Why is that surfcam offline?

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thermalben started the topic in Thursday, 4 Oct 2018 at 9:11am

I installed Swellnet’s first surfcam sometime in 2005. Since then - more than thirteen years! - technology has advanced rapidly, and the quality and reliability of our surfcam streams has improved considerably. 

However, the last few weeks have seen quite a few surfcams go offline for a wide variety of reasons - most of which are completely outside of of our control. So, whilst we work our hardest to get them back up and running, I thought it was worth explaining a few of the problems that can go wrong, and why it can take quite some time to rectify these kinds of issues.

Our surfcams are an automated network. That is, once the cameras are installed, in a perfect world they never have be attended to again unless they go offline. Of course, being right on the beach in highly corrosive marine environments, facing the brunt of every single weather system that sweeps the coast, this means that our hardware is frequently put to the test. 

But, by and large, our surfcams will often run for many years without any problems. We only notice when they’re down. 

So I thought it'd be interesting to share our troubleshooting regime for when our surfcams do go offline, and an example of the check list we might run through. 

Is it a local power issue?

Whilst each surfcam has an on-site uninterruptible power supply (UPS), it’s only small and offers just twenty minutes of backup power. They also protect our equipement from brown-outs, surges, spikes etc - though not all the time - I've seen crazy instances where a surge has gone through one device without affecting it, but then destroyed something on the other side (for example, killing a surfcam but not the power supply that the surge had to pass through to reach the surfcam).

Anyway, the UPS is fine for most minor glitches in the electrical grid network. However, if the power is down across the suburb, then the surfcam will also be offline. Most power companies share this information online, but sometimes it can be slow to be made publicly available. 

Is it a local electrical issue at the property?

This happens less frequently, but is the source of our current surfcam outage at 13th Beach. Let me explain in more detail…

After many years of uninterrupted service, our 13th Beach surfcam went offline a few weeks ago. Access to the surfcam is difficult (it’s at the Surf Club, and we’re out of patrolling season), but finally after our local sparky got into the building, we found that the surfcam shared an electrical circuit with some SLSC equipment, which had shorted.

The problem was temporarily fixed, though installing a dedicated circuit was recommended - but couldn’t be done there and then (as parts needed to be sourced, and an installation time booked). Because we’re upgrading that site to NBN in the coming months, we thought we’d do it all in the one go.

But of course, it didn’t last that long… it appears that the circuit has shorted again, just a few days ago (it'll be fixed ASAP).

Is the problem related to our Internet Service Provider?

This issue is even more complex than you can imagine, especially with the gradual switch from ADSL to NBN around the country (around 85% of our network is now on NBN).

Aside from the physical points of failure - all of which are out of our control (the first connection point at the property, the pit in the street, the pillar down the road, the local exchange and the network data centre), sometimes we get thrown a crazy curveball. Allow me to digress…

We’ve had a surfcam at Lorne for many, many years, inside the observation tower at the Surf Lifesaving Club. Initially on an ADSL connection, it was upgraded to ADSL2 a while back, and then last year, finally upgraded to NBN. All was working fine.

However, a couple of weeks ago our ISP advised that they’d mistakenly received notification that the service was to be ‘churned’ to another ISP - something we hadn’t instigated. So, my ISP stopped the process (at a cost to them), and we tried to figure out what went on. 

Another week later, the same ‘churn’ request came through again, and my ISP went through the motions to stop it happening (incurring another cost). 

We were finally advised that - despite our internet connection being in place, and physically unchanged for well over a decade - it was actually using the ‘wrong’ connection somewhere along the network path (external from the Surf Club, on the street), and was mapped to someone else’s property up the road. The owners of this unknown property were now applying for their own NBN connection, and hence the problem - Swellnet's new problem - was uncovered. 

For some unknown reason, NBN were unable to re-route our existing connection, so they simply disconnected Swellnet's internet service last Friday (without notification, either - we are still yet to receive confirmation). We've simply been told that the fastest way to get the Lorne surfcam back is to “re-apply for a new NBN connection”. Which not only means the surfcam will be offline for a few weeks, but now requires two specialist technician visits - a qualified sparky (ACMA approved with open/restricted cabling license) to switch the internal cable at the Surf Club to an unused line, and another technician to reconfigure our modem with the new log in details. And then we’ll need to make some changes within our surfcam streaming infrastructure to get the vision live on the website again. 

Fun and games, eh? Add up all of the associated time and cost to fix this problem, including replying to disgruntled Swellnet subscribers who can't view the Lorne surfcam, and it's a royal pain the arse.

This is just one of many examples of what goes on behind the scenes on a weekly basis, just to keep the surfcam internet connections up and running. I'm gonna write a book one day. 

Anyway, back to troubleshooting.

Is the problem related to our surfcam hardware? 

Each surfcam location has several pieces of equipment, and although we utilise industrial/business-grade hardware, every device still has the capacity to freeze, or break down at some point. Usually when the swell of the year is bearing down on the coast.

Some of our equipment has lasted five or six years before needing to be replaced. On rare occasions, certain pieces of hardware have been DOA (dead on arrival) which is a pain in the arse when you've freighted all of the equipment down to some remote location for a new install, teed up an electrician to install it all, and then the bloody camera needs to be returned to the supplier under warranty for a replacement (resulting in another costly technician visit and a couple of weeks delay on the install). 

Have you ever had your ISP ask you to “turn the modem off and on again”? Well, it’s not as stupid as it sounds - that simple procedure often fixes most problems. But, back in 2006 it only took one four-hour drive from Sydney to Ulladulla to press the ‘restart’ button on our old Mollymook surfcam (remember that?), for me to realise that there had to be a better way to remotely power cycle my remote surfcams. So, ever since then we’ve installed expensive remote rebooting equipment at each surfcam that allows us to turn all of the devices off and on again, without needing anyone to visit.

Another example: two weeks ago, our Newcastle surfcam went down.

It took almost a week to arrange a visit (cam went down on a Friday night, so couldn't arrange anything until the Monday; bloke got there Friday). All equipment in the cabinet was working fine, but the technician reported the power source to the surfcam was dead as the power lights were completely off. Now, this was unusual - the power supply rarely dies outright, more often, when there's a fault it'll change the colour of the indicator LEDs from green to orange. So, I asked the technician to look a little more closely. Lo and behold, the power cord into the back of the power supply had come loose, and it just needed to be plugged back in again and the surfcam came instantaneously back. Lucky I didn't arrange for spare parts to be sent down, as that would have delayed its return by up to another week. 

But sometimes it's not that easy to source the problem. It could be one or more of the following issues:

  • Modem is dead and needs to be replaced
  • Surfcam is dead and needs to be replaced
  • Surfcam power source (also called a midspan) is dead and needs to be replaced
  • UPS is dead (or its battery is dead, as per Snapper Rocks last weekend) and needs to be replaced
  • Custom cleaning hardware is dead and needs to be replaced
  • Remote rebooting hardware is dead and needs to be replaced (the most ironic of all!)
  • Surfcam and/or modem firmware is playing up and needs to be factory reset (requiring a specialist technician visit)
  • Cabling has been affected and needs to be replaced (once, we had rats chew through the data cable to the surfcam!). Also worth pointing out that this is usually a not-insignificant project; laying cable is often the most time consuming part of any surfcam installation
  • Lightning strike and an associated power surge may have damaged cabling through the property (couple of years back, we had four locations affected by lightning in one week) - again, a difficult problem to source, and can only be fixed by an electrician

Ordinarily, we need someone to visit the surfcam site to check everything out and determine what the problem might be. We have a lot of spare equipment on standby in the Swellnet office, so once we know what the problem is, we can usually replace broken hardware relatively quickly - assuming our local technician is available, and can gain access to the property - I am not kidding when I say that there’s been more than a couple of occasions when a surfcam outage has happened the day after the person with the keys to the property goes overseas on holidays for a couple of weeks. 

So, in order to cover all bases, when a surfcam goes offline and we suspect it’s hardware related (i.e. we're confident it's not an electrical problem, nor an ISP/network issue), we often freight a single Pelican case with one replacement of everything (camera, midspan, router, cleaning hardware, rebooter, UPS) to our local technician. This ultimately saves a second technician visit, which could take another week or two once availability and freight times are factored in. However the actual surfcams themselves are very expensive, and we use a couple of different models that each have different mounting brackets, so we can't keep spares of everything - which means purchasing new equipment, some of which is only available from overseas suppliers, which therefore takes time to source and freight. It's not like a supermarket where you can walk in and buy stuff off the shelf - some of our equipment is specialised and may not be available to purchase for periods of time, if the manufacturer runs out of stock.

Anyway, that's just a basic overview of some of the issues that affect the uptime of a surfcam. We're always developing new tools and techniques to improve the reliability, so I hope this answers some of the question you may have been pondering.

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get.coned Wednesday, 29 Dec 2021 at 1:29pm

Thanks for adding an Alex bluff cam. No more zooming in on the Alex Headland to check it!

I've noticed it hasn't been added to the surfcams list on the main menu and can only be accessed from the nearby cams section when looking at another cam.

I'm trying to add it to my multi-cam but can't without it being on the list.

Just checking if this is an oversight or is already on the to-do list?

Cheers

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Suitsurfer Tuesday, 11 Jan 2022 at 12:43pm

Any word on when the Lorne and 13th Beach web cams will be back online?

Cheers

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thermalben Tuesday, 11 Jan 2022 at 1:29pm

Lorne UPS battery died on the weekend. I immediately shipped down a replacement but just got an email this morning that "Unfortunately, our current stock is having some quality issues, hence we have stopped dispatching the old stock. We have now processed full refund for you."

Eh? Anyway, gotta find another one and send down to get swapped over.

13th Beach is still awaiting the surf club to be finished being rebuilt.

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thermalben Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 7:22am

Just an update on Lorne. Here's a timeline of what we've done so far:

Our monitoring system detected the cam went down at 8:20pm on Jan 5th. The nature of the outage suggested a power issue (rather than internet outage) but we needed someone on site to visually confirm, so that we knew what equipment needed to be replaced.

Contacted someone at the surf club on the morning of Friday Jan 6th, but they were delayed in gaining access until Sunday 8th. Confirmed the most likely source of the problem was the battery in the UPS had died.

Usual source of replacement batteries is JayCar. Nearest store is Geelong, so went down the postage route - but after an hour of trying, was unable to get one sent down - initially they 'wouldn't post to a PO Box'; then they just simply wouldn't post at all (maybe because it's a battery, i.e. restricted freight item? I dunno).

So, I tried another ten online retailers - keeping in mind, this ain't AA Energizers I'm looking for - UPS batteries are only found in a few speciality stores, and whilst there are some after-market batteries, it's important that they have the right dimensions, as it's a tight fit in the back of the UPS.

Finally found one through a third party reseller on Kogan. Paid, booked etc, locked in - but wasn't sure how long it's take to deliver - Lorne's a small country town, and there are massive delivery delays at the moment. Date is still Sunday Jan 8th.

Tues Jan 11th, received an email from the seller. "Thanks for purchasing this item. Unfortunately, our current stock is having some quality issues, hence we have stopped dispatching the old stock. We have now processed full refund for you."

WTF? OK, back to square one. Instead of buying a replacement battery, I decided to purchase a whole replacement UPS. Got one within an hour (most suppliers have zero stock at the moment), placed an order. Supplier is a regular source of hardware for us, so expecting reliable service. They "had stock on hand" so assuming they dispatch within 24 hours, will hopefully be delivered by Friday Jan 14th - though most likely earlier in the following week (i.e. this week).

Yesterday, having not received notification of the delivery, I checked the order status and it's "currently pending".

WTF? Funds have left the bank account, their website said stock was on hand. Have emailed asking what is up with the order.

So that's where we're at with Lorne. Just another frustrating day in the life of surfcam maintenance.

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GuySmiley Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 8:51am

Why not contact local lad VicLocal to pick up from JayCar in Geelong & deliver to Lorne Ben, if he refuses threaten to ban him from the forums. Haha. He sounds like a community minded citizen. What do say VL?

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Cockee Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 9:20am

Bit of a Catch 22 there GS - VL knows he can't afford to take off more than a few mins of his day from educating us on the forums, but if he doesn't give up a slice of his valuable teaching time, Ben will ban him. Indeed a complex and onerous proposition for VL to consider.

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goofyfoot Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 10:34am

VL reply coming shortly - “so here’s the thing you blokes’…”

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Vic Local Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 10:45am

Just got boosted and waiting my 15 mins in north geelong. Happy to drop by specialty electric store in geelong and head to Lorne.

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GuySmiley Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 11:31am

Good one Viclocal that’s the spirit well done

Mmmm, he started his SN career running an errand for a desperate Ben but quickly progressed to Vicco reporter before moving up to ... ?

Just my attempt of humour in an otherwise dull onshore day

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Vic Local Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 11:51am
GuySmiley wrote:

Good one Viclocal that’s the spirit well done

Mmmm, he started his SN career running an errand for a desperate Ben but quickly progressed to Vicco reporter before moving up to ... ?

Just my attempt of humour in an otherwise dull onshore day

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About 15 years ago I stepped in to replace the regular Surf Coast reporter. It was a week on northerly winds and mid size swell. I kept saying PI and Mornington were better value for Melbourne surfers. Those reporters wised up and started saying Surf Coast reefs would be good value.
Ahh good times.

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GuySmiley Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 12:45pm

Nice VL, exactly as I’d play it. Pick up the batteries?

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thermalben Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 4:34pm

Thanks for the offer VL, however I've decided to change tact - I'm gonna remove the UPS from the equation (not quite as easy as it sounds, but a better long term solution IMO).

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thermalben Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 6:55pm

Tis back.

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dannyz Tuesday, 18 Jan 2022 at 11:45am

Any idea when we’re getting the Avoca cam back online? it’s been ages now guys

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thermalben Tuesday, 18 Jan 2022 at 12:06pm

Hopefully in the next few days. First we had a tech issue, then a delivery delay, then the Xmas/New Year holiday break (where no-one was available) followed by a Covid-19 close-contact for our technician (requiring yet another reschedule) - all of which prevented us from getting this swapped over in a timely manner.

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thermalben Wednesday, 19 Jan 2022 at 12:27pm

Avoca is back.

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dannyz Thursday, 20 Jan 2022 at 1:11pm

awesome thanks mate looks great!
except it’s not planning anymore?

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thermalben Thursday, 20 Jan 2022 at 4:41pm

Haven't quite set that up yet.. in the next day or so

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dannyz Friday, 21 Jan 2022 at 2:07pm

ahh sweet thanks mate.. can i request that it stops on the current position when you do get it panning? it never used to, it would pan right past this current shot.. it’s a great part of the beach

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dannyz Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 9:41am
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Haven't quite set that up yet.. in the next day or so

hey mate any update on the panning? i love the current position it’s in but wanna see the rest of the beach too.. yeww

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epictard Wednesday, 23 Feb 2022 at 8:12am

Wollongong has been down for a week or so now.
I am just checking in to see when you think it'll be coming back online?

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thermalben Wednesday, 23 Feb 2022 at 11:02am

Had a technician out there last week, confirmed the camera is dead (ironically, had a technician out the week before swapping out the modem and other hardware, though didn't touch the camera.. just a coincidence I suppose).

Have sent down replacement hardware, will be installed ASAP.

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Kered Ausden Wednesday, 23 Feb 2022 at 3:14pm

Margaret River has been down for a week or so now.
I am just checking in to see when you think it'll be coming back online?

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bluediamond Wednesday, 23 Feb 2022 at 3:53pm

Would be interested in Margs cam too. The Albany buoy has been out lost at sea a few months ago, so currently can only go by the Cape Naturaliste buoy (a different ocean) and the Esperance buoy, 400kms down the coast, by which time the swells already passed here. The Yals cam doesn't give a true reading of open ocean swell.
Unless i'm looking at the actual waves there's zero readings to go by from home. Except when the black cockatoos fly sideways and the Pelicans start dancing on the rocks in the inlet ;-)

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thermalben Wednesday, 23 Feb 2022 at 3:55pm

Same deal with Margs, have sent over some replacement hardware (camera finally gave up the ghost) though we're swapping it out with new gear so it's a bigger project - have been waiting for borders to re-open so I can send over a technician but am still not entirely sure on entry restrictions.

WA cams have been a major headache to maintain over the last 2 years because of travel restrictions. Looking forward to upgrading 'em all over the next couple of months.

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bluediamond Thursday, 24 Feb 2022 at 7:15pm

Sweet as. Cheers Ben. Will add that to my list of McGowan....ahh never mind. :-P

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thermalben Friday, 25 Feb 2022 at 9:24am

Lorne and Fairhaven are offline, thanks to a faulty software patch.

Last year, NBN announced they were implement two new functions to VDSL2 lines, Save Our Showtime (SOS) and Robust Overhead Channel (ROC), designed to improve the stability of an internet connection.

We were told that modems needed to be compatible by early March, so yesterday afternoon we started rolling out firmware updates (provided by our hardware manufacturers).

All of the updates worked fine, except Lorne and Fairhaven, which were both using the same kind of modem (but different to the rest of the network). As such, these modems now appear to be bricked, and will require a site visit to rectify. We'll try to get that done early next week.

Apologies for the inconvenience.

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eel Friday, 25 Feb 2022 at 1:15pm

So the Narrabeen cam?? Been out for about 2 years. Surfline's cam is running perfectly and has been for at least a year. What's the hold up?

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thermalben Friday, 25 Feb 2022 at 1:20pm

Now that we can travel more freely from Northern NSW, we've finally scheduled a large number of well-overdue upgrades (right around the country), which are happening over the coming weeks, This includes a major enhancement of our Sydney network. Very much looking forward to it.

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thermalben Friday, 25 Feb 2022 at 5:17pm

Bloody hell. Primary surfcam server (in Amazon datacentre) went down around 3:30pm, and we couldn't revive it. Extremely unusual (i.e. haven't seen this in fifteen years). So, all surfcams are currently offline.

Lodged a critical support issue. Got a response 40 mins later: "Please be informed that System status check failures indicate that there is an issue with the hardware hosting. It is because of unhealthy underlying hardware the instance became unresponsive. And the instance must be migrated to a new, healthy host by stopping and starting the instance."

Righto, thanks.

And then an automated email another 30 mins later:

"Amazon has detected degradation of your hardware. Due to this degradation your server could already be unreachable. We will stop your instance after 2022-03-11 06:00:00 UTC. Please take appropriate action before this time."

So, there ya go - our internal monitoring picked it up before Amazon's automatic monitoring.

And now we begin the process to spin up a new server.

Apologies for the inconvenience.

Just what I need at 5pm on a Friday afternoon!

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thermalben Friday, 25 Feb 2022 at 7:29pm

Server restored. Thanks for your patience.

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Darksoda13 Monday, 14 Mar 2022 at 8:32am
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misterbrettc's comments above have got me thinking re: surfcam uptime. 

What is an acceptable period of downtime for a surfcam, over the course of a year? 15%, 10%, 5%, 1%?

If we were to aim for 95% uptime for each camera - i.e. 5% downtime - that would equate to a little over 18 offline days every year, almost three weeks. 

Obviously, there are some instances of downtime that are completely outside of our control, for example ISP network outages and power outages. But, for Swellnet hardware problems - where our equipment has broken down and needs replacing - I think there's merit in having a target.

We have our own internal monitoring system that keeps us notified as to when our surfcams go offline, and for a few years now I've been wanting to output the uptime information for each location. So, we might display something on the website like:

Snapper Rocks uptime
- 100% last day
- 100% last week
- 99.5% last month
- 97% last year

This would give subscribers some level of indication of the reliability of each camera over a period of time.

Because, in the case of Lorne and 13th Beach, although their current offline status is annoying, the fact is that both surfcams have been very reliable over the last ten (or more) years.

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Darksoda13 Monday, 14 Mar 2022 at 8:52am

This isn’t because I don’t have faith in services like this, but because I know that services like this CAN and WILL AT TIMES become mostly defunct.

The same thing seems to be happening over and over again!?

Come on!! It’s mid March 2022 now...

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mikehunt207 Sunday, 20 Mar 2022 at 12:16pm

Hi Ben
any info on the Margaret River cam? Been down for a while now.

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thermalben Sunday, 20 Mar 2022 at 2:02pm

Yep, WA trip booked to come over and upgrade in a couple of week's time. Been waiting on a couple of things - borders to reopen, and also parts to become available. And then need to schedule that in amongst the other work we're doing.

Re: parts availability - this is another huge problem we've been battling for the last couple of years - there's a massive global shortage of chips required for a lot of the hardware we use, and it's creating huge delays in getting replacement equipment.

For example, we use two specific kinds of routers (depending on the job) and everywhere in the WORLD is out of stock at the moment, so I can't even order from US or EU. The next ETA for delivery in Australia is mid-July, so I'll receive goods mid-late July at the earliest - and even then, there'll be a massive backlog of orders - one of our suppliers has already sold 80% of their incoming stock - that requires payment up front (i.e. 4-5 months in advance), which is difficult for many small businesses to manage.

Anyway, the floods/rains have also caused a wide range of problems - we've lost quite a bit of hardware due to water ingress etc and are having to replace a lot of gear. Goes with the territory I suppose.

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thermalben Monday, 4 Apr 2022 at 12:33pm

Wollongong back! Should be able to knock off most of the other offline cams this week and next. Thanks for your patience.

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epictard Wednesday, 6 Apr 2022 at 11:19am

Nice to have it back and quality looks good. Cheers Ben.

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surfing-cronulla Friday, 8 Apr 2022 at 10:48am

'Cronulla Point' [https://www.swellnet.com/surfcams/cronulla-point] is working OK but having problems. Noted above the cam had recently been replaced (and working fine) but for some reason the transmission stream is being affected somehow causing flickering and blotchy fogged out areas all over the place? Any ideas?
Checked on Google Chrome and Safari.

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thermalben Saturday, 9 Apr 2022 at 6:28am

All of our Cronulla cams have been affected by the recent storms/rains (wide range of issues from power to water ingress), and although quite new - only a year old - will replaced ASAP (a large number of East Coast cams were similarly affected, and the team's been fixing them all up one by one). They're currently over in WA attending to surfcam upgrades there but will be back on the East Coast next week.

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surfing-cronulla Saturday, 9 Apr 2022 at 3:13pm
thermalben wrote:

All of our Cronulla cams have been affected by the recent storms/rains (wide range of issues from power to water ingress), and although quite new - only a year old - will replaced ASAP (a large number of East Coast cams were similarly affected, and the team's been fixing them all up one by one). They're currently over in WA attending to surfcam upgrades there but will be back on the East Coast next week.

OK thanks for the heads up. Thought maybe something like this had happened. One hell of a workload ahead.

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thermalben Sunday, 10 Apr 2022 at 9:55am

OK.. Margs cam is back!

But.. Cronulla cams (beaches and Alley) are still offline, and it looks like Shark Island finally died this morning (it's been having issues ever since the huge rain event a few weeks back).

I actually ordered a cam upgrade for Shark Island a couple of weeks ago, but the hardware is still sitting in a container in China - delayed once again due to Covid (distributor says: "Shanghai is in very bad Covid situation now. They are locking down for the warehouse for the moment even Shanghai airport, we just have to wait for they are back.") So, unsure how long that will be. Currently taking 3-4 months for hardware to arrive in Australia, once it's been paid for.

Anyway, we have some other gear in the office that'll work in the meantime, so we'll try to get down to the Shire this week to swap 'em all out.

We've had a couple of really tricky weeks thanks to the adverse weather, and are also experiencing across multiple other sites (ongoing NBN issues at Yamba, dead surfcam Greenmount etc) - but we'll get to 'em all ASAP. Got a couple of months of work ahead including a large number of new surfcam installs too.

Thanks for your patience.

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Supafreak Sunday, 10 Apr 2022 at 9:57am

Geez malben you’re having a bad run , when it rains it pours.

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thermalben Sunday, 10 Apr 2022 at 10:42am

Thing that disappoints me is that is masks the amazing work we've done behind the scenes across the entire cam network.

Might have to do an explanatory article soon highlighting what we've built.

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mikehunt207 Sunday, 10 Apr 2022 at 1:30pm

Nice to see the Margaret River webcam is back finally, been working away from the coast so good to be able to see conditions again , One slight correction needed; the boat ramp or boaties but boat ramps? SN renaming surfspots? Its only ever been since Kelly slater and the wsl tried to land grab more spots for their contest did " boat ramps" become terminology (you can tell how long someone has been surfing around here if they call it boat ramps - not long)
While on topic , the wsl and their surfing wa minions have taken over the carpark at Margs with tents and fences, 3 weeks before they even begin (Bells hasnt even started yet) , school holidays, easter and ANZAC day and the point locked up to the locals and tourists , what a fucking joke our Shire is , dodgy permits for multiple contests all summer including SUP, Kite surfing and junior contests, locals wonder how come so many new comps can get approved and then we see Shire council member also has contract to do all the electrical work on contest sites , suss as fuck
fuck the wsl

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thermalben Sunday, 10 Apr 2022 at 1:45pm

Fair point MH. I actually thought it was Boatramp (one word) but as per usual did a quick Google and seemed to come across more cases of the pluralised, two-word version.

I'll amend. One word or two?

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mikehunt207 Sunday, 10 Apr 2022 at 2:00pm

Boat Ramp or Boatramp are both fine (there is only one ramp there not multiple ha ha )
thanks for that, now if you can do something about the crowds out there these days....

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Michael Adam Sunday, 10 Apr 2022 at 3:14pm

Also a note to new residents, VALs and visitors: it’s Margs or Margarets, never Margies or Margis.
Also: Bali is now OPEN!!!!
Thank you and goodnight.

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thermalben Sunday, 10 Apr 2022 at 4:13pm

Yeah the Margies moniker has bugged me for years.

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thermalben Thursday, 14 Apr 2022 at 9:24am

Experiencing some issues with our Burleigh data connection this morning, have sent a tech around to investigate.

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Sprout Tuesday, 26 Apr 2022 at 10:58am

Shark Island ETA?