Australia - you're standing in it

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Sheepdog started the topic in Friday, 18 Sep 2020 at 11:51am

The "I can't believe it's not politics" thread.

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andy-mac Sunday, 9 Feb 2025 at 7:46pm

Condolences mate.
Heavy.....

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etarip Sunday, 9 Feb 2025 at 8:25pm

Thanks @a-mac.

Another good reminder to check in on your mates whenever you can. You don’t always know what they’re going through.

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etarip Sunday, 9 Feb 2025 at 8:44pm

I just read the Finals Day wrap up. After I wrote that comment above.
Steve’s comment about Tyler and her experiences hit me right in the guts. So real.
Check in on your mates.

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Distracted Monday, 10 Feb 2025 at 7:35am
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Haven't had time to catch up with thread (Pipe) but I'll drop this here

All the answers are contained within

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGHEHROTaZs

VJ, I get the strategic points. But don’t you think there is a risk that that the sub tech can become outdated?
Ukraine has made a mess of the Russian Black Sea fleet with drones despite limited air cover. Underwater drone technology will also advance and in a few years it may not be too difficult to take out nuke subs after AUS has put all its eggs in the one nuclear basket?

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etarip Monday, 10 Feb 2025 at 4:54pm

Distracted, good questions. I don’t have the answers, but a couple of points:
Drone technology is being planned to augment crewed ships / subs, as well as to attack them. From what I understand it might look like a screen of protective underwater drones around the mothership. Also used to scout ahead, or undertake shallow water tasks. There will be a cycle of action and counter action in the development which will favour either side of the equation at different points along the journey.

The second point is that China isn’t seeing the trend toward subs being obsolete. They’re building plenty, and their future is nuclear to gradually replace their existing fleet of 65 subs. 65. For a country that has a smaller coastline than NZ.

The third point is a little more abstract. If this was such a strategic blunder by Australia, a deep investment in technology that will be superseded, a decision that detracts from Australia’s defence, why is the PRC going so hard against it in almost every forum it can? Through lawfare (IAEA, NPT, etc), lobbying Pacific nations to oppose, invoking various arms treaty obligations, and a heavy investment in shaping the public debate here in Australia. If it’s such a mistake, and they anticipate that they’ll be able to counter it, why do all of this? It’s certainly not because they respect all of these international institutions. Not because they respect arms control - the PRC is not, and will not, signed up to any nuclear arms control mechanisms like the USA and USSR (now Russia) did.

There’s an old maxim, ascribed to Napoleon from memory, that if you see your adversary making a mistake you shouldn’t interrupt them. So, it makes me wonder why China cares so much.

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Exxotixjeff Monday, 10 Feb 2025 at 6:10pm

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andy-mac Friday, 14 Feb 2025 at 2:12pm

Can see Murdoch and co are trying to turn the temperature down on racial divisiveness....

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/feb/14/news-corp-team-co...

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sypkan Friday, 14 Feb 2025 at 9:12pm

a view from a 'liberal progressive'

a millenial or Z-er (?) raised on a steady diet of contemporary ip

an 'anti-fascist'

a guy that bugs me, but seems pretty balanced...

makes some good points

https://drewpavlou.substack.com/p/its-a-chernobyl-event-for-australian

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indo-dreaming Friday, 14 Feb 2025 at 10:30pm
sypkan wrote:

a view from a 'liberal progressive'

a millenial or Z-er (?) raised on a steady diet of contemporary ip

an 'anti-fascist'

a guy that bugs me, but seems pretty balanced...

makes some good points

https://drewpavlou.substack.com/p/its-a-chernobyl-event-for-australian

If it was just one guy or girl you could say, it was just one bad apple.

But two bad apples, same place, same time with same thought's, and not even a hint of apprehension from either, or a suggesting to the other that hey maybe this isn't a good idea, we are at work our faces exposed any screen can be recording us..

What's the chances there is a lot more bad apples like this in the healthcare system?

And in other news today..

"Dozens injured as car rams into crowd in Munich — how it unfolded"

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-14/dozens-injured-car-rams-crowd-mun...

Multiculturalism hasn't failed take Chinese and Indians by far out biggest migrant group after UK, but barely make a bad news story.

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basesix Friday, 14 Feb 2025 at 10:33pm

I would argue
that multiculturalism can be just as flawed
as integration, either can be handled incompetently.
nice people have always practiced a calm pluralism,
and not been scared of things, been confident in themselves,
and interested in others and understanding of difference.

the good news is,
we catch racist cunts now.
we know who the anti-woke fucktards are,
and we can see the hysterical progressive-for-its-own-sakers,
for the unimpressive busy-bodies they are.
we see them all.

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seeds Friday, 14 Feb 2025 at 10:40pm

Geez basesix
You’ve the patience of a saint

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basesix Friday, 14 Feb 2025 at 10:43pm

^ just a quote from Tom Tilley's Speaking in Tongues.. cheers, mate : )

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seeds Friday, 14 Feb 2025 at 10:48pm

;)

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southernraw Monday, 24 Feb 2025 at 12:16am

Aussie, Aussie, Aussie....as weak as pisseridoo.
Oi?
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/163Y18CH6M/

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Hiccups Monday, 24 Feb 2025 at 9:20pm

Have a go at this pond scum scum of a bloke would ya?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-24/bruce-lehrmann-in-hobart-court-ca...

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seeds Monday, 24 Feb 2025 at 10:26pm

Yes Hiccups
Had a chuckle about that today. How the hell does he afford another lawyer? Who the hell would take him on?

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Supafreak Monday, 24 Feb 2025 at 10:50pm
seeds wrote:

Yes Hiccups
Had a chuckle about that today. How the hell does he afford another lawyer? Who the hell would take him on?

He must have the dirt on a few LNP members , probably videos of the prayer room practices , nothing would surprise me . His court cases seem to get dragged out , I think a special hearing on a judge only trial application is set down for late March in his next rape trial . https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-01-23/bruce-lehrmann-judge-only-trial/1...

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seeds Monday, 24 Feb 2025 at 11:11pm

You might be right. Can’t understand why a pleb like this dirt bag can hire representation. Where the $$$ come from? Nepo baby?

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GuySmiley Tuesday, 25 Feb 2025 at 8:54am

Heard about this statistic yesterday. A few years ago 2 coppers working out of Dandenong Police Station told me that 60% of their work every day of the year involved intervening in DV incidents. Can you imagine getting ready to go to work every morning knowing the absolute dregs of society you had to deal with? This problem wouldn't be only in Vicco but AU wide

https://www.police.vic.gov.au/police-make-record-family-violence-arrests

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seaslug Tuesday, 25 Feb 2025 at 12:10pm

and these absolute dregs of society might be your work colleague, your local GP, you mate the legend who's such a good surfer etc the list goes on

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andy-mac Tuesday, 25 Feb 2025 at 1:47pm
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garyg1412 Tuesday, 25 Feb 2025 at 1:52pm
GuySmiley wrote:

Heard about this statistic yesterday. A few years ago 2 coppers working out of Dandenong Police Station told me that 60% of their work every day of the year involved intervening in DV incidents. Can you imagine getting ready to go to work every morning knowing the absolute dregs of society you had to deal with? This problem wouldn't be only in Vicco but AU wide

https://www.police.vic.gov.au/police-make-record-family-violence-arrests

If you want a short and unsatisfying career work in one of these areas:
1) Police Force
2) Legal Aid
3) Child Protection Services
4) Real Estate Rentals

I have friends and family that work in all four and some of the stories I hear about are beyond comprehension.
The human race is evolving so they say!!!

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Supafreak Tuesday, 25 Feb 2025 at 2:18pm
seeds wrote:

You might be right. Can’t understand why a pleb like this dirt bag can hire representation. Where the $$$ come from? Nepo baby?

Brucey’s lawyers were working for no win no pay . Ordered to pay 2 million by the courts. Getting blood from a stone is a bit of a problem . https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-25/network-ten-lisa-wilkinson-court-... https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-08/bruce-lehrmann-no-fee-defamation-...

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seeds Tuesday, 25 Feb 2025 at 2:59pm

Well bugger me. One would think these legal types would have a bit more smarts when deciding to defend that arsehole.
So channel 7 paid his rent and now 10 are paying his legal fees.
I’m keen to see the outcome of his Toowoomba proceedings.

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andy-mac Tuesday, 25 Feb 2025 at 8:55pm

Na reckon he just got lucky...
Smart business man ol Spud.

https://www.betootaadvocate.com/headlines/so-heres-margot-robbie-in-a-bu...