Australia - you're standing in it
old-dog wrote:Funny how it's called the Murray mouth, should be called the Murray A-hole.
Haha. It surely is the bottom.
Belt Bay is full at the moment.
http://lakeeyreyc.com/Status/latest.html#bottom
seeds wrote:Gravity I’d suppose. I’m just geeing up basesix!
I’ve always been impressed by it. As the Kati Thanda catchment. Want to see that full one day.
The Murray Darling system is behind the Great Dividing Range.. it doesn’t cross the range, it goes around behind it.
More geographical trivia.
Where does the Great Diving Range start and finish? AW
seeds wrote:Supafreak wrote:Littlefeet bleats about farmers not happy with renewables on their land. It seems some are happy to take the money though and will benefit from working with the government and energy companies. Considering how droughts, fire & floods can wipe out crops and livestock, a backup income will take some of the pressure off . https://reneweconomy.com.au/farmers-double-the-value-of-back-paddocks-wi...
Sounds good for everyone Supa. Coke bottle glasses is no doubt beholden (to someone). Differing opinions in the country. As everywhere. Farming is a boom to bust type of game year to year. Who can blame anyone for this. Very smart business decision.
We all benefit too, just as we do from their produce.
lol. there’s no farmers on the MP. Just ex traders with bored wives, a Charles Massey book and a part time “farm” manager.
Oh and a private schoolmate with a deal.
https://www.roksolid.au/results
Up the Cape I’d guess. There’s something I heard years ago involving Tim McCartney Snape explaining why these ancient fish reside there.
I’m going to search for it
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bonza wrote:seeds wrote:Supafreak wrote:Littlefeet bleats about farmers not happy with renewables on their land. It seems some are happy to take the money though and will benefit from working with the government and energy companies. Considering how droughts, fire & floods can wipe out crops and livestock, a backup income will take some of the pressure off . https://reneweconomy.com.au/farmers-double-the-value-of-back-paddocks-wi...
Sounds good for everyone Supa. Coke bottle glasses is no doubt beholden (to someone). Differing opinions in the country. As everywhere. Farming is a boom to bust type of game year to year. Who can blame anyone for this. Very smart business decision.
We all benefit too, just as we do from their produce.lol. there’s no farmers on the MP. Just ex traders with bored wives, a Charles Massey book and a part time “farm” manager.
Oh and a private schoolmate with a deal.
https://www.roksolid.au/results
Different places I guess
GuySmiley wrote:Supafreak wrote:Littlefeet bleats about farmers not happy with renewables on their land. It seems some are happy to take the money though and will benefit from working with the government and energy companies. Considering how droughts, fire & floods can wipe out crops and livestock, a backup income will take some of the pressure off . https://reneweconomy.com.au/farmers-double-the-value-of-back-paddocks-wi...
A Little Feat classic
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Great share Guy, if you added a trumpet it'd be like something off Miles Davis' Panthalassa.
AlfredWallace wrote:seeds wrote:Gravity I’d suppose. I’m just geeing up basesix!
I’ve always been impressed by it. As the Kati Thanda catchment. Want to see that full one day.The Murray Darling system is behind the Great Dividing Range.. it doesn’t cross the range, it goes around behind it.
More geographical trivia.
Where does the Great Diving Range start and finish? AW
Some say it starts at Dauan Island in the Torres Strait, runs the entire length of the eastern coastline before finally fading into the Wimmera plains as rolling hills west of the Grampians region.
The longest land-based mountain chain in the world within a single country.
Noice!
AndyM wrote:AlfredWallace wrote:seeds wrote:Gravity I’d suppose. I’m just geeing up basesix!
I’ve always been impressed by it. As the Kati Thanda catchment. Want to see that full one day.The Murray Darling system is behind the Great Dividing Range.. it doesn’t cross the range, it goes around behind it.
More geographical trivia.
Where does the Great Diving Range start and finish? AW
Some say it starts at Dauan Island in the Torres Strait, runs the entire length of the eastern coastline before finally fading into the Wimmera plains as rolling hills west of the Grampians region.
The longest land-based mountain chain in the world within a single country.
Noice!
AndyM. Hi
Spot on..
It starts or ends (whichever way you perceive it) in Casterton in Western Victoria and goes all the way to Dauan Island which is 7km from mainland New Guinea.
It ends on Dauan Island with a beautiful topographical relief, almost like an A-frame tent,
Mt. Cornwallis .
As we know, New Guinea to mainland Australia to Tasmania is all on the same tectonic plate,
In the last Ice Age, you could’ve walked from Port Moresby to Hobart, that’d be a great walk.
Good stuff. AW
Mr High Profile Toowoomba sure likes em passed out. Allegedly.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/article/2024/jul/04/bruce-leh...
Hello AW
In Bali , popping up on the Legian beach breaks .
Gosh , the Australians LOVE Bali and the Balinese love us .
Lucky holiday flights are not up 4 discussion on this site , cancel them and Bali dies .
I love Platypuses !
Every major river system that supports them , should have a nice little Dam/Lake supporting them ie , not for human use .
I haven't forgotten how perilous our Water supplies were in the Last Drought .
Eildon was empty and probably caused an mini extinction event for the Puss's , Fish and frogs !
These Dams can be used , when in drought , to keep these rivers flowing .
Gums are not endangered , if so , plant some somewhere else .
Melbourne has doubled in size , since the last big dam was built .
Our priority , biologically speaking , is to our own species .
Melbourne is NOT drought proof , when a bad ONE hits , we and our Economy will be cactus .
Flannery gave the response , " there will be no rain to fill a new dam ffs " !!!
Dams are viewed by Greenies like Nuclear and Fossils Fuels .
ie , let's do EVERYTHING to avoid them , no matter what the COST .
Money does not grow on trees , education , healthcare , social security / safety net , policing , military , ALL suffer as we spend tonnes of Money on things like a Desal Plant , when panicking ( I think we should have a couple built NOW , when we don't need them and we can get a reasonable Deal ) .
Todays society is getting soft , things are too easy , too many many people have Forgotten how Bad things can get .
We have a Millions of people to Look after first , people all over the world realise that , we come first .
In Australia , we can't have Cheap Electricity OR Shore Up our Water supply's !
We are ALL too fn Soft imho !
indo-dreaming wrote:There is rarely solutions only ever trade offs.
No matter the energy source, there is big upsides and big downsides to each one..
Its about balancing the upsides & downsides.
But we dont have too much choice when it comes to hydro we just dont have the water supply that a country like Brazil has to have to much of it.
Rarely that I agree with indo on a political topic (no offence) but he's on the money when it comes to weighing the impacts of any infrastructure/energy option. The reality is pumped hydro makes so much sense in Australia. We have so much wind and solar availability but it will need to be managed through energy storage which is essentially what PHES is. You cannot have vast amounts of wind and solar without some decent energy storage capacity. The economics and environmental impacts of PHES stacks up massively relative to other energy storage options (e.g. batteries, hydrogen in it's current form). We also have a huge amount of greenfield hilly terrain on the East Coast here which is ideal for PHES. The bonus is we don't have to wait decades for unproven SMR technology to develop like duttons half baked nuclear plans either.
Also it's worth noting that all the big hydro projects being discussed is pumped hydro due to aforementioned low rainfall which we have on the East coast. Very different to the big conventional hydros in alpine terrain/major river systems in other continents. Although there are a lot of pumped hydros elsewhere too to manage their renewable energy fluctuations.
If ya have a go ya get a go.
(been liking this guy since Jelly first posted him)
Im sure many have seen that list of 7 countries that are close or even 100% renewable energy, a list of real odd countries.
I was curious and dug deeper and as expected two were 100% hydro energy and many had a bulk of hydro energy, but i was suprised that a few like Ethiopia of all places made the list and are mostly reliant on biofuels.
Biofuels are something you dont hear much about in Australia for main grid energy but could be another realstic way to provide a safety net to wind and solar.
Although i think the problem is it also has environmental issues Palm oil is the classic example and also takes away from land used for edible crops.
Pumped hydro is feasible and it doesn't need a river to dam.
https://genexpower.com.au/250mw-kidston-pumped-storage-hydro-project/
There's a pumped hydro project in Bendeela near Kangaroo Valley. Been there since the 70s, outputs up to 240 MW, or so says Wikipedia.
I've ridden mtbs near there a few times and both the pondages and pipes aren't that much of a blight, though locals may have different thoughts.
Lately, pumped hydro has come up a bit when talking about the Illawarra Renewable Energy Zone and it appears to make sense. The escarpment provides a sharp change in elevation - up to 900m - and in the south there's easy access to Lake Illawarra and lots of flat land for pondage - no need to build a dam. The land over the top of the escarpment is owned, or at least maintained, by Sydney Water, no-one lives there, so there would be no disturbances or compulsory buybacks.
If Twiggy's green hydro scheme goes ahead here then I can see it being fed by pumped hydro.
In some cases pumped hydro makes perfect sense, particularly using mine sites that have been shut down, there is infrastructure on site, no land use issues, cheaper to build and maintain, basically all of the road blocks put up to stop renewables have already been removed. They may be good sites for green hydrogen as well, even the coalition was all for hydrogen until recently, so hopefully it continues to get the investment to bring it on line.
It's interesting that Toyota is making a transition to hydrogen vehicles rather than concentrating solely on electric so clearly hydrogen fuel isn't just the ideological whim of some eccentric billionaire, although Dutton, Hanson and Ashby would have us believe otherwise
The "I can't believe it's not politics" thread.