JEFF ROWLEY HELLMAN

Yeah I agree Dave, sure that length and volume is great for getting into the wave, but once he was bottom turning it looked like it was bouncing around quite a lot and not very functional.

craig ,

thats just the reality of the wave . exposed .
he did alright considering .
Sid , you clearly don't know your waves . atleast one of the less than split second vid's barely shows any relevance to anywhere . but one is definietly not where you say . ie Brute in that case is telling the truth .
as for PK , the only vids' i know that have reached a select audience were cold & 2cold .
men in black rubber was t-ray and the only copy i got is unplayable on any laptop or media player I've tried. although it did get played reasonably often in their shop .
Shaun , we agree usually . but not on this . no reason justify's breaking your own moral code . ( well one you've insinuated before ) . ie in the past you've discouraged anything that encourages a thread to live longer than it should .
Stu , why change your view now . are you guys now paying for data storage . you should of realised posting the images would have turned into a shit fight .
PS . please remove an area ( that would of pumped last week ) from your global forecasts .. as already pleaded .
end rant .

Well southy I had to be to hypocrite to point out others hypocrisy's, and as you know i do like to get my point across, if I could just learn to do it with out the cricket bat .................

hey shaun..it Maurice,not Morris......still got the vinyl....

HaHa.....It's not always all about you Maurice....:-))

ok Morris,just correcting a spelling mistake.,and my wife still wonders how they got the song so right......but coming from you fair enough.....big M

Pretty entertaining stink gents.

But a headsup from the real world. No-one gives a fuck about down south except you blokes.

the inertia are calling jeffs session at the Victorian bombie ' australian mavericks'

I guess that makes Jeff Rowley our own Jeff Clark.

freeride76 wrote:

Pretty entertaining stink gents.

But a headsup from the real world. No-one gives a fuck about down south except you blokes.

But we're not in the real world are we. :-)

haha, true story.

sounds like a few hot heads getting pretty heated up though.........that can easily translate to action when someone walks into the cross hairs.

Jeff Clark went about his business quietly for years. No correlation there.

No he didn't. Have you seen Riding Giants? Clark tried for years to get people to surf there. In the end he brought in people he didn't even know like Richard Schmidt and Vince Collier from Santa Cruz. Then he cashed in heavily with a Mavericks cafe and Jeff Clark Surfboards (born at Mavericks) and a Mavericks contest (with him as director). He 'went about his business' all right.

Rowley is a mute in comparison.

Yeah I think ttbb is right, I had heard that Clark was not the only one surfing it and nor was he the first, but as usual the first one to turn up with a photographer goes down in surfing history as a pioneer.

I don't even think mavericks and whatever we're calling it this time are comparable, if you are it's a mushburger compared to mavricks, having said that would not like to be caught in side at either.

I'm fu##ed if I know why a handful of you carry on like spoiled brats about that neck of the woods. You'd think no one has ever been there and unless you live there you can keep on driving!
It's a section of coast that's been know about for bloody years. It's no friggin secret. I'd perhaps understand a bit of heated opinion if Jeff wanted to run a contest, but that's not the case here.

I stand corrected then.

Ben we were talking a about jc and mavericks.
Not he who l cannot mention or where I can't say.
Chill dude.
It must be true red you heard it on the internet, reliable source too.

Udo , the inertia also actually have a link to his Sept 2011 debacle as " 500ft Australian record " .
then as per that persons claims 50ft . more like 5 metres .

Anyone got a link to the footage of the two stroke at Jaws?

The footage of that Bombie is awesome how clean is it for the size

Dunno about the two stroke wave yocal, but here's the one where he only takes about 4 strokes.

you could call that 2 strokes, 2 with each arm, it's all in the interpretation isn't it, that's why surfing will never be as main stream as some people want.

on one of the morning shows ( could have been carl) when they showed carlos burl at Portugal catching the biggest wave ever he said that he beat garret macs wave from the year before by a half a meter. HaHa what hope has surfing got in the mainstream.

here it is here,

I usually take about 10 myself

Is that five each arm morris, or ten?

5 from each of the twin sisters who live next door

You'd think that after being born in 1939, one of them would have married 'eh?

God bless them;)

Morris that you tube link is his warm down routine after a surf

"Yeah I agree Dave, sure that length and volume is great for getting into the wave, but once he was bottom turning it looked like it was bouncing around quite a lot and not very functional."

Absolutely - footage clearly shows the board was not right for surfing the wave....slo mo

Although I couldn't say for sure, I assume Jeff's board wasn't made for Australia but for the upcoming Hawaiian winter. This session was most likely a test run - a warm up of sorts.

The real board evaluation would best be done after a legitimate Jaws session.

Just watched the Jaws wave with all the land based nonsense about the bloke where it really counts"In the water" you can't argue the fact that was pretty impressive.

'Although I couldn't say for sure, I assume Jeff's board wasn't made for Australia but for the upcoming Hawaiian winter. This session was most likely a test run - a warm up of sorts.'

I may be unnecessarily complicating things here, but why not just ask him?

redneck wrote:

Morris that you tube link is his warm down routine after a surf

Actually it's a great warm up if the waves are pumping, a bit of relief to calm one down , if it's perfect and barreling you need to calm and collected

Or Mr. Keating.

For all the wank over the much hyped wave at Jaws there were 20 guys who got much bigger longer waves than he who can,t be named, what is all the fuss about? enough blowing smoke up his arse his ego doesn,t need it and nor does anybody else.

Hey fellas. I kinda got hooked on this thread on page 1, so thought I might sign up and add my 2c.

I have a shop FULL of Pat Rawson's finest, including a fist full of proper big wage guns over 9' length. There was some discussion over dimensions, so I thought I'd add some of the typical sizes Pat's shaping for these boards...

The narrowest 9'6 gun I have is 20-1/8" wide, and 3-3/16" thick. This goes up to 21-1/4" x 3-1/4". Upwards to 10'2, thickness is 20-3/4" x 3-1/4".

My personal 10'2 gun is 20" wide and 3-1/4" thick.

On another topic listed here, personally, I run all my guns as quads. The shop boards are all set up as 3+2 though.

(Hey Camel, I'll give you a buzz soon)

I'm new on this forum, but will have a crack at uploading a couple of pics of a cool resin tint 10'2 from stock...

Here's my 2 cents worth, with a shop full of boards in the ten foot range in Queensland, I reckon you'll go broke, nice piece of spam.
So this is what big wave surfing has come too, ten foot computer shaped pop outs.
You may have thought it was dangerous surfing with jet skis buzzing around, just wait until you have a few wallies on their big kahuna models fluffing around on a big day with panic in their eyes.

(Camel, sorry I haven't called you, but i don't have your number and don't know you. I'm just mentioning your name on this thread to give myself some credibility)

Hi Shaun. Firstly, let me just say thanks for your concern over my financial position.

Spam? No... Joining a conversation to discuss board dimensions, and maybe share my thoughts and opinions on where big wave board design is headed? Yep, well that's what I thought anyway.

Just a note on computerized pop-outs and ghost shapers. Unlike 98% of boards from 'overseas shapers or companies', all our boards are shaped (with an actual planer, would you believe! - and by the actual shaper named on the logo) and glassed where stated. In this case, on the North Shore. And that's enough on that, I don't want to be accused of spamming a thread or anything :)

Maybe 'natural selection' will sort out the wallies out there.

As for Camel, we've been talking for a while now about doing some boards. Just thought I'd show some forum etiquette (and common courtesy) and say hello.

Cheers, Troy.

superflyte, thanks for posting the big board dimensions could you post some rocker pics

where are you and your shop located ?
EDIT; currumbin, love that famous tommy c snap pic at pipe

@Shaun and Superflyte,

It can be a fuzzy line deciding what is and what isn't spam. I figure that as long as info is in context then it ain't spam, and that would apply to dims and fin configs in a thread about big wave boards.

Stu, I'm sure Shaun was just taking the piss out of superfly, so don't feel to badly mate, though you could have just posted the dims and photos and not mentioned that you sell them.

(hey Kelly I'll give you a buzz soon)

I don't think your doing camel any favours by mentioning him in association with your boards as you are not the only one.:-)

Morris, just setting the record straight so everyone knows where they stand.

(Hey Barack I'll give you a buzz soon)

hold the lines ! rawson surfboards are giving away 5 brand new guns and a holiday surfing at the secret surfbreak outside critterbeasts ! also joining you will be tom carroll who will help u test the new boards at this incredible wave in the middle of the pacific ocean and then mark visser will jump out of a plane to tow in also . then jeff rowley will paddle out alone to ride with you. first five people to call me win the prize ! if the lines are busy thats just cos im having a quik chat with president susilo bambang,wont be long...

Didn't Bambang bounce your arse right out of indonesia?

who cares . that was an adventure the last time i was in indo, but no not president bambang who helped me get to australia after a long stint in java,lombok,sumbawa . think it was about 2004 or 05 , forget. actually got sick of indo and missed australia so i returned. yeah there is rumours of course about wat happened and people claim to know the story .anyway , tommy carroll , mark visser and jeff rowley are inspirational guys ,im not disrespecting them by talking about them on this forum. if you have a look at the rawson surfboards website there is some good looking surfboards and information . even if a shaper uses hi tech tools to shape theres nothing wrong with that

Hey Udo, here you go. I

Maybe these are the 5 new guns we're giving away, because we can't sell these - remember, I live in Queensland. lol Oh yeah, and that surf trip. Actually it's 2x economy tickets plus bus transfers to Trigg Beach, Perth, WA. Summer travel only - haha. Fill ya boots.

Cheers boys.

Nice.
What's the fin config?

And serious question. They obviously aren't going to get used in QLD where blokes pull out the jetski every time it's over three foot at Kirra.

So, who is going to buy them?

I mite when I travel down into the forbidden locals only lands of South WA
I will be surfing the Bombie with my paddle in computer made Rawson.
Don't under estimate the WellHellman?
Wheres ya shop Superflyte,
Gis a look at those bad babies.
Hell much..?
Over and out.
HellyWelly

Hellfuck
Hellyou
Helluppity
Hellish

Hey caml you were saying on another thread about thickness/lightness of 9'6"-10'ft boards & breakability. At 3 1/4" inches do you think the Rawsons could take the punishment of the waves you like to surf? You were talking closer to 4" inches? Or are these(Rawsons) warm water guns so don't need the buoyancy of guns for Southern Ocean cold water?

Wrong way around I think Yorkes, if you could tell the difference.

Nah your right reecen that's why I was asking someone who would know. Thanks for setting me straight. That's what forums are all about right?

i think you'll find that the biggest / most important question that should be asked is how are they glassed ??? 3x 6 oz or 3x 4 oz top or bottom .....???