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factotum started the topic in Thursday, 27 Aug 2020 at 11:12am

Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank

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southernraw Saturday, 1 Feb 2025 at 10:01pm
Exxotixjeff wrote:
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btw, just on the Meidas channel
When Donald entered and won the presidency, i was searching for some soothing words of comfort in the 'media' so was drawn to the Meidas channel for the two or three days around all that.
Didn't take long though to realise they were a) manipulating a cohort of anti trump/anti-republican crew and b) kinda full of alot of shit. Alot of the vids had sensational headlines followed with snoozefest, mundane gotchya moments. Having said that, i agree with alot of what Jeffrey says in regards to the Dems and the Pubs. Alot especially since Trump has entered the vortex and his power moves are basically normalised, when in reality, it's pretty bloody extreme. Gonna be interesting viewing from here on. Care factor? 1/10

Agreed there is bias on those pro democracy channels ,
However they were warning what was going to happen if Trump was elected for months,

And if anything they actually underestimated the intent of MAGA
Yes if Biden threatened to invade allies , and freeze virtually all funding
He’d be gone
But with Trump just another, normalised tactic.

Fair points and agreed.

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Exxotixjeff Saturday, 1 Feb 2025 at 10:06pm
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Jeffy , you are , without doubt , the dumbest person to ever grace the pages of Swellnet . https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/capitol-police-officer-br...

Are you absolutely being serious
Your saying getting sprayed in the face multiple times with pepper or bear spray is a natural occurrence.
Your as twisted as the right wing media
But don’t worry you’ll all work it out
Irony plus there

You just confirmed how dumb you are , read what the medical examiners findings were .

You just confirmed how dumb you are, believing the medical examiner’s in that system,
Come on if someone gets sprayed in the face multiple times, with toxic spray,
I’m not going to waste my time with someone trying to tell me there’s nothing wrong with that.

There you go again jeffy , making shit up , where have I said pepper spraying someone is ok ? If you choose not to believe the chief medical examiners report , that’s up to you . Point is the two guys weren’t charged with murder, so how could they possibly be pardoned for being cop killers ? You said cop killers were pardoned in your little list , just something you have made up ……… again . I understand your delusions are real to you but nobody else believes them, well I certainly don’t .

Well wether they could prove wether the guy actually killed him or not, they certainly looked like a mob of murderouse thugs
If you watched a video,
Despite what the examiner said, I think I’ll be avoiding mace/ pepper/ bear: toxic spray.
Yeah same to you insult insult everything your own way
Yeah what did happen there?

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Supafreak Saturday, 1 Feb 2025 at 10:07pm

Jeffy on the lookout for pepper sprayers. IMG-0070

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 1 Feb 2025 at 10:13pm
southernraw wrote:

btw, just on the Meidas channel
When Donald entered and won the presidency, i was searching for some soothing words of comfort in the 'media' so was drawn to the Meidas channel for the two or three days around all that.
Didn't take long though to realise they were a) manipulating a cohort of anti trump/anti-republican crew and b) kinda full of alot of shit. Alot of the vids had sensational headlines followed with snoozefest, mundane gotchya moments. Having said that, i agree with alot of what Jeffrey says in regards to the Dems and the Pubs. Alot especially since Trump has entered the vortex and his power moves are basically normalised, when in reality, it's pretty bloody extreme. Gonna be interesting viewing from here on. Care factor? 1/10

Good on you.

I did the same thing with the Israel issue, latched onto a channel or two that i realized after a while was just to over the top and too bias.

You are always going to gravitate to media that you agree with to some extent, but it becomes kind of pointless when it's so over the top total/bias that you are only hearing things you want to hear, if you aren't hearing some things you dont want to hear it's most likely just a propaganda channel.

It's hard sometimes but i even try to listen to a few sources now and then that go against my views like Al Jazera or CNN for USA politics just to get a different take or even to try understand why or how other's are seeing things differently.

Otherwise you just become like Jeffy.

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southernraw Saturday, 1 Feb 2025 at 10:21pm

Stop it @indodreaming!
You and i aren't allowed to align with the same thinking twice in 12 months!!!!
hehe.
Cheers man. Even though i disagree with you in principle on most of everything, i can see your inherent intent is good, so who am i to judge that!?
Good on you!

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burleigh Saturday, 1 Feb 2025 at 11:08pm
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Jeffy , you are , without doubt , the dumbest person to ever grace the pages of Swellnet . https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/capitol-police-officer-br...

Nah, dumbest is burleigh. Miles ahead of Jeffy.

Not going to lie, this is the nicest thing you’ve ever said to/about me.

We’re moving in the right direction Dill.

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truebluebasher Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 1:18am

US Diversity Table
$Govt buys % Diversity (vs) Defence employs US Res Only
$Govt Group ....Women Men White Latino Black Asian
...........US Pop......50.5....49.5.....58......19.......12........6
27% Uni..............59........41........41.......18.......11........6
43% Tesla...........22.5....77.5....36.......27.......11......20 (Constant Racism / Bullying / Sexism) DEI suits.
25% Space X.....14.........86.......50.......25.........8.........9 (Defence? US res Only) = No Reffos
82% WMD..........30........70........57......15.......15........9 (Defence US Res Only)
Air T Control.......22........78.......71.......14.........8.........3 (Fully Able / Alert in National ATC Tower Always)

MUSK Banners [DEI MUST DIE] [DEI = Racism] [DEI = Morally Wrong]

Dec-Jan 2025 FAA Record # Invasion of Nightly Automated Security / Traffic / Drone Trials
Washington / Philadelphia (FAA Drone zones share same Tragedy Locations / Time Period)
Trump : Golf Course Drone Trials / Record # Fireworks in same Locale & Time Period

Prez : FAA Various Other Reason nightly Jones trials in time got worse ...{CRASH}
Prez : DC No Fly Zone @ Presidential Drone Trial Crash Zone
Prez : FAA Diversity Killed Everyone on board

FAA = Zero Tolerance / 100% Alertness & Fully Able Policy!

Notes
Prez will out any # International Diverse Alien Airport Window Cleaners triggering Tragedy
White House Nat Defence Airport will Mandate US Res Only Airport Staff Compliance
Report will recommend Nat Security White House Security Drone Patrols
Thereby any Drone Trial being National Security Priority exempting retrospective-future incidents!

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Hiccups Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 3:06am
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wow!

it's happening...

tomorrow, confirmed

little justy be having an existential crisis right about now...

(thats two within a month)

https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1885412187960684611

Look, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the amount of fentanyl going in to the U.S from Canada quite minor. Like, real minor? If so, what's the end game here, force Canada become the 51st state?

I’m no expert but I thought the tariffs on Mexico & Canada were because of trade imbalances and illegal immigration . China was being blamed for the fetanyl distribution . Trump brags that the US has more oil than anyone but their refineries aren’t geared for the type they mainly use , does he plan on changing their refineries ? Trump is all about making deals so it’s going to take leaders that are very clever in their approach to dealing with his ego and at the same time not allowing him to walk over them . His biggest gripe seems to be other countries taking advantage of the US and the US losing out because of it . His supporters lap that up .

The bigger picture here is clear: corporate America needs to make stuff at home or face pain over the next 4 years. I personally have doubts about this strategy. Corporations can run a marathon while politicians need to squeeze as much as possible in their 4 year term. But at the end of the day, we have a protectionist instead of a globalist as the president of the US. This hasn’t happened in decades and the world forgot about tactics to deal with this.

@hiccups , here’s the latest from Trumps Gal on the reasons for tariffs . Not the answer I was expecting .

"In Fiscal Year 2024, USCBP seized 21,148 pounds of fentanyl at the southwest border, mostly smuggled from Mexico. In contrast, only 43 pounds were intercepted at the northern border. This means that less than 1% of all fentanyl seizures occurred at the U.S.-Canada border.

Furthermore, drug flows are not a one-way street. In 2024, the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) seized approximately 10.8 pounds of fentanyl coming into Canada from the United States. In comparison, CBSA reported that 17.6 pounds of fentanyl were smuggled from Canada into the U.S. This suggests that the trafficking issue is not as one-sided as the administration claims.

According to Vanda Felbab-Brown, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, "There is no indication at all that any significant amount of fentanyl is coming to the United States from Canada." Most fentanyl entering the U.S. comes from Mexico, often using chemical precursors from China. Canada is experiencing its own fentanyl crisis, but it is not a major supplier of the drug to the United States."

"... the migration flow is not one-sided. In 2023, the last year for which we have statistics at the moment, more people crossed illegally from the United States into Canada than in the opposite direction. With Canada experiencing a labor shortage and increasing economic opportunities, it is likely that the number of individuals moving north in 2025, both legally and illegally, will continue to surpass those moving south."

"The data shows that Canada is not a significant source of illegal immigration or fentanyl trafficking into the United States. The arguments justifying the 25% tariff are not supported by the facts."

source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/andyjsemotiuk/2025/01/31/tariff-on-canada-n...

It appears that Trump, like a few in this thread, has a real burr in his behind about Justin Trudeau and SHOCK, he's using porkies to pull it out.

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indo-dreaming wrote:
southernraw wrote:

btw, just on the Meidas channel
When Donald entered and won the presidency, i was searching for some soothing words of comfort in the 'media' so was drawn to the Meidas channel for the two or three days around all that.
Didn't take long though to realise they were a) manipulating a cohort of anti trump/anti-republican crew and b) kinda full of alot of shit. Alot of the vids had sensational headlines followed with snoozefest, mundane gotchya moments. Having said that, i agree with alot of what Jeffrey says in regards to the Dems and the Pubs. Alot especially since Trump has entered the vortex and his power moves are basically normalised, when in reality, it's pretty bloody extreme. Gonna be interesting viewing from here on. Care factor? 1/10

Good on you.

I did the same thing with the Israel issue, latched onto a channel or two that i realized after a while was just to over the top and too bias.

You are always going to gravitate to media that you agree with to some extent, but it becomes kind of pointless when it's so over the top total/bias that you are only hearing things you want to hear, if you aren't hearing some things you dont want to hear it's most likely just a propaganda channel.

It's hard sometimes but i even try to listen to a few sources now and then that go against my views like Al Jazera or CNN for USA politics just to get a different take or even to try understand why or how other's are seeing things differently.

Otherwise you just become like Jeffy.

JeffyBhoy or Shingles, both = AwfulPain!

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Exxotixjeff Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 8:05am
indo-dreaming wrote:
southernraw wrote:

btw, just on the Meidas channel
When Donald entered and won the presidency, i was searching for some soothing words of comfort in the 'media' so was drawn to the Meidas channel for the two or three days around all that.
Didn't take long though to realise they were a) manipulating a cohort of anti trump/anti-republican crew and b) kinda full of alot of shit. Alot of the vids had sensational headlines followed with snoozefest, mundane gotchya moments. Having said that, i agree with alot of what Jeffrey says in regards to the Dems and the Pubs. Alot especially since Trump has entered the vortex and his power moves are basically normalised, when in reality, it's pretty bloody extreme. Gonna be interesting viewing from here on. Care factor? 1/10

Good on you.

I did the same thing with the Israel issue, latched onto a channel or two that i realized after a while was just to over the top and too bias.

You are always going to gravitate to media that you agree with to some extent, but it becomes kind of pointless when it's so over the top total/bias that you are only hearing things you want to hear, if you aren't hearing some things you dont want to hear it's most likely just a propaganda channel.

It's hard sometimes but i even try to listen to a few sources now and then that go against my views like Al Jazera or CNN for USA politics just to get a different take or even to try understand why or how other's are seeing things differently.

Otherwise you just become like Jeffy.

Otherwise you become like @Indo quite excited and optimistic and waiting patiently for Donald to do some good in the world,
Like he said he wanted to do .
I reckon Monty Python should make a movie , “ Indo and theMAGA mind “

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GuySmiley Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 8:51am

^^ I think they already have, haha
https://m.

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indo-dreaming Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 9:06am
Exxotixjeff wrote:
indo-dreaming wrote:
southernraw wrote:

btw, just on the Meidas channel
When Donald entered and won the presidency, i was searching for some soothing words of comfort in the 'media' so was drawn to the Meidas channel for the two or three days around all that.
Didn't take long though to realise they were a) manipulating a cohort of anti trump/anti-republican crew and b) kinda full of alot of shit. Alot of the vids had sensational headlines followed with snoozefest, mundane gotchya moments. Having said that, i agree with alot of what Jeffrey says in regards to the Dems and the Pubs. Alot especially since Trump has entered the vortex and his power moves are basically normalised, when in reality, it's pretty bloody extreme. Gonna be interesting viewing from here on. Care factor? 1/10

Good on you.

I did the same thing with the Israel issue, latched onto a channel or two that i realized after a while was just to over the top and too bias.

You are always going to gravitate to media that you agree with to some extent, but it becomes kind of pointless when it's so over the top total/bias that you are only hearing things you want to hear, if you aren't hearing some things you dont want to hear it's most likely just a propaganda channel.

It's hard sometimes but i even try to listen to a few sources now and then that go against my views like Al Jazera or CNN for USA politics just to get a different take or even to try understand why or how other's are seeing things differently.

Otherwise you just become like Jeffy.

Otherwise you become like @Indo quite excited and optimistic and waiting patiently for Donald to do some good in the world,
Like he said he wanted to do .
I reckon Monty Python should make a movie , “ Indo and theMAGA mind “

No need to wait he is already doing all kinds of good things.

Just reversing Biden's policies is a huge step forward.

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truebluebasher Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 9:38am

Not sure if crew know this but there is a Morphine & Fentanyl shortage due to Covid.
The drugs are desperately needed in hospitals to relieve pain & breathlessness in patients.
Nebulized Fentanyl has superior effect in improving shortness of breath and relieving cough compared to normal Saline...coincidentally also in short supply...

Fentanyl Nebulizer has beneficial effect in improving shortness of breath in patients with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. The proposed theory behind that was that Fentanyl deceased the rate of spontaneous respiratory rate, diminished the brain stem Chemoreceptor to Hypoxia and Hypercarbia, in addition to it's advantageous throat pain relief, while exhibiting fewer side effects in patients with Covid 19 infection.

Fentanyl is the Primary drug used in Deep Sedation for IVF / Intubation patients

2018-19 Washington DC Kids Hospital (Fentanyl Review) 20k vials/yr ( 60% waste = $2m )

April-Sept 2020 (Early Covid) saw 2 fold increase in Ontario...( Note seemingly the World over)

May 2020 : Not long into Pandemic they Started flagging potential Fentanyl shortage...
https://www.medsafe.govt.nz/medicines/policy-statements/COVID19/COVID19F...

Continues to here & now (Shortage Notices)

Jan 2025 (Current) Never-ending Global Opioid / ALL Med Shortage ...
Shortage of Over 420 drugs needed in Australia...AMA calling for pre Election Emergency Forum.
(Typical Example of the Fentanyl Drug crew are flagging...)
It's actually listed as #1 or often in Top 3 Drug shortages...

Shortage Fentanyl Tablets SANDOZ
Shortage Fentanyl Injections JUNO
Shortage Fentanyl Patches (Durogesic)
Further Shortages Anticipated due to supply constraints for increased demand

(Due to an ongoing 'censored' Covid Pandemic) Shh...nothing to see move along! (Cough!)

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truebluebasher wrote:

Not sure if crew know this but there is a Morphine & Fentanyl shortage due to Covid.
The drugs are desperately needed in hospitals to relieve pain & breathlessness in patients.
Nebulized Fentanyl has superior effect in improving shortness of breath and relieving cough compared to normal Saline...coincidentally also in short supply...

Fentanyl Nebulizer has beneficial effect in improving shortness of breath in patients with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. The proposed theory behind that was that Fentanyl deceased the rate of spontaneous respiratory rate, diminished the brain stem Chemoreceptor to Hypoxia and Hypercarbia, in addition to it's advantageous throat pain relief, while exhibiting fewer side effects in patients with Covid 19 infection.

Fentanyl is the Primary drug used in Deep Sedation for IVF / Intubation patients

2018-19 Washington DC Kids Hospital (Fentanyl Review) 20k vials/yr ( 60% waste = $2m )

April-Sept 2020 (Early Covid) saw 2 fold increase in Ontario...( Note seemingly the World over)

May 2020 : Not long into Pandemic they Started flagging potential Fentanyl shortage...
https://www.medsafe.govt.nz/medicines/policy-statements/COVID19/COVID19F...

Continues to here & now (Shortage Notices)

Jan 2025 (Current) Never-ending Global Opioid / ALL Med Shortage ...
Shortage of Over 420 drugs needed in Australia...AMA calling for pre Election Emergency Forum.
(Typical Example of the Fentanyl Drug crew are flagging...)
It's actually listed as #1 or often in Top 3 Drug shortages...

Shortage Fentanyl Tablets SANDOZ
Shortage Fentanyl Injections JUNO
Shortage Fentanyl Patches (Durogesic)
Further Shortages Anticipated due to supply constraints for increased demand

(Due to an ongoing 'censored' Covid Pandemic) Shh...nothing to see move along! (Cough!)

Plenty of Fentanyl, just go out on the streets anywhere in USA.All the drug selling gangs that came over the Meckico the border in the last 4 years will sell you as much as you like.They will also sell you weapons, link you with terrorists and give you whatever disease you like.

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Roadkill Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 11:05am

The best Trump ever with Joe Biden.

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If anyone has an issue with this you need your head checked:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/01/fact-sheet-president-dona...

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Roadkill Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 12:14pm

As a response to imposed tariffs I would like to see countries actually enforce their accounting laws to tax big tech. Amazon, AWS, Facebook, Microsoft, Oracle Google etc etc move so much $$ transactions to other locations thus reducing their reported earnings and thus taxable earnings.

I have been charged GST (as a local Aus tax) to have something shipped from the US from eBay. Under $1k but they still charge and you can’t talk or get a response.
So you either don’t get it or just suck it up and pay the thieving dogs..and there is zero chance that so called GST is passed on to the ato.

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Roadkill wrote:

As a response to imposed tariffs I would like to see countries actually enforce their accounting laws to tax big tech. Amazon, AWS, Facebook, Microsoft, Oracle Google etc etc move so much $$ transactions to other locations thus reducing their reported earnings and thus taxable earnings.

I have been charged GST (as a local Aus tax) to have something shipped from the US from eBay. Under $1k but they still charge and you can’t talk or get a response.
So you either don’t get it or just suck it up and pay the thieving dogs..and there is zero chance that so called GST is passed on to the ato.

Man you’re tight. I bet it was still cheaper than buying it direct from Aus but still you whinge about 10%.

It was clearly an Australian registered business. You’ve won the whinging Karen Award for 2025 already

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Roadkill wrote:

As a response to imposed tariffs I would like to see countries actually enforce their accounting laws to tax big tech. Amazon, AWS, Facebook, Microsoft, Oracle Google etc etc move so much $$ transactions to other locations thus reducing their reported earnings and thus taxable earnings.

I have been charged GST (as a local Aus tax) to have something shipped from the US from eBay. Under $1k but they still charge and you can’t talk or get a response.
So you either don’t get it or just suck it up and pay the thieving dogs..and there is zero chance that so called GST is passed on to the ato.

Man you’re tight. I bet it was still cheaper than buying it direct from Aus but still you whinge about 10%.

It was clearly an Australian registered business. You’ve won the whinging Karen Award for 2025 already

The message, Burl’s. Not the messenger.
That you don’t understand is no surprise.

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velocityjohnno Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 12:25pm

Australia has a tax treaty with US for investment purposes. Don't know if this would significantly change, as they still want to attract the world's capital to Wall St

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velocityjohnno Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 12:44pm

OK, so we've had tariffs on Canada (?), Mexico and China. It's been difficult to get balanced search results off the main search engines, for me they lead to the US MSM (like ABC, CNN, MSNBC etc) and they tend to be running less themes than what's actually happening. And there's a lot happening. Even those NYP links I found, I had to search for NYP to get there, it doesn't readily come up in the results.

So I went digging for alternate & 'pro trump' news. This should be the last one I'll do for a while, safe to assume 'disruption' in future news. What did I find?

Musk outlines plan to cut 4Bn per day in FY26 spending with DOGE:
https://wltreport.com/2025/02/01/musk-outlines-doges-plan-cut-4-billion-...

They are 'twittering' the US Gov.
https://x.com/Geiger_Capital/status/1885478371963879535?mx=2

EU Tariffs foreshadowed:
https://x.com/Inevitablewest/status/1885442016076578817?mx=2

Arrest of former Fed official, this reads like perhaps passing on Fed future actions to an adversary:
https://wltreport.com/2025/01/31/justice-department-announces-arrest-for...

Also: yes/no? to Dept of Ag inspector general being escorted out of her job by security, refusing to go, depends on source
Senior OPM staff have been locked out of access to fed gov employee databases.

Colombia pres encouraging illegal immigrant countrypeople to return, offering loans to start businesses in Colombia when they return:

https://wltreport.com/2025/01/31/colombian-president-asks-undocumented-m...

6 hostages in Venezuela negotiated and freed very quickly, this one's from NYT:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/31/us/politics/us-prisoners-venezuela.html

And that'll be it from me for a while, let's see how NY opens late Monday our time with the thrill of tariffs on the EU...

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Roadkill wrote:
burleigh wrote:
Roadkill wrote:

As a response to imposed tariffs I would like to see countries actually enforce their accounting laws to tax big tech. Amazon, AWS, Facebook, Microsoft, Oracle Google etc etc move so much $$ transactions to other locations thus reducing their reported earnings and thus taxable earnings.

I have been charged GST (as a local Aus tax) to have something shipped from the US from eBay. Under $1k but they still charge and you can’t talk or get a response.
So you either don’t get it or just suck it up and pay the thieving dogs..and there is zero chance that so called GST is passed on to the ato.

Man you’re tight. I bet it was still cheaper than buying it direct from Aus but still you whinge about 10%.

It was clearly an Australian registered business. You’ve won the whinging Karen Award for 2025 already

The message, Burl’s. Not the messenger.
That you don’t understand is no surprise.

I heard that you wouldn’t shout if a shark bit you Dill.

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I focus Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 1:11pm
Hiccups wrote:
Supafreak wrote:
flollo wrote:
Supafreak wrote:
Hiccups wrote:
sypkan wrote:

wow!

it's happening...

tomorrow, confirmed

little justy be having an existential crisis right about now...

(thats two within a month)

https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1885412187960684611

Look, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the amount of fentanyl going in to the U.S from Canada quite minor. Like, real minor? If so, what's the end game here, force Canada become the 51st state?

I’m no expert but I thought the tariffs on Mexico & Canada were because of trade imbalances and illegal immigration . China was being blamed for the fetanyl distribution . Trump brags that the US has more oil than anyone but their refineries aren’t geared for the type they mainly use , does he plan on changing their refineries ? Trump is all about making deals so it’s going to take leaders that are very clever in their approach to dealing with his ego and at the same time not allowing him to walk over them . His biggest gripe seems to be other countries taking advantage of the US and the US losing out because of it . His supporters lap that up .

The bigger picture here is clear: corporate America needs to make stuff at home or face pain over the next 4 years. I personally have doubts about this strategy. Corporations can run a marathon while politicians need to squeeze as much as possible in their 4 year term. But at the end of the day, we have a protectionist instead of a globalist as the president of the US. This hasn’t happened in decades and the world forgot about tactics to deal with this.

@hiccups , here’s the latest from Trumps Gal on the reasons for tariffs . Not the answer I was expecting .

"In Fiscal Year 2024, USCBP seized 21,148 pounds of fentanyl at the southwest border, mostly smuggled from Mexico. In contrast, only 43 pounds were intercepted at the northern border. This means that less than 1% of all fentanyl seizures occurred at the U.S.-Canada border.

Furthermore, drug flows are not a one-way street. In 2024, the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) seized approximately 10.8 pounds of fentanyl coming into Canada from the United States. In comparison, CBSA reported that 17.6 pounds of fentanyl were smuggled from Canada into the U.S. This suggests that the trafficking issue is not as one-sided as the administration claims.

According to Vanda Felbab-Brown, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, "There is no indication at all that any significant amount of fentanyl is coming to the United States from Canada." Most fentanyl entering the U.S. comes from Mexico, often using chemical precursors from China. Canada is experiencing its own fentanyl crisis, but it is not a major supplier of the drug to the United States."

"... the migration flow is not one-sided. In 2023, the last year for which we have statistics at the moment, more people crossed illegally from the United States into Canada than in the opposite direction. With Canada experiencing a labor shortage and increasing economic opportunities, it is likely that the number of individuals moving north in 2025, both legally and illegally, will continue to surpass those moving south."

"The data shows that Canada is not a significant source of illegal immigration or fentanyl trafficking into the United States. The arguments justifying the 25% tariff are not supported by the facts."

source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/andyjsemotiuk/2025/01/31/tariff-on-canada-n...

It appears that Trump, like a few in this thread, has a real burr in his behind about Justin Trudeau and SHOCK, he's using porkies to pull it out.

Seen this the other day make of it what you will.

https://www.mauldineconomics.com/download/global-macro-update-transcript...

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Hiccups Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 1:17pm
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Jeffy, look at it like this

The Republicans are lying corrupt self serving religious assholes.

The Dems are lying corrupt self serving religious assholes.

Fox News is far Right and the propaganda wing for the Republicans.

The Meidas Network is far left and the propaganda wing for the Dems.

Biden was past his use by date and used the office to enrich himself and his family and other hangers on.

Trump is near his use by date and using the office to enrich himself and his family and other hangers on.

Trump has taken corruption and grift to a higher level than ever before.

Same same but different different.

Trump will do some good things but will be a complete disaster and history will probably record him as the worst US President and the biggest piece of democratically elected shit ever.

That’s a pretty fair & simple summary . History will be the final judge .

Except that already Trump has let out of jail hundreds of violent insurrectionists and cop killers. Unprecedented
Sacked 12 Investigators generals
Unprecedented
Called a complete freeze on nearly all federal. funding and loans
Confirmed the most unqualified and dangerous cabinet picks in history,
Sacked the chairman of the AAF and not
replaced him , (aviation)
Blamed DEI , for a tragic plane crash , before any investigations at all , to deflect attention from his. cutbacks . This was the first 2 weeks
If Biden had done any of these things he would have been howled out of the country.
So the both as bad as each other, mantra
Is actually complete bullshit if you took a second look at it.

Cop killers released , I stopped at that one . Keep an eye out for the men in the white coats jeffy .

And Hiccups says Jeffys views are not extreme.

These are not "extreme" of radical left views. These are facts. Yeah, jeff is vehemently anti-Trump, but that opinion is not exclusive to people on the left, right, centre, or politically agnostic. Jeffy is on the extreme carriage of the Trump hate train, and I'll happily admit that if he's trying to change anyone's mind, he's going about it the wrong way, but he's not in here espousing left wing solutions and ideologies. If they're in the videos he posts then your claims may have some credence, but I'm not watching those. I don't think anyone is.

Really, how could anyone but the most dyed in the wool magats and weird cunts from the Gold Coast not have at least some negative opinions about Cheeto, the demented, too much-makeup wearing megalomaniac? American governments, both republican and democrat have historically been crooked af, but Trumpo's been seething for four years waiting for his chance to exact revenge, cos ego, and that's gonna involve being as crooked as a dog's hind leg, Owen Wilson's nose and Craig Anderson's back leg

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flollo Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 1:28pm
velocityjohnno wrote:

OK, so we've had tariffs on Canada (?), Mexico and China. It's been difficult to get balanced search results off the main search engines, for me they lead to the US MSM (like ABC, CNN, MSNBC etc) and they tend to be running less themes than what's actually happening. And there's a lot happening. Even those NYP links I found, I had to search for NYP to get there, it doesn't readily come up in the results.

So I went digging for alternate & 'pro trump' news. This should be the last one I'll do for a while, safe to assume 'disruption' in future news. What did I find?

Musk outlines plan to cut 4Bn per day in FY26 spending with DOGE:
https://wltreport.com/2025/02/01/musk-outlines-doges-plan-cut-4-billion-...

They are 'twittering' the US Gov.
https://x.com/Geiger_Capital/status/1885478371963879535?mx=2

EU Tariffs foreshadowed:
https://x.com/Inevitablewest/status/1885442016076578817?mx=2

Arrest of former Fed official, this reads like perhaps passing on Fed future actions to an adversary:
https://wltreport.com/2025/01/31/justice-department-announces-arrest-for...

Also: yes/no? to Dept of Ag inspector general being escorted out of her job by security, refusing to go, depends on source
Senior OPM staff have been locked out of access to fed gov employee databases.

Colombia pres encouraging illegal immigrant countrypeople to return, offering loans to start businesses in Colombia when they return:

https://wltreport.com/2025/01/31/colombian-president-asks-undocumented-m...

6 hostages in Venezuela negotiated and freed very quickly, this one's from NYT:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/31/us/politics/us-prisoners-venezuela.html

And that'll be it from me for a while, let's see how NY opens late Monday our time with the thrill of tariffs on the EU...

VJ, all these discussions about border controls etc are a bit of smoke and mirrors. Trump’s wet dream is to replace income tax with tariffs. He would do it with sales tax/GST/VAT but that’s sitting with states in the US. Tariffs are his obvious choice due to ease of implementation. I don’t expect this to work. Prepare for volatility.

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velocityjohnno Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 1:58pm

Tend to agree: replace income tax with tariffs/duties. If you study your early US Republic, it was almost totally funded this way. Income tax came in at around the same time (1913) the Fed was created. Much smaller Fed govt as it originally was and funded the way it originally was. Prepare for volatility indeed.

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A Salty Dog Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 2:00pm
flollo wrote:
velocityjohnno wrote:

OK, so we've had tariffs on Canada (?), Mexico and China. It's been difficult to get balanced search results off the main search engines, for me they lead to the US MSM (like ABC, CNN, MSNBC etc) and they tend to be running less themes than what's actually happening. And there's a lot happening. Even those NYP links I found, I had to search for NYP to get there, it doesn't readily come up in the results.

So I went digging for alternate & 'pro trump' news. This should be the last one I'll do for a while, safe to assume 'disruption' in future news. What did I find?

Musk outlines plan to cut 4Bn per day in FY26 spending with DOGE:
https://wltreport.com/2025/02/01/musk-outlines-doges-plan-cut-4-billion-...

They are 'twittering' the US Gov.
https://x.com/Geiger_Capital/status/1885478371963879535?mx=2

EU Tariffs foreshadowed:
https://x.com/Inevitablewest/status/1885442016076578817?mx=2

Arrest of former Fed official, this reads like perhaps passing on Fed future actions to an adversary:
https://wltreport.com/2025/01/31/justice-department-announces-arrest-for...

Also: yes/no? to Dept of Ag inspector general being escorted out of her job by security, refusing to go, depends on source
Senior OPM staff have been locked out of access to fed gov employee databases.

Colombia pres encouraging illegal immigrant countrypeople to return, offering loans to start businesses in Colombia when they return:

https://wltreport.com/2025/01/31/colombian-president-asks-undocumented-m...

6 hostages in Venezuela negotiated and freed very quickly, this one's from NYT:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/31/us/politics/us-prisoners-venezuela.html

And that'll be it from me for a while, let's see how NY opens late Monday our time with the thrill of tariffs on the EU...

VJ, all these discussions about border controls etc are a bit of smoke and mirrors. Trump’s wet dream is to replace income tax with tariffs. He would do it with sales tax/GST/VAT but that’s sitting with states in the US. Tariffs are his obvious choice due to ease of implementation. I don’t expect this to work. Prepare for volatility.

The Stock market has given it's opinion.

When a new all time high was in sight, the S&P500 dropped around 1.5% upon the announcement. Clearly they don't see it as a positive.

Given Trumps use of the Stock Market as gauge for his presidency, I'm guessing there will be some "discussions between the parties", a resolution reached, and the tariffs withdrawn.

The tariff idea was never going to end well.

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burleigh Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 2:03pm
Hiccups wrote:
burleigh wrote:
Supafreak wrote:
Exxotixjeff wrote:
Supafreak wrote:
Roadkill wrote:

Jeffy, look at it like this

The Republicans are lying corrupt self serving religious assholes.

The Dems are lying corrupt self serving religious assholes.

Fox News is far Right and the propaganda wing for the Republicans.

The Meidas Network is far left and the propaganda wing for the Dems.

Biden was past his use by date and used the office to enrich himself and his family and other hangers on.

Trump is near his use by date and using the office to enrich himself and his family and other hangers on.

Trump has taken corruption and grift to a higher level than ever before.

Same same but different different.

Trump will do some good things but will be a complete disaster and history will probably record him as the worst US President and the biggest piece of democratically elected shit ever.

That’s a pretty fair & simple summary . History will be the final judge .

Except that already Trump has let out of jail hundreds of violent insurrectionists and cop killers. Unprecedented
Sacked 12 Investigators generals
Unprecedented
Called a complete freeze on nearly all federal. funding and loans
Confirmed the most unqualified and dangerous cabinet picks in history,
Sacked the chairman of the AAF and not
replaced him , (aviation)
Blamed DEI , for a tragic plane crash , before any investigations at all , to deflect attention from his. cutbacks . This was the first 2 weeks
If Biden had done any of these things he would have been howled out of the country.
So the both as bad as each other, mantra
Is actually complete bullshit if you took a second look at it.

Cop killers released , I stopped at that one . Keep an eye out for the men in the white coats jeffy .

And Hiccups says Jeffys views are not extreme.

These are not "extreme" of radical left views. These are facts. Yeah, jeff is vehemently anti-Trump, but that opinion is not exclusive to people on the left, right, centre, or politically agnostic. Jeffy is on the extreme carriage of the Trump hate train, and I'll happily admit that if he's trying to change anyone's mind, he's going about it the wrong way, but he's not in here espousing left wing solutions and ideologies. If they're in the videos he posts then your claims may have some credence, but I'm not watching those. I don't think anyone is.

Really, how could anyone but the most dyed in the wool magats and weird cunts from the Gold Coast not have at least some negative opinions about Cheeto, the demented, too much-makeup wearing megalomaniac? American governments, both republican and democrat have historically been crooked af, but Trumpo's been seething for four years waiting for his chance to exact revenge, cos ego, and that's gonna involve being as crooked as a dog's hind leg, Owen Wilson's nose and Craig Anderson's back leg

Trump is doing great things but you and eroticjeff won’t EVER comment on them.

You can’t say erotics views are not extreme if you haven’t watched the videos he’s posting.

Take your head out of the sand (or Jeff’s bum) and see what’s really going on.

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velocityjohnno Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 2:05pm

Previously in US duties history

Patriots: "How dare you tax our tea!"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party
Patriots, now in government: "What do you mean they are in rebellion to our new whiskey duties?"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Rebellion

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Hiccups Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 2:20pm
burleigh wrote:
Hiccups wrote:
burleigh wrote:
Supafreak wrote:
Exxotixjeff wrote:
Supafreak wrote:
Roadkill wrote:

Jeffy, look at it like this

The Republicans are lying corrupt self serving religious assholes.

The Dems are lying corrupt self serving religious assholes.

Fox News is far Right and the propaganda wing for the Republicans.

The Meidas Network is far left and the propaganda wing for the Dems.

Biden was past his use by date and used the office to enrich himself and his family and other hangers on.

Trump is near his use by date and using the office to enrich himself and his family and other hangers on.

Trump has taken corruption and grift to a higher level than ever before.

Same same but different different.

Trump will do some good things but will be a complete disaster and history will probably record him as the worst US President and the biggest piece of democratically elected shit ever.

That’s a pretty fair & simple summary . History will be the final judge .

Except that already Trump has let out of jail hundreds of violent insurrectionists and cop killers. Unprecedented
Sacked 12 Investigators generals
Unprecedented
Called a complete freeze on nearly all federal. funding and loans
Confirmed the most unqualified and dangerous cabinet picks in history,
Sacked the chairman of the AAF and not
replaced him , (aviation)
Blamed DEI , for a tragic plane crash , before any investigations at all , to deflect attention from his. cutbacks . This was the first 2 weeks
If Biden had done any of these things he would have been howled out of the country.
So the both as bad as each other, mantra
Is actually complete bullshit if you took a second look at it.

Cop killers released , I stopped at that one . Keep an eye out for the men in the white coats jeffy .

And Hiccups says Jeffys views are not extreme.

These are not "extreme" of radical left views. These are facts. Yeah, jeff is vehemently anti-Trump, but that opinion is not exclusive to people on the left, right, centre, or politically agnostic. Jeffy is on the extreme carriage of the Trump hate train, and I'll happily admit that if he's trying to change anyone's mind, he's going about it the wrong way, but he's not in here espousing left wing solutions and ideologies. If they're in the videos he posts then your claims may have some credence, but I'm not watching those. I don't think anyone is.

Really, how could anyone but the most dyed in the wool magats and weird cunts from the Gold Coast not have at least some negative opinions about Cheeto, the demented, too much-makeup wearing megalomaniac? American governments, both republican and democrat have historically been crooked af, but Trumpo's been seething for four years waiting for his chance to exact revenge, cos ego, and that's gonna involve being as crooked as a dog's hind leg, Owen Wilson's nose and Craig Anderson's back leg

Trump is doing great things but you and eroticjeff won’t EVER comment on them.

You can’t say erotics views are not extreme if you haven’t watched the videos he’s posting.

Take your head out of the sand (or Jeff’s bum) and see what’s really going on.

You clearly have reading comprehension issues if you gleaned that I am some sort of jeff fan from my comment. I put it to you, sir, that you have also not watched Jeffy's videos. If so, link me one with the extreme views.

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flollo Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 2:27pm
A Salty Dog wrote:
flollo wrote:
velocityjohnno wrote:

OK, so we've had tariffs on Canada (?), Mexico and China. It's been difficult to get balanced search results off the main search engines, for me they lead to the US MSM (like ABC, CNN, MSNBC etc) and they tend to be running less themes than what's actually happening. And there's a lot happening. Even those NYP links I found, I had to search for NYP to get there, it doesn't readily come up in the results.

So I went digging for alternate & 'pro trump' news. This should be the last one I'll do for a while, safe to assume 'disruption' in future news. What did I find?

Musk outlines plan to cut 4Bn per day in FY26 spending with DOGE:
https://wltreport.com/2025/02/01/musk-outlines-doges-plan-cut-4-billion-...

They are 'twittering' the US Gov.
https://x.com/Geiger_Capital/status/1885478371963879535?mx=2

EU Tariffs foreshadowed:
https://x.com/Inevitablewest/status/1885442016076578817?mx=2

Arrest of former Fed official, this reads like perhaps passing on Fed future actions to an adversary:
https://wltreport.com/2025/01/31/justice-department-announces-arrest-for...

Also: yes/no? to Dept of Ag inspector general being escorted out of her job by security, refusing to go, depends on source
Senior OPM staff have been locked out of access to fed gov employee databases.

Colombia pres encouraging illegal immigrant countrypeople to return, offering loans to start businesses in Colombia when they return:

https://wltreport.com/2025/01/31/colombian-president-asks-undocumented-m...

6 hostages in Venezuela negotiated and freed very quickly, this one's from NYT:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/31/us/politics/us-prisoners-venezuela.html

And that'll be it from me for a while, let's see how NY opens late Monday our time with the thrill of tariffs on the EU...

VJ, all these discussions about border controls etc are a bit of smoke and mirrors. Trump’s wet dream is to replace income tax with tariffs. He would do it with sales tax/GST/VAT but that’s sitting with states in the US. Tariffs are his obvious choice due to ease of implementation. I don’t expect this to work. Prepare for volatility.

The Stock market has given it's opinion.

When a new all time high was in sight, the S&P500 dropped around 1.5% upon the announcement. Clearly they don't see it as a positive.

Given Trumps use of the Stock Market as gauge for his presidency, I'm guessing there will be some "discussions between the parties", a resolution reached, and the tariffs withdrawn.

The tariff idea was never going to end well.

Of course markets don’t like this idea. Markets want free, unregulated globalised trade. And low interest rates. Trump’s philosophy will bring inflationary pressures which bring higher interest rates. Many things will go up, but in theory, you might have a lot more money in your pocket. This could work for many people but low income earners would take a hit as they don’t pay much income tax anyway.

The result: US becomes very expensive (quality areas are already extremely expensive) and citizens have top net incomes in the world. But distribution of that income will be extremely uneven. Government services are cut to the bare minimum to avoid excessive deficits due to reduction of tax receipts. And those on the lower income scale take a full brunt of these policies due to increased prices, negligible tax savings and reduced public services.

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Roadkill Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 2:27pm

He has to give exemptions to a lot of stuff coming in from Canada. Ie, The LA rebuilding will send demand and prices higher. Windows and framing will be crazy high…those with money will pay but the average everyday folk will be screwed. And Trump couldn’t care less.

It’s not looking good. Not the smartest move . Trump’s last term, Canada and Mexico signed the best trade deal and this term he now goes after them.

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burleigh Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 2:31pm
Hiccups wrote:
burleigh wrote:
Hiccups wrote:
burleigh wrote:
Supafreak wrote:
Exxotixjeff wrote:
Supafreak wrote:
Roadkill wrote:

Jeffy, look at it like this

The Republicans are lying corrupt self serving religious assholes.

The Dems are lying corrupt self serving religious assholes.

Fox News is far Right and the propaganda wing for the Republicans.

The Meidas Network is far left and the propaganda wing for the Dems.

Biden was past his use by date and used the office to enrich himself and his family and other hangers on.

Trump is near his use by date and using the office to enrich himself and his family and other hangers on.

Trump has taken corruption and grift to a higher level than ever before.

Same same but different different.

Trump will do some good things but will be a complete disaster and history will probably record him as the worst US President and the biggest piece of democratically elected shit ever.

That’s a pretty fair & simple summary . History will be the final judge .

Except that already Trump has let out of jail hundreds of violent insurrectionists and cop killers. Unprecedented
Sacked 12 Investigators generals
Unprecedented
Called a complete freeze on nearly all federal. funding and loans
Confirmed the most unqualified and dangerous cabinet picks in history,
Sacked the chairman of the AAF and not
replaced him , (aviation)
Blamed DEI , for a tragic plane crash , before any investigations at all , to deflect attention from his. cutbacks . This was the first 2 weeks
If Biden had done any of these things he would have been howled out of the country.
So the both as bad as each other, mantra
Is actually complete bullshit if you took a second look at it.

Cop killers released , I stopped at that one . Keep an eye out for the men in the white coats jeffy .

And Hiccups says Jeffys views are not extreme.

These are not "extreme" of radical left views. These are facts. Yeah, jeff is vehemently anti-Trump, but that opinion is not exclusive to people on the left, right, centre, or politically agnostic. Jeffy is on the extreme carriage of the Trump hate train, and I'll happily admit that if he's trying to change anyone's mind, he's going about it the wrong way, but he's not in here espousing left wing solutions and ideologies. If they're in the videos he posts then your claims may have some credence, but I'm not watching those. I don't think anyone is.

Really, how could anyone but the most dyed in the wool magats and weird cunts from the Gold Coast not have at least some negative opinions about Cheeto, the demented, too much-makeup wearing megalomaniac? American governments, both republican and democrat have historically been crooked af, but Trumpo's been seething for four years waiting for his chance to exact revenge, cos ego, and that's gonna involve being as crooked as a dog's hind leg, Owen Wilson's nose and Craig Anderson's back leg

Trump is doing great things but you and eroticjeff won’t EVER comment on them.

You can’t say erotics views are not extreme if you haven’t watched the videos he’s posting.

Take your head out of the sand (or Jeff’s bum) and see what’s really going on.

You clearly have reading comprehension issues if you gleaned that I am some sort of jeff fan from my comment. I put it to you, sir, that you have also not watched Jeffy's videos. If so, link me one with the extreme views.

that's not up to me champ. You've defended extreme views while admitting you have not even watched the content he's sharing.

Very odd indeed. You're getting close to the dumb fuck swellnet award.

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sypkan Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 2:34pm

as I suggested yesterday... trump just weeding the garden?

his george bush... 'you're either with us or against us moment'?

all seems a bit reckless to me

and the ego might just find itself in a corner too big for its face saving inflatedness to back out of...

https://x.com/GeopoliticsDH/status/1885368843691794558

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A Salty Dog Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 2:46pm
flollo wrote:
A Salty Dog wrote:
flollo wrote:
velocityjohnno wrote:

OK, so we've had tariffs on Canada (?), Mexico and China. It's been difficult to get balanced search results off the main search engines, for me they lead to the US MSM (like ABC, CNN, MSNBC etc) and they tend to be running less themes than what's actually happening. And there's a lot happening. Even those NYP links I found, I had to search for NYP to get there, it doesn't readily come up in the results.

So I went digging for alternate & 'pro trump' news. This should be the last one I'll do for a while, safe to assume 'disruption' in future news. What did I find?

Musk outlines plan to cut 4Bn per day in FY26 spending with DOGE:
https://wltreport.com/2025/02/01/musk-outlines-doges-plan-cut-4-billion-...

They are 'twittering' the US Gov.
https://x.com/Geiger_Capital/status/1885478371963879535?mx=2

EU Tariffs foreshadowed:
https://x.com/Inevitablewest/status/1885442016076578817?mx=2

Arrest of former Fed official, this reads like perhaps passing on Fed future actions to an adversary:
https://wltreport.com/2025/01/31/justice-department-announces-arrest-for...

Also: yes/no? to Dept of Ag inspector general being escorted out of her job by security, refusing to go, depends on source
Senior OPM staff have been locked out of access to fed gov employee databases.

Colombia pres encouraging illegal immigrant countrypeople to return, offering loans to start businesses in Colombia when they return:

https://wltreport.com/2025/01/31/colombian-president-asks-undocumented-m...

6 hostages in Venezuela negotiated and freed very quickly, this one's from NYT:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/31/us/politics/us-prisoners-venezuela.html

And that'll be it from me for a while, let's see how NY opens late Monday our time with the thrill of tariffs on the EU...

VJ, all these discussions about border controls etc are a bit of smoke and mirrors. Trump’s wet dream is to replace income tax with tariffs. He would do it with sales tax/GST/VAT but that’s sitting with states in the US. Tariffs are his obvious choice due to ease of implementation. I don’t expect this to work. Prepare for volatility.

The Stock market has given it's opinion.

When a new all time high was in sight, the S&P500 dropped around 1.5% upon the announcement. Clearly they don't see it as a positive.

Given Trumps use of the Stock Market as gauge for his presidency, I'm guessing there will be some "discussions between the parties", a resolution reached, and the tariffs withdrawn.

The tariff idea was never going to end well.

Of course markets don’t like this idea. Markets want free, unregulated globalised trade. And low interest rates. Trump’s philosophy will bring inflationary pressures which bring higher interest rates. Many things will go up, but in theory, you might have a lot more money in your pocket. This could work for many people but low income earners would take a hit as they don’t pay much income tax anyway.

The result: US becomes very expensive (quality areas are already extremely expensive) and citizens have top net incomes in the world. But distribution of that income will be extremely uneven. Government services are cut to the bare minimum to avoid excessive deficits due to reduction of tax receipts. And those on the lower income scale take a full brunt of these policies due to increased prices, negligible tax savings and reduced public services.

That seems to be the general opinion from what I've read.

In short, inflation and interest rates are market killers. Add in the removal of existing health care benefits etc for low income earners and that segment of society will suffer the most.

Trump in his first term as president had some people around him who had a good grasp of economics: not so this time around.

I'm hopeful someone will step up and convince him to be a little more realistic.

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andy-mac Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 2:56pm
sypkan wrote:

as I suggested yesterday... trump just weeding the garden?

his george bush... 'you're either with us or against us moment'?

all seems a bit reckless to me

and the ego might just find itself in a corner too big for its face saving inflatedness to back out of...

https://x.com/GeopoliticsDH/status/1885368843691794558

Sure I read lately forget source, that Brics GDP has over taken the G7's...

Trump could be setting the US up for quicker decline....

Bully in the school yard is losing his power.

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flollo Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 2:56pm
sypkan wrote:

as I suggested yesterday... trump just weeding the garden?

his george bush... 'you're either with us or against us moment'?

all seems a bit reckless to me

and the ego might just find itself in a corner too big for its face saving inflatedness to back out of...

https://x.com/GeopoliticsDH/status/1885368843691794558

I think these things don’t matter much in day to day life. Yeah, maybe we’ll live in multipolar century but that has no major effect on the life of most citizens. Personally, I’m not giving it much of my energy. Some things will change but who cares. And some might even be better.

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Hiccups Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 2:56pm
burleigh wrote:
Hiccups wrote:
burleigh wrote:
Hiccups wrote:
burleigh wrote:
Supafreak wrote:
Exxotixjeff wrote:
Supafreak wrote:
Roadkill wrote:

Jeffy, look at it like this

The Republicans are lying corrupt self serving religious assholes.

The Dems are lying corrupt self serving religious assholes.

Fox News is far Right and the propaganda wing for the Republicans.

The Meidas Network is far left and the propaganda wing for the Dems.

Biden was past his use by date and used the office to enrich himself and his family and other hangers on.

Trump is near his use by date and using the office to enrich himself and his family and other hangers on.

Trump has taken corruption and grift to a higher level than ever before.

Same same but different different.

Trump will do some good things but will be a complete disaster and history will probably record him as the worst US President and the biggest piece of democratically elected shit ever.

That’s a pretty fair & simple summary . History will be the final judge .

Except that already Trump has let out of jail hundreds of violent insurrectionists and cop killers. Unprecedented
Sacked 12 Investigators generals
Unprecedented
Called a complete freeze on nearly all federal. funding and loans
Confirmed the most unqualified and dangerous cabinet picks in history,
Sacked the chairman of the AAF and not
replaced him , (aviation)
Blamed DEI , for a tragic plane crash , before any investigations at all , to deflect attention from his. cutbacks . This was the first 2 weeks
If Biden had done any of these things he would have been howled out of the country.
So the both as bad as each other, mantra
Is actually complete bullshit if you took a second look at it.

Cop killers released , I stopped at that one . Keep an eye out for the men in the white coats jeffy .

And Hiccups says Jeffys views are not extreme.

These are not "extreme" of radical left views. These are facts. Yeah, jeff is vehemently anti-Trump, but that opinion is not exclusive to people on the left, right, centre, or politically agnostic. Jeffy is on the extreme carriage of the Trump hate train, and I'll happily admit that if he's trying to change anyone's mind, he's going about it the wrong way, but he's not in here espousing left wing solutions and ideologies. If they're in the videos he posts then your claims may have some credence, but I'm not watching those. I don't think anyone is.

Really, how could anyone but the most dyed in the wool magats and weird cunts from the Gold Coast not have at least some negative opinions about Cheeto, the demented, too much-makeup wearing megalomaniac? American governments, both republican and democrat have historically been crooked af, but Trumpo's been seething for four years waiting for his chance to exact revenge, cos ego, and that's gonna involve being as crooked as a dog's hind leg, Owen Wilson's nose and Craig Anderson's back leg

Trump is doing great things but you and eroticjeff won’t EVER comment on them.

You can’t say erotics views are not extreme if you haven’t watched the videos he’s posting.

Take your head out of the sand (or Jeff’s bum) and see what’s really going on.

You clearly have reading comprehension issues if you gleaned that I am some sort of jeff fan from my comment. I put it to you, sir, that you have also not watched Jeffy's videos. If so, link me one with the extreme views.

that's not up to me champ. You've defended extreme views while admitting you have not even watched the content he's sharing.

Very odd indeed. You're getting close to the dumb fuck swellnet award.

ok :)

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Hiccups Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 2:58pm
sypkan wrote:

as I suggested yesterday... trump just weeding the garden?

his george bush... 'you're either with us or against us moment'?

all seems a bit reckless to me

and the ego might just find itself in a corner too big for its face saving inflatedness to back out of...

https://x.com/GeopoliticsDH/status/1885368843691794558

OMG what happened to your algorithm?

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flollo Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 2:59pm
andy-mac wrote:
sypkan wrote:

as I suggested yesterday... trump just weeding the garden?

his george bush... 'you're either with us or against us moment'?

all seems a bit reckless to me

and the ego might just find itself in a corner too big for its face saving inflatedness to back out of...

https://x.com/GeopoliticsDH/status/1885368843691794558

Sure I read lately forget source, that Brics GDP has over taken the G7's...

Trump could be setting the US up for quicker decline....

Bully in the school yard is losing his power.

BRICS is adding more members so yeah, their gdp will overtake most countries/alliances at some point. But it’s a fairly fragile alliance, I don’t know scalable it is.

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andy-mac Sunday, 2 Feb 2025 at 3:39pm
flollo wrote:
andy-mac wrote:
sypkan wrote:

as I suggested yesterday... trump just weeding the garden?

his george bush... 'you're either with us or against us moment'?

all seems a bit reckless to me

and the ego might just find itself in a corner too big for its face saving inflatedness to back out of...

https://x.com/GeopoliticsDH/status/1885368843691794558

Sure I read lately forget source, that Brics GDP has over taken the G7's...

Trump could be setting the US up for quicker decline....

Bully in the school yard is losing his power.

BRICS is adding more members so yeah, their gdp will overtake most countries/alliances at some point. But it’s a fairly fragile alliance, I don’t know scalable it is.

Yeah I guess we really are entering unknown territory.
Indo has joined so it is well and truly in our neighbourhood.
The USA seems to have lost any ethical standing /leverage in the global south and will need to rely on threats and aggression to push their agenda. Trump is already demonstrating that.
These threats may be empty as they have pretty much failed with all their military adventures since Vietnam, and new ones involving China or Russia or indirectly their allies could lead to nuclear war with no winners there.
Ukraine looks to be a NATO embarrassing loss, but time will tell.
Could this actually strengthen resolve and strengthen BRICS? I think it may, the kids that have been bullied in the school yard for decades may come together??

The world has changed and I don't think the USA is the power it was a decade ago.

Also with these tarrifs if they go through, they will very much hurt working class Americans, they could have their own internal shit to deal with.

But who really knows.

Interesting times......