COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster

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Craig started the topic in Wednesday, 18 Mar 2020 at 7:44pm

I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..

There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia

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brutus Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 5:02pm

Blowin , wow what's up fella.....not sure you realize there is a big difference between the Delta and Omicron.......you got vaccinated as delta was a real worry and all the stats show unvaccinated people were really the majority of cases being admitted to Hospitals , there has been a change now where it looks like vaccinations aren't working as well as with Omicron....do you think yelling insults , and making up stuff really helps you??

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So it’s been a few hours since I suggested the shitbags who demanded the unvaccinated health workers be sacked and then bleated that there isn’t enough health workers ( Another cause for PANIC if you hadn’t already guessed ) should reflect on their actions now it’s obvious that there’s zero connection between infection and vaccine status.

What’s that ? Absolute silence from the shitbags.

Just pretend it didn’t happen blokes. Pretend you’re not utter carnts!

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brutus Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 5:02pm

Blowin , wow what's up fella.....not sure you realize there is a big difference between the Delta and Omicron.......you got vaccinated as delta was a real worry and all the stats show unvaccinated people were really the majority of cases being admitted to Hospitals , there has been a change now where it looks like vaccinations aren't working as well as with Omicron....do you think yelling insults , and making up stuff really helps you??

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So it’s been a few hours since I suggested the shitbags who demanded the unvaccinated health workers be sacked and then bleated that there isn’t enough health workers ( Another cause for PANIC if you hadn’t already guessed ) should reflect on their actions now it’s obvious that there’s zero connection between infection and vaccine status.

What’s that ? Absolute silence from the shitbags.

Just pretend it didn’t happen blokes. Pretend you’re not utter carnts!

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aaron61 Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 5:18pm

Have a crack at this 40 minute doc.

Haven't watched it yet, so no opinion.

Interesting or tin foilers?

https://thecovidworld.com/shocking-new-video-by-canadian-doctors-reveals...

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Supafreak Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 5:21pm
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Interesting point Supafreak that many of his peers believe he's lost the plot. There's probably alot more to that and i'd be interested if they're just protecting their own backsides. Hard to know.
Also Indo, interesting opinion and appreciate you shared it. I get that you could get put off a bit through it, there's parts i cringed through at times too, however, the one over riding question that kept me listening is, what's in it for him? When he presents what appear to sound like factual figures, statistics and data, that he could easily get called out on, but to my knowledge hasn't been(?) and he puts his reputation on the line, and he mentioned his legal costs are going to be in the millions (?) then why would he do that? It's hard to go past his medical standing and authority.
I'm open minded to it though. And agreed Supa, Rogan is a great interviewer. He doesn't let the opportunity for critical questions to slip by.

He also has support , there’s 16,000 doctors signed up and they have held covid conferences in various parts of the world. Professor Peter Doherty is shocked at the stance McCullough has taken around vaccines. McCullough is a well published cardiologist however and has treated patients for covid since day one . As indo pointed out some things he said really don’t add up , catching covid more than once was rare before omicron came along. Dr Malone got covid early in 2020 and suffered from long covid, he then got vaccinated with Moderna and suffered again, then got covid a second time. He’s been through the wringer with the whole thing. I believe it was Australia’s Professor Thomas Borody that first treated McCullough when he also got covid in early 2020.

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Roadkill Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 5:25pm
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@Roadkill , you obviously don’t like Joe Rogan , to me he’s just asking questions and often challenges those on his podcasts. Some of his questions are really good and he’s no dummy. I had never heard of him before indo put up a few links . His Malone interview is the biggest viewing podcast of all time I think ( 40-50 million )

Assumptions, SF? I love Rogan, I listen to lots of his stuff..it’s fantastic as he is a great interviewer.
I prefer his interview with Snoop over Malone. He gets super interesting people on…far more interesting than most media…even the crazies he interviews are interesting.

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Roadkill Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 5:27pm
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So it’s been a few hours since I suggested the shitbags who demanded the unvaccinated health workers be sacked and then bleated that there isn’t enough health workers ( Another cause for PANIC if you hadn’t already guessed ) should reflect on their actions now it’s obvious that there’s zero connection between infection and vaccine status.

What’s that ? Absolute silence from the shitbags.

Just pretend it didn’t happen blokes. Pretend you’re not utter carnts!

No reply, because you are becoming more unhinged daily.

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Roadkill Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 5:29pm
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Ahhh, should have put a *
*everyone except Roadkill, who just likes to shout a conversation down....[/quote

Where did I shout it down?

Not today, every other day though Roady. You would benefit more than most by listening to this i reckon.

All else fails..play victim….whine about the very thing you yourself does daily.

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Supafreak Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 5:32pm
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@Roadkill , you obviously don’t like Joe Rogan , to me he’s just asking questions and often challenges those on his podcasts. Some of his questions are really good and he’s no dummy. I had never heard of him before indo put up a few links . His Malone interview is the biggest viewing podcast of all time I think ( 40-50 million )

Assumptions, SF? I love Rogan, I listen to lots of his stuff..it’s fantastic as he is a great interviewer.
I prefer his interview with Snoop over Malone. He gets super interesting people on…far more interesting than most media…even the crazies he interviews are interesting.

Yes it was an assumption, thanks for correcting me .

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indo-dreaming Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 5:36pm
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Interesting point Supafreak that many of his peers believe he's lost the plot. There's probably alot more to that and i'd be interested if they're just protecting their own backsides. Hard to know.
Also Indo, interesting opinion and appreciate you shared it. I get that you could get put off a bit through it, there's parts i cringed through at times too, however, the one over riding question that kept me listening is, what's in it for him? When he presents what appear to sound like factual figures, statistics and data, that he could easily get called out on, but to my knowledge hasn't been(?) and he puts his reputation on the line, and he mentioned his legal costs are going to be in the millions (?) then why would he do that? It's hard to go past his medical standing and authority.
I'm open minded to it though. And agreed Supa, Rogan is a great interviewer. He doesn't let the opportunity for critical questions to slip by.

I actually thought something similar after listening to most of it, on how he could be wrong when he is obviously well qualified and respected and very smart, why would he say things that aren't true? or he didn't truely believe what he was saying as what's in it for him?

But i just began questioning things he was saying and then the not being able to get Covid twice was kind of my turning point for me.

That said i still think he had some good points about treatment being ignored etc and i wouldn't be surprised if some of these treatments that have been written off as not working at all, probably do have some benefits if taken very early when getting Covid.

It would be interesting to see someone knowledgeable do a proper fact check on many of his points, but a real fact check that only cares about the truth one not one with an agenda or bias.

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truebluebasher Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 5:41pm

15th Feb TGA approve Pfizer / AZ Vax
15th Feb Pfizer arrived for Batch Testing.

21st Feb " Live Vax Event" As Oz watches on in horror as Unvaccinated Doctor Jabz our Leader.
Unvaccinated Doctor then jabz our CMO Professor Paul Kelly + several more Unvaxed jabbed GPs.
5 weeks later Oz 1st Med practitioners became fully vaccinated to Vaccinate with Covid immunity.
During this time Fed Health Minister said Phase 1 would be wrapping up!
Phase 1 High Risk / Frontline Covid - Medicos- Quarantine- Border Patrol - Age Care / Workers.

There are no reports...Not one! 10,000's of "Unvaccinated" Oz Phase 1 Mass jabbing of one another.
How were these unvaccinated Heroes able to breach risk settings & be vaxed by non vaxed.
Why was there no Mass Outbreaks?

Ok! Let's rewind & Start from the beginning!
There is no requirement for strictly Vaccinated to immunize with Pfizer or AZ...Why!
All can read the Guides...not a mention of it in the slightest! Everything but the obvious!
Coz Pfizer would lose 5 weeks sales in each drop + AZ would lose 12 week contracts.

TGA Gold Standard : "Get an Unvaxed guy to stick it in the PM's arm live on Telly & see if it works!"
It's all very sciency to us simple folk!

Note that Feds can't + States won't mandate immunizers to take the jab!
Again! It would take either 3+2 wks or 12+2 weeks delay before immunizer could Jab first patient.
Oz needed 10,000s of jabberz...who cares wot colour or breed or even if they've seen the Vid!
This most likely never happened in nearly all of Phase 1 settings so it was free to continue as such!

As states mandated frontline ICU Hubs the outcasts were reassigned = pay jobs (eg: Vaccinators!)
However! States first needed to create equal jobs in (Aligned) Pharmacies / Mass Vax Hubs!
Lonely Vaxed ICU workers complained of unvaxed staff swanning 2x pay at Bunnings Sausage sizzle.

Even to this day ...there is no mandate for Vaccinating Pharmacy / Hub immunizers! Why!
Firstly! Vax Course can be done online outside of mandated State Health Risk Hubs!
2nd! Immunizers are like Pathologists and work alone...who is qualified to vax the Immunizer?
Small Practice would need to rush a 2nd employee or close, to comply to any costly mandate delay!
Also consider that these Hubs were created to take heat off the Boiling brew in Hospital Ranks.

Majority of Aussies > Phase 1 > Mass Hubs / Chemists & such were vaxed by unvaxed...durr!
Even Hospital staff dose 2 were still not vaxed by Fully Vaxed...only a very few would've been!
Fair to say it was a Rollout of the Unvaxed vaxing the Unvaxed...even as tbb writes > None Care!
So why the fuck sack Unvaxed Frontline staff & reward- then unvaxed who were vaxed by them!

Crew can see there are only shades of Vax Mandate.
PM set the example of Unvaxed Frontline Staff Vaxing untested Vax in High Risk Crowded Clinic.

Pause!

Continues...
28th Feb AZ Arrives
6th March Unvaxed Medico Jabz AZ into Ex PM + Fed Health Minister (Who nearly dies! No joke!)
Still no one cares that unvaxed Doc nearly took out our #1 Health dude in Pandemic? Huh!
30th May Greg Hunt gets 2nd Jab...still gotta wait 2 weeks for immunity.

13th June is the earliest date for first vaccinated AZ immunizer to Jab in a Mandated Hospital setting.
23rd June Qld AZ mandated deadline (10 day AZ Vax window or lose yer job!) > extended 29th June
https://www.health.qld.gov.au/system-governance/legislation/cho-public-h...

29th June Only now is first Oz State able to crew 100% mandated Vaxed Immunizers
Only after 820k Qld doses or 4m Oz doses did a 'possible' crew of Vaccinators reach Full immunity.
Followed by....
26th Nov Vic 93.3% / 90.5% vaxed before they mandated your Fully Vaxed Jabber (Not a word...shh!)
30th Nov NSW 94.6% / 92.6% vaxed....Gladys was long gone & no Fully Vaccinated immunizers.
Crew can see that Vic/NSW Vaxed are 90.5 - 94.6% or 2x approving of their unvaxxed healthy Jabz.
Unless these crews get detoxed, then their love of unvaccinated lives within them till their graves!

Recap! Vaccinated Immunizers are not mandated...only the State Health Vax settings.
Very few worked in Frontline settings & quite a few were reallocated jobs in "Exempt" Civic Centres
QR Vaccinated codes forced unvaxed vaccinators to more open Hubs eg: Bunnings / Tents / [P]
Crew are no fools, reallocation kept the Unions off their backs, then order 1500 exempt visas for ICU.

Again! Not tbb not the crew will make a song and dance about it or mandate Vax...just as they said!
If PM & Frontline are fine with it, then we must equally salute our unvaxed frontline Heroes!
PS: Outdoor Booster Hubs may very well be staffed by unvaxed, not illegal & it's not polite to ask!

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bluediamond Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 5:38pm

Thanks @supafreak. Good information and appreciated.
@Indo i think he mentioned he'd love to get on the poddy again and have a proper debate with someone that opposes his opinions. That would be good.
@roaddill..... nothing.

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Craig Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 5:50pm

Not scared Blowin just pointing out the stats.

I also listened to half of that Rogan podcast and it started well but then lost track over time going more conspiracy route. That's how they seem to do these things, start off well informed etc and accurate, making you agree then boom, take the road left down the rabbit hole.

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Roadkill Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 5:57pm
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Thanks @supafreak. Good information and appreciated.
@Indo i think he mentioned he'd love to get on the poddy again and have a proper debate with someone that opposes his opinions. That would be good.
@roaddill..... nothing.

TBH, BD. Thats all you ever have, nothing. Unless someone agrees with you and then your poor knowledge is suited.

Hey, if it sounds factual it must be fact. Lmao.

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bluediamond Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 6:05pm

Good stuff @roadkill. Keep it coming. *thumbs up!

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Roadkill Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 6:05pm
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@Roadkill , you obviously don’t like Joe Rogan , to me he’s just asking questions and often challenges those on his podcasts. Some of his questions are really good and he’s no dummy. I had never heard of him before indo put up a few links . His Malone interview is the biggest viewing podcast of all time I think ( 40-50 million )

Assumptions, SF? I love Rogan, I listen to lots of his stuff..it’s fantastic as he is a great interviewer.
I prefer his interview with Snoop over Malone. He gets super interesting people on…far more interesting than most media…even the crazies he interviews are interesting.

Yes it was an assumption, thanks for correcting me .

When it comes to covid, Rogan is a pretty poor choice to gather info. He 100% has a bias, he doesn't hide it, it is just what he thinks and he is pretty open about it.
You have to be pretty gullible and stupid to not realise it is complete bs…as Craig alluded to, it become full kook conspiracy half way in.

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Supafreak Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 6:15pm

@roadkill , sorry I’m not following you , are you talking about the Malone podcast ? If so what part do you find is complete conspiracy bs ?

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bluediamond Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 6:18pm

@ roaddill said..
'When it comes to covid, Rogan is a pretty poor choice to gather info. He 100% has a bias, he doesn't hide it, it is just what he thinks and he is pretty open about it.
You have to be pretty gullible and stupid to not realise it is complete bs…as Craig alluded to, it become full kook conspiracy half way in.'
Rogan is the interviewer...not the interviewee, You even admitted to liking his Snoopdog interview earlier.....you muppet!! Do you believe anything Snoopdog says because he's on Rogan.
Yes Craig said he listened to half. Not all of it. There's parts that are questionable. Probably the same as ol Snoops interviews.
But the guys is incredibly knowledgeable. He knows his shit. To be so black and white to discredit him and write it off is showing what your true motives are on here. Without an open mind how can an open discussion ever be had??
Have you actually listened to it? If not, how can anything you say about it hold any substance or credibility??

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Roadkill Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 6:20pm
Supafreak wrote:

@roadkill , sorry I’m not following you , are you talking about the Malone podcast ? If so what part do you find is complete conspiracy bs ?

Really…how on earth would you think I am talking about the Malone podcast?
It’s pretty clear what I said. Never mind.

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Supafreak Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 6:22pm
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Not scared Blowin just pointing out the stats.

I also listened to half of that Rogan podcast and it started well but then lost track over time going more conspiracy route. That's how they seem to do these things, start off well informed etc and accurate, making you agree then boom, take the road left down the rabbit hole.

I watched the whole episode Craig, I don’t have to accept any of it , I don’t mind listening to what people like Malone have to say though. There is so much controversy about the whole thing . An example is people being sent home with tylenol and told to come back if they got really sick, which by then, for a lot of people was too late .

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Supafreak Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 6:25pm

Bit touchy there roadkill .

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Roadkill Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 6:29pm
Supafreak wrote:

Bit touchy there roadkill .

Not at all…if you struggle to comprehend simple posts, I’m not overly concerned or interested in explaining further.

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Supafreak Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 6:48pm

Definitely touchy

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truebluebasher Monday, 3 Jan 2022 at 12:53am

The New Year re-sets several new & already broken Oz Hospital records
28th Sept 2021 Oz record 1254 patients > (Spring / Summer low) 28th Nov 2021 > 386 patients
1st Jan 2022 record 1353 patients > 2nd Jan smashes 2022 record 1550 patients > (Sky is the limit)

Most surprising...is it's not the Big Bullies NSW / Vic / ACT pushing us outta bed...
Noting these are daily clean-out counts...not cumulative! (Wot ya see has to be cleared out & fast!)
1st Nov NT (1 Patient) > Record 27th Dec 2021 NT (114 Patients) 1 ICU
25th Nov Qld (3 patients) > Record 2nd Jan 2022 (107 Patients) 5 ICU
1st Dec SA (1 Patient ) > Record 2nd Jan 2022 (82 Patients) 7 ICU + 1 vent.

tbb raised increasing deaths in recent 2021 Oz review...ABC shows this stark reality of recent deaths.
Clear to all that deaths are a more prominent during this High Vax era...no matter who's at risk!
No expert is truly conveying rising deaths on Breaky TV...In fact! Experts trumpet the opposite!
Govt may let this power up & then use the shock Death Factor to exercise more harsh control.
Pretty sure the crew are all on the same page with this...we all see more Govt Control creeping in!
Creepy Death Tally being a perfect instrument to legitimize any ramping up of Bully tactics.

Doubles as correction...tbb used 'approx' Govt data back to 25th Jan (First Case) in earlier account.
This being an alternate count to equally demonstrate these silent stats that scream the loudest!
30th March 2020 > 15th Sept 2021 (= Deaths =) 15th Sept 2021 > 31st Dec 2021
Clearly deaths are rising much faster & more worrying than ever before! (Just not on yer telly...please!)
Click [All] Button to reveal this Oz Data ( PS: Ignore Scomo/Dan's classy twin Body dump piles )
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-17/coronavirus-cases-data-reveals-ho...

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Blowin Monday, 3 Jan 2022 at 5:34am

Remember when we used to laugh about the ludicrous censorship of China, Kim Jong Il and the USSR?

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Blowin Monday, 3 Jan 2022 at 6:14am

Fake Left don’t do self awareness, they don’t need to, because those who live the Fake Left ideology prioritise their cultish ideology over reality.

As established by reality of outcomes , there is no real world difference between the incidence of transmission of the virus based on vaccine status , so the vaccine mandate and medical apartheid is dead in the water , based as it is on political opportunism and an ugly ideology of hate-fuelled social division So without wanting to invoke Godwin’s law, how am I meant to interpret this fuckstiks declaration that Canadian society won’t “tolerate “ the unvaccinated. Who are also racist and misogynistic ( lolol ) ?

This man needs to go to gaol now. Right now.

Same bloke …serial offender.

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brutus Monday, 3 Jan 2022 at 6:15am

Blowin , it really seems that SN is not good for you....your last post ," Fake Left don’t do self awareness, they don’t need to, because those who live the Fake Left ideology prioritise their cultish ideology over reality.

Can you even imagine what’s inside the mind of someone ready to bleat this kinds of hateful, divisive and socially destructive rubbish. It’s red meat to his followers though….a dog whistle for the dumb cunts"...........this last part of your post is actually describing your self here on SN.....there are a lot of good people that come on and comment.....but you seem to have degenerated into an insult laden , angry ate everything and everybody that doesn't agree with your opinion ...which sadly is very lite on with facts to support some of your rants......

I think it's got to the point where we shouldn't feed your rants and insults , it's not good for anyof us....I mean why do you come onto SN ???

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Blowin , it really seems that SN is not good for you....your last post ," Fake Left don’t do self awareness, they don’t need to, because those who live the Fake Left ideology prioritise their cultish ideology over reality.

Can you even imagine what’s inside the mind of someone ready to bleat this kinds of hateful, divisive and socially destructive rubbish. It’s red meat to his followers though….a dog whistle for the dumb cunts"...........this last part of your post is actually describing your self here on SN.....there are a lot of good people that come on and comment.....but you seem to have degenerated into an insult laden , angry ate everything and everybody that doesn't agree with your opinion ...which sadly is very lite on with facts to support some of your rants......

I think it's got to the point where we shouldn't feed your rants and insults , it's not good for anyof us....I mean why do you come onto SN ???

I come onto these threads to vent my frustration at the wrongs wrought on our country by the shouty evil fear mongering fuckwads who ignore truth and science to push their barrow of Covid Cult doom prophesy. These flogs get on here and incite genuine harm on real people they want kids injected with poison and financially insecure blue collar workers locked in their homes or sacked because they don’t conform to their irrational demands. They’re scum and a few cyber words is the least they deserve.

Are you one of those people Brutus?

You’ve definitely done your share of turning up the irrational panic to 11. As for my posts being “lite on facts “ ….yeah bloke. Show me a single thing you can prove isn’t true.

And to be honest, I don’t care what you’re into but I really don’t think someone who quotes “The Lord “ should be pointing the finger about who’s talking facts and who isn’t ….capeesh?

“So once it became clear that covid was not in fact a pagan god visiting vengeance on the unwashed Trump voters alone, the media and Democrats are now willing to admit the following:

1. Cloth masks are ineffective against omicron (Leanna Wen, CNN);

2. The vaccinated can spread and get covid;

3. The death rate is comparable to the flu (Chris Hayes);

4. Many people are entering hospitals with covid, not from covid (Fauci);

5. Natural immunity is a reason omicron hasn't been as virulent (Fauci);

6. We have to take into account societal needs, not just spread prevention (CDC);

7. The asymptomatic should not be tested (NFL);

8. We should focus on hospitalizations and deaths, not case rate (Biden);

9. Children are not at risk and schools should remain open;

10. Covid is predominantly an illness affecting the immunocompromised and elderly and we should not shut down society.“

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brutus Monday, 3 Jan 2022 at 6:59am

So blowin, you come on SN to try and change peoples opinions....how do you think that's going?

Your latest point about hospitalization's and the Flu was not true ..as are a lot of stuff you quote as facts.....using CNN/Biden/chris hayes etc.....to try and back up your opinion.....you are only venting on here and and making yourself a target of peoples frustration.....

when you say ,"10. Covid is predominantly an illness affecting the immunocompromised and elderly and we should not shut down society.“.......there are now more kids and people under 50 getting illness's now than ever before ...so your statement if false , as is your opinion.....

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Craig Monday, 3 Jan 2022 at 7:37am

If that's the case Supa they should definitely change the target age range and sex regarding the relevant mRNA vaccines.

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Supafreak Monday, 3 Jan 2022 at 7:57am
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If that's the case Supa they should definitely change the target age range and sex regarding the relevant mRNA vaccines.

2 of the FDA scientists have resigned over this . The need for a different type of vaccine is real in my opinion and Petrovsky is stating that now 6 million doses of his vaccine has been administered with out one case of myocarditis .

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Roadkill Monday, 3 Jan 2022 at 8:38am
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Fake Left don’t do self awareness, they don’t need to, because those who live the Fake Left ideology prioritise their cultish ideology over reality.

As established by reality of outcomes , there is no real world difference between the incidence of transmission of the virus based on vaccine status , so the vaccine mandate and medical apartheid is dead in the water , based as it is on political opportunism and an ugly ideology of hate-fuelled social division So without wanting to invoke Godwin’s law, how am I meant to interpret this fuckstiks declaration that Canadian society won’t “tolerate “ the unvaccinated. Who are also racist and misogynistic ( lolol ) ?

This man needs to go to gaol now. Right now.

https://twitter.com/KevinBardosh/status/1476838517007257600?s=20

Same bloke …serial offender.

Snowflake, your rants are becoming more ranty.

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Roadkill Monday, 3 Jan 2022 at 9:22am

Had xmas drinks last Wed, there was 4 families and 7 kids in total. 4 of the kids and 3 parents have all tested positive. No issues with us so far…no sore throat or flu symptoms. We don’t have to get tested under the current conditions…interesting times.

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Roadkill Monday, 3 Jan 2022 at 9:44am
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Maybe Harvey Norman can donate some RATs https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-02/sydney-charity-steps-up-call-free...

Price gouging going on all over the place, up to $160 for RAT. I bought 10 the other day for $13 each. I gave a couple away to an old couple that needed to have them done to visit their grandkids over the xmas break.

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discoduma Monday, 3 Jan 2022 at 9:45am

Been reading this thread from the start and its been very entertaining. thought I better contribute with my covid experience.

Myself (fully vaxed) partner (first dose) and 4 week old daughter had friends, a couple from Melbourne both fully vaxed visit from Christmas eve through to Boxing Day.

He started getting symptoms Christmas Day to having full blown symptoms Boxing Day.

they left the next day, she had symptoms the day after. positive results took 3 days for them.

the 3 of us tested negative 3 times and have just finished our isolation at home. no symptoms what so ever.

we were playing cards, drinking booze and all sorts on Christmas Day and probably shared a glass here and there...

we are considering ourselves extremely lucky..

what I take out of this is they were both in there late 20's, living in Collingwood and heavy drinkers. he had just come off a Christmas party bender in Sydney, so assume thats where he got it and where he weakened his immune system..

we are both quite fit and healthy..

im very disappointed there hasn't been a campaign to promote healthy living at all considering everything opened up 2 weeks before a festive season that was always going to be out of control...

word from friends in Melbourne is that knowingly positive young crew are still going and on the extra curriculars, no one seems to care anymore...but im also not hearing of anyone getting to crook

good luck!

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blindboy Monday, 3 Jan 2022 at 10:13am

Latest NSW data. It shows that hospitalisations are likely to exceed the delta peak as daily case numbers are already much the same but clearly with much greater scope to continue rising. I doubt anyone can make more than an educated guess as to how high that number will rise, the next wek or so should give us a better idea. The percentage of ICU patients needing ventilation is far lower which is further evidence for omicron being milder.
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Blowin Monday, 3 Jan 2022 at 10:47am

Hospitalisation data only reflects people who have recently tested positive to a covid test ( within a few weeks) and are not indicative of mass increase in people requiring hospital treatment due to the covid virus.

The hospitalisation numbers have NO MERIT as a metric to indicate the severity of illness and it’s impact on soviety.

What percentage of the hospitalisation statistics would be in hospital anyway? No one pays attention to hospitalisation rates in a normal summer and this summer should be no different.

I repeat….hospitalisation numbers are virtually meaningless in the context of public safety.

Omicron is less severe than a common influenza strain and society should ignore the fucking idiots who would have you believe they are waiting on further evidence before they can assess the situation.

Repost of Gromfull’s post. Excellent illustration of the context in which the current situation should be considered. The fear mongers will never release their black grip on the souls of those they subdue with their evil incitement of panic unless they are loudly refuted.

Just remember…..they still want to poison your kids, force you to get their boosters and exclude you from society if you refuse to conform to their unscientific Covid Cult.

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blindboy Monday, 3 Jan 2022 at 10:45am

Swellnet's favourite fabulist fires up for further fuckwitticisms.

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Blowin Monday, 3 Jan 2022 at 10:53am
blindboy wrote:

Swellnet's favourite fabulist fires up for further fuckwitticisms.

You realise you’ve never disproved a single thing I’ve said on this entire thread don’t you bloke?

You post unsubstantiated, mis informative , miscontextuslised bullshit in order to confuse people into falling for your freaky fear porn addiction. It doesn’t work . You’re a sicko. You need help.

That hospitalisation graph you just posted made you moist yet it has no bearing on the actual threat the flu-like virus poses to people. People with broken legs who just happen to test positive to your favourite virus is what it represents and nothing more. You know this and don’t care because you live to shout fire in theatres.

You need to face criminal charges.

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burleigh Monday, 3 Jan 2022 at 10:57am

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/up-to-half-of-nsw-co...

I’ll just leave this here for RK, Vic, blind boy and Co.

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blindboy Monday, 3 Jan 2022 at 11:09am

Your statements are self-evidently false as they consistently dispute carefully evaluated data and expert opinion. Your views are supported by nothing more than hot air, insults and irrelevancies. If you made any sort of valid point, I would consider it. But as everyone here, except little sir echo and the easily confused one agrees, you never do.

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Blowin Monday, 3 Jan 2022 at 10:59am

It’s actually fucking sick that people don’t realise how sick this behaviour is.

A blocked fucking nose!

It’s totally true about the mass psychosis.

It’s a type of meta- sickness. The mental and societal destruction was worse than the virus ever was.

These sickos thank the vaccination for saving their healthy 19 year old daughter! Fuck me…..these people have been brainwashed by the criminally profiteering pirates who inflicted this mental torture upon them.

“Y2K bug would have killed our daughter if the Microsoft anti-Y2K bug program hadn’t saved her !”….. lolol
https://www.smh.com.au/national/our-daughter-s-home-detention-is-over-ma...

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AndyM Monday, 3 Jan 2022 at 11:01am

Britain's long-lasting lockdown described as "morally wrong" by Professor Mark Woolhouse, an expert on infectious diseases at Edinburgh University.

In response to a statement by a politician that "everyone is at risk" and that "the virus did not discriminate", Professor Woodhouse argued that nothing could be further from the truth.

“I am afraid [the] statement was simply not true,” he says. “In fact, this is a very discriminatory virus. Some people are much more at risk from it than others. People over 75 are an astonishing 10,000 times more at risk than those who are under 15.”

And it was this failure to understand the wide variations in individual responses to Covid-19 that led to Britain’s flawed responses to the disease’s appearance, he argues – errors that included the imposition of a long-lasting, national lockdown. This is a strategy that Woolhouse – one of the country’s leading epidemiologists – describes as morally wrong and highly damaging.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/02/britain-got-it-wrong-on-co...

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Blowin Monday, 3 Jan 2022 at 11:08am
blindboy wrote:

Your statements are self-evidently false as they consistently dispute carefully evaluated data and expert opinion. Your views are supported by nothing more than hot air, insults and irrelevancies. If you made any sort of valid point, I would consider it. But as everyone here, except little sir echo and the easily confused one agrees, you never do.

No bloke. You are lying. Hers a quote from Burleigh’s link above which directly proves that you are deliberately being disingenuous in order to incite fear ….as you have done through this entire situation.

Will you now finally reflect on what an anti-social piece of shit you are ? No, you will not.

The headline says it all and proves how much of a devious sicko fuck you are :

‘Up to half’ of NSW Covid hospital patients went in for something totally different and were positive in routine testing
Serious questions are being asked about Covid hospitalisation stats after NSW revealed a very surprising fact about its daily figures.

“With Covid cases going through the roof, we’re often asked to look at the rate of hospitalisation and deaths as a true indicator of the disease’s impact on our respective states and territories.
However it has been revealed that hundreds of patients counted in the Covid hospitalisation tally in NSW — the worst hit state in the current outbreak — were not taken to hospital because of the virus at all.

The state’s Health Minister has revealed that many of those listed as having being “hospitalised” for the virus are simply testing positive in routine checks after being admitted for broken bones, labour pains or even mental health issues.

As of Sunday morning, there were 1066 people with Covid in hospital in NSW, with 83 in ICU.

Brad Hazzard admitted over two days during the week, up to half of those cases were in hospital for something else entirely — raising questions about how hospitalisation figures are reported.

“A reasonable proportion of cases being classified as Covid hospitalisations are actually people with other reasons for admission,” NSW health minister Brad Hazzard said.

“Heart attacks, births, falls, none of that stops just because there is Covid. They come into hospital, they have a swab taken and it confirms Covid.

“This shows us its out in the community, but we aren’t necessarily seeing that as the primary reason for all of the admissions.”

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Roadkill Monday, 3 Jan 2022 at 11:08am

“You need to face criminal charges.”

Lmao…what a fucking idiot.

More unhinged by the day is snowflake.

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Blowin Monday, 3 Jan 2022 at 11:09am

You’ve been caught red handed, smoking gun in the act of lying to incite fear you sicko fuck.

You need to go to gaol.

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Roadkill Monday, 3 Jan 2022 at 11:09am
burleigh wrote:

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/up-to-half-of-nsw-co...

I’ll just leave this here for RK, Vic, blind boy and Co.

Why?

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sypkan Monday, 3 Jan 2022 at 11:11am

"There was a distinctive moment, at the start of the Covid-19 pandemic, that neatly encapsulated the mistakes and confusion of Britain’s early efforts to tackle the disease, says Mark Woolhouse. At a No 10 briefing in March 2020, cabinet minister Michael Gove warned the virus did not discriminate. “Everyone is at risk,” he announced.

And nothing could be further from the truth, argues Professor Woolhouse, an expert on infectious diseases at Edinburgh University. “I am afraid Gove’s statement was simply not true,” he says. “In fact, this is a very discriminatory virus. Some people are much more at risk from it than others. People over 75 are an astonishing 10,000 times more at risk than those who are under 15.”

And it was this failure to understand the wide variations in individual responses to Covid-19 that led to Britain’s flawed responses to the disease’s appearance, he argues – errors that included the imposition of a long-lasting, national lockdown. This is a strategy that Woolhouse – one of the country’s leading epidemiologists – describes as morally wrong and highly damaging in his forthcoming book, The Year the World Went Mad: A Scientific Memoir.

“We did serious harm to our children and young adults who were robbed of their education, jobs and normal existence, as well as suffering damage to their future prospects, while they were left to inherit a record-breaking mountain of public debt,” he argues. “All this to protect the NHS from a disease that is a far, far greater threat to the elderly, frail and infirm than to the young and healthy.

“We were mesmerised by the once-in-a-century scale of the emergency and succeeded only in making a crisis even worse. In short, we panicked..."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/02/brita...