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factotum started the topic in Thursday, 27 Aug 2020 at 11:12am

Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank

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Blowin Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 6:09pm

The whole sorry saga is completely unraveling.

Blindboy’s response? Keep knitting like fuck!

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sypkan Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 6:10pm

"Is there a point here or is your obviously desperate scraping of the barrel the point itself?"

whataboutery is the point!

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sypkan Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 6:11pm

knit harder grandpa!

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blindboy Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 6:11pm

Another finding was that the Russian military intelligence agency GRU hacked into email accounts owned by volunteers and employees of the Clinton presidential campaign, including that of campaign chairman John Podesta, and also hacked into the computer networks of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) and the Democratic National Committee (DNC). As a result, the GRU obtained hundreds of thousands of hacked documents, and the GRU proceeded by arranging releases of damaging hacked material via the WikiLeaks organization and also GRU's false personas "DCLeaks" and "Guccifer 2.0.

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sypkan Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 6:19pm

yeh

and it's all old news....

we know, we've been following it

the new developments blindboy?

the confirmations about clinton?

(that are kind of old news too, if you were not living in a bubble...)

they are indisputable facts... now... confirmed...

it's a hell of a story

get into it old boy

you really are depriving yourself...

still...

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blindboy Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 6:25pm

Quick summary.
So far:
Did Russia interfere to help Trump get elected. Without a shdow of a doubt.
Did Trump and his team communicate directly with the Russiands involved? High probability
Did Trump and his team take advantage of the Russian support for his campaign? Certain.
Did Trump and his team use illegally obtained emails to attack Clinton's credibility. Yes

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Blowin Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 6:29pm

Are any of those suggestions that Trump colluded with Russia and was Putin’s puppet as the fantasy actually proclaimed? Lol….no.

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sypkan Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 6:32pm

yawn....

got any new developments?

like...

Did Trump (clinton) and his (her) team communicate directly with the Russiands involved? High probability

not just high probability... undoubtably indisputeably so...

you really are missing the real story

old news... old boy...

move on

get up to speed...

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Blowin Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 6:39pm

Look…this was the lie. You are still telling this lie. Have you no shame?

There’s no way to avoid being blunt here Blindboy. At this stage of proceedings, for you to be still peddling this bullshit means you are one of two things:

1/ The stupidest most gullible rube to ever walk the earth
Or
2/ An unapologetic serial liar.

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sypkan Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 6:53pm

"Are any of those suggestions that Trump colluded with Russia and was Putin’s puppet as the fantasy actually proclaimed? Lol….no."

this is the funny thing... the 'putin's puppet' part seems to have been so far from the truth it's quite ridiculous the media went so hard on it

yes there were groups of people with a common interest, working towards to a common goal... (that's politics...)

...but the lie that putin had kompromat on trump, or some other force over him, appears to be have just been a massive lie and nothing else...

interesting watching an old abc doco on it all the other night, while sarah ferguson tried her hardest to paint a certain picture with various trump representatives, they just weren't having it... the conviction they pushed back with was quite convincing ( especially in hindsight), and they were just plain flabberghasted with some of her suggestions...

developing news has just vindicated their positions and shown how and why they had such conviction... 90% of the bullshit we've heard was just that, pure fabrication...

it's alarming it could go on at such high levels for so long

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andy-mac Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 7:53pm

Been following this thread and just wish to add...

https://m.

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tubeshooter Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 7:57pm

Floggin a dead horse, and this one is a just a pile of bones now that the scavengers have picked clean.
Old Schiffty is still holding the line though,,

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Snuffy Smith Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 8:04pm

USA in real time peanuts

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blindboy Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 9:01pm

And in volume 2,

The report:
Did not exonerate Trump on obstruction of justice as, after examining the evidence, the investigators were not confident of his innocence

Found that once Trump was aware that he was personally being investigated for obstruction of justice, he started public attacks on the investigation and individuals involved in it who could possess evidence adverse to the president, while in private, the president engaged in a series of targeted efforts to control the investigation. However, his efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful, because the persons who surrounded the President declined to carry out orders or accede to his requests.

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sypkan Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 11:05pm

more old news... old boy...

you stuck in 2019 or something?

"...However, his efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful, because the persons who surrounded the President declined to carry out orders or accede to his requests..."

so... you are saying, the investigation was carried out largely uninpeded...

where not even the staff did the usual stonewalling damage controlling...

and still they found nothing!!!

it really is anazing... all those resources... all that time... all that money... light, dark and otherwise... investigating a criminal buffoon like trump...

and still they found nothing!

they still couldn't even find anything to exaggerate, ...anything... to 'unpack' and 'investigate'... nothing at all it would seem... to drag trump through some cooked up, politically charged, politically damaging, witch hunt hearing...

blows me away!

literally cannot believe it!

yet once again, you seem to be missing the main part of the story...

stop doing it to yourself, lighten up, embrace the beyond belief reality... it's a hell of a story...

again...

and the question remains... can one obstruct justice to an event that didn't happen?

bit of an oxymoron really...

or, is that just, ...justice?

being served... or at least being facilitated... enacted?

big important questions blindboy... if one has the inclination to look...

it's quite the saga indeed... still unfolding...

but you're a bit behind... desperately clinging...

to something...

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Blowin Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 6:18am

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Blowin Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 6:38am
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Vic Local Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 6:50am
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The truth comes out again.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-kyle-rittenhouse-trial

Ha Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. That far right wing Tucker Carlson bullshit is your "truth" blowin. Meanwhile back in the real world...

Seriously, what sort of person puts up a link to an opinion piece to Fox News' most extreme talking head, and holds it up as an absolute truth?

This certainly looks like you are defending the actions of a 17 year old kid who travelled hundreds of kilometres, armed with a military weapon, and shot multiple people because he didn't like their politics. You need help mate.

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Blowin Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 7:01am

I think you’ll find that the truth comes out in the court case.

I’m glad you doubled down on your defence of a convicted paedophile, a convicted burglar and a gronk convicted of domestic violence who all got shot after they attacked a bloke on the street.

You’d better make sure you don’t watch the video because you would lose your only line of attack which is to obfuscate and lie.

BTW….Tucker Carlson is an extremist? OMFG bloke…..you’re a funny old coot. I challenge you to watch that video and report back on a single extremist sentiment in it.

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Vic Local Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 7:07am

"I’m glad you doubled down on your defence of a convicted paedophile, a convicted burglar and a gronk convicted of domestic violence who all got shot after they attacked a bloke on the street."
You'll have to show everyone exactly where I did that blowin.
Nobody is buying your straw man bullshit.

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indo-dreaming Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 8:08am
Vic Local wrote:
Blowin wrote:

The truth comes out again.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-kyle-rittenhouse-trial

Ha Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. That far right wing Tucker Carlson bullshit is your "truth" blowin. Meanwhile back in the real world...

Seriously, what sort of person puts up a link to an opinion piece to Fox News' most extreme talking head, and holds it up as an absolute truth?

This certainly looks like you are defending the actions of a 17 year old kid who travelled hundreds of kilometres, armed with a military weapon, and shot multiple people because he didn't like their politics. You need help mate.

You can pick any news outlet, the news is the same, because the court case is what the news is based on.

Although i doubt he will avoid all charges, the self defence case is looking better for him the more the case goes on and the prosecution witness have only helped his case, having a gun pointed in your face is a pretty good excuse for self defence especially while being beaten by a violent mob and smashed over the head with a skateboard.

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Michael Adam Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 12:54pm

Turns out Kyle was the good guy all along… more than just a good guy, a great kid, a hero, a legend.
Fucken straight up legend!

What else are the FBI, democrats, facebook, youtube, gofundme, twitter, cnn, abc, bbc, guardian, lying to us about and hiding…. Hmmmm….
Who’s still buying their nonsense?

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Supafreak Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 1:33pm

Smirko’s not the only one with big announcements.

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Blowin Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 1:44pm

Dementia Joe trying to get ahead of the hyperinflation curve.

By 2024 his $45 will be worth $12 in today’s terms……but no one is going to be getting $45/ hour!

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sypkan Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 2:03pm

even if you agreed with everything joe says...

that is not a well man mumbling away

'elected ' leader of the free world right there people...

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sypkan Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 2:06pm

https://mobile.twitter.com/thevivafrei/status/1457774701673996298

funny, running commentary of the trial

looks like game over... looking at the prosecuters reaction especially...

all that coaching... all that curating...

be interesting to see what hapoens from here

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sypkan Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 2:11pm

"Turns out Kyle was the good guy all along… more than just a good guy, a great kid, a hero, a legend.
Fucken straight up legend!"

I wouldn't go that far... the tool shouldn't have been there in the first place...

but pretty hard to say that wasn't self defence... like impossible hard.... but we will see...

"What else are the FBI, democrats, facebook, youtube, gofundme, twitter, cnn, abc, bbc, guardian, lying to us about and hiding…. Hmmmm…."

pretty much everything...

"Who’s still buying their nonsense?"

lot's of people... they just reject reality by rejecting any news that doesn't align with their ideology... see example above...

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sypkan Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 2:15pm

well trained pavlov dogs...

the next few years are make or break for reality... and commensurately society...

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Blowin Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 3:25pm

This is a fact. Think about that for a second.

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Blowin Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 3:45pm
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“Justice must not only be done, but must also be seen to be done"...or some horseshit. I dunno...

https://god.dailydot.com/rittenhouse-judges-ringtone-trump/?fbclid=IwAR2...

So an American judge who has a ring tone which is a famous patriotic song in the states is obviously biased because the song was used at a Trump rally?

FFS….lucky then that the entire trial is being broadcast live and any fucking idiot can see that the case is being decided on its merit- which includes the person who got shot admitting he was attacking the defendant with a loaded pistol pointed at the defendant’s face- so that there is no possibility of any farcical claim of a rigged trial.

Fucks sake Facto…..you’d rather continue your lying to protect a dead convicted paedophile who threatened to kill people than just admit you were fed lies by your pet media?

Or maybe you’ve just got a soft spot for aggressively violent paedophiles?

Either way….you’re scum bloke.

The salient point from your comment… you don’t know.

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Blowin Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 3:47pm

Having your own Remembrance Day for the aggressively violent paedophile who was “wrongfully” shot when he tried to kill Rittenhouse Facto?

Big day for you Bloke!

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Blowin Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 3:52pm

40 seconds in Facto…..that’s your boy!

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6281382129001#sp=show-clips

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sypkan Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 4:14pm

"Fucks sake Facto…..you’d rather continue your lying to protect a dead convicted paedophile who threatened to kill people than just admit you were fed lies by your pet media?"

yep, scary...

when your team (or is it just winning?) ...is more important than any truth, justice or reality...

when did politics become so brutal?

i know media has always been full of shit and propaganda... but we're deep into some scary territory now...

where winning at any cost is all important

'whatever it takes'

said the conservatives...

once said...

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Michael Adam Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 4:19pm

Oh Blumpkin!
There really is nothing you can be shown or told…the evidence. The harsh reality of reality. You’re too far gone mate….keep swallowing.
Or…
Give us another meme!

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Blowin Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 4:28pm

Facto won’t care that the judge was appointed by a Democrat.. Thats just another fact for him to ignore.

What’s wrong with Blumpkin? Why is he so desperate to glorify the death of an aggressively violent paedophile that he is prepared to lie through his teeth to get his kiddie molesting mate over the line?

Strange that Facto loves to think he’s anti establishment, yet here he is lying to besmirch the name of a fella who had to defend himself against a murderous paedophile just so the Facto can bolster the corporate media’s lies? Truly strange.

It shows how the establishment has inverted the idea of liberal so that all the brain dead wankers now think that anything the corporate media spouts is Huey’s Truth.

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blindboy Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 4:28pm

From the cross examination

"Binger: You intentionally used deadly force against Joseph Rosenbaum, correct?

Rittenhouse: Yes.

Binger: You intentionally use deadly force against the man who came and tried to kick you in the face, correct?

Rittenhouse: Yes.

Binger: You intentionally use deadly force against Anthony Huber, correct?

Rittenhouse: Yes.

Binger: You intentionally use deadly force against Gaige Grosskreutz, correct?

Rittenhouse: Yes.

Binger: With regard to Joseph Rosenbaum, you fired four shots at him, correct?

Rittenhouse: Yes."

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Blowin Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 4:34pm
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From the cross examination

"Binger: You intentionally used deadly force against Joseph Rosenbaum, correct?

Rittenhouse: Yes.

Binger: You intentionally use deadly force against the man who came and tried to kick you in the face, correct?

Rittenhouse: Yes.

Binger: You intentionally use deadly force against Anthony Huber, correct?

Rittenhouse: Yes.

Binger: You intentionally use deadly force against Gaige Grosskreutz, correct?

Rittenhouse: Yes.

Binger: With regard to Joseph Rosenbaum, you fired four shots at him, correct?

Rittenhouse: Yes."

What? Now Blindboy is trying to cherry pick a transcript to defend a murderous child molester?

What the fuck is wrong with this world and you people? It can’t even be ideological. It’s as though you e simply picked a side and will defend it to the death even if it means lying, willfully denying the obvious facts and literally defending a murderous convicted child rapist!!!!!!!

WTF?

Blindboy….I’m saying it again - You’re either the stupidest fucker who ever drew a breath or you are plain evil. I’m betting on the former but only cause I haven’t completely lost faith in humanity altogether just yet.

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freeride76 Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 4:34pm

I haven't paid any attention to this case.

What are the basic facts?

It's in court now, so I assume these are known.

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Blowin Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 4:51pm

Freeride- The facts are that this kid was walking around a riot when a few of the rioters came up and threatened him. A convicted paedophile said he was going to kill him. The young fella ran and was chased by rioters and had objects thrown at him amd threats of violence shouted at him as he tried to get away. The convicted paedophile caught him and kicked fuck,out of him. Then he tried to grab the rifle off the boy and got shot and killed.

The boy then went to find police cause he was fearful for his life and tell them what happened. Other rioters started chasing him and threatening his life. Shots were fired at the boy. The rioters caught him again. They beat him down and one dude tried to brain him wth a skate board as a weapon- he got shot and killed - and another rioters pulled a gun at the boy who was still on the ground and got his bicep blown off.

The crew who got shot were a convicted paedophile, a convicted burglar and a convicted wife bashed. All were white. Joe Biden then called the boy a white supremacist on TV and the corporate media called him a domestic terrorist.

It’s fucked up.

The trial was overseen by a democrat appointed judge and the entire thing broadcast live. There was 30 witnesses amd multiple video shots amd it all confirmed everything the boy said. Even the surviving attacker confessed and admitted he was pointing the gun at the boy’s head.

Even worse was the FBI confiscated some of the most Impactful footage for the defence and hid it whilst the media made this boy out to be a murderer and a white supremacist. The whole thing is dodgy. Thank Christ the court case is so visibly clean.

The US is fucked up and brain dead flogs like BB and Facto are determined to import the US establishment’s poison into our country wholesale.

Watch this….a few minutes amd you’ll know the lot
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6281382129001#sp=show-clips

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sypkan Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 4:50pm

it'll only gain me ridicule... but tucker carlson lays it all out pretty well freeride...

and... withholding phone data, in a 'never seen before manner' should ring all sorts of alarm bells...

should...

I'd say on this particular case, self defence was just conceded and admitted... by the prosecutor's own star witness!

the vid (and prosecotor's reaction) is gold

https://mobile.twitter.com/thevivafrei/status/1457774701673996298

pretty cut and dry

the rest seems still murky, but...

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Blowin Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 4:54pm

Tucker Carlson is pretty good. Any adult with half a brain can feel when he over eggs shit but the truth speaks for itself.

He shows up fools pretty damn well.

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indo-dreaming Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 5:02pm
sypkan wrote:

https://mobile.twitter.com/thevivafrei/status/1457774701673996298

funny, running commentary of the trial

looks like game over... looking at the prosecuters reaction especially...

all that coaching... all that curating...

be interesting to see what happens from here

The prosecutors reaction is gold.

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Vic Local Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 5:03pm
Blowin wrote:

Tucker Carlson is pretty good. Any adult with half a brain can feel when he over eggs shit but the truth speaks for itself.

He shows up fools pretty damn well.

Did he over egg it when he started banging on about "the great replacement" like all the other white supremacists in the USA?

And does he over egg it when he argues that the January 6 insurrection was a “false flag” orchestrated by the federal government to impugn conservatives.

The guy is a nutter, and a very dangerous one at that. He encourages and excuses violent right wing domestic terrorists. That's probably why you like him so much blowin you complete tin foil hat wearing barmpot.

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freeride76 Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 5:05pm

OK.
did we get a reason why the kid is there with a semi-automatic rifle in the first place?

was he protecting a pal's business or just being a tough guy?

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Blowin Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 5:09pm
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OK.
did we get a reason why the kid is there with a semi-automatic rifle in the first place?

was he protecting a pal's business or just being a tough guy?

He was a proud young American who watched his nation being burned in violent riots and went to lend assistance to business owners. I’m not sure if he knew any of them? He was a life guard and he had his medical kit with him.

None of that is bad or evil. He was not violent. He was attacked by violent criminals and defended himself. He is victim of politics.

It’s not something I’d do but I can understand why a young bloke would do what he did.

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Blowin Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 5:12pm
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Hahahahahaha. FFS.

Triggered on Kool Aid or what, good ol' boys?

Look at this fuckwit. Paedophile lover. No wonder half the South West thinks he’s a fucken gronk. The other half just haven’t met him yet.

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Vic Local Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 5:15pm

"He is victim of politics."
You idiot blowin. This would have to be one of the stupidest things you've ever said.And it's up against some pretty stiff competition.
I hated Howard with a passion when he was PM and was thrilled when he lost his seat, but I honestly thank the turd for bringing in strong gun laws in Australia. Thanks god we don't have people like you being able to buy military style weapons like Shittenhouse did in the USA.

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JQ Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 5:16pm
Vic Local wrote:

Did he over egg it when he started banging on about "the great replacement" like all the other white supremacists in the USA?

And does he over egg it when he argues that the January 6 insurrection was a “false flag” orchestrated by the federal government to impugn conservatives.

The guy is a nutter, and a very dangerous one at that. He encourages and excuses violent right wing domestic terrorists. That's probably why you like him so much blowin you complete tin foil hat wearing barmpot.

Spot on here Vic, although I forget exactly what a barmpot is.

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Blowin Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 5:18pm
Vic Local wrote:

"He is victim of politics."
You idiot blowin. This would have to be one of the stupidest things you've ever said.And it's up against some pretty stiff competition.
I hated Howard with a passion when he was PM and was thrilled when he lost his seat, but I honestly thank the turd for bringing in strong gun laws in Australia. Thanks god we don't have people like you being able to buy military style weapons like Shittenhouse did in the USA.

I hate guns too …..but It’s lucky that Rittenhouse had his gun or else that evil paedophile would have killed him as would the other murderous thugs who thankfully got shot dead or had their arms blown off. The corporate media was right….the evening was mostly peaceful!

Vic Local would have offered to suck his way out of the situation!

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Vic Local Thursday, 11 Nov 2021 at 5:18pm

Oh and by the way blowin, calling people "paedophile lover" when all they do is criticise violent right wing extremism is straight out of the cooked right wing playbook.
It's like you've been on meth and 8Chan for 48 hours straight.