Why is that surfcam offline?
Thanks for adding an Alex bluff cam. No more zooming in on the Alex Headland to check it!
I've noticed it hasn't been added to the surfcams list on the main menu and can only be accessed from the nearby cams section when looking at another cam.
I'm trying to add it to my multi-cam but can't without it being on the list.
Just checking if this is an oversight or is already on the to-do list?
Cheers
Any word on when the Lorne and 13th Beach web cams will be back online?
Cheers
Why not contact local lad VicLocal to pick up from JayCar in Geelong & deliver to Lorne Ben, if he refuses threaten to ban him from the forums. Haha. He sounds like a community minded citizen. What do say VL?
Bit of a Catch 22 there GS - VL knows he can't afford to take off more than a few mins of his day from educating us on the forums, but if he doesn't give up a slice of his valuable teaching time, Ben will ban him. Indeed a complex and onerous proposition for VL to consider.
VL reply coming shortly - “so here’s the thing you blokes’…”
Just got boosted and waiting my 15 mins in north geelong. Happy to drop by specialty electric store in geelong and head to Lorne.
Good one Viclocal that’s the spirit well done
Mmmm, he started his SN career running an errand for a desperate Ben but quickly progressed to Vicco reporter before moving up to ... ?
Just my attempt of humour in an otherwise dull onshore day
GuySmiley wrote:Good one Viclocal that’s the spirit well done
Mmmm, he started his SN career running an errand for a desperate Ben but quickly progressed to Vicco reporter before moving up to ... ?
Just my attempt of humour in an otherwise dull onshore day
About 15 years ago I stepped in to replace the regular Surf Coast reporter. It was a week on northerly winds and mid size swell. I kept saying PI and Mornington were better value for Melbourne surfers. Those reporters wised up and started saying Surf Coast reefs would be good value.
Ahh good times.
Nice VL, exactly as I’d play it. Pick up the batteries?
Any idea when we’re getting the Avoca cam back online? it’s been ages now guys
awesome thanks mate looks great!
except it’s not planning anymore?
ahh sweet thanks mate.. can i request that it stops on the current position when you do get it panning? it never used to, it would pan right past this current shot.. it’s a great part of the beach
thermalben wrote:Haven't quite set that up yet.. in the next day or so
hey mate any update on the panning? i love the current position it’s in but wanna see the rest of the beach too.. yeww
Wollongong has been down for a week or so now.
I am just checking in to see when you think it'll be coming back online?
Margaret River has been down for a week or so now.
I am just checking in to see when you think it'll be coming back online?
Would be interested in Margs cam too. The Albany buoy has been out lost at sea a few months ago, so currently can only go by the Cape Naturaliste buoy (a different ocean) and the Esperance buoy, 400kms down the coast, by which time the swells already passed here. The Yals cam doesn't give a true reading of open ocean swell.
Unless i'm looking at the actual waves there's zero readings to go by from home. Except when the black cockatoos fly sideways and the Pelicans start dancing on the rocks in the inlet ;-)
Sweet as. Cheers Ben. Will add that to my list of McGowan....ahh never mind. :-P
So the Narrabeen cam?? Been out for about 2 years. Surfline's cam is running perfectly and has been for at least a year. What's the hold up?
thermalben wrote:misterbrettc's comments above have got me thinking re: surfcam uptime.
What is an acceptable period of downtime for a surfcam, over the course of a year? 15%, 10%, 5%, 1%?
If we were to aim for 95% uptime for each camera - i.e. 5% downtime - that would equate to a little over 18 offline days every year, almost three weeks.
Obviously, there are some instances of downtime that are completely outside of our control, for example ISP network outages and power outages. But, for Swellnet hardware problems - where our equipment has broken down and needs replacing - I think there's merit in having a target.
We have our own internal monitoring system that keeps us notified as to when our surfcams go offline, and for a few years now I've been wanting to output the uptime information for each location. So, we might display something on the website like:
Snapper Rocks uptime
- 100% last day
- 100% last week
- 99.5% last month
- 97% last yearThis would give subscribers some level of indication of the reliability of each camera over a period of time.
Because, in the case of Lorne and 13th Beach, although their current offline status is annoying, the fact is that both surfcams have been very reliable over the last ten (or more) years.
This isn’t because I don’t have faith in services like this, but because I know that services like this CAN and WILL AT TIMES become mostly defunct.
The same thing seems to be happening over and over again!?
Come on!! It’s mid March 2022 now...
Hi Ben
any info on the Margaret River cam? Been down for a while now.
Nice to have it back and quality looks good. Cheers Ben.
'Cronulla Point' [https://www.swellnet.com/surfcams/cronulla-point] is working OK but having problems. Noted above the cam had recently been replaced (and working fine) but for some reason the transmission stream is being affected somehow causing flickering and blotchy fogged out areas all over the place? Any ideas?
Checked on Google Chrome and Safari.
thermalben wrote:All of our Cronulla cams have been affected by the recent storms/rains (wide range of issues from power to water ingress), and although quite new - only a year old - will replaced ASAP (a large number of East Coast cams were similarly affected, and the team's been fixing them all up one by one). They're currently over in WA attending to surfcam upgrades there but will be back on the East Coast next week.
OK thanks for the heads up. Thought maybe something like this had happened. One hell of a workload ahead.
Geez malben you’re having a bad run , when it rains it pours.
Nice to see the Margaret River webcam is back finally, been working away from the coast so good to be able to see conditions again , One slight correction needed; the boat ramp or boaties but boat ramps? SN renaming surfspots? Its only ever been since Kelly slater and the wsl tried to land grab more spots for their contest did " boat ramps" become terminology (you can tell how long someone has been surfing around here if they call it boat ramps - not long)
While on topic , the wsl and their surfing wa minions have taken over the carpark at Margs with tents and fences, 3 weeks before they even begin (Bells hasnt even started yet) , school holidays, easter and ANZAC day and the point locked up to the locals and tourists , what a fucking joke our Shire is , dodgy permits for multiple contests all summer including SUP, Kite surfing and junior contests, locals wonder how come so many new comps can get approved and then we see Shire council member also has contract to do all the electrical work on contest sites , suss as fuck
fuck the wsl
Boat Ramp or Boatramp are both fine (there is only one ramp there not multiple ha ha )
thanks for that, now if you can do something about the crowds out there these days....
Also a note to new residents, VALs and visitors: it’s Margs or Margarets, never Margies or Margis.
Also: Bali is now OPEN!!!!
Thank you and goodnight.
Shark Island ETA?
I installed Swellnet’s first surfcam sometime in 2005. Since then - more than thirteen years! - technology has advanced rapidly, and the quality and reliability of our surfcam streams has improved considerably.
However, the last few weeks have seen quite a few surfcams go offline for a wide variety of reasons - most of which are completely outside of of our control. So, whilst we work our hardest to get them back up and running, I thought it was worth explaining a few of the problems that can go wrong, and why it can take quite some time to rectify these kinds of issues.
Our surfcams are an automated network. That is, once the cameras are installed, in a perfect world they never have be attended to again unless they go offline. Of course, being right on the beach in highly corrosive marine environments, facing the brunt of every single weather system that sweeps the coast, this means that our hardware is frequently put to the test.
But, by and large, our surfcams will often run for many years without any problems. We only notice when they’re down.
So I thought it'd be interesting to share our troubleshooting regime for when our surfcams do go offline, and an example of the check list we might run through.
Is it a local power issue?
Whilst each surfcam has an on-site uninterruptible power supply (UPS), it’s only small and offers just twenty minutes of backup power. They also protect our equipement from brown-outs, surges, spikes etc - though not all the time - I've seen crazy instances where a surge has gone through one device without affecting it, but then destroyed something on the other side (for example, killing a surfcam but not the power supply that the surge had to pass through to reach the surfcam).
Anyway, the UPS is fine for most minor glitches in the electrical grid network. However, if the power is down across the suburb, then the surfcam will also be offline. Most power companies share this information online, but sometimes it can be slow to be made publicly available.
Is it a local electrical issue at the property?
This happens less frequently, but is the source of our current surfcam outage at 13th Beach. Let me explain in more detail…
After many years of uninterrupted service, our 13th Beach surfcam went offline a few weeks ago. Access to the surfcam is difficult (it’s at the Surf Club, and we’re out of patrolling season), but finally after our local sparky got into the building, we found that the surfcam shared an electrical circuit with some SLSC equipment, which had shorted.
The problem was temporarily fixed, though installing a dedicated circuit was recommended - but couldn’t be done there and then (as parts needed to be sourced, and an installation time booked). Because we’re upgrading that site to NBN in the coming months, we thought we’d do it all in the one go.
But of course, it didn’t last that long… it appears that the circuit has shorted again, just a few days ago (it'll be fixed ASAP).
Is the problem related to our Internet Service Provider?
This issue is even more complex than you can imagine, especially with the gradual switch from ADSL to NBN around the country (around 85% of our network is now on NBN).
Aside from the physical points of failure - all of which are out of our control (the first connection point at the property, the pit in the street, the pillar down the road, the local exchange and the network data centre), sometimes we get thrown a crazy curveball. Allow me to digress…
We’ve had a surfcam at Lorne for many, many years, inside the observation tower at the Surf Lifesaving Club. Initially on an ADSL connection, it was upgraded to ADSL2 a while back, and then last year, finally upgraded to NBN. All was working fine.
However, a couple of weeks ago our ISP advised that they’d mistakenly received notification that the service was to be ‘churned’ to another ISP - something we hadn’t instigated. So, my ISP stopped the process (at a cost to them), and we tried to figure out what went on.
Another week later, the same ‘churn’ request came through again, and my ISP went through the motions to stop it happening (incurring another cost).
We were finally advised that - despite our internet connection being in place, and physically unchanged for well over a decade - it was actually using the ‘wrong’ connection somewhere along the network path (external from the Surf Club, on the street), and was mapped to someone else’s property up the road. The owners of this unknown property were now applying for their own NBN connection, and hence the problem - Swellnet's new problem - was uncovered.
For some unknown reason, NBN were unable to re-route our existing connection, so they simply disconnected Swellnet's internet service last Friday (without notification, either - we are still yet to receive confirmation). We've simply been told that the fastest way to get the Lorne surfcam back is to “re-apply for a new NBN connection”. Which not only means the surfcam will be offline for a few weeks, but now requires two specialist technician visits - a qualified sparky (ACMA approved with open/restricted cabling license) to switch the internal cable at the Surf Club to an unused line, and another technician to reconfigure our modem with the new log in details. And then we’ll need to make some changes within our surfcam streaming infrastructure to get the vision live on the website again.
Fun and games, eh? Add up all of the associated time and cost to fix this problem, including replying to disgruntled Swellnet subscribers who can't view the Lorne surfcam, and it's a royal pain the arse.
This is just one of many examples of what goes on behind the scenes on a weekly basis, just to keep the surfcam internet connections up and running. I'm gonna write a book one day.
Anyway, back to troubleshooting.
Is the problem related to our surfcam hardware?
Each surfcam location has several pieces of equipment, and although we utilise industrial/business-grade hardware, every device still has the capacity to freeze, or break down at some point. Usually when the swell of the year is bearing down on the coast.
Some of our equipment has lasted five or six years before needing to be replaced. On rare occasions, certain pieces of hardware have been DOA (dead on arrival) which is a pain in the arse when you've freighted all of the equipment down to some remote location for a new install, teed up an electrician to install it all, and then the bloody camera needs to be returned to the supplier under warranty for a replacement (resulting in another costly technician visit and a couple of weeks delay on the install).
Have you ever had your ISP ask you to “turn the modem off and on again”? Well, it’s not as stupid as it sounds - that simple procedure often fixes most problems. But, back in 2006 it only took one four-hour drive from Sydney to Ulladulla to press the ‘restart’ button on our old Mollymook surfcam (remember that?), for me to realise that there had to be a better way to remotely power cycle my remote surfcams. So, ever since then we’ve installed expensive remote rebooting equipment at each surfcam that allows us to turn all of the devices off and on again, without needing anyone to visit.
Another example: two weeks ago, our Newcastle surfcam went down.
It took almost a week to arrange a visit (cam went down on a Friday night, so couldn't arrange anything until the Monday; bloke got there Friday). All equipment in the cabinet was working fine, but the technician reported the power source to the surfcam was dead as the power lights were completely off. Now, this was unusual - the power supply rarely dies outright, more often, when there's a fault it'll change the colour of the indicator LEDs from green to orange. So, I asked the technician to look a little more closely. Lo and behold, the power cord into the back of the power supply had come loose, and it just needed to be plugged back in again and the surfcam came instantaneously back. Lucky I didn't arrange for spare parts to be sent down, as that would have delayed its return by up to another week.
But sometimes it's not that easy to source the problem. It could be one or more of the following issues:
Ordinarily, we need someone to visit the surfcam site to check everything out and determine what the problem might be. We have a lot of spare equipment on standby in the Swellnet office, so once we know what the problem is, we can usually replace broken hardware relatively quickly - assuming our local technician is available, and can gain access to the property - I am not kidding when I say that there’s been more than a couple of occasions when a surfcam outage has happened the day after the person with the keys to the property goes overseas on holidays for a couple of weeks.
So, in order to cover all bases, when a surfcam goes offline and we suspect it’s hardware related (i.e. we're confident it's not an electrical problem, nor an ISP/network issue), we often freight a single Pelican case with one replacement of everything (camera, midspan, router, cleaning hardware, rebooter, UPS) to our local technician. This ultimately saves a second technician visit, which could take another week or two once availability and freight times are factored in. However the actual surfcams themselves are very expensive, and we use a couple of different models that each have different mounting brackets, so we can't keep spares of everything - which means purchasing new equipment, some of which is only available from overseas suppliers, which therefore takes time to source and freight. It's not like a supermarket where you can walk in and buy stuff off the shelf - some of our equipment is specialised and may not be available to purchase for periods of time, if the manufacturer runs out of stock.
Anyway, that's just a basic overview of some of the issues that affect the uptime of a surfcam. We're always developing new tools and techniques to improve the reliability, so I hope this answers some of the question you may have been pondering.