COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster
burleigh wrote:You're an enabler of the government dictatorship of its people. You're doing their dirty work.
The cult has you. You're blind faith in their "health advise" is scary as fuck.Go take a long look in the mirror.
Burlsack, no wonder you've got things arse about. It's heath ADVICE, not advise. Is that what they give out at camp crazytown - health advise?
p.s. for all I know Kochie retired 10 years ago, that was about the last time I watched the morning show, or was it sunrise?
Supafreak wrote:@stok
Do you think that if open public debate , with experts that could shoot down Malone and McCullough concerns around mRNA vaccines, then wouldn’t that better serve the public ? By attempting to silence them just makes many people even more suspicious of government and big pharma . The challenge has been thrown at anyone wanting an open debate many times now but no one’s taking them on face to face which is what’s needed. Why not challenge them and prove what they are claiming is bullshit ( I personally believe a lot of it is BS but not all of it ) It just raises suspicion and there hasn’t been a lot of transparency from government or pig pharma .
I've seen plenty of snippets of rebuttals here and there on social media (the algorithm feeds them to me - I'm not searching them out). Funnily enough, the comments section of such rebuttals are typically awash with threats of violence, racist attacks and deep, dark conspiracy shit - with the commenters arguing about how this 'clown' (i.e. person making the rebuttal) is an actor paid by the state, or they're bringing on trying to kill your kids or whatever. You know, standard Burleigh craziness.
Now - most of these nutbags are known for fairly intense cyber bullying/attacks (couple of good examples here - paging Bluediamond & Soggydog?), and they're also quite capable of the odd real threat of violence too.
So - in a public debate - not only would the poor bloke/lady going up against Malone have to deal with a opposing crowd who will almost entirely reject whatever they say, they may also end up with threats of violence.
Oh, and there's also the fact that engaging with such craziness is hugely detrimental to one's own professional position.
And the bullshit asymmetry principal.
to name a few reasons....
"Haha, better that than having dictator Dans balls hitting you on the chin with every thrust of power."
Hey Burleigh, that's not a comment from a level- headed rational person is it.
Maybe it's time for a break, a long walk, or maybe talk to a mental health professional. Seriously burleigh, you're not well.
Stok wrote:Supafreak wrote:@stok
Do you think that if open public debate , with experts that could shoot down Malone and McCullough concerns around mRNA vaccines, then wouldn’t that better serve the public ? By attempting to silence them just makes many people even more suspicious of government and big pharma . The challenge has been thrown at anyone wanting an open debate many times now but no one’s taking them on face to face which is what’s needed. Why not challenge them and prove what they are claiming is bullshit ( I personally believe a lot of it is BS but not all of it ) It just raises suspicion and there hasn’t been a lot of transparency from government or pig pharma .I've seen plenty of snippets of rebuttals here and there on social media (the algorithm feeds them to me - I'm not searching them out). Funnily enough, the comments section of such rebuttals are typically awash with threats of violence, racist attacks and deep, dark conspiracy shit - with the commenters arguing about how this 'clown' (i.e. person making the rebuttal) is an actor paid by the state, or they're bringing on trying to kill your kids or whatever. You know, standard Burleigh craziness.
Now - most of these nutbags are known for fairly intense cyber bullying/attacks (couple of good examples here - paging Bluediamond & Soggydog?), and they're also quite capable of the odd real threat of violence too.
So - in a public debate - not only would the poor bloke/lady going up against Malone have to deal with a opposing crowd who will almost entirely reject whatever they say, they may also end up with threats of violence.
Oh, and there's also the fact that engaging with such craziness is hugely detrimental to one's own professional position.
And the bullshit asymmetry principal.
to name a few reasons....
Scientists have always debated their differences in the past , so what’s changed ? Why can’t ‘ the science ‘ be debated ?
Vic Local wrote:"Haha, better that than having dictator Dans balls hitting you on the chin with every thrust of power."
Hey Burleigh, that's not a comment from a level- headed rational person is it.
Maybe it's time for a break, a long walk, or maybe talk to a mental health professional. Seriously burleigh, you're not well.
I’m more than fine mate, never been fitter in my life as a nudge closer to 40.
Surfed twice today in an almighty sweep paddling past kids 20 years younger than me for hours.
You’ve been conditioned to do the governments dirty work. You’re in the cult champ.
Stok wrote:burleigh wrote:You're an enabler of the government dictatorship of its people. You're doing their dirty work.
The cult has you. You're blind faith in their "health advise" is scary as fuck.Go take a long look in the mirror.
Burlsack, no wonder you've got things arse about. It's heath ADVICE, not advise. Is that what they give out at camp crazytown - health advise?
p.s. for all I know Kochie retired 10 years ago, that was about the last time I watched the morning show, or was it sunrise?
That'd be 'health', not 'heath' Mr Academia
"Scientists have always debated their differences in the past , so what’s changed ? Why can’t ‘ the science ‘ be debated ?"
Supafreak, it can be debated but the platform has changed significantly. Academics debated science in a disciplined environment where bullshit was dismissed never to be heard again.
What we are now seeing is the Wild West of science where the loudest voice (not the most reasonable voice) gets heard. There's no academic discipline to Rogan getting on some plonker and giving discredited options a massive platform. Public health needs disciplined research that gets peer reviewed by multiple experts. Rogen just platforms people who's opinions don't stand up to any academic rigour.
Stok is right. Who would take on Malone in this environment on a platform not suited for thorough research. A platform with a completely unhinged and/or ignorant audience? That would actually be dangerous and achieve nothing.
We need to get science back into universities and hospitals. Carnival barkers like Rogan are in it for the money. He's simply amplifying clowns who rate well to increase his audience and improve his own bank balance. That shit has consequences. Not good ones.
burleigh wrote:Vic Local wrote:"Haha, better that than having dictator Dans balls hitting you on the chin with every thrust of power."
Hey Burleigh, that's not a comment from a level- headed rational person is it.
Maybe it's time for a break, a long walk, or maybe talk to a mental health professional. Seriously burleigh, you're not well.You may be physically fit burleigh, but that doesn't make you healthy champ. The shit you come up with on this forum doesn't exactly suggest you have good mental health. Get help mate, you're not well.
I’m more than fine mate, never been fitter in my life as a nudge closer to 40.
Surfed twice today in an almighty sweep paddling past kids 20 years younger than me for hours.
You’ve been conditioned to do the governments dirty work. You’re in the cult champ.
bluediamond wrote:That'd be 'health', not 'heath' Mr Academia
Fark! you got me!
Burleigh, stop showing off to teenagers mate, it's a bit weird.
Vic Local wrote:"Scientists have always debated their differences in the past , so what’s changed ? Why can’t ‘ the science ‘ be debated ?"
Supafreak, it can be debated but the platform has changed significantly. Academics debated science in a disciplined environment where bullshit was dismissed never to be heard again.
What we are now seeing is the Wild West of science where the loudest voice (not the most reasonable voice) gets heard. There's no academic discipline to Rogan getting on some plonker and giving discredited options a massive platform. Public health needs disciplined research that gets peer reviewed by multiple experts. Rogen just platforms people who's opinions don't stand up to any academic rigour.
Stok is right. Who would take on Malone in this environment on a platform not suited for thorough research. A platform with a completely unhinged and/or ignorant audience? That would actually be dangerous and achieve nothing.
We need to get science back into universities and hospitals. Carnival barkers like Rogan are in it for the money. He's simply amplifying clowns who rate well to increase his audience and improve his own bank balance. That shit has consequences. Not good ones.
Tell us more about “ Rogan is in it for the money “ how exactly does he make money from this ? He has a $100 million contract with spotify and was already worth millions before that deal so please explain……… @ stok I find your reasons for not debating this very weak but at least you have attempted an answer…. Cheers
Stok wrote:bluediamond wrote:That'd be 'health', not 'heath' Mr Academia
Fark! you got me!
Hehe
Important News for positive pet Owners!
tbb was searching for reasons of Monsoon Covid Virus...flies & wot not...
This is a new field of research that Experts have few > rather...no answers for.
By the way...Yes! Flies spread Covid for 24hrs + surfaces remain damp longer..
Research led tbb to broaden the species to Ticks then Pets ...(Being inside thru Summer Rains!)
Started freaking out about this mad rush on Kitty Litter...Wot's with that?
Dunny Rolls / Tissues / RATS / Kitty Litter ? WTF...
Penny Dropped!
Experts have recently been hiding the ugly fact that Covid is well ripe in Feces....How Ripe!
Well! They know it can reinfect but choose not to go there...as that's the last place any wish to dig thru!
Brings us back to the Kitty Litter War in isle 4.
Here's the freakout...this article only made print yesterday...but it's a real wake up call.
Has the Virus made the Jump...
Covid owner infects the pet Cat that gets sick but fails the Nozzle Swizzle Test (Quite a relief!)
But wait! The Pet shits out Highly Infectious [+] Poop...Oops! that sounds like a Mandated pet cat cull.
All recall the Minks never had a say! (Too bad So sad!) Bye Bye #1 YouTube Divas!
Note! If half the Population will soon have covid then 200 million [+] Cats...will likely have / had Covid.
One must assume if Delta can infect the Pet then surely this has been going on for some time! Shh!
This Covid poop is well infectious in the Kitty Litter Tray...
That explains the rush on Kitty Litter...reckon the Pet owners know more than their lettin' on!
Be sure to kit up when emptying the doo doo!
Just saying! If this news gets out...
Better get yer Cat Vaxed & grab a few Quarry Loads of Kitty Litter before Gina buys all that as well!
Wouldn't hurt to throw a few ivermectin worm tabs in the food bowl! The Cat's Bowl that is!
This story is unbelievable...(Apparently the first Spillover in US!)
What's alarming is this could infect another who takes out the Poop (eg: Owner > Cat > Vet > Kid & on.)
See...none would expect this & may well long be the case...who's to say cats have not been spreaders!
Almost like the Kidz story all over again...Experts : "Don't be silly...Cats can't give you Covid!" Good one!
Feb 6 2022 : "Detection of Covid (Delta Variant) infection in a domestic cat!"
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20220206/Detection-of-SARS-CoV-2-Delta...
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.01.31.478506v1
Just watched a vid on whatsdoin media, of a bloke on the microphone addressing the crowd of peanuts, with a raspy voice which can only be due to excessive amounts of winnie blues and Aldi cans, saying:
"if I had it my way, I'd get everyone out of Canberra, then send in the bombers and turn it into a 9/11 monument, that's just my opinion"
He said this standing next to Malcolm Roberts addressing a crowd who were throwing up the odd confused cheer. I mean, af least he said he'd get everyone out first right?
He also threw a thinly veiled threat to Malcolm Roberts, effectively saying he needs to pick his side otherwise he'll be thrown out when they 'win the war'.
Seriously, these people are the faces and brains(!) behind these pushes to overthrow gov, and they've hook line and sinkered the gullible vaccine hesitant crew who have bought in. These people push the misinformation, push the questions, the doubt and the downright stupid ideologies which have led people down these rabbit holes where they honestly think the government and big pharma are trying to hurt them.
Mandated Bambi & Hello Kitty cull is gaining legs...look away Kiddies.
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20220206/Detection-of-SARS-CoV-2-Delta...
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/07/health/coronavirus-deer-animals.html
Quite substantial Oz Vet infection data is a worrying sign...
Consider these Oz Vets work with animals all day ...they do have high infection rates & shutdowns.
Also note they're well short on test supplies...so we're left guessin' as to any [+] Pets
There has been growing talk of further species spillovers with recent variants.
Anyhow...read into this what ya like...may yet prove damning!
https://www.ava.com.au/news/covid-19-updates/ava-covid-survey-results/
https://www.ava.com.au/contentassets/b3738a6e684740e88a8011d15c66fbda/20...
Careful what you say VicLocal
“Public health needs disciplined research that gets peer reviewed by multiple experts.”
Paxlovid has been approved for use against Covid as an early treatment with no peer review, only a pre-print press release from Pfizer.
You have been a very clear supporter of the government policy on early treatment, surely you can’t support this decision?
Have deaths increased since 2020?
Have age care deaths increased in the last 12 months?
Looks like a bit of bump with Delta, but now with omicron trending around normal.
Speaking of vaccine hesitant crew, did you get your kids vaxxed yet stok?
4 road trains burnt out while waiting at a COVID checkpoint at the WA/SA border yesterday. The fires were blamed on “hot brakes”.
Mark McGowan, when questioned stated he had no knowledge of the incident.
A new Angus Reid poll conducted in Canada showed 54% of Canadians want an end to all Covid restrictions now.
Rumble CEO has offered Joe Rogan $100M over four years to change to an uncensored platform and “make the world a better place”.
Is this the way forward - two internets: one echo-chamber for the left and one open, free-speech, uncensored town-square for everyone else.
Michael Adam wrote:A new Angus Reid poll conducted in Canada showed 54% of Canadians want an end to all Covid restrictions now.
Who’d have thought that over half of all Canadians were white supremacies Nazis?
Rascist, sexist, extremist, homophobic, transphobic blah blah blah etc etc
yawn……
What a fucken dumb poll.
I bet 75% of people want to end all speeding fines. Maybe 80% want to end parking fines. 55% want to end taxation. 85% want to end all war.
Please.
Oh and Blowin - we all know the cooked units make up a very small, but loud %. The problem is these cooked units have hijacked this issue like the parasites they are, and are playing to peoples soft sides and roping them in on their cause.
54% of people in Canada probably don't want a coup d'eta, maybe only 0.5%. But the 0.5% are smart enough* to know they can say the right things and cast the right amount of doubt so that it seems the 54% are actually standing with them.
*they're still very, very dumb.
Sorry bloke, I’m not dumb enough to understand your post.
Is there an adult with a specialty in translating stupid around who could rewrite it for you?
“What a fucken dumb poll
I bet….. 85% want to end all war.”
WTF?
Look, we all know the poll in Canada showing that the majority of Canadians want to remove vaccine mandates is undemocratic.
Vic Local has already told us how he believes Canadians should think on the topic and if the Canadians are too busy getting swastikas tattooed on their foreheads to come to the same conclusion , then they really should have their opinions stricken from the public record.
Dumb AND rascist!
Stok wrote:What a fucken dumb poll.
I bet 75% of people want to end all speeding fines. Maybe 80% want to end parking fines. 55% want to end taxation. 85% want to end all war.
Please.
Oh and Blowin - we all know the cooked units make up a very small, but loud %. The problem is these cooked units have hijacked this issue like the parasites they are, and are playing to peoples soft sides and roping them in on their cause.
54% of people in Canada probably don't want a coup d'eta, maybe only 0.5%. But the 0.5% are smart enough* to know they can say the right things and cast the right amount of doubt so that it seems the 54% are actually standing with them.
*they're still very, very dumb.
100% of Swellnet readers know you’re a bed wetter
Blowin wrote:“What a fucken dumb poll
I bet….. 85% want to end all war.”
WTF?
Sorry Blowin, my bad, let me dumb it down for you.
If you ask people stupid questions in a poll, where the question is broad and may be difficult for people to truly weigh up all pros & cons, you get stupid results.
For example, most people would hastily say they don't want to pay parking fines, but when you explain to them without some form of parking control our cities will be a shit fight of people leaving their cars everywhere, they may think otherwise.
Similar to that dumb covid question.
You think Canadians are too stupid to vote critically because you don’t agree when the majority of them say that vaccine mandates she be abolished?
Are you sure you’re not more inclined towards dictatorships than democracy bloke?
News flash: “ Authoritarian minded bloke believes the public are not smart enough to be trusted with making decisions regarding their own lives”.
What a surprising outcome!
Hey Stok, just between you and me, you’re not too bright are you bloke?
Won’t vaccinate his family but wants to mandate others to take it
Interesting
What a FEAR mongering headline by ABC:
Queensland: 11 children in hospital with COVID
Followed by this:
"Most, if not all of these, will be in hospital for a reason other than COVID," Chief Health Officer John Gerrard said.
And you wonder why the Australian public have no trust in our government and media.
shoredump wrote:Won’t vaccinate his family but wants to mandate others to take it
Interesting
Is Stok RAT testing his kids twice per week and sending them to school in a mask like a good boy?
Please Blowin, you're mixed up in mish mash of populism fantasy.
We have a democracy, so does Canada. Canadians are smart enough to weigh up party policies before the make their vote. A simple poll doesn't hold the same value or attention - hence the results will usually be of low meaning. Particularly when the question posed is so plain old dumb.
So we should put everything to referendum right?
Or, if >50% of the population disagree with a policy - is it time to charge parliament house and let the 50% rule in manner they see fit?
Is that sort of self centred lunacy which has annoyingly become semi acceptable to some people over the last couple of years, which if left unchecked will begin to unravel society.
Cheers Stok. In appreciate you taking the time to explain things to me. Pretty sure I’ve got your opinion squared away :
If Stok agrees with the opinion of the majority its democracy in action.
If Stok disagrees with the opinion of the majority it’s detestable populism.
Got it bloke.
Hey Stok, I think blowin genuinely believes the majority of Canadians support the lunatics rallying in Ottawa.
He's as deluded as those numpties who issue legal papers to politicians and judges telling them they are being tried for treason.
Best course of action is to laugh at these cooked idiots or try and get them out of the cult.
"It’s obviously not easy to give up fear of Covid-19, to judge from a recent survey showing that the vaccinated are actually more frightened than the unvaccinated. Another survey found that most Democratic voters are so worried that they want to make it illegal for the unvaccinated to leave home. But before you don another mask or disinfect another surface, before you cheer on politicians and school officials enforcing mandates, consider your odds of a fatal Covid case once you’ve been vaccinated.
Those odds can be gauged from a study by researchers at the National Institutes of Health, published by the Centers for Disease Control. They tracked more than 1 million vaccinated adults in America over most of last year, including the period when the Delta variant was surging, and classified victims of Covid according to risk factors such as being over 65, being immunosuppressed, or suffering from diabetes or chronic diseases of the heart, kidney, lungs, liver or brain.
The researchers report that none of the healthy people under 65 had a severe case of Covid that required treatment in an intensive-care unit. Not a single one of these nearly 700,000 people died, and the risk was miniscule for most older people, too. Among vaccinated people over 65 without an underlying medical condition, only one person died. In all, there were 36 deaths, mostly among a small minority of older people with a multitude of comorbidities: the 3 percent of the sample that had at least four risk factors. Among everyone else, a group that included elderly people with one or two chronic conditions, there were just eight deaths among more than 1.2 million people, so their risk of dying was about 1 in 150,000.
Those are roughly the same odds that in the course of a year you will die in a fire, or that you’ll perish by falling down stairs. Going anywhere near automobiles is a bigger risk: you’re three times more likely during a given year to be killed while riding in a car, and also three times more likely to be a pedestrian casualty. The 150,000-to-1 odds of a Covid death are even longer than the odds over your lifetime of dying in an earthquake or being killed by lightning..."
https://www.city-journal.org/understanding-the-covid-odds?wallit_nosessi...
I think we may have overeacted a little...
a little more than a lot...
reboot time
(which should include a big boot to
the perpetually triggered and trigger happy)
Dictator Dan must not want any tourists into Melbourne.
"Daniel Andrews has warned international arrivals will have to be triple vaccinated to be allowed into Victoria"
The enablers DickVocal & Cok must be real proud of themselves for sticking with this peanut.
What was the world most liveable city, now the laughing stock of the world.
"If those odds still aren’t enough to assuage your dread of Covid, consider one more statistic, based on Ioannidis’s analysis of data from Covid tests and seroprevalence surveys. He estimates that in the United States, a nation of 331 million people, there have been a total of 250 million to 350 million Covid infections since the pandemic began. While that estimate includes some people who were infected more than once, it seems clear that the vast majority of Americans have already survived an infection and acquired natural immunity, many without being aware of it. Many don’t realize—and a horde of journalists and public officials are working hard to keep them ignorant—that their enemy today is not a virus in the air but the fear in their minds."
"What was the world most liveable city, now the laughing stock of the world."
to be fair... this 'most livable city' stuff, was already the laughing stock of the world for anyone outside of melbourne....
What a pile of steaming bollocks.
These people are spinning so much even their blood is twisted.
Did he? Didn't he?
Don't mention the clots, I did once, but I think I got away with it...
https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-queensland-updates-new-cas...
Hey Sypkan, I'm still waiting on your proof after you said I wanted Trump and Hanson supporters to die of Covid. Come on champ, that was your pathetic defence after I called you a fascist for wanting a recently elected PM violently removed from office.
Yes, you do have zero credibility.
During Question Period today, @CandiceBergenMP accuses PM Trudeau of "causing division by overtly politicizing vaccines." She demands to know when the government will end all COVID-19 restrictions. #cdnpoli pic.twitter.com/yoq66VoKEG
— True North (@TrueNorthCentre) February 7, 2022
Blowin wrote:Cheers Stok. In appreciate you taking the time to explain things to me. Pretty sure I’ve got your opinion squared away :
If Stok agrees with the opinion of the majority its democracy in action.
If Stok disagrees with the opinion of the majority it’s detestable populism.
Got it bloke.
Er, no Blokemate.
Remember the carbon pricing legislation, brought in 10 years ago or whatever. I fundamentally believed it was a great initiative, and although it had rats and mice, was a step in the right direction. I was supportive of it.
Nek minit, lobby groups start having a big whinge, telling the public how the world will end unless we vote this mob out etc. etc. and what do you know, democracy in action? Abbot comes in, removes price on carbon, replaces it with some ridiculous scheme. Years later, Australia remains an extremely poor performer from an environmental perspective.
Now, one could say leaving large corps to have free reign and power over the quality of life our children and childrens children will have is pretty friggin important. Vaccine madates are a pittance compared to this - but - guess what? Did I ramp up the troops of dumbfucks, walk them to the steps of parliament house and demand to the Governor General, or Queen Elizabeth that the current Government is unlawful, and needs to be sacked under the grace of god (which is what people are doing)? Was I part of a movement which appealed to the lowest common denominator, that brought out the worst in people? Did I encourage supply chains to be disrupted?
No, I just didn't vote for Liberal in the ensuing election.
nice try to deplatform champ, again....
because you want to divert attention away from the inconveniant data, again...
the CDC study champ... you, you miserable fuck, have more chance of dying from a lightening strike than covid the study suggests...
but you old paranoid, terribly out of touch, fear mongering, dictator dan minions are still plugging away at mandates, and totally unscientific vaccinations for little kids...
nice try champ, but the numbers are all there...
(as are the posts, if one was inclined to that high school mean girl deplatforming type behaviours...)
carry on...
'winning'
twit
Vic Local wrote:Hey Sypkan, I'm still waiting on your proof after you said I wanted Trump and Hanson supporters to die of Covid. Come on champ, that was your pathetic defence after I called you a fascist for wanting a recently elected PM violently removed from office.
Yes, you do have zero credibility.
It's not like spanky to go quiet haha
I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..
There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia