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factotum started the topic in Thursday, 27 Aug 2020 at 11:12am

Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank

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Jelly Flater Friday, 30 Aug 2024 at 12:31pm

- prosecuting pedos & protecting pedos
(and making up the rules as you go)

…pledge your allegiance ;)

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etarip Friday, 30 Aug 2024 at 12:31pm

McGregor said that Russia was going to win in a matter of days. How is that ‘right’?

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Jelly Flater Friday, 30 Aug 2024 at 12:34pm

- haha

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andy-mac Friday, 30 Aug 2024 at 12:37pm

Regardless of Ritter being a sex pest, it does not make what he is saying incorrect.
I've been watching a few of the Judge Napolitano clips and he seems to have a good range of guests, ex cia analysts, diplomats, etc .
They seem to be getting things more correct than what I see on msm, at least until weeks later when truth gets out and msm (some) play catch up.
Anyway the USA have been meddling for decades.
Indo coup which was US backed in 65 led to a huge amount of killing, article I posted looks like they are still trying to meddle again.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_mass_killings_of_1965%E2%80%9366

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Jelly Flater Friday, 30 Aug 2024 at 12:38pm
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Jelly Flater Friday, 30 Aug 2024 at 12:40pm

- shhhh
….we are the goodies, coups are ‘right’ ;);)

- then, and now ;)

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Juliang Friday, 30 Aug 2024 at 12:46pm

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Yes it’s not up to us,
But I hope the Trump planned dismantling and privatisation of NOAA , the US weather forecaster
Doesn’t effect our Swell and Wind forecast charts too much
But always looking on the positives
If the swell and wind charts become less available or accurate, it could reduce crowd numbers in the surf .
I can see the madness in your method now !

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Pop Down Friday, 30 Aug 2024 at 1:09pm

Hey Juliang

I like the way U think , but I am not that sneaky , or able 2 worry about Longterm crowds , its a Young Mans Pleasure .

Swellnet are hiring atm , showing that a Private Group , can do a great job of Forecasting and Reporting surfing conditions .

Melbournian's love talking about weather , it's always in the NEWS !

That won't stop .

If the Dismantling and Privatisation of the NOAA , is Trumps biggest fault and we will probably stop , a nuclear war , that's a very Liveable conclusion .

I like the Australian BOM , I would buy shares in it , if Privatised !

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Juliang Friday, 30 Aug 2024 at 1:13pm

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Yes Swellnet a private group is doing well,
But I think they might make their predictions based on other accurate, available, sources

Although I could be wrong, they might have their own balloons , buoys and satellites

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Juliang Friday, 30 Aug 2024 at 1:26pm

@ popdown
Got it now, that explains your brick wall defence strategy,
You buy and sell shares on the Stockmarket , obviously some oil companies, and your old, so you’re not really that worried about it!

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Juliang Friday, 30 Aug 2024 at 1:29pm

@ popdown
That’s why anonymous keyboarders , are never going to compete with your financial bottom line!

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Pop Down Friday, 30 Aug 2024 at 1:40pm

If the NOAA were privatised , they would still have the Technology , Juliang .

They then compete with other groups and sell their information , as normalish .

Don't worry , your surfing data will only improve :) , hoping it gets U waves .

Virtual Surfing , gosh I hope that's fun :) !

Juliang , U have had quite a few guesses , at what type of person , I am .

Not ONE right , yet , but keep trying :) !

I had a Career buying and selling stocks in Australia , mainly 4 clients .

Only Insurance Alcohol , Casinos and Airlines were Avoided , I think .

I haven't owned a Resource stock ( a small copper play ) or Traded , personally , for 12 months .

Sitting and forgetting that stuff .

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Juliang Friday, 30 Aug 2024 at 1:36pm

Ah so trusting of
That’s great to see

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Juliang Friday, 30 Aug 2024 at 1:46pm

@ popdown
I’ll have to concede
I was beginning to think you were a Russian Bot , but now I can see your just an elderly stock market investor.

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Pop Down Friday, 30 Aug 2024 at 2:18pm

Gosh Juliang

Again U just keep getting your Guesses and Justs , mostly wrong .

I have more money invested in Art and Artefacts , than in shares .

That stuff , I don't Trade either .

If I have any Skin , in Any Game , I will Declare an Interest , of course .

Lucky U are not a Forecaster , but if Elderly is 65 , U got something right , in a few weeks :))).

Don't worry though , I will not use your inferior Age , against U .

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indo-dreaming Friday, 30 Aug 2024 at 2:27pm
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philosurphizingkerching wrote:

Scott Ritter
This guy really knows his shit and what happened to him.
The FBI raided his home.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1829248201674944539

Scott Ritter is a twice convicted pedophile who can’t get a paid gig with any credible news agencies. So he says outrageous shit and gets paid by RT. Don’t believe me? Google it: you can see his mugshots. And by posting links to his YouTube’s you’re literally monetizing a convicted pedophile. But, you do you.

Same with Doug McGregor and his take on things. Lost credibility, can’t get a gig. He’s been doom-posting Ukraine’s imminent collapse since before the invasion. Over and over. Always wrong. Again, paid correspondent for RT.

100% agree, they are just people that pander to a certain audience and view point.

Some of the things they say are not opinions they are actually factually incorrect.

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Jelly Flater Friday, 30 Aug 2024 at 2:49pm

^ hahaha

“ accuse the other side of that which you are guilty”

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Jelly Flater Friday, 30 Aug 2024 at 2:55pm

…facts ;)

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^ “Some of the things they say are not opinions they are actually factually incorrect.”
- hahahaha yep, selective gerbil hypocrisy ;)

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philosurphizing... Friday, 30 Aug 2024 at 3:00pm

Cheers for the feedback, etarip, I knew nothing of his background, what resonated with me was the whole subject of censorship, started posting into the comments section on youtube recently and I would say about half my comments have been deleted, similar thing on X joined late last year and a few days ago got blocked by someone who works in the American Glass Research building, he told me something about the building layout which could be quite significant in the bigger scheme of things. Maybe he regretted it for some reason.

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Jelly Flater Friday, 30 Aug 2024 at 3:10pm

…backgrounds to bigger pictures ;);)

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Jelly Flater Friday, 30 Aug 2024 at 3:14pm

- hmmmmm ;)

“…they are just people that pander to a certain audience and view point.”

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Juliang Friday, 30 Aug 2024 at 4:13pm

@ popdown Predicts “Trump in a landslide “

Exactly what the US needs right now . A president who loves a good insurrection attempt ,
Even if most of the MAGA participants are now doing time, except for Trump, who’s running for president .

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Jelly Flater Friday, 30 Aug 2024 at 4:52pm

;);)

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Juliang Friday, 30 Aug 2024 at 7:37pm

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Juliang Friday, 30 Aug 2024 at 7:45pm

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Juliang Friday, 30 Aug 2024 at 7:48pm

At least Trumps right when he calls his MAGA followers “Basement. Dwellers “

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Juliang Friday, 30 Aug 2024 at 7:50pm
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Jelly Flater Friday, 30 Aug 2024 at 8:03pm

$$$

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Juliang Saturday, 31 Aug 2024 at 2:37am
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Juliang Saturday, 31 Aug 2024 at 2:59am

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Trying to stop MAGA election fraud in Georgia !

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Juliang Saturday, 31 Aug 2024 at 3:31am

Republicans reacting against Trump’s pick up of Democrat rejects, Kennedy and Tulsi

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Pop Down Saturday, 31 Aug 2024 at 7:32am

Good morning Juliang

U had a busy night .

Did U watch the Interview with Harris Walz , dancing around , not live , 4 27 minutes ?

Democrats are all talking about it and the Reaction is very interesting .

Kamala was escorted by a friend ( WHY ? ) into a friendly Coffee Shop , 4 a chat with a very friendly Interviewer , questions ALL vetted !

She has been preparing 4 weeks .

First Q - what will U do on day 1 .

Answer - save the world .

Interviewer - ? , no , day 1 , ie 24 hours .

Kamala - save the world .

Kamala was in the Safest Environment and she Felt the Heat !!!

A Kangaroo in The Headlights under pressure and her Brain freezes in fright .

The Woman is a Marshmallow .

She has changed her View on Fracking things , no explanation needed , apparently .

My Values are Consistent lol , but views can change , if necessary and I need 2 hahaha .

She said Biden had the Right Disposition , 2B US President lol haha .

Asleep at the Wheel , with OTHERS charting the course .

The Democrats are having nightmares as I type .

Harris/Walz are Lightweights !

Trump will meet Harris 4 the FIRST time in the debates .

Trump will not be nervous , Harris will be shitting herself , on LIVE TV !

That's going 2B a good Muppet Scene !

Guessing the Democrats will call OFF the debates .

Kamala might give another interview , in November ffs !

Other World Leaders would love 2 negotiate , 1 on 1 with Kamala .

They will eat her 4 breakfast .

When under extreme pressure , a persons True Character emerges .

Kamala , unfortunately , crumbles under pressure .

In Stark contrast , Trump has been forged by Fire and is cool , under pressure !

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Juliang Saturday, 31 Aug 2024 at 8:27am

@popdown
Haha no I’m not up all night
YouTube helps me get back to sleep, sorry about that
The thing I like about Kamala Harris is , she knows what a battery is, and she knows what it’s used for .

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Pop Down Saturday, 31 Aug 2024 at 8:57am

U are cool Juliang :) !

Does Kamala need something that's battery dependent , 2 fall asleep 2 ?

How U do U know , that interesting stuff ???

As U have probably noticed , by early evening , I have mostly , even turned myself OFF and nod off easily , no Battery Energy Bunny , 2 Old .

Kamala sure looks like she needs some Charging .

Somehow , she already looks Older .

Some people Thrive in a Boiling pot , some don't .

Thatcher THRIVED under pressure .

Barak didn't , but his wife sure did .

Kamala just turned HER whole Campaign OFF , she Short Circuited it , when trying 2 keep the Energy going .

She just looked a weak woman , so disappointing , as may be President !

She Crashed and Burned , at the first little hurdle .

Deep State will B going into damage Control , so everything will appear , Normal .

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Juliang Saturday, 31 Aug 2024 at 8:52am

@ pop art
Sounds like you are very sensitive when it comes to discussing energy
Strikes a raw nerve, so you have to go on the attack,
Playing the woman, which your hero would never do . Hahahaha

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philosurphizing... Saturday, 31 Aug 2024 at 9:00am

Been following Sarah Wilkinson for a while on X.
12 cops knocked on her door.

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Pop Down Saturday, 31 Aug 2024 at 9:09am

Wrong again , Jul's lol haha .

Gosh , mate , read the NEWS !

Trump is Over 70 !

I have constantly said , Free Speech , is what I really Care about .

I could have easily used her Change of Views on The Wall , Immigration .

Sorry 2 say , Harris is a woman and she looked weak .

Don't believe ME , check 4 yourself .

U are a bit touchy this morning !

A bad nights sleep can do that Juliang .

My darling old Mother told me that :) !

I passed that Wives Tale , onto my 2 daughters , 2 .

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Juliang Saturday, 31 Aug 2024 at 9:08am

Beyoncé
Celine Dion
Issac Hayes family
Jack white
Sinead Occonor estate
Foo fighters
Johnny Marr
Abba
Village People
Neal Schindler
Neil Young The Rolling Stone’s
John Foggerty
Tom Petty estate
Phil Collin’s
Steven Tyler
Rhianna
R E M
Stevie Wonder
Adele
Aerosmith
A-Ho
The Animals
The Beatles
Bruce Springsteen
Creedance Clear Water Revival
Earth Win and Fire
Eddy Grant
Elton John
Everlast
Free
Guns n Roses
Leonard Cohen
Linkin Park
Linkin Park
Nickel Back
Nico Vega
The Ojays
Ozzy Osbourne
Panic at the disco
Pharrel Williams
Prince
Queen
Twisted Sister
Why don’t you ask some of these artists , why they don’t want anything to do with your hero Trump

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Westofthelake Saturday, 31 Aug 2024 at 9:10am

Land of the free, home of the crazed
(Ronni Salt, The Shot)
Back in 2014, US Presidential hopeful and alleged dog-meat eater, Robert F Kennedy Jr. found a dead bear cub by the side of the road in upstate New York. RFK, as he’s commonly known by those who presumably want to forget he’s a Kennedy, decided to take the expired bear home for his gourmet road-kill freezer collection for later consumption. Unfortunately over the course of the weekend, Kennedy forgot about the dead bear cub he’d stuffed in his car boot – something that’s surely happened to all of us at some stage – and decided to take the by-then decomposing corpse back to New York City’s Central Park instead.
RFK arrived at Central Park in the dead of the night, arranging the dead baby bear just near a path and underneath the front of a bicycle he’d also brought along as part of the joke. Exactly what that joke was is difficult to determine and best left to professionals with experience in unhinged, privileged males with “brain worms”, but the scenario gives you a deeply penetrating insight into the scrambled mind of a man who just last week, was polling at around 5% in the 2024 US election.
That some Americans, even any Americans, actually supported RFK and intended to vote for him as President isn’t surprising to anyone who’s followed US politics closely over the years. This is a country at war with itself and its people. A polarised, dysfunctional, deeply divided nation that holds the right to own a gun over the right of their own children to sit safely in their schools. It’s a nation that once elected Donald Trump, and – god help us – could possibly elect him again.
Comparing Trump with RFK, it says something about the derangement of the US political scene that a man who played hide-and-seek with a bear corpse and believes Covid was genetically engineered “to attack Caucasians and Black people”, was only the second most bat-shit crazy candidate in the race.
The most bat-shit part of course, is the American presidential election “system”, and we use the word “system” here advisedly because to an outside observer, how it still operates this way is beyond comprehension.
Broadly speaking, the federal presidential elections are conducted by an Electoral College. This isn’t a place, it’s a process – a convoluted, unworkable election process that, just like the imperial system, has been abandoned by every democratic nation in the world bar the USA. This process to elect the US President arrived via Article II, Section 1, Clauses 2 and 3 of the US Constitution and the 1804, 12th Amendment (and a few other pieces of band-aid legislation since then). The Electoral College was largely seen by the Constitutional drafters at the time as a compromise between electing the President by a vote of ordinary citizens, and electing the President via a vote in Congress. However, just like John Howard’s model of a potential Australian republic, the entire system has now developed into an unholy mess.
Unlike the Australian Electoral Commission – a statutory authority separate to government that oversees our federal elections – the USA has no uniform national electoral system, or an independent separate authority to run them. Instead, the federal elections are overseen and run by the individual states (and Washington D.C , which is like the USA’s version of the Australian Capital Territory, except Peter Dutton spends more time there).
Each of the 50 states, plus Washington DC, are allocated Electors (a member of the Electoral College) largely based on the size of their population. Officially, it’s proportionate to the state’s House of Representative members, plus 2 senators, but we’re already having trouble keeping up here, so let’s stick with population size. This is why California (pop. 39.1 million) has 55 Electors voting in the Electoral College to vote in the president, and little old Wyoming (pop. 600,000) has only 3.
In the weeks after this year’s presidential election, a total of 538 Electors of the Electoral College will travel to their state capital to cast their vote on behalf of their state’s citizens’ votes. Got it? But how do American voters know their state Electors have cast their votes according to the voting results of their own state? They don’t. It’s just taken for granted that they do. In the 2016 election Hillary Clinton polled the most amount of votes across the country, but actually lost the election, and yes, the runner-up taking out the Presidential prize has happened several times before.
In addition, over the years the US has seen Republican-dominated states impose restrictions designed to suppress Democrat votes through numerous ways. They’ve changed ID requirements to disenfranchise poor and Black voters, eliminated polling booths in predominantly Democrat leaning or Black dominated areas causing voters to queue for anything up to 8 hours, and gerrymandered districts to force an inequitable distribution of Republican voters, just to name a few.
And that’s not even taking into account the fact that in the US, unlike Australia, voting is not compulsory. Yes, in the land of individual rights and “Me Is Mightier Than We”, the US now has over 220 million people of voting age and only 161 million bothering to register to vote.
That’s why US politics is such a gloves off, open blood-bath. It’s why their party conventions are like something out of a Las Vegas drag queen’s nightmare. Americans need to be entertained and engaged to vote; they need to be dragged kicking and screaming into their own democratic process. While almost every state in the USA makes jury duty compulsory and a civic duty, they view voting for their national leader as just like bringing an umbrella – something optional and open to the vagaries of the weather.
It’s easy to see how the USA’s insane, aberrant election system is open to abuse by an insane, aberrant would-be dictator like Trump. He took full advantage of this in the 2020 election, refusing to concede, casting doubt on the mechanics of the Electoral College (easy to do) and easily convincing his cult-hypnotised supporters that none of the system was fair or just or even. Taking Trump’s delusions out of the equation, he probably has a point.
But after Kamala Harris’s swift rise to top the Democrat ticket, what we’re seeing now in the Presidential race in Trump is a man in the Fat Elvis stage of his campaign. Anybody watching the Democrat National Convention over the past week couldn’t help but notice the buoyant, Obama-like atmosphere in the air, as well as the fact there were far more Republicans at the Democrat convention than Republicans at the Republican convention.
That’s because Trump has hijacked the traditional Republican party, largely by offering power to those who crave it most – billionaires and politicians. Below him, Trump offers ordinary Americans citizens what they crave most; a belief that he alone will lead them out of their miserable lives and into something better. To the ones remaining, the hyped-up cookers with the painted faces, the red MAGA hats and the delusional grip on facts and reality, Trump offers them what they crave most – validation of themselves, not as mad outsiders, but as one of the team. It’s their longed for power and validation, simply by association.
What Harris offers in contrast is far more difficult to pin down. The fact she’s a highly educated, former prosecutor with years of career experience behind her and a formidable intellect, and Trump, well Trump does not, is the most obvious difference. But Harris’s campaign has a secret ingredient – normality.
Kamala Harris and her suburban dad, everyman running mate, Tim Walz, are two Americans who’ve worked in paid jobs, were raised in middle-class and working-class families and who, unlike Joe Biden, have had lives and careers outside of politics. Harris speaks like every mother, offering her children hope and joy and yes, stability. Trump speaks like fear and loathing are an inherent part of his outlook.
Trump represents chaos and division while Harris represents unification and normality. And in a political landscape where the nephew of a former president can campaign on the evils of vaccination and a 6 times bankrupt, maybe-billionaire can brag of overthrowing the election, and no American citizen is sure whether to vote or not and if they do, will their vote even count – unification and normality is sorely what a fractured, disUnited States of America needs.

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Juliang Saturday, 31 Aug 2024 at 9:11am

@ popular
No actually I had a good nights sleep,
Another flawed theory of yours

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Pop Down Saturday, 31 Aug 2024 at 9:24am

U are so funny Juliang , must be sleep deprived !

Many of the artists U list above are Dead , Brain Dead , Dead Shits , Wonderful Artists and I don't have ANY of their numbers !

I don't listen 2 or have the numbers of Hollywood Actors , either .

Seems like U take Political advice , from a very eclectic Group , of cool musicians .

I don't !

Why don't U watch the INTERVIEW ?

The hour is mainly political type adds , 27 minutes of a MAN and woman , looking "weak as piss" imho .

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As Roni said above Westy , Trump beyond bad , Deplorables bad , Kamala , very good !

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 31 Aug 2024 at 9:28am

Notice her body language how she always looks down instead of holding eye contact, she is like a little kid thats been busted lying.

BTW. Famous musicians and actors are often pretty left leaning it's just the whole scene, they are pretty detached from the views and life's of everyday people, and sadly in this day and age any that support Trump could risk losing work etc just for being open supporters of Trump.

Its no different to the voice debacle which was stacked with musician's and celebrities trying to push it, but their views weren't a reflection of the majority of the public..

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Jelly Flater Saturday, 31 Aug 2024 at 9:21am

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Jelly Flater Saturday, 31 Aug 2024 at 9:23am

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Jelly Flater Saturday, 31 Aug 2024 at 9:42am

- bwoddy wanguage eggspurts
… pubwic majowity detachment ;)

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Jelly Flater Saturday, 31 Aug 2024 at 10:13am

“…like a little kid thats been busted lying” ;)

^ a pathological liar supporting a pathological liar hahaha

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“accuse the other side of that which you are guilty“ ;);)

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Juliang Saturday, 31 Aug 2024 at 10:22am

@ populist
Well I think I’ll go with the musician’s opinion, instead of the twisted ostrich mentality of
MAGA
Why don’t you reply or insult to
@ westofthelake or someone else, so I don’t have to keep trying to convince a brick wall ?

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Pop Down Saturday, 31 Aug 2024 at 10:44am

Hey Jelly Flater

Was interested in hearing examples of Trumps Lies , so watched the clip .

Only got through 2.33 min of the 7 minute Clip , what a List of Lies .

Trump thinks he tells the Truth , so a Big Lie LOL .

Trump does love to Exaggerate himself , but Kamala would think and Say , the same thing ffs .

Then some important Lies , like how Big his Crowds were , How Strong the Economy was , or wasn't , His Biggest Tax Cuts only being the 8th Biggest , taking Credit 4 Obama's Vets bill , by adding some Sugar AND Not Building the WALL , that he promised .

FFS !

He made other REAL Promises , like Clean the Swamp , MAGA , Trying 2 build a Wall , getting NATO 2 pay its way , Take on China , Start no war , 2 .

He DID keep some of THOSE promises , so I CAN believe him , but discount some due 2 his proneness to exaggerate .

Can WE believe Kamala's Promises , now that's a good question ?

Hey Juliang , Please piss off , whenever U want .

I thought U hadn't finished trying 2 put me in the Right Hole , Pigeon like !!!