The source of Covid-19 are we any closer to knowing the truth?

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indo-dreaming started the topic in Saturday, 20 Mar 2021 at 7:00pm

A year ago the media and (so called) experts were saying it didn't escape from a lab, but the narrative in a lot of media does seem to be changing and many have ruled out the wet market theory.

This guy (in vids) is an advisor to the WHO and on face value seems fairly credible https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Metzl

He seems to believe that Covid did escape from a lab, which off course China would never admit even if it did, and any investigation they have allowed has basically been as you expect very controlled.

BTW. Just because it appears to have come together naturally doesn't mean it didn't escape from a lab, it could have been a virus they collected in wild and were studying.

Really what are the chances that of all areas of China it has sprung up in the area where there just happens to be the Institute of Virology laboratory that studies say 2 type viruses.

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zenagain Monday, 22 Mar 2021 at 5:58pm

Shouldn't have to point it out to you Snuff but the ME and America is not the whole world.

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sypkan Monday, 22 Mar 2021 at 7:02pm

what zen said, bubble boy...

"Ha ha biggest world event since WW2.Guess 911 and the Middle East being torn apart don't equate in your history books Syppie.Still going too.With Covid the Middle east has been fucked over twice in a 20 yr period but hey so long as your on the winning side."

well 911 barely rates in my book, so take that as you will, you china loving american exceptionalist patriot man...

"Syppie.Still going too.With Covid the Middle east has been fucked over twice in a 20 yr period but hey so long as your on the winning side.""

so yeh, fucked over twice, once by the american dogs, and now by the china dogs...

you agreeing with me or arguing? ...because you're a man full of contradictions... terribly desperate, distracting contradictions...

is indonesia, india, brazil, much of south america actually..., japan, the phillipines, thailand, south africa, africa, png, etc. etc. on your world map?

because they've all been fucked over

making it a significant WORLD event

seriously, you're all over the shop...

jfk, his brother, mlk, 911, wmd...

I'm still struggling to see the connection

where's ya mate facto and his thread police siren?

acab

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memo... Monday, 22 Mar 2021 at 7:14pm

"Shouldn't have to point it out to you Snuff but the ME and America is not the whole world."

"what zen said, bubble boy."

#YeahBut

#CueNo1FuckstickBigotBoy

#No!NotYou2ndStringSypkant

#Though...AsCookedAsBro

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Snuffy Smith Monday, 22 Mar 2021 at 8:28pm

Yep but still affected the world though or didn't it?.How many countries involved in a conflict for it to be classed as a world war anyone have a guess?The connection is truth and lack of it how can a peanut commentating on a surf site have any real clue what's going on from Covid to any major past world upset we all will never know the real truth but you can have your own opinion and that is all you have got no matter what side of the spectrum and that is what I find laughable here.

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sypkan Monday, 22 Mar 2021 at 9:54pm

"...The connection is truth and lack of it how can a peanut commentating on a surf site have any real clue what's going on from Covid to any major past world upset we all will never know the real truth but you can have your own opinion and that is all you have got no matter what side of the spectrum and that is what I find laughable here."

don't be so hard on yourself snuffed smurf, there's plenty of good information on the internet, even a shelltered peanut like yourself can get a great idea of world events, if you maintain an open mind and a yearning to know a little more

its sad that people such as yourself aren't willing to take in new information that challeges their worldview. really really sad... ya need to read between the lines a little more bud!

its often what isn't said that's the most revealing, no matter the source...

the way some of you crew write off certain sources is disheartening to say the least. some of you are flat out brainwashed about what's good or not, when in reality, they all have something to contribute to the picture...

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Snuffy Smith Monday, 22 Mar 2021 at 9:48pm

Haha go ask Joe Rogan

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sypkan Monday, 22 Mar 2021 at 9:57pm

sigh

really? ...you are one of those?

double sigh

so predictable....

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indo-dreaming Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 8:04am

@ Optimist

" Indo, and Facto smith is always trying to twist things to be about race."

Ha ha nailed it.....

At least he has some sort of opinion with this profile though.....

How gullible does he think people are, im not going to put a space after every sentence, that will throw them off...

Had to laugh when he couldn't help but throw "Numpties" in the mix, old insults die young i guess.

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Snuffy Smith Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 8:13am

sad that people such as yourself aren't willing to take in new information that challeges their worldview. really really sad... ya need to read between the lines. More of a Alex Jones man myself Syppie cup

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Snuffy Smith Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 8:17am

well 911 barely rates in my book, so take that as you will, you china loving american exceptionalist patriot man.

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Optimist Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 8:34am

Indo,...if you asked Facto, Memo, Snuffy Smith, Michael Bourne, Shatners Basoon and a least 3 or 4 others to meet you in the car park to sought it out like men and everyone turned up there would be 2 of you.

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indo-dreaming Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 8:41am

ha ha...Talking turkey & Pupkin are two others.

To be fair though Michael Bourne is a different guy that also posted under Cryptoknight, Herc and one other that ive forgotten.

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Optimist Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 8:54am

Indo...The two of them should get married..(you can do that now) then the ten of them could live happily ever after.

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sypkan Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 10:27am

so snuffed smurf...

are you suggesting 911 was a false flag incident so the US could go blow up muslims?

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sypkan Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 10:30am

he isn't facto, the psychological gymnastics are different

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memo... Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 11:27am

#JoeBroganAlexInfoWankJonesPaleoPeteEvans?

#IndoDreamingSypkhanOptimist

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Blowin Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 11:44am

Jacobinmag......lololol Comrade Queef.

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sypkan Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 12:29pm

funny thing is facto, I'd bet $500 to a charity of your choice, that you have watched more joe rogan and alex jones than I ever have...

so wrong again...

again...

how do you do it?

the consistency across the board (you and your mates) is impressive to say the least

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memo... Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 12:13pm

#AndyNgoTuckerCarlson?

#SypkahnBlowin

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sypkan Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 12:32pm

I'd bet $500 you've spent more time there as well...

all of these people... 'are living rent free in your head'

I borrowed that one, but it's very apt

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memo... Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 1:00pm

#AreYouSayingYouDon'tEvenReadYourPrevious&NumerousPosted'GoTos'??

#Why'Use'ThemIncessantlyThen?

#YouAreTheProblemYou'reWhiningAbout

#AndYouLongForA'Debate'???

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memo... Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 1:09pm

#CanYouGetAnyMoreShallowIfNotDownrightEmptySypkhan?

#ShitInstaMemesAndLongPissyHashtagsAreEvenTooGoodForYou&YourGang

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memo... Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 1:07pm

#ButI'llKeepEmComing

#ForTheYucks

#It'sAllYouseDeserveAy

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AndyM Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 1:12pm

Blowin you might not want to base your whole ideology around it but Jacobin has some worthwhile reads.

If you throw it in the mix of what you consume, I reckon it's worthwhile.

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2020/12/noam-chomsky-class-struggle-constitut...

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Blowin Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 1:15pm

Andy- I just take the piss out of Memo. I’ll read anything and recommend others do the same. The larger the perspective the more expansive the thought.

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memo... Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 1:19pm

#Blowin'sAbsorbedSoMuchLeithVanOnselen&MacroBusinessHeThinksHe'sVictorian

#BringBackBlowipedia

#It'sTime!

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sypkan Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 1:27pm

sigh

against my better judgement, i will engage in one more post of your juvenile, throw away, fleeting moment, virtue signaller, hashtag bullshit...

if i have ever posted tucker carlson, I'll bet another $500 its not more than 3 times

I dont do twitter, I thinks its the self indulgent gossip bubble tripe of the media class

but I do look at a wide range of sources, and they often link to twitter. there was a period in time where andy ngo's videos were one of few sources presenting anything that remotely resembled the 'truth'

now I know that'll trigger you and release a barrage of badness, but that's a fact (if such a thing exists anymore...)

I don't 'follow' him, and haven't looked at anything, and I mean ANTHING, he's done for months

go ya hardest... little big man disciple of all thats good and 'true'...

acab

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memo... Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 2:04pm

"I’ll read anything and recommend others do the same. The larger the perspective the more expansive the thought."

#Don'tForgetToCRAAPBeforePostingCrapThen

#UnlessYou'reADisingenuousGronkWithIssuesOfCourse

#ThenYouGetTheResponsesYouDeserve

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indo-dreaming Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 2:31pm

I don't know why people would have any issue with Joe Rogan, he is only an interviewer and does interviews in such a way that it's almost natural conversation, not loaded questions or scripted question & answer type thing.

I dont see his interviews being about him, but more about being about who he has on, which is as broad spectrum of people you could ever find and total in depth.

To also associate him in anyway as right wing which i get the feeling Facto does is crazy, he identifies as left wing but he is pretty sane for left wing, he does call out BS when he see's it, so he is a close to the centre as can be really.

Personally I'm neither a fan or hater of him, but will watch interviews if the person or topic interest me, although that said sometimes the people/interviews that you think are going to be good are boring and some person you know nothing about and just happen to start watching are really interesting people.

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Blowin Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 3:26pm

Rogan isn’t right wing in any way. The fake left have shifted their goalposts of what constitutes left/right but that has no bearing on reality. We are talking about people who called Trump a literal Nazi here.

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memo... Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 4:29pm

#Etch-a-Sketchy

#Shake&StartUpTheBollocksAgainNoWuckas

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Snuffy Smith Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 4:32pm

How wacked does Rogan get that's what I find the most interesting.

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Snuffy Smith Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 4:38pm

.The two of them should get married..(you can do that now) then the ten of them could live happily ever after.

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memo... Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 4:45pm

#WhoDoesn'tLoveTheBrogan?

#It'sAllAboutTheFeelz

#RightWing?LeftWing?WingDingALing

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sypkan Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 5:26pm

exactly indod and blowin

the man is far from 'right wing', it's nothing short of bloody ridiculous that some call him 'right wing' and 'dangerous'

if the fake left weren't so busy labelling everyone 'right wing' from their self delusional transposed bubbled up goal posts of the new 'left'... then maybe people would listen to them a bit more... just sayin...

but labelling is what they do... it seems that's all they have left in the trunk

"#RightWing?LeftWing?WingDingALing"

its clowns like you that created this scenario, ...but you just a carry right on with the projecting, blaming, damage control and distancing...

'winning'

again...

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Michael Bourne Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 7:00pm

FFS, optimist? This moronic gronk? scomo's brethren? Squwarking about manning up while hiding, nameless, and chickenshit sinking your boots into Brittany Higgins, and then when you got repeatedly
called out as a piece of spineless, chickenshit, low life gutter slime, groveled and gut crawled, and like your hallelujah brethren scomo sniveled your way out of it. Grow some balls, man up and use your real name, if that's the road you want to go down.

https://www.swellnet.com/comment/717973

optimus? well, 'soughta'...

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memo... Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 7:59pm

#SomeWeirdShitBackThereMB...FromSomeSeriouslyWeirdSerialOffenders

#Re:RapeWhatWouldJesusDoOptimist?

#AndIndo'sThinkingAboutErections&PerformanceIssues?!

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Michael Bourne Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 8:45pm

Exactly facto.

Weird shit. Protection rackets.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/mar/23/coalition-staffer...

Yeh. Bottom line is this quote.

'Senator Keneally said “how do you train someone not to masturbate on an MP’s desk? How do you train someone not to rape?”'

I 'seen' 'em try the good 'ol standby, the good 'ol denial, look away 'assumption' techy...

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Blowin Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 8:45pm

How cool is it that Facto and Michael are legally allowed to get married these days . Any other era and their love would have to be hidden instead of the beautifully unabashed display we are all lucky enough to witness.

Cute.

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Michael Bourne Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 8:49pm

Speaking of protected no name chickenshits! Hiding in terror 24/7!!!! Again!!! What's your name... again...

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memo... Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 10:08pm

#UhOhBlowin'sOnThePiss&PokingRoundHisCloset...Again

#Tired&Emotional

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truebluebasher Wednesday, 24 Mar 2021 at 3:05am

(MB) ...needs a 2nd run as there were heaps of clangers!
Simon Birmingham : They need more Training!
Kristina Keneally: How do you train someone not to masturbate on yer desk!

PM : Hey you sicko! Will ya quit humpin her desk ...why can't ya just masturbate over yer Staff!
"You can date rape all the staff ya like, but don't you dare soil the furniture you sick bastards!"

Tanya Plibersek : Think yer meant to care more about the Rape Victim & feel less pain for the desk!

PM : "My Wife & Children are outraged as they're still praying for a No. 2 to land on their desks!"

Nat MP Michelle Landry launched a scathing attack on her Toy Boy!
"The young fellow concerned, you know he was a really good wanker (yep) worker!
"He loved the place" & I feel bad for him about this...but you know it's unacceptable behaviour!"
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2021/03/23/kristina-keneally-michelle-la...

Kristina Keneally : She said What?
How about feeling bad for the cleaners who had to cum...
How about feeling bad for female MP on whose desk was disrespected.

PM : "Farkin' give that little bitch a security breach!" (Mr PM...You can't say shit like that about chix!)
PM : "About that daft blonde on security! She couldn't even spot our pet mongrel serial rapist!
Stupid cow thinks he's just a one off junior date raper! Can assure you our lad has plenty of notches!"
PM : "He had some Form...but this was the final straw!" ...(Now! You've really pissed him off.)
We can't show you his face coz it's Proper Classified xxx ACT sensitive fragile VHS porn..
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-23/staffer-brittany-higgins-rape-par...

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Michael Bourne Wednesday, 24 Mar 2021 at 8:13am

Yeh Trubes, there's always more 'corrections'... again... and again...

Not to mention the stinkin, low life groveling hallelujah brethren (mmmmmaaaaayyyytee) blatant lies... 'deep' ones aaaayyyeee mmmaaaayyy...

https://au.yahoo.com/news/p-ms-deep-regret-over-false-harassment-claim-2...

'it wuz juzzzz are self foolfillun prooorrfecfy aaaayyyee'. Fucking liars.

Meanwhile, the lil' swillnut no name hero!!!!

'after chain sawing through downed trees on a slippery driveway in teeming rain , trying to get power restored to my home a couple of hours before dark during a one in hundred year flood , getting a boot off the fuse box and all the while trying to calm the elderly people inside who are freaking the fck out after they’ve just thought they were going to be killed by falling trees, and who’re now worried sick about anything and everything.'

https://www.swellnet.com/comment/722970#comment-722970

All while even more bravely 24/7 swillnut posting his brains out on every topic under the rain too,!!!

'I'll save ya's all aaaayyyeee... agin', from vem faaarkin' chinks too... I juzzz gooort sum reary impootant swillnut reeeding an' shite... and a few hundred swillnutteries and pomes an' shite ta get oooorf aaayeee... agin'... be wiv in a ...'

'Well... soughta... aaaayyeee!!!'

What a fucking hilarious, ludicrous no name, blow by no name blow, world champ, bullshit artist fucking shit show!!! Surfeeein' 2021 aaaaayyeee!!!

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I gotta go train people... again...

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Blowin Wednesday, 24 Mar 2021 at 8:36am

Clinically insane.

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stunet Wednesday, 24 Mar 2021 at 8:43am

Disturbing and entertaining at once.

The puffed-chest admonition of people who don't use their real names is a fine touch.

Proof that we can all evolve to be better people, eh Uplift, Herc, Crypto?

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Blowin Wednesday, 24 Mar 2021 at 8:49am

Not to mention his secret male/male crush on Facto/Memo/Shatner’s Bassoon/ Talking Turkey/ etc who he PROTECTS despite Memo’s anonymity being so complete that he’s never even revealed which general industry he works in*.

*Admin/bureaucracy for unions perhaps education industry I imagine.

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Supafreak Wednesday, 24 Mar 2021 at 10:15am

Old scot no friends can’t take a trick lately , a please explain needed from advisors who would have given him the fake news about sexual harassment in media. The bloke is under a lot of pressure and the cracks are getting bigger but the really sad thing is the opposition is pretty useless . Going to be hard to vote for either next election , independent candidates will be coming out of the woodwork.

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Michael Bourne Wednesday, 24 Mar 2021 at 10:53am

No idea Stupe's come out to save hiz boy... (I juzz bin answerin' all them emails fiiiirrsssttt mmmmaaayyytee!!! And lil' chickenshit, no name blow blow up in the wee hours 'rescyouin' everywun agin' (between swillnuttin 24/7... aaaayyyeee sssttttuuuppee!!!' 'Agin'.

FFS, what a fuckin' hoax!!! Gronks united!!! There's a quid in it!!!

'I owe ya me miserable backstory fuckin' life mmmmaaaayyyytteee... coz ya saved me blow blow.... mmmaaaayyyteee... on vat secret, backstory Sumatran slab 'rad' shralpin', twinnie floggin' 'raddin' mission we dun, when we didn't even know each uvver aaayyyee... but... aaayyee... Soze I'll protect ya mmmmaaayyyte... that aint... weren't... aint... (who fuckin knows) no faaarkin' mmmaaayttee... Ooohhhh nnoooooo more fffaaarkkkin emails!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Agin'...'

'Come on blowie maaaayytte come in frum rescuin' everyowun... I got are boot, but the lites are on aaaayyee... and get unda ya blanky now... mmmmaaaayyyteee' chirp chirp cheep cheep...'

'Faaaannnks stupe... I juzz gorta get orf wun (million) more swillnutty pooooossstss mmmmmmaaayyytee... cheeep cheeep chiiirp chiiirp... chink chink...'

What a fuckin' ludicrous fuckin' gronkfest!!!!!!!

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I gotta go train people...

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Blowin Wednesday, 24 Mar 2021 at 11:03am

Michael- you no love me long time Mister?