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I’m partial to sweet and sour pork when having Chinese but some friends went the Chicken feet? Weirdos

Not up to broaden your culinary horizons, YS ?

I bravely ate haggis when I was in Scotland last year blowy but there’s just not enough meat on those sinewy chicken feet to bother. Looked pretty chewy too.....

Your picture won’t load for me so it’s hard to pass judgement on that particular instance. Can’t imagine they’d be too amazing. Got to try things once though.

Reloaded that picture blowin so hopefully it will work this time. It was pretty gross to watch! Haha

Ughhhh.

Old mate doesn’t look too impressed.

Still.....I’d have to give it a go.

I think you'd struggle in Japan Yorkes:)

Wife cooks up the chicken feet all the time YS, it's scrumptious if they are properly cooked and marinated

Who likes Chinese?

https://www.healthline.com/health/womens-health/tight-vagina-asian-stere...

Cant believe the article failed to mention one important aspect, Asian women are more likely to be smaller and more petite than many other ethnicity's, meaning everything is in proportion it doesn't mean they all have tiny tight pussys or all Asian guys tiny cocks but on average these body parts would be smaller than many other ethnicity's.

One other possible contributing aspect is most Asian cultures use squat toilets all their life's, which only help to strengthen pelvic muscles, squats are one exercise recommend for women to build up these muscles.

I liked the way the author harped repeatedly about the shameful objectification of women and then used her Tinder profile pic in the author bio.

Also had a deep and satisfying belly laugh on the link about the mother who made ham sandwiches to demonstrate the difference between Taylor Swift’s vagina and her daughters.

Too easy to imagine the brief given to the author by the editor....” I want a titillating story about tight vaginas , laced with references to colonialism , racism and white supremacy....frame the lot as a shame job on judgemental society , whilst simultaneously introducing the guilt women never knew they should feel over the elasticity of their genitalia.”

What does 'cis' mean in that article?

Ok, so I looked it up. cisgender "denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender corresponds with their birth sex."

She had quotes such as -

"But on a baser level, a tight vagina is also seen as a highly appealing characteristic for cis women to possess simply because it’s more pleasurable for cis men to penetrate."

"Studies are increasingly showing that cis women experience pain (about 30 percent in the United States) when they have penetrative sex."

Both quotes had links to papers that didn't mention 'cis' once.

Is this meant to be assumed knowledge or should she have pointed it out?

So to clarify- does that mean people being born with a willy grow up identifying as dudes?

Conversely, does it mean people being born with a VJ grow up identifying as chicks?

What a strange concept.

Zen, yeah seems to be just that...
From wikipedia:
"Cisgender has its origin in the Latin-derived prefix cis-, meaning "on this side of", which is the opposite of trans-, meaning "across from" or "on the other side of"."

I haven’t seen too much evidence of mainstream media taking up the pronoun fight yet , despite many stated intentions and a few instructional pieces aimed at educating / shaming the general population.

Every news article still refers to him / her / she /he when running through any story not specifically gender issue related.

PS ....I can’t stop picturing the Christian mother packing a bread roll with ham so as to illustrate how neat her vagina remained. She obviously took some pride in showing the world how well rewarded her daughter had been by her abstinence.

I also imagine the tirelessly tolerant father going home from a big day at work , to have his patience tested anew , as his wife proudly shows him the deli and bakery goods built diorama of their young daughter’s most private parts which she had just instagrammed into the world.

Most likely wasted her time at uni studying gender studies and needed an excuse to make what she studied somehow relevant.

Clicking on her twitter at the bottom of the article kinda funny to see she is just another typical young wanna be cool girl, tiki's tok, selfies in little clothes etc https://twitter.com/nian_hu?lang=en

I bet she’s a journalism student submitting any crap requested by her editor just to retain a precarious foothold on the career ladder.

A little bit of human biology to clarify some of these issues. A small percentage of children, at birth do not have fully formed genitalia. In some cases it is not entirely clear what they will develop into. Parents in that situation are usually reluctant, when asked the traditional boy/girl question , to answer "We don't know yet." The result of this is that some children are actually assigned incorrectly, an error that is not easily fixed. So the slightly effeminate "boy" may in fact be a girl....and vice versa.
In other cases the genitalia never fully form. The traditional solution to this has been surgery to reconstruct them according to the call the parents made after the birth. Of course sometimes they get it wrong and the child, when they grow up a bit might have reconstructed male genitalia while feeling like they are a female. Then there is the issue of the fact that some "women" feel they should be men and some "men" feel they should be women. The underlying biology of this is, as far as I know not entirely clear, but none the less it is an established fact.
Some light on this however comes from a village in the Dominican Republic where no boys were born for many generations but half the "girls" turned into boys at puberty. This demonstrates the power of sex hormones. A further demonstration is that heavy drinkers often start to develop the secondary sexual characteristics of the opposite sex. In men the testes shrink and the breast tissue expands (yes check now!) while women may develop facial hair.
Given that this knowledge is widely available and usually taught in high school science there is really no justification for those who cling to a moronic concept of a totally binary sexuality.......except of course the support it provides for their own insecurities.

Just don’t objectify her .....she hates that stuff ?

Oops....I think I just used my CIS privilege to mentally colonise her ham sandwich.

https://twitter.com/nian_hu?lang=enhttps://twitter.com/nian_hu?lang=en

...sexy objector of objectification...

"Some light on this however comes from a village in the Dominican Republic where no boys were born for many generations but half the "girls" turned into boys at puberty."

Huh?
Got a link for that?

You were so close , BB.

You almost had me for a second. Interested in what you had to say without feeling the usual urge reject anything you say based purely on the sanctimonious and venomous delivery.

But there it was , right at the end.

The hate .

No one is hassling anyone wth gender issues. It’s a friendly discussion of a topic that most aren’t too overly informed about.

There’s not much point you constantly berating everyone for being such awful , awful people when you are probably the least decent sounding person on here. You mouth all the right platitudes but you can’t really hide the distaste and contempt you feel for anyone else.

BTW.....This is highlighted in this instance by the fact that you come on here to champion the insecurities of some , but then you display no hesitation for attacking others who may also suffer from an insecurity. You just used any potential insecurities people may suffer as a weapon against them.

I was interested in the village of confounding genders myself. Never heard about anything like that within humans before.

Anyone else find going through some chick's twitter for pics and posting them on a forum to ogle over a little seedy? Or is it just me?

blowfly (BB?), if you've got a link/source for that dominican republic story, could you post it? That's fascinating, and I'm a little suprised I hadn't heard that one before.

here freeride and Pops, plenty of others
https://www.sciencealert.com/remote-town-in-the-dominican-republic-some-...

Thanks. I'll have to look up the Michael Mosley docco, his stuff's usually pretty good.

That village story is pretty crazy, will have to check out that docco or read more about it.

I mean normarly even when a women is pregnant even before the penis forms and sex is known about a month before they can still tell the likelihood of it being a boy or girl due to how it is appearing to form inside the actual babies body..

"Given that this knowledge is widely available and usually taught in high school science there is really no justification for those who cling to a moronic concept of a totally binary sexuality.......except of course the support it provides for their own insecurities."

My question was, 'should I have known what cis meant as she didn't explain it and the linked articles made no reference to it either?'

I don't care that she used it I just couldn't work out what the fuck she was talking about.

I know that sexuality isn't 'totally binary'

Interesting in that link is that the child started to want to play with different toys as they shifted towards male gender.

Certainly puts a slant on the nature / nurture debate which sometimes suggests treating young children and their toy / activity options as though they’re gender neutral when they most obviously aren’t .

Seems boys might want to play with guns and it’s not just an imposed societal instruction as sometimes suggested.

Pops....that twitter link wasn’t posted to ogle , it was put forward as context to the author’s opinions as displayed in the linked article.

Anyway.....nothing wrong with guys looking at girls and vice versa....that’s as natural as gender diversity.

Thanks BB but the article doesn't back up your assertion- a village in the Dominican Republic where no boys were born for many generations but half the "girls" turned into boys at puberty- at all, in fact it refutes it.

".....the remarkable case of the Guevedoces is a condition that affects just over 1 percent of the boys born in Salinas"

So about 99% of boys are born with normal sex organs.

Sounds like a dietary deficiency which causes enzymes responsible for sexual development to misfire.

I'll assume that your literary and comprehension abilities are sufficient to distill the article and you made an honest mistake by mis-remembering the factual content of the article.

I don't think its 'ogling' to read an article and think...

well, ...who the fuck wrote that litany of cliches and stereotypes?

...then check out their 'profile' and go...

ha typical

...and swiftly move on confident this person is full of contradictions whilst experiencing not even a flutter of woody

yeah, sypkan/indo, no problem with that. I was more getting at the post above that read
"Just don’t objectify her .....she hates that stuff ?" followed by a picture copied that seemed to be aimed at objectifying her; unless I mis-gauged that?
I'm running on fumes at the moment - few days with bugger all sleep - so entirely possible I'm reading sh*t that's not there too.

freeride I have seen it documented in many places so I just assumed that was the usual story. I will look into it.

Perhaps read the initial link ,Pops. She’s rallying about the negative and harmful objectification of women.

Then her twitter feed shows her working that thing.

There’s an entire internet of seedy stuff which could be posted on here and virtually never is. Bit premature to be releasing the hounds on the twisted perversion of the Swellnet forums .

Yeh looks like I over-stated the case but the principle remains that sex hormones play a huge role in gender and sexuality.

"so entirely possible I'm reading sh*t that's not there too."

No Pops, you were absolutely on the money.

Yeah, fair enough blowin, little hypocritical perhaps (her, not you).
Copying the photo without consent still doesn't feel right for me, but it'd seem I'm in the minority there. And don't get me wrong, I'm not calling for the hounds to be released, just airing my thoughts.

On the seeming hypocrisy, she looks like she's my age or a little younger, and I know a number of chicks that age who seem to struggle a bit/are a bit conflicted between principles they think are right and what mainstream culture says they should be. So they say one thing and do another, and don't seem comfortable with either. I think insecurity has a lot to do with it; feeling like you need to conform to the mainstream ideal. And sometimes it seems to be a control thing; "I'm gonna be objectified anyway, so I'm gonna make sure it's on my terms".
I reckon young blokes get the same thing, but it expresses itself in different ways.
Of course, trying to psychoanalyse someone you've never met is never gonna be accurate. Just speculating here.

I've got no idea if that makes sense. Sleep deprivation... don't try it.

BB, yeah for mine, even though you didn't accurately regurgitate the story, the point you were trying to make still stands.
And the waters get muddied further when you account for people who have both male- and female-type biology.

So that's probably why the cis term has come into usage.

Agree. On that story I suspect, and this goes back about 20 years, that the issue was initially discovered in a relatively small extended family group and that was where the 50% came from. The percentage suggests a classic sex linked condition similar to colour blindness.......but that's just a guess.

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As an aside and further to the nice neat ham sanga thing.

I just had a shaved pastrami with honey-mayo on a white roll. Meat was spilling out everywhere.

Draw any parallels you like but it was fucking delicious.

And i still would have settled for the ham.

"On the seeming hypocrisy, she looks like she's my age or a little younger, and I know a number of chicks that age who seem to struggle a bit/are a bit conflicted between principles they think are right and what mainstream culture says they should be. So they say one thing and do another, and don't seem comfortable with either. I think insecurity has a lot to do with it; feeling like you need to conform to the mainstream ideal."

totally pops

totally tormented, poor things....

which is why some of us try to loosen things up a bit

insecurities...

pffffff

"........which is why some of us try to loosen things up a bit"

Yeh right you post exploitative images of immature confused young women to help them. The capacity of people to totally delude themselves about their own behaviour is a common human characteristic, but more extreme in some than others.

Oh c'mon.

I think she's doing a pretty good self-exploitation impression herself.

Pops....I think you’re right on the issue of young people being conflicted, but i think you’re mistaken in that it’s societal pressure which makes girls put photos of themselves flaunting on the internet.

Myself and my lady had this very conversation this morning. We went for a walk up the beach and into town , remarking on how many crew were around and the palpable holiday vibe you can feel at times like this.

As we came up the rocks at the end of the beach there was a couple of young girls laying in their bikinis right next to the path. My missus was talking about how good it felt at that age to be filled with hormones and the excitement of sexual possibility when you and your holiday friends separated yourselves from the families . She spoke of walking for hours hoping to be noticed by boys and the frisson of joy that being a recently budded flower was one of the great feelings in life.

She said a quote that it was “ like buying a new sports car and wondering how fast you could drive it “ when describing the sensation of realising that you had unintentionally developed a power over other people with your developing body and sexuality.

So I think if anything, young crew - girls in particular - are conflicted by that traditional attraction towards testing the capabilities of their new found sexuality and the fact that the now boundless connectivity and exposure of the internet means their flowering is made so much more public.

It’s normal and healthy for a young girl to work that thing in direct gaze of a few boys at the beach and another thing altogether to work it on the internet where control of exposure extends to greater threats than just the unsolicited stare of an old man laying nearby.

I’m just glad I didn’t have the extra burden of the internet to contend with as I was growing up. Real life has enough pitfalls as it is !

"I think she's doing a pretty good self-exploitation impression herself."

Maybe but why share it? The only explanation that occurs to me is the obvious one, which is a sad commentary on the person doing the sharing.

Blindboy....where’d this “ exploitive images “ garbage come from ?

She’s a young girl proudly flaunting what she was born with. You give this person no agency or power over their own decisions whatsoever. Monumentally condescending. If checked her twitter feed you’d realise that she wore that get up to a music festival, even spiced it up with a bit of studded leather on her thighs.

I swear you think that everyone in the world is a victim , you are a hero in shining armour and we are all mindless beasts.

“ Immature , confused young woman “......who the fuck do you think you are to judge her with such patronisation ?

Zen ....you know how to paint a picture...