Do you like or hate Donald Trump, and why?
blindboy, that link above should be compulsory reading for anyone who is interested in the facts and truth about Trump. For the rest, it's just Fake News.
Trump
Trumpet
Trumpeter.
Its in his name
He's a Trumpet blower.
He loves to blow his own trumpet and tell us constantly how fucking fantastic he is.
I don't hate him .....hate.....I think the right have that one covered.
The more I read and the further along this presidency travels, the more I dis like him.
What I do find likeable is how consistently he proves his entertainment value and reassures the world that he is still a fuckwit.
Addressing the UN General Assembly, President Trump asserts that his administration ‘has accomplished more than almost any administration in the history of our country’. The delegates burst into laughter. ‘So true,’ he responds, and they laugh even louder. (The Twittersphere immediately produces a Trump tweet from 2014: ‘We need a President who isn’t a laughing stock to the entire World. We need a truly great leader, a genius at strategy and winning. Respect!’)
I Focus
Focus.....I'm not whining about previous administrations.
I'm pointing out the double standard continually being applied by his critics.
You are all just so upset and I'm only trying to help.
Clinton was protected by the same media that is trying to lynch Trump.
Without Andrew you probably wouldn't have Donald...
https://m.
"Focus.....I'm not whining about previous administrations."
Hhmmm actually you are, as for Trumps critics pretty even all sides of the political spectrum who are horrified by his language and behavior most of which thought the same of Clinton.
And the clip.........the left in the US same as Venezuela.........end of credibility.
Blob you really should read the post before responding to it. Comprehension today 0/100.
Interesting read
The real reason the Left hate Donald Trump
I like this bit
"For now, though, the left’s only issue is “We hate Trump.” This is an instructive hatred, because what the left hates about Donald Trump is precisely what it hates about America. The implications are important, and painful.
Not that every leftist hates America. But the leftists I know do hate Mr. Trump’s vulgarity, his unwillingness to walk away from a fight, his bluntness, his certainty that America is exceptional, his mistrust of intellectuals, his love of simple ideas that work, and his refusal to believe that men and women are interchangeable. Worst of all, he has no ideology except getting the job done. His goals are to do the task before him, not be pushed around, and otherwise to enjoy life. In short, he is a typical American — except exaggerated, because he has no constraints to cramp his style except the ones he himself invents."
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/wall-street-journal/the-real-r...
@Indo, unless you're a subscriber, it's impossible to read the article.
Perhaps you could give a summary?
Although I did have a chuckle at the line "In short, he is a typical American — except exaggerated....".
Now I get it Indo, you are a subscriber to the Murdoch press.
Zinger !
It worked yesterday there was no Pay Wall but i also can't read it now.
Ha ha sorry to disappoint but I'm too tight to subscribe to any news paper, i must be clicking on too many Trump articles lately from here or something as it popped up in my social media.
I will see if i can read out through the link i read it through.
Nah damn thing doesn't work there now either
Blindboy
Just answer the question
Blob, I have already answered your question several times with declining complexity at each attempt. If you haven't got it by now I can't help. Somethings cannot be addressed in words of one syllable.
Westofthelake
You should get this but you don't.
A populist is laughed by fat cat globalist elites.
That isn't wrong or bad.
This only helps his standing with his supporters.
....low income Americans who don't vote green.
Trumps popularity is rising.
He is now more popular than Obama was at the same point in his presidency.
This is despite the tsunami of fertiliser directed straight at him.
.....Obama and the UN were a perfect match though.
Blindboy
You have not answerd the simplest question.
You have dodged, weaved and hidden......refused to answer in a hundred sentences .....when one tiny sentence is all it would have taken.
Blob were you ever considered a slow learner at school because your absolute inability to comprehend anything beyond yes/no, up/down, black/white is really very embarrassing.
I would hazard a guess that Blob would have done pretty well at school. I think that in this forum he's heavily outnumbered by a bunch of left wing pseudo intellectuals.
"leftwing pseudointellectuals" surely a tautology..
Whereas right wing intellectual is a contradiction.
Touché.
oxymoron the term you were looking for ,if you were better educated... :)
Blindboy
Your arch attempts at condescension are what is embarrassing
You don't need to answer yes or no
You just need to answer the question.
Do you personally think it justifiable, morally, to abort a baby at 8 1/2 months gestation for reasons of convenience, and to then market the body parts?.
So, a mass of 7,000 immigrants are heading across Mexico to the US border.
400,000 have crossed the border this year.
Democrats call them refugees, and are for open slather, open borders.
Republicans are for control of the border.
Simple choice here folks.
Leftists are wrong about everything because they have lost their minds.
Blob, re abortion, Slayer hears ya!
Blob the answer is no. I have a question for you, just the dste please, don't try to avoid the issue. Just the date. When did you stop beating your wife?
"Leftists are wrong about everything because they have lost their minds."
I don't think they are wrong about everything and i think those on the right are wrong about just as much all areas of politics are.
I think those on the left are just a little bit idealistic and often want their cake and eat it too.
For instance in the case you mention, its more likely they are worried about the human rights of these people crossing the border and might say well we can take 400,000 no problem.
But then don't consider the 400,000 behind them and other issues.
It's strange because sometimes they can't look at the bigger picture but then in other areas like Climate change than can look much further into the future, where the right can not.
No ones perfect i guess.
Indo-dreaming
What are the Left right about?
The left is right that the right is wrong.
or.... Wrong is right and right is left.
Just off the top of my head, things like human rights, women rights etc
It's just they bang on about these things too much sometimes especially the identity politics thing LGBTQVXYZ
Climate change is an important issue, it's silly for the right to just go against it because the left are into it. (although I'm not 100% convinced but hey it's not going to hurt us caring for the environment anyway)
I bang on about certain issues on here and might come across quite right wing at times to the lefty's, and yes I'm an Andrew Bolt and Steve Price fan and i even subscribe to the Australian (thats a joke) but i have no problem with the paper.
But really i think each party has good views/ideas/policy and crappy views/ideas/policy.
Personally I've just given up even voting, i just get my name ticked off and put the thing in the ballot box, because i like some things about liberals, social issues mostly and then labor well i think they are more likely to look after me, as an every day average Aussie as an average to low earner.
blob, I found something especially for you;
When I was a little girl, everything in the world fell into either of these two categories: wrong or right. Black or white. Now that I am an adult, I have put childish things aside and now I know that some things fall into wrong and some things fall into right. Some things are categorized as black and some things are categorized as white. But most things in the world aren't either! Most things in the world aren't black, aren't white, aren't wrong, aren't right, but most of everything is just different. And now I know that there's nothing wrong with different, and that we can let things be different, we don't have to try and make them black or white, we can just let them be grey. And when I was a child, I thought that God was the God who only saw black and white. Now that I am no longer a child, I can see, that God is the God who can see the black and the white and the grey, too, and He dances on the grey! Grey is okay.
Normally thing are exactly as they seem, so yes highly likely just a crazy right wing dude or group, but odds on it being a crazy left wing person or group is also not far fetched.
In the world of conspiracy theories this one is believable especially seeing the hate the left have for Trump.
Blob , Republicans are nationalist under Trump , and as for the refugees ...do you think shooting them or just disposing of them is the solution....what would Jesus say Blob?
Westofthelake those colourful kidz songs of our youth..when played backwards sound like...
*Red brown yellow black & white...preachers love the little children of the world.
*A mellting pot, stirrin' for a 100 years or more to lock out Chai Latte coloured people offshore.
tbb, I had no idea what you were talking about but google sorted me out.
My parents tried to send me to Sunday School at around 8 years old, but it didn't last long as I thought it was all a bit.......fictional. Pretty sure my parents just wanted to get some kid free time on a Sunday.
ID mainstream media (who are not left they are businesses) certainly criticise Trumps language and behavior, the word hate has been weaponised by his supporters as a label to throw at any one who dare criticise Trump.
Lets face it Trump and his cronies serve up truck loads of material every day.
The pipe bombing thing is really weird how Trump supporters are claiming any thing but them being responsible.
Factorum all I see in that article are two sides taking the higher moral ground and denouncing any chance that it was their side who did something wrong.
For me the best thing is to wait for the truth to emerge before pointing fingers, or pointing at people pointing fingers for that matter. This is the source of the division IMO.
Ifocus
Like i said above it's either exactly as it may seem like most things are.
Either:
A crazy Trump supporter that isn't too smart that is only doing more damage to Trump and his party than anything.
Or a crazy anti Trump person trying to further discredit Trump and his party.
Which is really not that far fetched.
Like Yocal said lets just wait and see before pointing fingers.
"....For me the best thing is to wait for the truth to emerge before pointing fingers, or pointing at people pointing fingers for that matter. This is the source of the division IMO."
There's a radical thought... very 1990s ...
Either way, chances are it's an overzealous looney trump supporter. The only surprising thing - considering how the media and their associates have been behaving - is that it's taken so long for something to happen...
"...pointing at people pointing fingers.."
C'mon Yocal, that's called analysis.
maybe I am better to describe it as blaming then rather than pointing the finger. ie: where proper analysis of all the facts is excluded
Given the number of bombs mailed its not one person.
Who's up for a strawberry?
Such a shit-stirrer Facto, you're always needling someone.
I’m going full conspiracy nut and calling that both the pipe bombs and the thousands of migrants marching North towards the USA are sponsored plots designed to destabilise Trump .
Actually, that’s a bit extreme . What king of weirdo would threaten to further destabilise a tenuous political situation and toy with people’s lives in order to reinforce their position in a critical election ?....https://www.smh.com.au/national/unprincipled-and-craven-morrison-s-israe...
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/31/opinion/sunday/nixons-vietnam-treache...
That NYT piece is a few years old Blowin. Farrell's biography of Nixon has been published and is well worth a read. He wasn't always a dick!
I’ve got no idea about him , BB.
Just a slight memory and the power of google to bolster my highly suspect opinion.
What do you think of the theory that the bombs and marches are a set up ?
Blowing you need to throw in Soros for any credible conspiracy nut comments.
Thanks for the Nixon article hadn't seen that before Vietnam was such a mess starting with Kennedy US lost 50,000 plus damaged many more of their own not to mention Vietnam lives.
So another 20,000 died after Nixon killed the peace process.
Struggle to get my head around young Aussies being forced to go and kill Vietnamese in their homeland.
You’d have assumed that Australia would never get sucked into another unjustified slaughter and then comes Iraq/ Afghanistan/ wherever.
People should have been hung for those little ventures.
I don’t know much at all about Soros. Australian politics bores me and US politics is bored + Temazepam.
I was imagining Hillary crafting the bombs in her multimillion dollar basement .
I am curious if you guys like DonaldTrump, or do you hate him?