COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster

Vic Local wrote:

Oh give it a rest blowin.
There's been plenty of cases of young and middle aged people dying of covid, but you are such a callous bastard, you simply don't care, and are happy to write off their lives as people who were fat / unhealthy etc. What about the double vaccinated nurse the other day who died after getting covid at work? I'm tipping you don't give a flying fuck about her.
You're also happy to ignore long covid, the welfare of all other healthcare workers, and pretty much everyone else but yourself.
We've all watched the health catastrophes in Brazil, USA, UK, India etc etc etc. This would have been Australia's future if shit heads like you got their way. Fair dinkum blowin, you'd be happy to sacrifice thousands upon thousands of your fellow Australian's lives just as long as you weren't told to curtail the tiniest bit of your lifestyle.
Remember when you were sooking about not being able to go on a surfing holiday right when the pandemic was raging in SE Asia? How fucking stupid does that opinion look in hindsight. You are without doubt one of the most selfish and awful people I've ever known.

VicMoron, the nurse that dies was very sad. However did you see her? She was obese. which just proves my point.

Selfish are the people like you and roadkill that want to inject kids to protect old people like you. That is fucking selfish.

Well with your policies Blowin 30 times as many young people would have died. 58,000 extra deaths? No worries eh?

Blindboy, you’ve talked so much dung that I’ve got no idea which dung you are now regurgitating. Past your bed time bloke. Why not get your 18hours of sleep and throw some more dung tomorrow hey?

Gawd....you’re in a rotten mood today blowin….

This thread improved when you were gone.

Remember when we were told that flu definitely wasn’t covid and that the flu in the US , amongst other countries, had just disappeared magically?

Actually, we were told the flu in the US hadn’t disappeared magically, it had disappeared because of all the lockdowns and covid measures. But then you were also told that the US was a hotbed of covid death because the stupid yanks ignored the covid measures and so covid ran rampant!

So surely the flu must be running rampant too then hey? A week into winter and the US must be overrun with flu!
Wait a minute…..Less than 0.1% of US aged care facilities are reporting a single case of the flu.

I’m sure it’s coincidence!

Blowin wrote:

Blindboy, you’ve talked so much dung that I’ve got no idea which dung you are now regurgitating. Past your bed time bloke. Why not get your 18hours of sleep and throw some more dung tomorrow hey?

Seriously blowin, did you miss what happened in the USA with their low vaccination rates and Republican governors refusing to introduce effective public health measures? 787,000 deaths and I will let you know a little secret, they weren't all old and/or fat. Brazil? Did you see what happened there blowin with Bolsanaro sharing your idiotic opinions? 616,000 deaths. UK, with Boris "Freedom Day" Johnson. 147,000 deaths.
What makes you think Australia would be any different if you got your way?

No they weren’t all old and fat. Just 99.99% of them.

US covid statistics….that’s Numberwang!

You’re funny!

Blowin…you’re such a piece of shit to others that aren't in your bubble…you have zero empathy and zero care to protect others.

“Seriously blowin, did you miss what happened in the USA with their low vaccination rates and Republican governors refusing to introduce effective public health measures? 787,000 deaths”

USA…population 330M . Vaccination rate 60%. Nationwide lockdowns, mask mandates and social distancing. Deaths - 787000

Nigeria ….population 206M . Vaccination rate less than 2% . Barely any covid mitigation measures. Deaths -2000.

Nothing to see here hey bloke! I’m sure those US statistics are beyond reproach! Lololol

Any data will do as long as, at first glance, it appears to confirm his existing bias. And when it is pointed out that it doesn't it is straight into insult mode. Yawn, around and around we go!

blindboy wrote:

Any data will do as long as, at first glance, it appears to confirm his existing bias. And when it is pointed out that it doesn't it is straight into insult mode. Yawn, around and around we go!

You haven’t said a factually correct thing all day. You’ve insulted others and now you can’t stop yawning. It’s been a big day of talking dung bloke. Time for you to hit the hay. Your dung flinging will still be there tomorrow Bloke.

BTW….try and pick holes in any of the data I’ve provided. You haven’t pointed out anything of truth.Explain why Nigeria has had 2000 deaths despite its complete lack of vaccination whilst the US has vaccinated the shit out of everything for an extra 785000 desths.

Here’s your answer bloke…..politics, greed, control and corruption.

I’ve said it before….and this is not an insult per se- you’ve been wrong on basically every issue you comment. Sad but true,

What about your earlier inference that people were being “ infected with radicalisation “ by inadvertently picking up a placard strategically placed at a protest. Lolol. That’s up there with warning the kids not to sit in an aisle at the movies because some drug peddler will inject them with marijuana to get them hooked.

Farcical.

The maths is simple mate. Your policies would have resulted in 60,000 Australian deaths.....as opposed to the existing 2000. As for insults you're the undisputed champ there digger.

blindboy wrote:

The maths is simple mate. Your policies would have resulted in 60,000 Australian deaths.....as opposed to the existing 2000. As for insults you're the undisputed champ there digger.

Yeh….I’ve got no idea what you’re talking about and I’m sure you aren’t confident enough to explicitly define the net your casting so you keep harping on with some odd shit.

Wat eva.

5.49pm

Someone mentioned long Covid above, ive asked a few people who have had Covid now if they or anyone they know who has had Covid if they have had any long lasting effects (Long Covid)

So far they all have said they havent had any long term effects or don't know anyone that has, and they know a lot of people who have had Covid, so this long Covid thing seems to be not very common.

BTW. Even my wife's mother who is overweight and got hit hard by Covid was in respirator is 100% back to normal now.

This podcast is 3 hours long . Professor Petrovsky is being interviewed by some bloke Ive never heard of called JP Drake who comes across as a bit of a tool . Petrovsky always speaks his mind and his sarcasm and wit are pretty loose in this interview . I’ve only watched half of it and found some of it questionable . He speaks about previous vaccines he’s been involved with, the other current vaccines, Trump , various Australian government agencies etc , Petrovsky has a bit of a axe to grind with the way his company’s has been treated by this current government. I think some will enjoy listening and agree with him and others will totally right him off . I can’t help but like the guy . How and why he wasn’t backed from the beginning given his track record is a big question that will probably never be answered. https://m.

blindboy wrote:

The maths is simple mate. Your policies would have resulted in 60,000 Australian deaths.....as opposed to the existing 2000.

Pure speculation with way too many variables. But as you have stated above, whatever suits your bias.

Ball park figure, but however you care to adjust it, the basic fact is that without the public health measures which have been argued against incessantly here by a rotating cast of fucking fools, tens of thousands of living Australians would have died.

OK, so you were/are a school teacher and you are saying "simple math". VicMoron provided a worldwide death rate to covid recently of 1.98% and Australia has a current population of around 25M, yes?

My argument is at 5.49pm above. If you have one lay it out

BB, you and the covid crew love crucifying anyone who puts up facts or figures they may not be entirely accurate or from obscure sites etc, and here you are plucking some random number out your ass and call it " simple math".. Hey, but please, carry on with your hypocrisy.

fitzroy-21 wrote:

BB, you and the covid crew love crucifying anyone who puts up facts or figures they may not be entirely accurate or from obscure sites etc, and here you are plucking some random number out your ass and call it " simple math".. Hey, but please, carry on with your hypocrisy.

This is spot on.

S.African official says children sick with COVID-19 have mild infections. https://news.yahoo.com/african-official-says-number-children-103123715.html

Hey blowin, Burleigh, shortenism, Fitz 21.
This is what happens when Covid misinformation becomes widespread. Stupid people die at a much higher rate.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/05/1059828993/data-vac...
Lucky for us, your bullshit is only believed by a tiny minority of Australians. But hey, I'm sure you blokes will find a way to "show" this isn't a problem or is "fake news".

Vic Local wrote:

Hey blowin, Burleigh, shortenism, Fitz 21.
This is what happens when Covid misinformation becomes widespread. Stupid people die at a much higher rate.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/05/1059828993/data-vac...
Lucky for us, your bullshit is only believed by a tiny minority of Australians. But hey, I'm sure you blokes will find a way to "show" this isn't a problem or is "fake news".

TBH…none of those village idiots have any sway with anyone. It’s just screaming bs on a surf forum. No one takes any real notice.

Vic Local wrote:

Hey blowin, Burleigh, shortenism, Fitz 21.
This is what happens when Covid misinformation becomes widespread. Stupid people die at a much higher rate.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/05/1059828993/data-vac...
Lucky for us, your bullshit is only believed by a tiny minority of Australians. But hey, I'm sure you blokes will find a way to "show" this isn't a problem or is "fake news".

It's kind of funny/weird/silly in a way as Trump was actually very pro Covid vaccine and helped push and fast track development of Covid vaccines in the USA.

"and here you are plucking some random number out your ass and call it " simple math"."

Well yeh, my mistake I thought it was simple enough for pretty much anyone to follow. Obviously wrong. Let me explain.

The US failed to implement critical public health measures during the pandemic. Australia did. The population of the US is 334 million, about 13 time the population of Australia at 26 million. The number of deaths in the US was over 800,000 so had Australia followed the same path, we divide 800,000 by 13 to come up with an estimate of 60,000 deaths. Now if that is still too difficult.....sorry I can't help you.

blindboy wrote:

"and here you are plucking some random number out your ass and call it " simple math"."

Well yeh, my mistake I thought it was simple enough for pretty much anyone to follow. Obviously wrong. Let me explain.

The US failed to implement critical public health measures during the pandemic. Australia did. The population of the US is 334 million, about 13 time the population of Australia at 26 million. The number of deaths in the US was over 800,000 so had Australia followed the same path, we divide 800,000 by 13 to come up with an estimate of 60,000 deaths. Now if that is still too difficult.....sorry I can't help you.

It’s not even maths, simple or otherwise.

It’s a completely evidence free extrapolation of the outlying and unrepresentative worst case nation in the world onto Australian population numbers. It’s not maths, it’s not science, it’s some freakish attempt to spread his irrational fear into the population by making shit up to suit his imagination. That’s all it is….made up imagined bullshit.

The US covid statistics are not just wildly politicised and utterly untrustworthy, but they are in no way indicative of any real world outcomes for covid.

Let’s do the “simple maths” and put the Niger covid figures into our Blindboy Covid Computer……Hmmmm. It seems if we’d followed the Niger real world example of no vaccination and no covid mitigation we would have only had 270 deaths within a 28 day positive covid test*.

Pretty damn funny this coming from the bloke who claims others “ Cherry data which suits their bias” . The same bloke who claims to respect science and demand evidence…..only to go and flaunt his utter ignorance of how science and the world works. All whilst ignoring evidence that he is utterly wrong in everything he says.

Irrefutable proof that Australia overreacted and all the fucking fools who got on here and supported authoritarianism should shut their shouty old lips and get back into their basement.

How’s that sound?

“Simple maths” = Maths as performed by simpletons.

*The covid tests used are utterly unreliable and if the results are attained using the wrong method, which they usually are, the outcomes are basically worthless.

"if we’d followed the Niger real world example of no vaccination and no covid mitigation"

Well let me think about that for a nanosecond. Oh yeh, look at the demographics. You're the one always banging on about the young not getting sick.

..Put that together with a low test rate and infrequent autopsies in a less developed medical system and I think that pretty much nails the issue.

That’s your problem right there Bloke- you keep thinking. None of it is correct and it serves you no good.

Niger had 250 deaths out of their entire population. That’s including millions of older people. Infrequent autopsies? Lol. Why do you need an autopsy to prove that the tens of thousands of people who DIDNT DIE didn’t die from covid?

Do your “simple maths” with Cameroon bloke.

Face it fella. You’ve got nothing and you are literally reduced to macabre fantasy about how much doom might have occurred if only. Your irrational fear has now bled past the present and you are casting it over parallel universes.

Seriously bloke….you should go and seek psychological help. You aren’t well. Your grasp on reality is slipping.

I was wondering what you were on about last night with your” simple maths” . To find out that you were literally making stuff up is a pretty shameful blow to your already-negative credibility rating.

Do your “simple maths” using Madagascar as baseline bloke. They’ve got 28M people and 480 covid “deaths”. Less than 2% vaccinated.

No sustainable argument and straight back to insult mode, but ramble on if it makes you feel better.

Happy Monday all! And shit...wake up to find out the bloody vaccines don't work!! TBB was onto this long ago....
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/11/hard_data_shows_the_cov...

blindboy wrote:

No sustainable argument and straight back to insult mode, but ramble on if it makes you feel better.

Huh?

Your notion has been exposed as ridiculous. There’s no two ways about it. You’ve literally cherry picked global data ( based on spurious statistics) and then entered them into your Fantasy Speculation Machine to come up with ….dogshit.

I hate to break it to you bloke but bullshit * bullshit = bullshit squared.

And bullshit squared is what you’ve served up as your opinion. Duly noted bloke. You elect to believe made up bullshit to support your irrational fear.

Why not enter Ethiopia into your Fantasy Speculation Machine?

Population of 115,000,000 people. Vaccination rate of 1.3%. Covid “ deaths” of 6200.

Strange how you believe that Amerikkka is now the global definition of covid outcomes. Why not Ethiopia? They are severely malnourished and the effects of covid should surely be worse but……?

Time for you to admit that the US covid numbers are false, lies, fake news, politicised billshit with zero credibility.

Want to know how cooked the US covid reaction is through politics?

Here’s an example: Back at the start of covid Joe Biden explicitly said that Trump’s border closures to Africa were racist and only existed because Trump hated black and brown people ( his words. Laughable, divisive and awful as they are).

Cut to today and African nations are closed to entry into Amerikkka by Joe Biden……weird hey?

The US is a fucking joke. Nothing that comes out of there is believable including their covid statistics. Anyone who believes them is a fucking fool.

This is the sort of irrational fear mongering you are still pushing. It was fantastic bullshit then and it’s fantastical bullshit Stop yelling fire in a crowded theatre bloke.

Still on the Niger comparison blowin. Now you've chucked in Madagascar.
Geez mate. It's like you think Niger, Madagascar and Australia are similar countries.
If you were looking for countries with a polar opposite demographic, lifestyle, health system, and public service to Australia, Niger and Madagascar would be a good place to start.
Seriously blowin, it drives you nuts how Australia has been governed during covid. Why don't you fuck off to countries you think have done a better job. Maybe Niger, USA, or Madagascar.

So much here .... comparing African countries with say Au is perhaps as valid as comparing the US to Au. Not valid much. We know Covid is less deadly on the young and Sth Africa for eg has 1.6% of its population over 65 yrs so even given poor health care African countries could reasonably expected to do better than western countries with much older/sicker populations. Likewise in the US given their user pays health care, poor health status/outcomes/life expectancy and a natural stupidity in some quarters when it comes to being told by the govt what to do, well expect higher death rates. Overall given our aged population numbers, poor health status for many deaths here would have been exponentially higher if not for govt intervention. What people here are arguing about is the extent of that intervention

interesting,

Europe 1681 deaths per million
https://ncov2019.live/data/europe

Australia 2000 deaths in 25 million population = 80 deaths per million.

The point is not about exact comparisons, which are not possible given all the other factors. The point is that all comparisons with areas with reliable data and similar economics and demographics to Australia, point to the conclusion that the procedures, endlessly argued against here, were highly effective. The reprehensible behaviour of those pursuing such perverted logic, so potentially damaging to public health, is only matched by those willing to publish such crap.

The video radically misrepresents the effectiveness of non-specific antibodies. Natural immunity protects us against many potential infections but it has not "handled every virus since the dawn of man". It certainly did not handle HIV. It regularly fails against other corona viruses that cause the common cold and it regularly fails against influenza. Why are you posting bullshit?

News update for the idiot-anti everything Melbourne mob.
December 17 is still on folks. That's the date Dan gets tried for treason. Location is the Myrtleford Magistrates Court. It's a hell of a step up for that regional magistrate, going from drink driving and petty theft trials to the political crime of the century. Why Myrtleford? If any of you cooked crew can help answer that, I would greatly appreciate it.
The anti-everything mob love to pretend they are pro small business, but if someone asks one of these cooked fuckwits for a vaccine certificate, they've been responding by bombarding the establishment with negative reviews. Not exactly pro-small business then.
Anyway, have a happy day.

Blindboy has gone from saying it’s not factually correct that covid has little effect on the young and healthy to now saying that the reason African nations are virtually unaffected by covid is because their populations are younger and healthy.

Obviously the virtually unaffected younger and healthier nations of Africa do not need to be vaccinated then as they have experienced two years of COVID PANIC without consequence despite being entirely unvaccinated.

This is indisputable proof that young healthy Australians don’t need vaccinations…..it’s just simple maths!

Madagascar is a far better comparison with Australia than virtually anywhere. Same latitude = same levels of vitamin D in population.

Blindboy thinks that Australia should be compared with the US because we watch some of the same TV shows. Then again….he just said that the US had reliable data! Lolol….how freaking deluded can a person be?

bluediamond wrote:

Happy Monday all! And shit...wake up to find out the bloody vaccines don't work!! TBB was onto this long ago....
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/11/hard_data_shows_the_cov...

interesting link, how long until the vaccine mafia find ways to discredit it without actuaally thinking that there might be something in this, we are starting to see it here in oz, sit back and wait for the show to begin

Oh great, another cooked nutter has joined the debate.
New case numbers are through the roof but this recent wave is not nearly as deadly as the 2020 winter wave.
Now call me crazy gromfull, but I reckon the high vaccination rates have a lot to do with that fact. But go ahead champ. Let us know your reason for that trend.

Vic Local wrote:

Oh great, another cooked nutter has joined the debate.
New case numbers are through the roof but this recent wave is not nearly as deadly as the 2020 winter wave.
Now call me crazy gromfull, but I reckon the high vaccination rates have a lot to do with that fact. But go ahead champ. Let us know your reason for that trend.

Oh for sure it’s vaccinations….nothing to do with Dan Andrews seeding aged health care centres full of the nearly dead with his wuFlu. So what if that’s where a massive slice of Australia’s died within 28 days of a covid test fatalities happened ? Does that matter?

Yes. Yes it does.

Trust the science …..and the media. Lol.

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/to-deny-the-lab-leak-covid-theory

Vic Local wrote:

Oh great, another cooked nutter has joined the debate.
New case numbers are through the roof but this recent wave is not nearly as deadly as the 2020 winter wave.
Now call me crazy gromfull, but I reckon the high vaccination rates have a lot to do with that fact. But go ahead champ. Let us know your reason for that trend.

you really are a fool VicMoron. new variants are less deadly, but go on, tell us how well the vaccine is doing. Or better yet, tell us how rich some people are getting.
One jab, two jabs, three jab, four. More giveaways than Oprah.

VIC Local says : “ Now is the perfect time to PANIC!”

Interesting to see the MSM are releasing this:
https://dailytelegraph.co.nz/news/pfizer-document-concedes-that-there-is...

Go for your life VicMoron, Roadkill and blindboy, find a gramma error and write the article off.

I will never inject myself or my kids with this. and if you want to inject kids to keep you "safe" you are SICK in the head.

"you really are a fool VicMoron. new variants are less deadly,"
Really burleigh? The most common variant in Australia is Delta. Show us again exactly your evidence for your ludicrous claim that Delta is less deadly..

VIC Local says : “ Now is the perfect time to PANIC!”
No blowin. I didn't say that at all. You just made that up. I actually pointed out to much lower death rates despite much higher case rates because of the vaccine.

Your anti-vax agenda is so patently false, your sole remaining argument is invent things that simply never happened. Pretty pathetic blowin.