COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster
More flat out lies, inciting panic amongst people and hateful divisive bullshit from the MSM. Paid for by tax payers nonetheless.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-04/covid-transmission-risk-unvaccina...
Hey Blowin, where exactly in that article are the flat out lies? I got my father and my brother-in-law, who are both doctors, to read it and they couldn’t find anything false.
The divisiveness is 100% on the unvaxxed. Get the jab, it is safe, rejoin society.
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overthefalls wrote:Hey Blowin, where exactly in that article are the flat out lies? I got my father and my brother-in-law, who are both doctors, to read it and they couldn’t find anything false.
How about this. Apparently no one who’s had the Pfizer has died, been hospitalised or even gotten pretty sick:
"Vaccinated people with Pfizer are covered against death, hospitalisation, and severe illness but they are not completely covered for acquiring symptomatic or asymptomatic infection," Professor McLaws said. “
When Professor McLaws says you are “covered against death, hospitalisation and severe illness”, I don’t think the word “covered” is to be interpreted literally as meaning 100% protected. She simply means that your risk of death, hospitalisation and severe illness is significantly decreased, just like with all other vaccines. After all, anyone who reads the news would know that some vaccinated people have died, been hospitalised or got severely ill, but those cases are extremely rare. As the professor said, it’s not a “silver bullet”; no vaccine is, but it’s the best they can do at this stage and it’s better than nothing.
So here's a thought experiment.
MJ vs coivd vax mandates, which one is safer and healthier for the population?
Surely MJ is the safest drug in the world, its been used for millenia, throughout many civilazations and across all parts of the globe, we know the results of the trials and loooonnnnggg tearm effects without a doubt. Now even though its 'safe' and effective at preventing illness, would it be right to mandate marijuana, and exclude those from society who don't want to participate?
The plus sides: reduce alcoholism and abuse, slow society down a bit so that we stop trying to take over the world by fucking it in the arse, generally its a very very very safe drug -I'm not ware of any acute deaths caused mary jane overdose, ever??
Downsides: Not everyone can handle the drug, some have a bad reaction, some may quit their jobs to lead a more 'spiritual existance'??
Mj = super safe, effective against many ailments, many ways of consuming the herb, reduces #1 cause of death by taking place of alcohol. BUT, individuals may suffer side effects.
MJ, safer than COVID vax?
MJ mandate the right thing to do?
What do you mean by a marijuana mandate? Everyone has to partake in the sacred herb? Or just those who work in certain industries? Or do you mean that it should just be legalised?
As a thought experiement, in mandating (compulsory use -frequency and quantity of use yet to be defined) the intake of either drug: which is safer, which would save more lives, and which would have the greatest benefit to society as a whole -timespan also yet to be undefined?
I want to see if we are able to justify mandating any other drug/herb, starting with the safest one available -MJ- in order to determine if there is a clear answer for right vs wrong in this context.
overthefalls wrote:When Professor McLaws says you are “covered against death, hospitalisation and severe illness”, I don’t think the word “covered” is to be interpreted literally as meaning 100% protected. She simply means that your risk of death, hospitalisation and severe illness is significantly decreased, just like with all other vaccines. After all, anyone who reads the news would know that some vaccinated people have died, been hospitalised or got severely ill, but those cases are extremely rare. As the professor said, it’s not a “silver bullet”; no vaccine is, but it’s the best they can do at this stage and it’s better than nothing.
I’d agree with you that it may be ambiguous if the quote didn’t then say that you were not completely covered for getting infected symptomatic or aysymptomatic. This is a statement saying you can get infected but you won’t die, go to hospital or get very ill. There’s no generous way to interpret the way the professor has specifically delineated between what’s possible and not possible.
I’m not aware of any clinical trials that have proven that cannabis can protect you from any specific diseases. Unfortunately, research in this field is relatively limited because of the drug’s legal status; historically, governments have not been keen on funding research into an illegal substance, which is a pity because the anecdotal evidence suggests that cannabis has enormous potential in terms of its health benefits.
Fair point, Blowin. The professor should choose her words more carefully and be more precise. There is no such thing as a vaccine that has you completely covered.
Newsflash: Reuters Chairman is an investor and board member for Pfizer. Reuters have published over 22,000 articles mentioning Pfizer. Reuters is one of the biggest ‘Fact checking’ organisations in the world. If you’ve ever referred to them as a reliable fact check on the Pfizer debacle, you have been stitched up again.
overthefalls wrote:I’m not aware of any clinical trials that have proven that cannabis can protect you from any specific diseases. Unfortunately, research in this field is relatively limited because of the drug’s legal status; historically, governments have not been keen on funding research into an illegal substance, which is a pity because the anecdotal evidence suggests that cannabis has enormous potential in terms of its health benefits.
Yes. We are both ignorant to the data spread. In a crude sense does this tell us something about the fundamental nature of the research beast? Are profits or health outcomes the predominant force?
just playing here, but, surely the unbridled and vast body of empirical evidence suggests that 'the weed' is safer than anything else, for its ablity to be administered in various ways, doses and using any of thousands of strains -variety, a huge tick for freedom of choice -albeit, mandatory. Limit: its a heavy metal and environmental toxin mop -loves to eat, accumulate and biodegrade heavy metals -can be dangerous for human consumption. Good soil = good quality ;-)
Research -we have to remeber the difference between science and stats. Science is: the application of the scientific method, only; and data interpretation is statistics, arguably not science. In this vain, reasearch has its limits for individul health outcomes -science (looking at redox reactions) can show us the disease prevention potential of non-profitable drugs/herbs. This empowers the individual towards greater health outcomes and freedom of information, isn't this the foundational principle of general health population outcomes -empowerment? The greater the freedom of choice, the more varied the outcome, encouraging self-mediating, and not raw power centralised dicision-making data crunchers. Interesting... Are some of these anti-virals popular in preventing covid symptoms because they are oxidising agents -binding to the virus, reducing its reactive potential??
Who is more dangerous: Bob Marley and the Wailers -most popular band ever, or Pfizer -largest criminal pharmaceutical company ever https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pfizer-settlement-idUSTRE5813XB20090902 ?
Kinda relevant to discusion
Vic Local wrote:Roadkill wrote:Shorty, BD, burleigh, blowin...these guys are losing the plot. More extreme in posts, more conspiracy bs. Generally just a downwards trend.
Sad tbh.The thing is, the cooked mob are never going to get their way. First they tried getting their point across. That didn't work because they have no point. Second they cried about it. That didn't work either. Next up is anger and threats. That's definitely not working either. So come this Saturday, more of the cookers will most likely be taking the next big step. Actual violence.
Nothing but the dregs of western civilisation. Bunch of fucked up adult babies who can't handle being told "no".
This one's just for you and Roadkill. You can sing along if you like. I know you will.
Always thought Jamie Mitcho was a hellman. Respect!!
Hope you both are having a fantastic weekend!
Here’s something to think about.
“ The Fair Work Commission has ruled that a decision by BHP to make COVID-19 vaccinations mandatory at its Mt Arthur coal mine in the New South Wales Hunter Valley was not "lawful and reasonable".
However, the FWC's ruling does not mean vaccine mandates will now be illegal at other workplaces in Australia.”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-04/bhp-vaccine-mandate-mt-arthur-fou...
Ape Anonymous wrote:overthefalls wrote:I’m not aware of any clinical trials that have proven that cannabis can protect you from any specific diseases. Unfortunately, research in this field is relatively limited because of the drug’s legal status; historically, governments have not been keen on funding research into an illegal substance, which is a pity because the anecdotal evidence suggests that cannabis has enormous potential in terms of its health benefits.
Yes. We are both ignorant to the data spread. In a crude sense does this tell us something about the fundamental nature of the research beast? Are profits or health outcomes the predominant force?
just playing here, but, surely the unbridled and vast body of empirical evidence suggests that 'the weed' is safer than anything else, for its ablity to be administered in various ways, doses and using any of thousands of strains -variety, a huge tick for freedom of choice -albeit, mandatory. Limit: its a heavy metal and environmental toxin mop -loves to eat, accumulate and biodegrade heavy metals -can be dangerous for human consumption. Good soil = good quality ;-)
Research -we have to remeber the difference between science and stats. Science is: the application of the scientific method, only; and data interpretation is statistics, arguably not science. In this vain, reasearch has its limits for individul health outcomes -science (looking at redox reactions) can show us the disease prevention potential of non-profitable drugs/herbs. This empowers the individual towards greater health outcomes and freedom of information, isn't this the foundational principle of general health population outcomes -empowerment? The greater the freedom of choice, the more varied the outcome, encouraging self-mediating, and not raw power centralised dicision-making data crunchers. Interesting... Are some of these anti-virals popular in preventing covid symptoms because they are oxidising agents -binding to the virus, reducing its reactive potential??
Who is more dangerous: Bob Marley and the Wailers -most popular band ever, or Pfizer -largest criminal pharmaceutical company ever https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pfizer-settlement-idUSTRE5813XB20090902 ?
Are you suggesting weed as an alternative to an AZ, Pfizer or Moderna covid shot?
Hey VicMoron, how's all your "predictions" of mass violence at the freedom rallies going? Bit like all the other predictions you've put forward on here hey. Never eventuate.
fitzroy-21 wrote:Hey VicMoron, how's all your "predictions" of mass violence at the freedom rallies going? Bit like all the other predictions you've put forward on here hey. Never eventuate.
Happy to be wrong, but the night is still young and the morons are still angry.
Norway Christmas party causes biggest Omicron outbreak outside South Africa. https://www.euronews.com/2021/12/02/covid-19-norway-on-guard-over-omicro.... @shortenism , what do ya reckon of this report seeing as it’s reuters ? Fake news ? https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/australia-omicron-variant-spr...
Are ladbrokes taking bets for xmas lockdowns ?
Did the Bunnings run and had the request for vaccine ID. Being technologically addled in modern consumer electronics and how to scan and sync everything, I came up short and took a walk back to the carpark. That's a first. Looks like it's going to be 'papers please' for me.
The plus side is I get to be alone and get things done without distraction from outside life, got some ripper designs done.
Locally, shire is getting about 5 cases per day and 48 currently infected (perhaps we are a focal point), G-Town getting about 30's per day, state still getting >1000 per day and everyone is out and about. It's like being in a South Park episode, cases aren't even a thing any more, let alone exposure sites, it's surreal how much they've flipped the management from desperate struggle to contain it, to just YOLO. WA has gone and shut border to SA as well as it spreads to SA.
Good luck BD, I'd employ you if I was over there no matter your stance.
WHO does not support Vax Passports as Vax does not reduce the spread of Covid (That Simple!)
Wealthy nations ignore WHO advice to reward VIP Vaxerz & Mandate the poor & ill into the shadows.
Expertly waste all the Vax and spread WR Covid...then blame it on that hesitant, where did he get to?
DIY Vaxemption Breakthru Timeline
(swellnet Crew does not endorse forging Vax docs or Vax violence)
https://ia.acs.org.au/article/2021/the-fake-covid-apps-fooling-authoriti...
2nd Aug SA Sen' Forges Oz Govt Vaxpass
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-04/senator-rex-patrick-forges-covid-...
Govt refuse to reveal if Fed Fakes register as Vaxed on State Tallies...(Meaning Oz% may be well less!)
22nd Sept Tradies flashin' their fake NSW (Trial) Vax apps
11th Oct Freedom Day > 14th Oct NSW full adoption of Vax Pass.
26th Oct NSW > Fraud Penalties are highest in World ($11,000 + $5,500/day fines & or 6 months Jail)
Goes without saying that these fakes can likely tag [ AIR ] Personal Vax Records re: (Serious Penalties!)
13th Oct Vic Vaxpass Breakthru ( 26th Oct - Full Vax Pass Open Day)
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/oct/13/covid-vaccination...
27th Nov Qld Vax Pass Breakthru > (Qld to add Jail time) (17th Dec Full Vax Pass Adoption)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10246059/Covid-19-Australia-Ins...
Online Vaxpass shopcart
Telegram $500 bitcoin / Whatsapp / Photoshop / Insta ($100-$1,000)
https://www.9news.com.au/national/fake-coronavirus-vaccine-passports-for...
Telegram > 60,000 passes upwards...( 1 bloke claims 10 other mates have fake Passes )
https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/australianz/aussies-skirt-rules-with-f...
2020 Nov 20 > Jan 600 > March 1,200 > Sept 10,000 World Market Vax Pass vendors in 28 countries
Absolutely Positively > Mandates are the root cause of outta control online fraud & corruption
Each time Da Prez orders a new Mandate..Telegram corruption swells 12 fold...(Including Fake Vaxes)
Added to WR Vax bullying & Injustice of Health-Work-Access upon minorities... (Vax is Evil personified!)
https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/fake-vaccine-certificate...
Dodgy GPs running off Fake Vax Exemptions.
13th Oct Goldie Fake Medi Doc knocks off 600 fakes @ $150 copy.
https://www.facebook.com/9NewsQueensland/videos/doctor-sells-fake-exempt...
19th Oct 7th Day Adventist Doc comes outta retirement to fleece 700 of his flock
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10105167/Lake-Macquarie-doctor-...
6th Nov Anti Vax/Lockdown Pro Life Vic Doc accused of Vax Exemptions on Google Review (Banned)
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/sunshine-north-gp-probed-ove...
Fake Jabs
7th Nov WA Vaccinator just pretends to Vax. (25 others asked for same nurse...very good at her job!)
https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/practices-warned-to-be-on-aler...
Fed/State Health Exemptions ( Review @ 6 months) Now > CHO overrides GP Certs > 1/10 Legit.
17 Oct- { Permanent Pass } Extremely Rare 156 Oz wide (After Review > 1/3)
Frontline Exemptions naturally number highest in the most Hesitant State.
15th Nov Qld Police - 212 issued (*Religious +*Other) " VIP Religious override is ultra rare!" Top Brass!
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/almost-100-queensla...
15th Nov Qld Health Staff - 904 issued...(Again, reads Senior Union Whistle Blowers...just sign here!)
Qld has been light on Vax Data > unusual to share full open list of all Qld Hospital Vaccination Status.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-20/unvaccinated-queensland-health-wo...
15th Nov WA Police Warn Schoolies to go easy on the Red Frogs & don't knock off Fake Vax Passes.
https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/police-commissioner-chris-d...
1998-2015 Govt exempted Christian Scientists from [ No Jab No Pay ]
Govts are mandating Vax for all attending Mass Congregation at Churches until High 80-90% Vax.
Unvaxed in church, all must SD (cap 20) Confession/Prayer/ Baptism/Wedding/Funerals + (No Choirs)
Critically Skilled exempted Religious Theologists can't preach with any conviction to a converted Flock.
First Nation exemption falls under Human Rights
https://www.amnesty.org.au/covid-19-human-rights-and-vaccination/
Generally Hippocratic Oath is excised by International Medics 'Aspen' re: Cruise Ships / AO (Blameless!)
Universal faceless no fault 'non nationals' rollout Govt's default pressure / coercion / manipulation.
Vaxemption Bribes
19th Nov Oz Pharmacy = $1,000 (Don't sell out! Vax Exemption is easily worth double that & more! )
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/nov/19/anti-vaxxers-usin...
Oz GPs 4x bribes $1,000-$5,000 (VIP Hesitants will sell their waning Grandma to have the last laugh!)
https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/news/antivaxxers-getting-despe...
Exemption Side Effects
19th Nov Qldurr: 'Got pissed & punched the GP in the head a couple of times then decked him!' (Nurse!)
https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/news/gp-clinics-report-surgi...
Vaxemption Infections.
Crew would think this is fertile ground for MSM to serve up on Breaky TV & point Ha! Ha!
To date no Vaxemption infections have been exploited by Pollies or the press.
Could be that ACA quietly smash thru the Skylight, just in case the hesitant is actually sick or some shit!
Sports Bet: "There's potential Grave Fears over potential superspreader events!"
Vic Nov/Dec w/ends [ Freedom Rallies] spiked a potential 39 cases / 2 in Hospital, potentially 3.
Vic Nov/Dec w/ends [ Dan's Vax only Zones ] spiked a combined 6,183 cases / 1,952 in Hospital
Vax Experts & MSM award Dan ultimate Pandemic Powers to flood Vic in an endless sea of Covid.
Vic Local wrote:fitzroy-21 wrote:Hey VicMoron, how's all your "predictions" of mass violence at the freedom rallies going? Bit like all the other predictions you've put forward on here hey. Never eventuate.
Happy to be wrong, but the night is still young and the morons are still angry.
If you were truely happy to be wrong, you wouldn't be so bitter and angry, because you are very rarely right.
https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/120-children-hospitalized-province-sus.... Over the past week, three children have died following their vaccination with the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine in Bac Giang, Hanoi and Binh Phuoc. The cause of death has been determined as "overreaction to the vaccine."
Last week, four workers in Thanh Hoa's Kim Viet Shoe factory died following their Vero Cell Covid-19 vaccination, also due to "overreaction."
No mention from our media sources what’s been happening in Vietnam . https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-australia-updates-covid-19...
A little Sunday sermon ;-)
https://www.fromrome.info/2021/11/11/the-only-solution-to-the-great-reset/
bluediamond wrote:A little Sunday sermon ;-)
https://www.fromrome.info/2021/11/11/the-only-solution-to-the-great-reset/
You protest this weekend?
bluediamond wrote:A little Sunday sermon ;-)
https://www.fromrome.info/2021/11/11/the-only-solution-to-the-great-reset/
There goes a few minutes of my life I’ll never get back. What a load of crap
Supafreak wrote:https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/120-children-hospitalized-province-sus.... Over the past week, three children have died following their vaccination with the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine in Bac Giang, Hanoi and Binh Phuoc. The cause of death has been determined as "overreaction to the vaccine."
Last week, four workers in Thanh Hoa's Kim Viet Shoe factory died following their Vero Cell Covid-19 vaccination, also due to "overreaction."
4 workers died from the vero cell vax. Would need more study…something must be dodgy with the vaccine?
Blessings brother goofyfoot.
goofyfoot wrote:bluediamond wrote:A little Sunday sermon ;-)
https://www.fromrome.info/2021/11/11/the-only-solution-to-the-great-reset/There goes a few minutes of my life I’ll never get back. What a load of crap
BD, is known for posting absolute shit…so no surprise.
THC in weed may be beneficial for some some things but if you have ben hoofing on the bong everyday for the past 40 years like many of us old surf crew the smoke and associated tar has probably taken a toll on the lungs and may make us prime targets for a respiratory disease like covid.
The only great reset is far left apologists like bluediamond pushing the agendas and working as foot soldiers for the extreme right red neck white supremist so called freedom movement. Breathtaking naivety. Btw there is a brand of nut products called bluediamond, seems appropriate judging by the links posted. Over and out.
bluediamond wrote:Blessings brother goofyfoot.
Back at ya my man.
Roadkill wrote:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-05/tga-approves-pfizer-covid-19-vacc...
Injecting kids with a harmful substance to keep adults safe is a new low for mankind, Whoever agrees with this is sick in the head.
It's child abuse.
burley you really have NFI. Go read a book, watch a documentary, try to open whatever is left of your mind to the real world instead of the putrid, perverse fantasy where you current live.
blindboy wrote:burley you really have NFI. Go read a book, watch a documentary, try to open whatever is left of your mind to the real world instead of the putrid, perverse fantasy where you current live.
Put it this way Blindboy, they will inject my kids over my deadbody. If you, Vicmoron and roadkill are scared of a virus, stay inside, wear your face nappy and keep lining up for your boosters, thats not my reality champ.
Dont ever rely on a vaccine put into kids arms to keep YOU safe. that's pathetic and sick.
The fight has only just begun, and will be won at the next election.
Mate, as I said already no fuckin' idea! How about a quick run down on the biological mechanisms you believe will cause harm? Children get sick, children die, they infect those close to them who are at greater risk.....but they don't spread toxic misinformation it takes an adolt to do that.
blindboy wrote:Mate, as I said already no fuckin' idea! How about a quick run down on the biological mechanisms you believe will cause harm? Children get sick, children die, they infect those close to them who are at greater risk.....but they don't spread toxic misinformation it takes an adolt to do that.
The fire lit up inside parents right now will burn and fucking burn right to the next election blindboy, i believe you are about to become the minority with your brainwashed outdated views.
YOU are responsible for your health. if you want to be scared of the invisible boogie man, that is your choice. Keep getting your outdated boosters, wear your mask and stay inside.
They will be putting a jab in my kids over my dead body, my views will never change.
If you agree with jabbing kids to keep pussies like YOU, Roadkill & VicMoron safe you are sick in the head.
Burley just as a single example, if kids in Samoa had been vaccinated, then 61 children under the age of four almost certainly would not have died.
AndyM wrote:Burley just as a single example, if kids in Samoa had been vaccinated, then 61 children under the age of four almost certainly would not have died.
Absolute bullshit AndyM. How the fuck did you even dream this rubbish up? Misinformation at its finest.
AndyM is talking about the measles vax Burleigh.
Well documented.
burleigh. Andy M is correct.
Your anti-vax agenda is next level pathetic and a threat to public health. This is why the country needs no jab no entry policies. They are designed to protect normal people from idiots like you.
Supafreak wrote:
Anybody know if Betty Pezzimenti got a vaccine exemption.
I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..
There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia