COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster
QR codes gone tomorrow and 1 more week of masks left for NSW, except for hospitals/nursing homes etc.
https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/nsw-records-9995-new-covid...
burleigh wrote:Hey Stok, it would appear another conspiracy theory was right.
What happened at Canberra? Hopefully we will find out.
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaBpdP4By9T/?utm_medium=copy_link
pretty funny... vicidiot posted a tweet from the 'cookers' and their 'wild tin foil hat 5G like' conspiracy delusions about the cops using secret sonic devices to control protestors...
all in a desperate attempt to deplatform a whole movement of course... to tar all the 'cookers' as so delusional and paranoid they think the cops are using super sonic secret weapons to control them...
well it's true, the cops had LRAD's
bahahahahahahaha
wrong again vicvocal!! ...you desperate little man....
how do you do it?
why anyone would listen to such an angryman self destructing self evident fool is beyond me... but some do... some even encouraged him...
and look what that got us... an even more delayed reckoning on corona reality...
seriously, the dude is a danger
burleigh wrote:Hey Stok, it would appear another conspiracy theory was right.
What happened at Canberra? Hopefully we will find out.
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaBpdP4By9T/?utm_medium=copy_link
haha, I know some who was there and they said they had no mobile signal
burleigh wrote:Hey Stok, it would appear another conspiracy theory was right.
What happened at Canberra? Hopefully we will find out.
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaBpdP4By9T/?utm_medium=copy_link
Oh Burleigh, you small minded simpleton. Firstly, I'm just going to ignore the fact you keep up to date with Malcolm Roberts - that climate change denying fucker.
Taking a question on notice just means, instead of making assumptions and providing the wrong response, a written response will be provided after consulting with the right people.
In your fairytale world of grifters and bullshit artists - I know you see this as 'weakness' or a reason to 'question everything', but it's really not. It's actually a sign of getting the right information.
You see, people in positions of authority have a LOT to think about and consider. A lot of things ride on what they say and saying the wrong thing is extremely costly. Fuckwit grifters and bottom of the barrel pollies don't have this issue, they ask stupid questions, say stupid things and lie, lie, lie - and no one cares.
I've said this before, and I'll say it again. There's a medical saying which goes:
'When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.'
Pretty sure if you heard hooves you'd think unicorns.
sypkan wrote:burleigh wrote:Hey Stok, it would appear another conspiracy theory was right.
What happened at Canberra? Hopefully we will find out.
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaBpdP4By9T/?utm_medium=copy_link
pretty funny... vicidiot posted a tweet from the 'cookers' and their 'wild tin foil hat 5G like' conspiracy delusions about the cops using secret sonic devices to control protestors...
all in a desperate attempt to deplatform a whole movement of course... to tar all the 'cookers' as so delusional and paranoid they think the cops are using super sonic secret weapons to control them...
well it's true, the cops had LRAD's
bahahahahahahaha
wrong again vicvocal!! ...you desperate little man....
how do you do it?
why anyone would listen to such an angry self destructing self evident fool is beyond me... but some do... some even encouraged him...
He will be exploding reading all this, wait till he gets back, blowin really better go check on him lol
Stok wrote:burleigh wrote:Hey Stok, it would appear another conspiracy theory was right.
What happened at Canberra? Hopefully we will find out.
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaBpdP4By9T/?utm_medium=copy_link
Oh Burleigh, you small minded simpleton. Firstly, I'm just going to ignore the fact you keep up to date with Malcolm Roberts - that climate change denying fucker.
Taking a question on notice just means, instead of making assumptions and providing the wrong response, a written response will be provided after consulting with the right people.
In your fairytale world of grifters and bullshit artists - I know you see this as 'weakness' or a reason to 'question everything', but it's really not. It's actually a sign of getting the right information.
You see, people in positions of authority have a LOT to think about and consider. A lot of things ride on what they say and saying the wrong thing is extremely costly. Fuckwit grifters and bottom of the barrel pollies don't have this issue, they ask stupid questions, say stupid things and lie, lie, lie - and no one cares.
I've said this before, and I'll say it again. There's a medical saying which goes:
'When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.'
Pretty sure if you heard hooves you'd think unicorns.
No you sook, If they were not there, he would have just said "no" the fact he stumbled, mumbled and deferred means they are guilty.
You know this, or maybe you're not a smart as you keep telling us.
How about Dr Nick Coatsworth hey Stok. You're pretty quiet on that one too.
Stok wrote:burleigh wrote:Hey Stok, it would appear another conspiracy theory was right.
What happened at Canberra? Hopefully we will find out.
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaBpdP4By9T/?utm_medium=copy_link
Oh Burleigh, you small minded simpleton. Firstly, I'm just going to ignore the fact you keep up to date with Malcolm Roberts - that climate change denying fucker.
Taking a question on notice just means, instead of making assumptions and providing the wrong response, a written response will be provided after consulting with the right people.
In your fairytale world of grifters and bullshit artists - I know you see this as 'weakness' or a reason to 'question everything', but it's really not. It's actually a sign of getting the right information.
You see, people in positions of authority have a LOT to think about and consider. A lot of things ride on what they say and saying the wrong thing is extremely costly. Fuckwit grifters and bottom of the barrel pollies don't have this issue, they ask stupid questions, say stupid things and lie, lie, lie - and no one cares.
I've said this before, and I'll say it again. There's a medical saying which goes:
'When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.'
Pretty sure if you heard hooves you'd think unicorns.
can you wait till the copper gets the advice hahaha as if he didn't know
burleigh wrote:Stok wrote:burleigh wrote:Hey Stok, it would appear another conspiracy theory was right.
What happened at Canberra? Hopefully we will find out.
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaBpdP4By9T/?utm_medium=copy_link
Oh Burleigh, you small minded simpleton. Firstly, I'm just going to ignore the fact you keep up to date with Malcolm Roberts - that climate change denying fucker.
Taking a question on notice just means, instead of making assumptions and providing the wrong response, a written response will be provided after consulting with the right people.
In your fairytale world of grifters and bullshit artists - I know you see this as 'weakness' or a reason to 'question everything', but it's really not. It's actually a sign of getting the right information.
You see, people in positions of authority have a LOT to think about and consider. A lot of things ride on what they say and saying the wrong thing is extremely costly. Fuckwit grifters and bottom of the barrel pollies don't have this issue, they ask stupid questions, say stupid things and lie, lie, lie - and no one cares.
I've said this before, and I'll say it again. There's a medical saying which goes:
'When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.'
Pretty sure if you heard hooves you'd think unicorns.
No you sook, If they were not there, he would have just said "no" the fact he stumbled, mumbled and deferred means they are guilty.
You know this, or maybe you're not a smart as you keep telling us.
How about Dr Nick Coatsworth hey Stok. You're pretty quiet on that one too.
he's stocks mate
burleigh wrote:thermalben wrote:What are you suggesting, Burleigh?
No-one should have got vaccinated, because the whole thing has been fabricated?
No fit healthy person should have been forced to be vaccinated. No FEAR campaigns should have been allowed. No butchered numbers of deaths and hospitalisations should have EVER have been allowed.
Premiers should have not been allowed to LIE or get away with the LIES and continue to LIE.
Doctors should never have been SILENCED (QLD CHO is a prime example, you can tell when he's lying, he looks very uncomfortable. He also sneaks in some truths
Australian internal borders should never have closed, kids should never be jabbed or wear masks.
Nurses/teachers should never have lost their jobs.
Wellness camps should never have been built. and hospitals built instead.
Unvaccinated should now have zero restrictions upon them. This is still a punishment for not conforming
Anyone of power that intentionally lied should be put infront of a judge and punished accordingly. (it will be 100s of them)
Yep, that pretty much sums up the calibre of this thread - people with no clue, experience, training or qualifications, saying they know everything that should have happened.
A classic case of a expert in infectious disease management with a masters degree from the university of Facebook, Youtube and Telegram.
You do realise Burleigh, that even in the coming say 5 years, further reviews and investigations into covid reveal that it was a lot less of an existential threat than first envisaged, no one's going to come pat you or your conspiracy mates on the back. Just because you fundamentally disagree with vaccinations, doesn't change anything. Just because you follow a bunch of weird instagram personalities who feed constant misinformation about covid and health, doesn't mean anything either.
Unless I've got you all wrong, you're an armchair expert who's clearly uncomfortable with the collective efforts to mitigate covid, so you've been trying your little heart out to find alternative narratives which supports your lazy, selfish approach to this.
burleigh wrote:No you sook, If they were not there, he would have just said "no" the fact he stumbled, mumbled and deferred means they are guilty.
You know this, or maybe you're not a smart as you keep telling us.
How about Dr Nick Coatsworth hey Stok. You're pretty quiet on that one too.
Bahahaha
Burleigh's rule of law:
Remove 'innocent until proven guilty'.
If under questioning, you stumble, mumble or defer you're guilty.
Sounds a bit totalitarian/dicator-ish if you ask me?
p.s. please enlighten me on Dr Nick Coatsworth
burleigh, is without a doubt, the stupidest person here. staggering how stupid he is.
Another day, more restrictions easing and quarantine reducing.
Yet, come in this thread and it's whinge central.
There is no NWO, no removal of freedoms, no elitist satanic takeover.
Just restrictions put in place during a novel pandemic, which are now being wound back.
Shut the Gate Viclocal was right along about the grifters behind the Canberra Protests
https://www.theage.com.au/national/convoy-to-canberra-protest-has-its-or...
Yep it's all over now stok, may as well close this thread.
Stok wrote:burleigh wrote:thermalben wrote:What are you suggesting, Burleigh?
No-one should have got vaccinated, because the whole thing has been fabricated?
No fit healthy person should have been forced to be vaccinated. No FEAR campaigns should have been allowed. No butchered numbers of deaths and hospitalisations should have EVER have been allowed.
Premiers should have not been allowed to LIE or get away with the LIES and continue to LIE.
Doctors should never have been SILENCED (QLD CHO is a prime example, you can tell when he's lying, he looks very uncomfortable. He also sneaks in some truths
Australian internal borders should never have closed, kids should never be jabbed or wear masks.
Nurses/teachers should never have lost their jobs.
Wellness camps should never have been built. and hospitals built instead.
Unvaccinated should now have zero restrictions upon them. This is still a punishment for not conforming
Anyone of power that intentionally lied should be put infront of a judge and punished accordingly. (it will be 100s of them)
Yep, that pretty much sums up the calibre of this thread - people with no clue, experience, training or qualifications, saying they know everything that should have happened.
A classic case of a expert in infectious disease management with a masters degree from the university of Facebook, Youtube and Telegram.
You do realise Burleigh, that even in the coming say 5 years, further reviews and investigations into covid reveal that it was a lot less of an existential threat than first envisaged, no one's going to come pat you or your conspiracy mates on the back. Just because you fundamentally disagree with vaccinations, doesn't change anything. Just because you follow a bunch of weird instagram personalities who feed constant misinformation about covid and health, doesn't mean anything either.
Unless I've got you all wrong, you're an armchair expert who's clearly uncomfortable with the collective efforts to mitigate covid, so you've been trying your little heart out to find alternative narratives which supports your lazy, selfish approach to this.
Ahh i love it.
Missinformation........ until it's not. Thats the common theme surrounding Covid.
Here is a snippet from Dr Nick Coatsworth “No, it’s not. It’s clearly not,” he told Sky News when asked if Omicron was more dangerous than the flu.
Dr Coatsworth also said he believed booster shots were only needed for vulnerable people or those with chronic illness.
“Young, fit, healthy adults and kids, their risk was so low anyway that if you take it from 0.007 to 0.001 per cent – I’m using those numbers to demonstrate the effect, I’d have to get the actual numbers for you,” he said.
“So, for the booster perspective, from the disease perspective, this is an illness that will very rarely cause harm to young, fit, healthy adults and kids.”
More missinformation coming true hey Stok? The only difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth is a couple of months with Covid,
Burleigh, let's imagine you're heading up the Advisory Committee for the next pandemic.
And, let's imagine this time it's not Covid-19, but a new variant of Ebola, which has somehow managed to enter the country.
What's your advice?
Stok wrote:Another day, more restrictions easing and quarantine reducing.
Yet, come in this thread and it's whinge central.
There is no NWO, no removal of freedoms, no elitist satanic takeover.
Just restrictions put in place during a novel pandemic, which are now being wound back.
all those that lost jobs/careers/business/house mightn't agree you selfish Mexican
Another day and more mandates about to come into effect. As of 22nd Feb, SLSNSW will require it's members to be vaccinated to enter surf clubs and to participate in patrols. In QLD a similar mandate commences in late March.
If I was heading up the Advisory Committee I'd start with investigating the G.O.F. labs.
Not saying "it" came from a lab but when you talk about the possibility of another pandemic,you've got to wonder wtf else they got inside them labs?
What’s surprising about the Feds having LRLD. They knew the cookers would be among the crowds and rightly so should be listening in in case some crazy plot against the building or the people inside or the cops were in danger.
It’s their job. Where’s the conspiracy in this
Exactly seeds, whats the issue with the feds listening in?
I’ll have a crack at it Ben.
I’d form four groups, mainly doctors in each group but with a few sub-specialist experts in various areas. I’d make sure that each person in each group had no affiliation with a drug company whatsoever and generally devoid of conflicts of interest where possible.
The groups would be tasked with each of:
1. Contagion control
2. Early home treatment
3. Hospital treatment
4. Vaccination program
GuySmiley wrote:Shut the Gate Viclocal was right along about the grifters behind the Canberra Protests
https://www.theage.com.au/national/convoy-to-canberra-protest-has-its-or...
Interesting
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ABC still trying to squeeze in the last bit of fear:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-17/mum-regrets-not-vaccinating-child...
Some snippets from the click bait:
As a youngster, he had a history of febrile convulsions — seizures brought on by a fever.
She was relieved when he felt better after being given some ibuprofen and having a sleep.
WHAT A FUCKING JOKE
tylerdurden wrote:I’ll have a crack at it Ben.
I’d form four groups, mainly doctors in each group but with a few sub-specialist experts in various areas. I’d make sure that each person in each group had no affiliation with a drug company whatsoever and generally devoid of conflicts of interest where possible.
The groups would be tasked with each of:
1. Contagion control
2. Early home treatment
3. Hospital treatment
4. Vaccination program
Seems reasonable, and probably what most governments did.
One key thing you're missing though is communications management.
If super ebola comes around, we're going to need to hit the ground running with a host of targeted, detailed yet easy to understand, credible yet not too 'glib/lefty' sounding, realistic yet not too scary information campaigns to inform the public of what's happening and what's in store.
Then you'll have to have systems ready to deal with the full on assault on truth which will naturally occur.
@burlsack
Good on you for listening to Skynews, which hosted Dr Nick (hi everybody!) talking down the risk of Omicron.
Omicron is a variant which is now only a few months old.
Early signs showed it may be less of a concern than delta, but was much more transmissible. Grifters and conspiracists started shooting their opinions off in all directions. They, and you, have been saying Omicron is 'nothing' since day dot. They weren't saying this out of reason, or science, they were saying it out of fear and denial.
Omicron did cause significant hospitalisations, deaths, staffing issues and crunched businesses.
Most people had an ok time with it, some people didn't.
We're now moving past the first wave.
Dr Nick's free to his opinion, and I respect his decision to discuss this now, rather than as Omicron was just appearing - unlike you and your grifter idols.
Stok said “ Seems reasonable, and probably what most governments did. “ ………when it came to early treatment besides India and a few others , early treatment wasn’t even contemplated. It was go home and see how sick you get . They are only in the last month starting to recommend early treatment, since Pfizer and Merck released their new wonder pills .
Stok wrote:@burlsack
Good on you for listening to Skynews, which hosted Dr Nick (hi everybody!) talking down the risk of Omicron.
Omicron is a variant which is now only a few months old.
Early signs showed it may be less of a concern than delta, but was much more transmissible. Grifters and conspiracists started shooting their opinions off in all directions. They, and you, have been saying Omicron is 'nothing' since day dot. They weren't saying this out of reason, or science, they were saying it out of fear and denial.
Omicron did cause significant hospitalisations, deaths, staffing issues and crunched businesses.
Most people had an ok time with it, some people didn't.
We're now moving past the first wave.Dr Nick's free to his opinion, and I respect his decision to discuss this now, rather than as Omicron was just appearing - unlike you and your grifter idols.
not really lack of stok...
the saffa chick that discovered omicron told us repeatedly that all indicators showed omicron to be very mild, not least the totally empty corona wards in south africa...
she told us again and again... it appears to be very mild, with most people getting nothing more than mild cold symptons...
even as the machine tried to drown her out, shut her down, and stop her from saying such things...
and it has proved to be true.... yet here you are...
doing gawd knows what
but it ain't very scientific... and its certainly not very academic...
but carry on
champ
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Stok, in the interest of time and everyone’s attention span I kept it brief.
Those 4 groups would advise the federal government and coordinate the country as a whole.
At the moment the mixed messaging, competing interests and conflicts of interest are rife.
Here is a list to name a few who have shaped our lives over the last 2 years:
TGA
ATAGI
NCCET
National CMO
Each state CMO
PM
Premiers of each state
CMO of each state
An impossible set of competing interests.
Hopefully we can learn something from the whole thing
tylerdurden wrote:Stok, in the interest of time and everyone’s attention span I kept it brief.
Those 4 groups would advise the federal government and coordinate the country as a whole.
At the moment the mixed messaging, competing interests and conflicts of interest are rife.
Here is a list to name a few who have shaped our lives over the last 2 years:
TGA
ATAGI
NCCET
National CMO
Each state CMO
PM
Premiers of each state
CMO of each stateAn impossible set of competing interests.
Hopefully we can learn something from the whole thing
these 4 groups that will advise the fed govt get to tell the states what to do? what about legislation that allows states to do their own thing? are you going to over rule them...faaaaark, it's now a dictatorship and all about govt control. Yes, that is what the nutter will think.
how much time will you spend vetting members about their conflicts of interests? whilst people are dieing.
remember, no one knows about this new ebola strain..there is no vaccines yet.
no group to coordinate ppe? where is ppe coming from for the hospital staff that are treating ebola? No national group to look after purchasing?
btw..there are already organised groups disputing the info coming from your group of 4..most of the group of 4 are just big pharma lackeys chasing money.
your plan sucks...and the ebolaidiots are already protesting...state leaders are doing their own thing for votes as some have an election coming soon...
etc etc
the problem with the next pandemic may very well be a boy who cried wolf scenario thanks to the politicians drunk on power who refuse to give back the liberties we enjoyed pre covid.
one thing i'd add that list and would argue is the most important but one i am not sure is possible is a very clear cut single source of truth on the definition, guidelines and timeline of when the authorities hand back to the people the powers and personal freedoms we give them for the good of the collective society.
so many wasted opportunities and a huge decline in public trust to our democratic institutions that I worry we will never get back. idiots the lot of them to play politics with such a thing.
PPE comes under contagion.
Got a better plan Roadkill I’m all ears.
You could easily argue the state based control over certain things has been the entire problem with the coordination of the response.
Centralised expert advisory groups independent of conflicts of interest are the way to go. Keep any one with a connection to big Pharma completely out of it. Government wouldn’t have to listen of course.
But you got a better plan, give it a go
tylerdurden wrote:PPE comes under contagion.
Got a better plan Roadkill I’m all ears.
You could easily argue the state based control over certain things has been the entire problem with the coordination of the response.
Centralised expert advisory groups independent of conflicts of interest are the way to go. Government wouldn’t have to listen of course.But you got a better plan, give it a go
I don't have a plan...and think the criticism leveled at authority is misplaced.
No one could have done a better job than what has occured. All countries and states did what they thought was best. (with the knowledge we have now a better job could have been done) You could argue, only now, with current experience.
It's so easy to be a keyboard expert after the fact.
That is why dickheads like the antivax crew here are clowns.
So much happened as it developed, this was all new for the world. Mistakes were made but when they happened there was no alternative.
bonza wrote:the problem with the next pandemic may very well be a boy who cried wolf scenario thanks to the politicians drunk on power who refuse to give back the liberties we enjoyed pre covid.
one thing i'd add that list and would argue is the most important but one i am not sure is possible is a very clear cut single source of truth on the definition, guidelines and timeline of when the authorities hand back to the people the powers and personal freedoms we give them for the good of the collective society.
so many wasted opportunities and a huge decline in public trust to our democratic institutions that I worry we will never get back. idiots the lot of them to play politics with such a thing.
yep, they blew it big time
but we'll blame trump... still.... even though he has long gone...
most of the misiformation that has dangerously undermined public trust came from official sources
and most of it was peddled to save faucci and co., china, the who, ppe, and a heap of other key players...
and 'international harmony'...
it has been a public relations disaster, right ftom the very beginning, as arse saving was prioritised over truth...
all due to vested interests...
pretty basic stuff really, ...the whole government, academic, scientific, medical machine mega complex failed in its most basic fundamental starting point... well, what used to be our most basic fundamental starting point...
eliminate vested interests
identify conflicts of interest
which is what tylerd is totally on to
its a disgrace, and the biggest disgrace is the peer pressure and flat out bullying / cancelling that stopped people talking up sooner
stopped the system doing what it is designed to do
we disabled the very system we put our faith in... the system tried and tested that has served the western world well for 2 centuries... was stifled and disabled to protect the powerful and corrupt...
trust will only be rebuilt with accountability
cannot see that happening any time soon
oh well, maybe the next one - the real one - will wake some crew up...
sypkan wrote:bonza wrote:the problem with the next pandemic may very well be a boy who cried wolf scenario thanks to the politicians drunk on power who refuse to give back the liberties we enjoyed pre covid.
one thing i'd add that list and would argue is the most important but one i am not sure is possible is a very clear cut single source of truth on the definition, guidelines and timeline of when the authorities hand back to the people the powers and personal freedoms we give them for the good of the collective society.
so many wasted opportunities and a huge decline in public trust to our democratic institutions that I worry we will never get back. idiots the lot of them to play politics with such a thing.
yep, they blew it big time
but we'll blame trump... still.... even though he has gone...
most of the misiformation that has dangerously undermined public trust came from official sources
and most of it was peddled to save faucci and co., china, the who, ppe, and a heap of other key players... and 'international harmony'...
it has been a public relations disaster, right ftom the start, as arse saving was prioritised over truth...
all due to vested interests...
pretty basic stuff, the whole government, academic, scientific, medical machine mega complex failed in its most basic fundamental starting point... well, what used to be our most basic fundamental starting...
eliminate vested interests
conflicts of interest
which is what tylerd is totally on to
This is why you are a fucking idiot sypkan. Everything happened in a fluid way...things chanded hourly, daily, weekly. No one had a real plan..it was decision making by the day.
But, hey...sit on your arse and type into your PC how it should have been done.
In the various leadership roles I’ve had I found that frequently vocal criticism was fired at my from many a punter. My response was always “no probs, you can lead a taskforce to solve that problem” and just like you Roadkill the response was universally “I don’t have a plan” with a grumble and a mumble and silence thereafter
But, it's just the flu?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-17/xi-urges-hong-kong-to-get-control...
tylerdurden wrote:In the various leadership roles I’ve had I found that frequently vocal criticism was fired at my from many a punter. My response was always “no probs, you can lead a taskforce to solve that problem” and just like you Roadkill the response was universally “I don’t have a plan” with a grumble and a mumble and silence thereafter
you miss the point...your pissey little leadership role is no comparison.
This is govt/world stuff.
I don't have a plan...no country showed a plan.
to say..I don’t have a plan” with a grumble and a mumble and silence thereafter" Just shows how small your view and understanding of the world is.
You are suggesting...you would have task forced the covid problem....hahahahahaha. what a fool.
"This is why you are a fucking idiot sypkan. Everything happened in a fluid way...things chanded hourly, daily, weekly. No one had a real plan..it was decision making by the day.
But, hey...sit on your arse and type into your PC how it should have been done.
no idiot
if so much energy wasn't being wasted, covering up for certain bodies and interests, we may have even had a reasonable plan at least
the reason half of it was so fluid - and misinformation so rife - was because even those on the inner circle were only getting a minor portion of what we actually knew... and even if they had suspisions and hunches about what to do, they were cancelled, censored, and shut down too... an absolutely stifling work environment...
the starting point was fundamentally flawed, plan or not..
idiot
@tylerdurdan
It's way, way easier to poke holes in someone else's plan or actions.
It's even easier to retrospectively consider what's happened instead of living through it real time.
Hence why this forum chat is embarrassing.
Mostly just people who have no leadership experience, no medical experience, no experience in critical decision making et.c etc. all claiming they know better.
sypkan wrote:"This is why you are a fucking idiot sypkan. Everything happened in a fluid way...things chanded hourly, daily, weekly. No one had a real plan..it was decision making by the day.
But, hey...sit on your arse and type into your PC how it should have been done.
no idiot
if so much energy wasn't being wasted covering up for certain bodies and interests we may have had a reasonable plan at least
the reason half of it was so fluid - and misinformation so rife - was because even those on the inner circle were only getting a minor portion of what we actually knew... and even if they had suspisions and hunches, they were cancelled, censored, and shut down too...
the starting place was fundamentally flawed, plan or not...
idiot
you really don't get it. It is out of your sphere of understanding.
over and out roadkill, you're a hostile antagonist with nothing to contribute
with a very flat circle for a sphere of understandung to boot...
How the CDC Abandoned Science
Mass youth hospitalizations, COVID-induced diabetes, and other myths from the brave new world of science as political propaganda
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/how-the-cdc-abandone...
sypkan wrote:over and out roadkill, you're a hostile antagonist with nothing to contribute
with a very flat circle for a sphere of understandung to boot...
I understand this post from you, sypkan.
It's an easy way for you to scurry away and not try to understand how stupid and know it all you sound. All your comments and ideas are made after covid happened...after we have learnt where we went wrong...after you have listened to other ill informed posters.
You are an, after the fact keyboard expert.
Australia, has actually done covid well, as a country we are in a good place. Mistakes have been made. But not many other countries have done better.
The angry covidiots will disagree...from the relative safety of their Australian armchairs.
Roadkill wrote:Australia, has actually done covid well, as a country we are in a good place. Mistakes have been made. But not many other countries have done better.
The angry covidiots will disagree...from the relative safety of their Australian armchairs.
Lol, you fucking old fossil.
The most locked down city in the world, the most coerced jab nation.
Citizens not allowed to cross internal borders.
Citizens locked out of establishments because they are not double whacked even when the evidence is clear being double whacked does nothing.
You are a fool.
This ones for you Sypiee and Burlesque "Smart people learn from everything and everyone, average people from their experiences, stupid people already have all the answers"
Socrates
Toady on the turps early today
I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..
There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia