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Exxotixjeff wrote:flollo wrote:It had nothing to do with conservatism. Libertarian circles have advocated for his release for a long time. Both Trump and Kennedy (while a candidate) made election promises to have him released. Many argued that sentence he got was too extreme. All his convictions were for non violent crimes. He was also a first time offender. 2 x life in prison + 40 years with inability for a parole. He’s now a free man after 12 years in prison. Part of me thinks that this is enough. Especially after COVID where high level bureaucrats made life altering decisions on a population level. Everyone just brushed it off like nothing ever happened and no one was held responsible for bad decision. So yeah, I don’t mind this decision.
It could be argued that Ross Ulbricht ,was just providing a service, compared to the violent
conformity of the jan 6th delusioned .
True. I’ll agree with you on this.
burleigh wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:burleigh wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:burleigh wrote:Innocent people don’t need preemptive pardons. Can’t wait to see what trump and his team have on fauci and bidens family.
i
They do, if Trump is promising to weaponise the FBI and Department of Justice, to seek revenge on his political opponents,
To try and erase his insurrection. from history.
Biden had to preemptively pardon the Police who were bashed in the insurrection,
and gave testimony at the insurrection hearings, for fear of retribution.Lol what? Jeff exotic you my friend are a fruitloop
Ha ha Burleigh the low info MAGA
Why did he pardon fauci?
He pardoned Fauci because Trump can’t be trusted to act within the law. Trump is after revenge with zero care for the laws.
More important a question is below.
Why did he have the Supreme Court grant himself immunity for official acts, placing him above the law? Why does he need this if he isn’t going to break the law?
Roadkill wrote:burleigh wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:burleigh wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:burleigh wrote:Innocent people don’t need preemptive pardons. Can’t wait to see what trump and his team have on fauci and bidens family.
i
They do, if Trump is promising to weaponise the FBI and Department of Justice, to seek revenge on his political opponents,
To try and erase his insurrection. from history.
Biden had to preemptively pardon the Police who were bashed in the insurrection,
and gave testimony at the insurrection hearings, for fear of retribution.Lol what? Jeff exotic you my friend are a fruitloop
Ha ha Burleigh the low info MAGA
Why did he pardon fauci?
He pardoned Fauci because Trump can’t be trusted to act within the law. Trump is after revenge with zero care for the laws.
More important a question is below.
Why did he have the Supreme Court grant himself immunity for official acts, placing him above the law? Why does he need this if he isn’t going to break the law?
Oh the Irony once again. Dill being a Dill.
velocityjohnno wrote:andy-mac wrote:Kind of thought big navel war ships are becoming obsolete with many countries now possessing supersonic missiles??
There's an escalation between capability and the ability to defend from this. Thus aircraft sealed the fate of the surface ship in 1940/1 with Taranto and Pearl Harbour, but by 1944 the AA umbrella was so fierce that the Japanese had to resort to suicide attacks to get through, and today we still have surface ships, with much more ability to shoot down much more stuff further away.
Next up is the delivery, to get an accurate fix on a moving target for a fast missile, a force is going to have to have recon elements that can target it while the missile is in flight - which can easily be shot down. Hence the emphasis on satellite and space domains for complete battlespace picture in real time. Other, slower cruise missiles can network and navigate by themselves and a saturation attack by these is one of the hardest challenges at present for air defence.
Similarly, drone subs have made subs obsolete, apparently. Only there are communication problems with getting the drones to real time target, and so their use is at present to 'drop off stuff' and survey. It's not yet a replacement for a fast SSN with full crew and it's own decision making. By the time it is, the SSN will be running with it's own screen of drones a bit like the picket destroyers to warn of kamikaze attacks at the end of WW2.
Ok cheers...
burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:burleigh wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:burleigh wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:burleigh wrote:Innocent people don’t need preemptive pardons. Can’t wait to see what trump and his team have on fauci and bidens family.
i
They do, if Trump is promising to weaponise the FBI and Department of Justice, to seek revenge on his political opponents,
To try and erase his insurrection. from history.
Biden had to preemptively pardon the Police who were bashed in the insurrection,
and gave testimony at the insurrection hearings, for fear of retribution.Lol what? Jeff exotic you my friend are a fruitloop
Ha ha Burleigh the low info MAGA
Why did he pardon fauci?
He pardoned Fauci because Trump can’t be trusted to act within the law. Trump is after revenge with zero care for the laws.
More important a question is below.
Why did he have the Supreme Court grant himself immunity for official acts, placing him above the law? Why does he need this if he isn’t going to break the law?
Oh the Irony once again. Dill being a Dill.
2nd time you have proven you don’t understand what irony is. No big deal tho. :)
Irony is ranting with anger and vitriol at rapists and sexual abusers in 1 thread…whilst calling a rapist and a sexual abuser a great man in another thread.
Irony.
flollo wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:flollo wrote:It had nothing to do with conservatism. Libertarian circles have advocated for his release for a long time. Both Trump and Kennedy (while a candidate) made election promises to have him released. Many argued that sentence he got was too extreme. All his convictions were for non violent crimes. He was also a first time offender. 2 x life in prison + 40 years with inability for a parole. He’s now a free man after 12 years in prison. Part of me thinks that this is enough. Especially after COVID where high level bureaucrats made life altering decisions on a population level. Everyone just brushed it off like nothing ever happened and no one was held responsible for bad decision. So yeah, I don’t mind this decision.
It could be argued that Ross Ulbricht ,was just providing a service, compared to the violent
conformity of the jan 6th delusioned .True. I’ll agree with you on this.
I agreed with you first.
haha, oh, @jef..
burleigh wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:burleigh wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:burleigh wrote:Innocent people don’t need preemptive pardons. Can’t wait to see what trump and his team have on fauci and bidens family.
i
They do, if Trump is promising to weaponise the FBI and Department of Justice, to seek revenge on his political opponents,
To try and erase his insurrection. from history.
Biden had to preemptively pardon the Police who were bashed in the insurrection,
and gave testimony at the insurrection hearings, for fear of retribution.Lol what? Jeff exotic you my friend are a fruitloop
Ha ha Burleigh the low info MAGA
Why did he pardon fauci?
He pre emptively pardoned Fauci
because Trump has threatened to seek retribution on his political opponents ,
anyone who disagrees with him or testifies against him.
Jef old mate we all read it elsewhere. Don’t need the explanation.
Funny stuff I saw today he made medication more expensive for Seppos.
And claimed if Canada integrates Canadians will have less taxes and cheaper healthcare.
The turd is a doofus.
seeds wrote:Jef old mate we all read it elsewhere. Don’t need the explanation.
Funny stuff I saw today he made medication more expensive for Seppos.
And claimed if Canada integrates Canadians will have less taxes and cheaper healthcare.
The turd is a doofus.
Well explain it to @ Burleigh then,
who doesn’t seem to read it elsewhere.
Exxotixjeff wrote:seeds wrote:Jef old mate we all read it elsewhere. Don’t need the explanation.
Funny stuff I saw today he made medication more expensive for Seppos.
And claimed if Canada integrates Canadians will have less taxes and cheaper healthcare.
The turd is a doofus.Well explain it to @ Burleigh then,
who doesn’t seem to read it elsewhere.
Why are you surprised? Burls is Burls. Sun comes up tomorrow.
Exxotixjeff wrote:burleigh wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:burleigh wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:burleigh wrote:Innocent people don’t need preemptive pardons. Can’t wait to see what trump and his team have on fauci and bidens family.
i
They do, if Trump is promising to weaponise the FBI and Department of Justice, to seek revenge on his political opponents,
To try and erase his insurrection. from history.
Biden had to preemptively pardon the Police who were bashed in the insurrection,
and gave testimony at the insurrection hearings, for fear of retribution.Lol what? Jeff exotic you my friend are a fruitloop
Ha ha Burleigh the low info MAGA
Why did he pardon fauci?
He pre emptively pardoned Fauci
because Trump has threatened to seek retribution on his political opponents ,
anyone who disagrees with him or testifies against him.
Wow you’ll literally spin anything. Fauci is guilty, but guilty of what? We will find out soon. Then you’ll spin it and defend it.
Roadkill wrote:Irony is ranting with anger and vitriol at rapists and sexual abusers in 1 thread…whilst calling a rapist and a sexual abuser a great man in another thread.
Irony.
Oh Dill, she had millions of reasons to sue him, and was releasing a book. Nothing suss. Move on.
seeds wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:seeds wrote:Jef old mate we all read it elsewhere. Don’t need the explanation.
Funny stuff I saw today he made medication more expensive for Seppos.
And claimed if Canada integrates Canadians will have less taxes and cheaper healthcare.
The turd is a doofus.Well explain it to @ Burleigh then,
who doesn’t seem to read it elsewhere.Why are you surprised? Burls is Burls. Sun comes up tomorrow.
I have an aversion to being called a fruit loop
burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:Irony is ranting with anger and vitriol at rapists and sexual abusers in 1 thread…whilst calling a rapist and a sexual abuser a great man in another thread.
Irony.
Oh Dill, she had millions of reasons to sue him, and was releasing a book. Nothing suss. Move on.
Or is that called ironic hypocrisy , much more of an art form, on that side of the
middle of the road ,
You’re loopy. that’s for sure. As in you go around and around and around but say nothing new.
Burls is a bit loopy too.
It’s all opinion.
seeds wrote:You’re loopy. that’s for sure. As in you go around and around and around but say nothing new.
Burls is a bit loopy too.
It’s all opinion.
Well if someone calls you loopy for saying something that is correct
I feel the need to explain, why you’re not loopy
If you property read the comments and quotes.
I wasn’t even addressing you anyway.
seeds wrote:Burls is Burls. Sun comes up tomorrow.
stonking comment. They (for I believe that is @burleigh's preferred pronoun) has (sic) an inspiring ability to be succinct as hemingway or george mackay brown, while saying a marlon brando thing they think. and to stonewall like a culvert to a skater on the front foot; I like seeing how the other half live. better than ranting pork-chop sylvia plaths getting all demented about things I actually agree with.
Exxotixjeff wrote:seeds wrote:You’re loopy. that’s for sure. As in you go around and around and around but say nothing new.
Burls is a bit loopy too.
It’s all opinion.Well if someone calls you loopy for saying something that is correct
I feel the need to explain, why you’re not loopy
If you property read the comments and quotes.
I wasn’t even addressing you anyway.
But you did.
Sylvia admired flowers with an intensity that I’ve experienced. Profound, but not to others.
It’s all opinion.
basesix wrote:seeds wrote:Burls is Burls. Sun comes up tomorrow.
stonking comment. They (for I believe that is @burleigh's preferred pronoun) has (sic) an inspiring ability to be succinct as hemingway or george mackay brown, while saying a marlon brando thing they think. and to stonewall like a culvert to a skater on the front foot; I like seeing how the other half live. better than ranting pork-chop sylvia plaths getting all demented about things I agree with.
Yeah but I feel it’s my civic duty to correct burls incorrectness , especially if he incorrectly calls me fruit loopy .
Helps if you read the preceding comments
I like you, too @jef.
(yeh, I'm the wrong person to talk to re plath @seeds, she done wronged (for me) a part of yorkshire while getting her gloomy on, during an unimaginative bronte pilgrimage.. so now I just see her as a ted hughes groupy. probs tots unfair).
indo-dreaming wrote:sypkan wrote:nazis... the lot of em I tell ya...
That footage and angle totally changes the whole vibe and perception of the action, that i saw the other day.
The other angle made it look kinda bad this one not really, these things can be so deceiving sometimes.
Hahahahaha. Get a load of these two trying defend Elon's obvious Sieg Heil. This is outrageous! hahahahahah.
seeds wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:seeds wrote:You’re loopy. that’s for sure. As in you go around and around and around but say nothing new.
Burls is a bit loopy too.
It’s all opinion.Well if someone calls you loopy for saying something that is correct
I feel the need to explain, why you’re not loopy
If you property read the comments and quotes.
I wasn’t even addressing you anyway.But you did.
I was addressing burly originally
But you decided to offer your opinion,
which is now going around and around,
Is that ironic loopiness your guilty of?
No mirrors in your house Jef?
Exxotixjeff wrote:basesix wrote:seeds wrote:Burls is Burls. Sun comes up tomorrow.
stonking comment. They (for I believe that is @burleigh's preferred pronoun) has (sic) an inspiring ability to be succinct as hemingway or george mackay brown, while saying a marlon brando thing they think. and to stonewall like a culvert to a skater on the front foot; I like seeing how the other half live. better than ranting pork-chop sylvia plaths getting all demented about things I agree with.
Yeah but I feel it’s my civic duty to correct burls incorrectness , especially if he incorrectly calls me fruit loopy .
Helps if you read the preceding comments
Correct me? You’re literally just spewing the same rubbish you watch on those YouTube vids you love so much.
You and the Dill have a lot in common, you do as you’re told by the computer screen.
seeds wrote:No mirrors in your house Jef?
Ha Lo a wise guy once said it takes 2 to go
around and and around, and not say anything about black pots calling black kettles black?
burleigh wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:basesix wrote:seeds wrote:Burls is Burls. Sun comes up tomorrow.
stonking comment. They (for I believe that is @burleigh's preferred pronoun) has (sic) an inspiring ability to be succinct as hemingway or george mackay brown, while saying a marlon brando thing they think. and to stonewall like a culvert to a skater on the front foot; I like seeing how the other half live. better than ranting pork-chop sylvia plaths getting all demented about things I agree with.
Yeah but I feel it’s my civic duty to correct burls incorrectness , especially if he incorrectly calls me fruit loopy .
Helps if you read the preceding commentsCorrect me? You’re literally just spewing the same rubbish you watch on those YouTube vids you love so much.
You and the Dill have a lot in common, you do as you’re told by the computer screen.
Yes well at least we do have a news source,
instead of making it up, how you think it should be.
indo-dreaming wrote:sypkan wrote:nazis... the lot of em I tell ya...
That footage and angle totally changes the whole vibe and perception of the action, that i saw the other day.
The other angle made it look kinda bad this one not really, these things can be so deceiving sometimes.
Obviously you are just trying to stir up shit Hicups
I stick by my original comment (below) from the other day, whatever it was suppose to be or the intentions of it, it was very silly just for the fact it could easily be misinterpreted, i like Musk but he can be a dickhead sometimes, he just likes to troll and stir up shit, things like this dont do him or anyone any favours, all completely pointless and self destructive.
And yes the reality is in this day and age some wanna be nazi's are the least of Israel or any Jewish peoples problems, the modern day equivalent are those we saw on 7th October 2023.
indo-dreaming wrote:andy-mac wrote:Really?
https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1881433923433169381?ref_src=twsrc%5...
Troll or stir the pot by all means, but whatever way you want to read into those gestures, or excuses he uses to explain, that's really disappointing and just not needed, if he wanted to do silly theatrics he could have closed the fist to play it safe and not have things read into wrongly, it's irresponsible and disappointing.
"ADL says ‘awkward’ Musk gesture ‘not a Nazi salute’: ‘This is a delicate moment’"
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5097676-elon-musk-defended-s...
They didn't feel the same way about his jokes after it though.
"Anti-Defamation League Condemns Elon Musk Holocaust Jokes After Defending ‘Awkward Gesture’"
https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloffs/2025/01/23/anti-defamation-lea...
Dunno what the kerfuffle is, even MLK Jr was into it.
haha, yup. very telling every drone and their dog are google-image-searching to defend it. what dog shit. hailing a bus, or saying 'zoooommm' are very different gestures to the richest kid at the cool-table knowing he can tell everyone that ever said he was an awkward little opportunistic twat to get fucked now he owns the yearbook committee.
indo-dreaming wrote:Obviously you are just trying to stir up shit Hicups
I stick by my original comment (below) from the other day, whatever it was suppose to be or the intentions of it, it was very silly just for the fact it could easily be misinterpreted, i like Musk but he can be a dickhead sometimes, he just likes to troll and stir up shit, things like this dont do him or anyone any favours, all completely pointless and self destructive.
And yes the reality is in this day and age some wanna be nazi's are the least of Israel or any Jewish peoples problems, the modern day equivalent are those we saw on 7th October 2023.
indo-dreaming wrote:andy-mac wrote:Really?
https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1881433923433169381?ref_src=twsrc%5...
Troll or stir the pot by all means, but whatever way you want to read into those gestures, or excuses he uses to explain, that's really disappointing and just not needed, if he wanted to do silly theatrics he could have closed the fist to play it safe and not have things read into wrongly, it's irresponsible and disappointing.
"ADL says ‘awkward’ Musk gesture ‘not a Nazi salute’: ‘This is a delicate moment’"
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5097676-elon-musk-defended-s...
Fuck it's funny that you just used the ADL's defence of Elon performing an actual Nazi salute, cos look where I got the template to make a meme of you. hahahaha
Fucken wanker!!!!!!
Yes. Very uncomfortable
We can see the appropriation of it.
The guy who consistently talks and acts like the sort of person that might let a nazi salute fly went and let a nazi salute fly? Who would of thunk it.
. double post
GuySmiley wrote:Always felt very uncomfortable seeing this image of this FRWNJ
ha ha
Okay i will give you this one.
I went to that Hill song church once with a family member i visited (was invited and curious), place was full of good looking girls, but it was weird and creepy, the hand rasiing eyes closed stuff, talking in tongue's, and laying of hands....
basesix wrote:haha, yup. very telling every drone and their dog are google-image-searching to defend it. what dog shit. hailing a bus, or saying 'zoooommm' are very different gestures to the richest kid at the cool-table knowing he can tell everyone that ever said he was an awkward little opportunistic twat to get fucked now he owns the yearbook committee.
Ha yes. I don't think he is a nazi, he is just a fuckwit who now has the ear of the chief clown. Gawd help us.
indo-dreaming wrote:I went to that Hill song church once with a family member i visited (was invited and curious), place was full of good looking girls, but it was weird and creepy, the hand rasiing eyes closed stuff, talking in tongue's, and laying of hands....
well, I'm currently staying in the apartment that dan andrews stayed in after he opened it, across form one of @blackers' locals, so we both have small degrees of being amazing-man adjacent. would have loved to have had a beer with either at the crustgrindcorefest I just experienced..
Hiccups wrote:The guy who consistently talks and acts like the sort of person that might let a nazi salute fly went and let a nazi salute fly? Who would of thunk it.
Yeah hiccups, musk is a nazi. Well done brains, you’ve won the dip shit award again today.
Don't worry, that award is yours every day burlz.
what about,
"it's rarely that I listen to cold chisel by choice, but through abc-reports on special choirs, the neices-and-nephews' gatherings, a vague sense of being in the wrong crowd in my youth, and generally just wandering into weird suburban pubs because I used trivago, cold chisel has permeated my life, in a way I find it very hard to be objective about"
..discuss..
(while were on it, a dissertation titled "Well done brains, you’ve won the dip shit award again" ?)
blackers wrote:Don't worry, that award is yours every day burlz.
I bet Blackers has pronouns on his email signature.
Edit: oops, sorry i just assumed your gender.
Ive been watching Trump talk live on a variety of issues, it's like chalk and cheese compared to Biden, he is pretty switched on over a variety of issues.
I think a lot of people really underestimate him and im sure people will mock me for even saying that, but look where he is, no way anyone would have predicted him being president again four years ago.
No body but Trump would even try to run to be president again, anyone in the same situation would think there was no chance and not even try.
Real man pre Blackers
indo-dreaming wrote:Ive been watching Trump talk live on a variety of issues, it's like chalk and cheese compared to Biden, he is pretty switched on over a variety of issues.
I think a lot of people really underestimate him and im sure people will mock me for even saying that, but look where he is, no way anyone would have predicted him being president again four years ago.
No body but Trump would even try to run to be president again, anyone in the same situation would think there was no chance and not even try.
Biden was past his use by date in the end, caught up to him. Ended up a mumbling forgetful old man.
Indo, what issues is he switched on about? I have watched him quite a few times and just see the usual talk and nothing but his interpretation of issues.
I watched him at the LA fires visit and he does seem to carry himself better in these situations than previously. Sometimes he isn’t so full of bs and settles down to be less show off. He will do some good this term no doubt but he will also fuck up a lot of stuff.
Musk has screwed himself…the largest recipient of govt funding…now wanting more for his go to Mars wet dream….full maga retard….4 years goes fast and for a smart man he seems to have zero clues about how easy it will be for Dems to halt his funding in the future. Burning bridges is his new go to action.
I use to think he was an amazing individual smarter than just about everyone else.A great entrepreneur with very little competition. Now he is just a complete fuckwit and everyone knows it.
Roadkill wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:Ive been watching Trump talk live on a variety of issues, it's like chalk and cheese compared to Biden, he is pretty switched on over a variety of issues.
I think a lot of people really underestimate him and im sure people will mock me for even saying that, but look where he is, no way anyone would have predicted him being president again four years ago.
No body but Trump would even try to run to be president again, anyone in the same situation would think there was no chance and not even try.
Biden was past his use by date in the end, caught up to him. Ended up a mumbling forgetful old man.
Indo, what issues is he switched on about? I have watched him quite a few times and just see the usual talk and nothing but his interpretation of issues.
I watched him at the LA fires visit and he does seem to carry himself better in these situations than previously. Sometimes he isn’t so full of bs and settles down to be less show off. He will do some good this term no doubt but he will also fuck up a lot of stuff.
Looking at the video again this morning it seems it's one of those videos that must have been live but is now just archived but still appears as its live, and seems to go around in a loop, but you cant choose where you want to come in or play back too etc, weird and the headline on the video is misleading barely a mention of that issue.
It seems to be a press conference, but one where they actually let him talk but still gets asked occasional question's, and he just seems so relaxed and actually answers the question's with quite good answers and examples etc, none of this avoiding the questions you see 99% of politician's do and far less over the top hyperbole than normal for Trump, i like this side of Trump and found it a good listen.
But yeah we are both coming in from totally different perspective's, im coming in from one of wanting to see Trump in a positive light for the future , while you are coming in from the opposite.
It's like checking the surf, you can look at it and say, yeah theres a few guys out, but it looks fun and should get better with the tide, lets get out there, or you can say its crowded and the sea breeze is probably going to come in soon, maybe tomorrow.
Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank