.htm and https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/131/1677.pdf) as well as reiterated merely recently by Australia's ICJ Judge Charlesworth (here https://www.icj-cij.org/node/204170) that Israel as an Occupying Power, has either no or very limited claims to self-defence in relation to Gaza (an Occupied Territory). Related to this is Australia not fulfilling its obligations under the Genocide Convention.
In addition, a problem The Greens have is, as a party, they have not acknowledged they were incorrect about the purported danger of the Covid virus; as well as incorrect about the purported efficacy of the purported vaccines. I could provide a lot of information about this however this short video by Victoria's Chief Health Officer is sufficient to demonstrate how the experimental vaccines did not work [linked removed] . Further, I could provide lots of information about how the excess deaths in both Australia and worldwide indicated the both the lockdowns & vaccines caused many of the excess deaths. This link [i removed it from Swell Net] contains a summary.
You would also be acutely aware it was the Covid lockdowns, which The Greens supported, which directly resulted in the approval of the Narrabri Coal Seam Gas Project, which was successfully stopped for many years; here https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/12/santos-narrabri-g... and https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/sep/30/nsw-planning-comm... , as part of the Liberal governments Covid gas lead recovery policy here https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/sep/17/scott-morrisons-gas-...
The Misinformation Bill gives the strong impression of having the explicit purpose of stopping criticism of the government, which is undemocratic. It even prohibits criticism of the banking system (which at least overseas caused the 2008 global financial crisis).
As demonstrated with both Israel/Gaza and the Narrabri Coal Seam Gas Project, the Greens are defeating their own purpose by supporting the Misinformation Bill.
Also, if the government was serious about protecting children, it would ban free internet pornography.
Regards
Yep, big ideological battles being fought.
We no longer have a wage economy but an asset economy, it’s about what you own not what you earn, and the divide between ‘haves’ and ‘have nots’ is getting greater.
People have identified this and are desperately trying to pressure politicians to make changes.
Both the major parties are economically right of centre although Labor might move towards the centre if the electorate supports them. With Millenials and Gen Z outnumbering Boomers for the first time, it could be possible.
Not a vanilla election in my books.
100% agree Andy
not an election. both leaders were selected. they will do as they are told.
Make sure you vote for someone else then.
Sophie Scamps (failed) supporting censorship (failed Disinformation Bill) of the opinions of common people on social media; by doing so supported more propaganda power to the Mainstream Media; & gave the impression of unsure flip flopping about a genocide even though her husband has a law degree & she is a doctor. I guess she tried with Gaza but gave the impression of avoiding the nuts & bolts of International Law. What is this BS video? They are not "independents". They give the impression of globalists following a pre-existing international script. Don't vote TEAL. Sophie's hubbie is a home loans whatever (Avalon Mortgage Solutions). Sophie's parliament voting record is here: https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Chamber_documents/HoR/Divi...
Dunno, she looks ok to me.
https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/representatives/mackellar/sophie_sc...
I'll send by intended post to Sophie.
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Why not just email her instead of sending by post?
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Nailed it BarbB. There is a lot more to this than a witty one line response. Hopefully the millennials dig deep and get a grasp of what is really going on with the WEF and WHO etc. Only that will regain a society that provides "a roof over their heads, health and happiness and plenty of time for friends and family and the occasional ripping". You're right "foreign globalist puppets" are the real problem and the Brett Sutton video you shared confirms that. Fix that and everything local will all fall into place. Ignore it and things will continue to get worse.
I'd urge people to consider https://peoplefirstparty.au/policies
Good one. I voted yesterday. Gerard Rennick and his Party #1 for the Senate.
Fella appears to be anti-environment and anti-political transparency.
Pretty much all of his voting patterns show that he is a long, long way to the political right.
People First?
Gerard Rennick?
Pro oil, pro coal, anti anti-corruption, anti environment.
More pro nuclear or thorium, anti corruption yes (without that it's all meaningless), anti environment no but you have to be prepared to look for the truth and we're constantly lied to - that's why people keep going on about the COVID scam. When you understand that then you can never look at these people in politics the same way again.
When I said that Gerard Rennick is anti anti-corruption, that wasn't a typo.
So maybe you're right when you say, in light of that, it's all meaningless.
Maybe follow him AndyM. Here is his latest post for example:
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/165TYp6TE6/
Definitely anti-corruption.
You can’t be serious.
You sound vaccinated.
I thought we were talking about Gerard Rennick actively voting against a federal anti-corruption commission?
Get the criminals to investigate themselves. Then use it to say I told you so, now stop complaining. I don't have a clear solution, even with an independent investigation, but I can see the problem. That is the first step.
If it's an independent commission, how are the criminals investigating themselves?
In any case, the Bill passed the Both houses despite the LNP and Gerard Rennick voting against it.
Smells fishy eh?
Not putting up any red flags for you?
You can say something is independent and wrap it up in official branding and quote laws etc but still it many aspects of it can be influenced, hence my comment re independent investigations. Royal commissions are supposedly independent but there are clues in the title and the outcomes are often woefully inadequate. Often it becomes more useful for the people committing crimes to claim they are innocent. No I don't have a better solution but I recognize the problem.
Yeah true.
Best to do nothing and try nothing and be a complete sucker and a dummy, it's the only way.
Especially if you're trying to justify the dodgy party and candidate you're recommending.
No what I'm saying is giving the authority to the wrong people to investigate something can be worse than doing nothing at all. It can be used to cover up crimes and convince an electorate that the concerns they had were unjustified and there is nothing to worry about.
The WEF are doing exactly the same now:
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/16SDrydj6p/
Nothing will happen to Klaus but public opinion will be manipulated.
Sounds like they're always going to be the wrong people eh?
you got an pile of 'open a good red' bingo cards that have one square with 'you sound vaccinated' written on it, @AndyM? I do.. cellar's gonna take a slow pounding I reckon.
ummm.. that was cue, @Squatty.. I have a pen and a corkscrew ready..
Gosh and I thought he was so switched on with these kinds of things.
agree. as i said above. everything is a limited hangout.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." - William J. Casey, CIA Director (1981)
Are you sure Gerard Rennick is anti-environment? I have subscribed the Gerard's (and Andrew Wilkie's) Youtube channel for years and for me he is well balanced.
?si=rRGP3EgyfQkf4JFU ?si=1D1qN73C_9fHtlqjHaha, so according to that second video, if you let rivers run you're wasting water.
And you say he's pro environment.
Are you serious or trolling for shits and gigs?
Let's get this straight - he voted consistently against increasing protection of Australia's fresh water.
He also voted consistently for making more water from Murray-Darling Basin available to use.
Just another genius that wants to destroy any remaining ecosystems to (continue to) irrigate semi-arid areas.
That second video is absurd. A natural ecosystem is unproductive so it's proof of Labor and The Greens dastardly ways.
Gotta be a gee up.
The elephant in the room is global weather extremes (eg. heatwaves, storms, floods, bushfires etc) and interest$ on business or multiple properties 'investment' being a max tax deduction / evasion. Neither major 'party' wants to cook their golden goose voters & heavy fossil dependant industry supporters (millionares & media mates).
https://www.ato.gov.au/individuals-and-families/income-deductions-offset...
PAYE & super schemes are the bread for the Oz financial system cream, churned into butter with salt.
Build one home for one family was normal in 1950s - 70's.
There are an estimated 10.9 million dwellings in Australia as of June 2022 (ABS)
https://www.abs.gov.au/media-centre/media-releases/109-million-dwellings...
The Census usual resident population of Australia in 2021 was 25,422,797, living in 10,874,835 dwellings with an average household size of 2.52. https://profile.id.com.au/australia/population
https://www.revenue.nsw.gov.au/taxes-duties-levies-royalties/foreign-buy...
Free energy from the sun is perfect for OZ. "solar technology in Australia, given we have the highest average solar irradiation per square meter of any continent globally, no matter the season. "
https://research.csiro.au/solar/not-too-hot-not-too-cold-whats-just-righ...
Go figure...
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-27/foreign-buyers-china-hk-india-wan...
Gary Stevenson is a good listen.
Let’s just tax wealth more and tax work less
Both parties are not planning to do this. Vote independent this two party system in Australia is a big part of the problem. Is too easy for the lobby groups to buy power
WTF is happening at the moment. When did all this nonsense become normalised? When did people that failed basic schooling suddenly think that they're smart and everyone else is dumb?
I love Australia but fuck me, we've imported so much nonsense for no real reason. Are people's lives that bad at the moment?
Australia: Huge reserves of critical minerals yet lacking in critical thinking.
But surely these people, the ones that are SURE of their beliefs found out in the course of their primary/secondary schooling where they fit on the bell curve. Peers will even let you know if you're a delusional dumbarse, teachers will surely let you know.
Where/when did they forget those experiences?
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool." - Richard P. Feynman
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There is no such thing as "critical minerals", apart from "critical for weapons to slaughter people". Most of these "critical minerals" are in over-supply, selling at historic prices. Many rare earth deposits, for example, remain uneconomic to develop.
The whole problem of "critical minerals" is for the USA weapons industry and for the USA that both lacks resources & productive efficiency.
And people wonder why I've got a chip on my shoulder about American cultural imperialism.
Anyway, as far as I'm concerned, this flat earth bullshit is part of the deal with the devil regarding hyper-individualism and libertarianism (the American fantasy), in conjunction with the god-shaped hole.
Part of our (largely American) culture now dictates that not only is it ok to delude yourself, it's uncool to call someone out on it.
Totally agree re: American cultural exports, but these people don't "think it's ok to delude yourself", they honestly think they're onto the truth.
Apart from the lives lost and the general harm wrought by a bumbling government response, the largest casualty of Covid was social capital. I couldn't believe how many of my seemingly rational thinking acquaintances ran straight to simple narratives of good and evil based on the most outrageously nonsensical premises, rather than face the messy truth of 8 billion people all mucking through as best they could in the face of a complex landscape and competing interests.
Put any one of these armchair experts in charge of something actually complex and consequential and they would make our government appointees look like glowing beacons of reason and competence. In fact, we don't have to imagine what that would look like, one of them was in the White House at the time....
@juegasiempre, the moment was when the algorithm started kicking in
Interesting.... DM podcasts own/manage Aintthatswell.
DM Podcasts are being paid by Labor to help with their media and podcast strategy....
ATS do interviews in seats with no Labor chance promoting independents......
I wonder who's interests are being promoted/protected here....Could it just be a very clever Labor strategy to limit Coalition seats....I wonder if ATS would look at a Labor seat with an independent's chance? Such as the seat of Gilmore perhaps? Media types may want to ask that question to ATS.
Well here we are peeps with a 2 party system that is failing the majority in favour of a wealthy minority! The so called Millenials are coping the brunt of this & hopefully will vote in a majority of independents that may change the way this system operates to form a more egalitarian society that actually works for the majority & not for themselves & a priviliged few! IT'S TIME FOR CHANGE ! (Whitlam's govt '72 )!
The changing landscape of the two-party system.
"Over five decades, here’s how voters have shifted away from the major parties"
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-24/election-data-rise-independents-m...
I love these guys.
Despite what everyone thinks about politics/politicians/policies etc., these guys are hugely popular with young lads. They are getting a message across to them that it's not about gender, women or the Andrew Tate's of the world. It's about the environment, taxing the massive resources companies and putting money into basic needs.
greens have sided with Labor in the past , are they still on the same train ??