Next Federal Election

flollo wrote:

It’s incredible that we literally don’t make anything in Australia.

The US realised this mistake a long time ago and there is a strong momentum to develop certain industries. I’m following some great developments. I would talk about it more in the US thread but that place is way too toxic.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDhm-I5o_YJ/?igsh=NWdhM25pNnZscnRh

We can build anything but the LABOR component is too high for anyone to consider paying the price ...Cast your mind back to ITS TIME, CoughWitless doubled wages and made Australia's manufacturers redundant....DUMB and each edition is DUMBER!

1974 PM Gough Whitlam child slave wages
$1.80 / wk for selling 5 x 100 Daily Newspapers + ( Cop brutal pub bully harassment )
$2.40 / wk for pedalling 5 x 14km Round of 35 Newspapers ( In the dark OTHB stax + dog bites)
Wotz a Pay Rise...no one tells us kidz nuthin'!

5 yrs as Iso outpatient, Hodad tbb is prayin' to win a Wild Card on Gough's Child Slave Trade Dream Tour.

Being truthful...tbb's dream is to reclaim unpaid top job as Town Pickerupperrer.
If ya think that's an easy job...tbb's Mum / Doctor's warn from goin' anywhere near the other's filth'n'rubbish.
Why! Coz still recovering from last bout...not getting any better..worse if anything!
Still...that's tbb's dream...to Tidy the Town...breaks tbb's heart to see it trashed and unloved.

Our small Family firm used to Plaster more homes / month than Goldie rivals...
After 20 years > We were in demand > working 30-40 homes / month...very proud we were.
Builders requested tbb by name to work on their Architectural / Prize homes etc...
tbb could earn over 2,000 wk during the 1990's

Then Howard's GST loaded 30-40% onto House / land Packages
Anyone still figuring 10% ...please don't vote!

We were now working several regions scouring any job for lowest wage...150km radius
Most we'd wrangle was 3-4/month in a wider radius 150km from home...now sleep in caravans
After GST ... tbb's income was slashed from over $2,000 wk to under $300 / wk

We all ended up on centrelink...Yes! Our Employers & several rival Contractors & crews..
A conga line all scouring the Nerang CES Job Board each morning like Zombies in Thatcher's Britain.
We'd argue a generation of Building Skill set lost!

Howard's GST Suppliers employed City accountants to withhold our 10% supply receipts.
Small family businesses were squeezed out by GST Guzzling Supply Giants.
Spent most part of each Friday arvo spy tracking [L] Dick Corp Suppliers to demand our GST receipts.
Worst part was that GST forced every Subbie to be GST Tax Contractors with 100% Business Costs!

That's the truth of the matter...
Liberals GST upped All Construct / Building / Manufacturing costs by 30-40% & killed Productivity.
Sure...read all the [L] MBA / HIA wank Charts ya like...tbb lived thru Howard's Nation killing nightmare.
The rest of #1 isolated Nation Oz is living that Mandated GST impost now & forever...
No other isolated nation penalizes it's own supply logistics chain as Oz does.

Very reason Libs cart 80% less freight than Labor
Very reason Libs drop Oz Rank 50 points on Complex Productivity Rank > now below #100
People that build & construct stuff generally have unions...
Ask! What does Liberal Party hate more than anything...Construction / Manufacturing / Transit
Libs dream up new ways to halt our nation from building & moving...that's their job!
To isolate / penalize / Imprison Oz further from the big scary World
If it grows or moves..it's considered a Power struggle threat > KILL KILL KILL.

I’m surprised Gina didn’t thank Santos for supplying Australia with cheap gas .

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truebluebasher wrote:

Our small Family firm used to Plaster more homes / month than Goldie rivals...
After 20 years > We were in demand > working 30-40 homes / month...very proud we were.
Builders requested tbb by name to work on their Architectural / Prize homes etc...
tbb could earn over 2,000 wk during the 1990's

Then Howard's GST loaded 30-40% onto House / land Packages
Anyone still figuring 10% ...please don't vote!

We were now working several regions scouring any job for lowest wage...150km radius
Most we'd wrangle was 3-4/month in a wider radius 150km from home...now sleep in caravans
After GST ... tbb's income was slashed from over $2,000 wk to under $300 / wk

We all ended up on centrelink...Yes! Our Employers & several rival Contractors & crews..
A conga line all scouring the Nerang CES Job Board each morning like Zombies in Thatcher's Britain.
We'd argue a generation of Building Skill set lost!

Howard's GST Suppliers employed City accountants to withhold our 10% supply receipts.
Small family businesses were squeezed out by GST Guzzling Supply Giants.
Spent most part of each Friday arvo spy tracking [L] Dick Corp Suppliers to demand our GST receipts.
Worst part was that GST forced every Subbie to be GST Tax Contractors with 100% Business Costs!

That's the truth of the matter...
Liberals GST upped All Construct / Building / Manufacturing costs by 30-40% & killed Productivity.
Sure...read all the [L] MBA / HIA wank Charts ya like...tbb lived thru Howard's Nation killing nightmare.
The rest of #1 isolated Nation Oz is living that Mandated GST impost now & forever...
No other isolated nation penalizes it's own supply logistics chain as Oz does.

Very reason Libs cart 80% less freight than Labor
Very reason Libs drop Oz Rank 50 points on Complex Productivity Rank > now below #100
People that build & construct stuff generally have unions...
Ask! What does Liberal Party hate more than anything...Construction / Manufacturing / Transit
Libs dream up new ways to halt our nation from building & moving...that's their job!
To isolate / penalize / Imprison Oz further from the big scary World
If it grows or moves..it's considered a Power struggle threat > KILL KILL KILL.

TBB. Hi fella. Hope you’re hanging in there.

I’ve enjoyed all your posts this year, matter of fact all previous years as well.
You’re a hard working person, we need more like you in this nation.

I agree with all you’ve written in this post.

Wishing you a better and Merry Xmas and hopefully a happier New Year.
Here’s to your health improving.

I look forward to. reading more of your great work in 2025.

If you ever need anything or help, hit me up. All the best. AW

truebluebasher wrote:

Our small Family firm used to Plaster more homes / month than Goldie rivals...
After 20 years > We were in demand > working 30-40 homes / month...very proud we were.
Builders requested tbb by name to work on their Architectural / Prize homes etc...
tbb could earn over 2,000 wk during the 1990's

Then Howard's GST loaded 30-40% onto House / land Packages
Anyone still figuring 10% ...please don't vote!

We were now working several regions scouring any job for lowest wage...150km radius
Most we'd wrangle was 3-4/month in a wider radius 150km from home...now sleep in caravans
After GST ... tbb's income was slashed from over $2,000 wk to under $300 / wk

We all ended up on centrelink...Yes! Our Employers & several rival Contractors & crews..
A conga line all scouring the Nerang CES Job Board each morning like Zombies in Thatcher's Britain.
We'd argue a generation of Building Skill set lost!

Howard's GST Suppliers employed City accountants to withhold our 10% supply receipts.
Small family businesses were squeezed out by GST Guzzling Supply Giants.
Spent most part of each Friday arvo spy tracking [L] Dick Corp Suppliers to demand our GST receipts.
Worst part was that GST forced every Subbie to be GST Tax Contractors with 100% Business Costs!

That's the truth of the matter...
Liberals GST upped All Construct / Building / Manufacturing costs by 30-40% & killed Productivity.
Sure...read all the [L] MBA / HIA wank Charts ya like...tbb lived thru Howard's Nation killing nightmare.
The rest of #1 isolated Nation Oz is living that Mandated GST impost now & forever...
No other isolated nation penalizes it's own supply logistics chain as Oz does.

Very reason Libs cart 80% less freight than Labor
Very reason Libs drop Oz Rank 50 points on Complex Productivity Rank > now below #100
People that build & construct stuff generally have unions...
Ask! What does Liberal Party hate more than anything...Construction / Manufacturing / Transit
Libs dream up new ways to halt our nation from building & moving...that's their job!
To isolate / penalize / Imprison Oz further from the big scary World
If it grows or moves..it's considered a Power struggle threat > KILL KILL KILL.

So you killing it in a recession and then in a building boom. you are not.

That make's no sense.

The hassle of GST sucks but it does makes sense and many other developed countries have it, obviously the cost doesn't come out of the pocket of the tradesman but out of the pocket of the client.

BTW, there is something people overlook with GST and that's that it actually helps sole traders that are starting out or that just want a life work balance, especially those that dont want to totally retire but also dont want to work full time.

For example lets say you are a tiler that still wants to work but happy to have a turn over under 75K a year.

A sole trader that stays under the GST threshold can put a quote (without charging GST) for a job at lets say $10K ideally with the agreement the client provides materials (tiles in this case)

A bigger company paying GST even if agree's with client they provide materials (tiles) needs to put in a 10% higher price at $11K just to make the same money.

So in effect GST helps the little guy, he can actually put in a quote 10% less than the bigger company and still make the same profit that they would have if they had gotten the job.

Obviously this is easier in some areas of work than others.

Not supposed to share this...but by name & nature...tbb commits to nothing but the truth...
Crew know tbb is on disability support but it was never even once imagined...
Was always ever a Top tradie paying well above my fair share of tax...
In fact tbb built one house & bought a Town House & never once claimed any Housing Rebate.
Who else is gonna share such honesty...not any arseholes this crew ever voted for...
tbb started in 1980 > Just rounding out pay dockets for online security compliance
Same [L] Govt /Family /Kids /Career /Address /Phone / Kingswood /Employee /Builders /Accountant
1993/1994= $70,000/yr (1 Kid)
1994/1995= $50,000/yr
1996/1997= $46,400/yr
1997/1998= $51,300/yr (2 Kids)
1998/1999= $55,300/yr
1999/2000= $68,800/yr
July... 2000= Howard's GST
2000/2001= $38,100/yr (Oz #1 Builders lost 90% GC sales we scavenged 150km from other mouths)
2001/2002= $25,600/yr (tbb actually worked 3x harder & longer to earn 3x less...often sleep driving!)

Excuse tbb if no records are found from here on...Likely couldn't afford or even need an accountant.
From 14yr trade skills under Keating dropped 64% pay for being 22 years experienced under Howard.
Every tradie tbb spoke to was pissed off that only in Australia are Top Tradies considered as shit.
From Top Down look at what Howard does > Says we're his accelerator pedal or some shit...seriously!

Mobster [L] Suppliers priced out Family Trade Business + Denied our Material Receipts to us Subbies
Suppliers directed all Trade thru Slick Accountants as we stalked & chased them for our GST receipts.
Gold Tickets we called them as we spent $2-300 /wk on plaster...that's why [L] mobsters hived them.
They were wrangling 30-40 contractors $300 GST Dockets as their own GST Rebates...'our rebates'.
As said Howard upgraded [L] Salesmen as Gods (vs) Nation building Tradies as shit on White Shoes!

Also speak on behalf of Home Buyers Boom / Bust cycle led to 3-4 year build delays, threats & fights.
Any here still think tbb is having a lend or any think this is funny...It's not...record families broke up.
Perfect example of how Howard is Anti Labour, Anti Housing, Anti Small Family business,

Don't expect [L] Investors to understand what hard work is...if their hero Howard Kills off hard workers.
Watch how this GST plays out as if it's [L] Tinkerbell Dust...
1st home buyers 1993 = 22% > 2003 = 15.4% (Record low)
Home Investors...1993 = 20.3% > 2003= 44.5% (Record High)
There it is everybody knows...Howard's GST let [L]azy Greedy cunts Sponge up The Aussie Dream.

Median House prices greatest price jump under Howard's GST
Feel free to check any City / Table / Graph ya like, all points to 30-60% House price kikes 1997-2003.
Might wanna stand back as GST spike flies off the page...Oopsie! Now...That's a Fuckin' Spike!
Exactly...GST killed housing forever! See for yerselves > Any city / chart of the time is going nuts.
Kaboom...Howard at the mixing desk...twiddlin' the dial...Oopsie...'nother 5,000 + Oz dream dead.
https://mccrindle.com.au/app/uploads/images/Abelson_9_04.pdf

Household Debt > GDP (GST )2000=69.8% rising 2007=108.4% WR outta control ramp = KILLS Oz!
Always rises highest & fastest outta control under [L] govts...(Fuckin' hopeless pathetic economists)
https://tradingeconomics.com/australia/households-debt-to-gdp

Chain price index of Consumer goods & Services took off like a rocket with GST on remote Pacific Island
1986 = 29.9 points > 1996 = 45.5 points (Moderate rise now watch Howard's GST ramp Service cost)
July 2000 = 48.3 points > July 2008 = 67.7 Points (Massive [L] GST logistical blowout in less time)
Keeps soaring with GST to over 100 points as Howard's GST keeps impregnating WR supply chain.
https://tradingeconomics.com/australia/gdp-chain-price-index

Notice how both these supply indexes blow out to WR levels under [L] govts...
[L] Love GST 'cause it fuckin' curtails industrial growth...Ward off Union uprising..

Choose any data > Corresponds with Howard's Product Complexity chain slipping at WR decline...
2000 # 63 plummets 2008 #87 (GST impost on building / servicing a Massive Global embarrassment)
Further [L] Govts ban Building & Labour now plummeting to #102 beneath Nations that we bomb.
[L] Dutto is likely to Drop Oz to #120 ...that's no joke! [L] Govts own Global Complexity rank decline.
https://atlas.hks.harvard.edu/rankings

Highest Marriage break ups under Howard & Record Jump with record GST Marital Health Crisis
1998 = 2.7 > 1999 = 2.8 > 2000 =2.6 (GST= Highest Divorces) 2001 =2.9 /1,000 were ending it.
Proof that [L] Howard's GST spiked a battle of sexes by Corporatizing Families as ai [L] Tax mules
Howard : [ I stopped Families]...We decide which Voter is entitled to a Family! ( Bad luck Parents...)
(Ever since Howard's record GST Break Up period > Divorce rate receded to now 2 / 1,000)
Media praise [L] Howard as Family man > Hate filled monster Destroys families/kids in record numbers!

So if any Howard Loving losers wanna layout how GST saved Oz Housing...reminding tbb's a victim...
Please lay out yer Wage Dockets & be at least half as honest...Never gonna happen as it's Bullshit...
Howard was that useless coward that killed everything good in Australia & poisoned the World...
Of course ya get a Double LP for that but with GST we're left with this rebate that sums it up perfectly.

Oh haha don’t ruin Indo’s Christmas.
Probably was about when the decline began. The widening of the prosperity and adversity in Australia.

Also when Labor were heading past being just and starting heading towards being woke rather than sticking to there roots. Probably a cover for their continuity of Neo Liberalism.

So we know the Lib/Lab situation is rooted, who are the alternatives??

Gina needs a tax cut , 40 billion + just isn’t enough to feed her pie habit .

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Supafreak wrote:

Gina needs a tax cut , 40 billion + just isn’t enough to feed her pie habit . https://www.instagram.com/reel/DEBcQHAKpRa/?igsh=MTgxbHMzeXo0MTAxdA==

How sad, a room full of head nodding young liberals who have scant or no regard for the environments they work. i.e farming, mining etc. AW

AndyM wrote:

So we know the Lib/Lab situation is rooted, who are the alternatives??

Not much. One can only hope your senate vote works out so the Senate isn’t too partisan.

On a state level here in Noosa Shire we have had an independent in for last two elections.
Labor have no chance in this area so it’s great that most are turning away from Liberal too.
Aberration for the Sunshine Coast though that is full Liberal state and federally.

Supafreak wrote:

Gina needs a tax cut , 40 billion + just isn’t enough to feed her pie habit . https://www.instagram.com/reel/DEBcQHAKpRa/?igsh=MTgxbHMzeXo0MTAxdA==

friendlyjordies YouTube clip goes through this leaked video. The real take out from it is Gina Rinehart is as thick as two planks and without an inheritance she’d be beating the odds if she had actually worked for it. No university degree No coming up through industry just whacko I’ve got daddy’s mine.
Find the jordies clip and listen to her, unbelievably stupid and entitled.

soggydog wrote:

Supafreak wrote:

Gina needs a tax cut , 40 billion + just isn’t enough to feed her pie habit . https://www.instagram.com/reel/DEBcQHAKpRa/?igsh=MTgxbHMzeXo0MTAxdA==

friendlyjordies YouTube clip goes through this leaked video. The real take out from it is Gina Rinehart is as thick as two planks and without an inheritance she’d be beating the odds if she had actually worked for it. No university degree No coming up through industry just whacko I’ve got daddy’s mine.
Find the jordies clip and listen to her, unbelievably stupid and entitled.

Soggydog. Hi pal. Merry Xmas

Well, that’s highly offensive to those very intelligent two planks.

Without an inheritance, she’d be queued up outside CentreLink..

Why do politicians and business people give credence to anything that comes out her mouth, just shows how many nuffys we have in our business sectors ? AW

Who would be the single biggest finical contributor to Australia in history?

Would it be Gina?

I dont mind Gina she seems pretty down to earth, and good to see a women as our richest Australian.

Who knows what she would be if she wasn't born rich, and who cares, but the whole ive got to hate on anyone that is rich and successful is so fucking lame.

indo-dreaming wrote:

Who would be the single biggest finical contributor to Australia in history?

Would it be Gina?

I dont mind Gina she seems pretty down to earth, and good to see a women as our richest Australian.

Who knows what she would be if she wasn't born rich, and who cares, but the whole ive got to hate on anyone that is rich and successful is so fucking lame.

What about inherited billionaires advocating for Australian workers to be paid $2 a day?

@indo , it’s not her wealth I find sickening, it’s her greed . Gina would eat her own children if she could get close enough .

$2 a day is ridiculous but her point she was making isn't

Australia cant compete in many area because we have priced ourselves out of things

BTW. She obviously was born rich, but it was millions(75 millions) not billions she inheriated, her father left a bankrupt estate and things were in very bad shape business wise.

All this tripe about her being stupid is just garbage, she is a very successful smart business women she is worth more than 300 times what she inherited.

If she was a bad business women or stupid, she would have blown everything.

Happy Christmas Swellneters,

Barry Humphris on Gina, I watched this episode live and I recall Barry having the audience in stitches talking about Gina’s big hole and how it would be impossible to fill ….

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Yes Indo, only $75 million.

....and land, and the means to capitalise on it.

And the point still stands that if you're born with a silver spoon in your mouth - or 75 million of them - it's not your place to tell ordinary folk how little they should earn.

Either make the existing structure work for you or STFU.

All this is getting away from the real point of the jordies expose and that is that despite all the hate on Labor they’ve actually made these guys start paying and the likes of Gina don’t want to pay.
The bomb shell is Mr Romper Stomper Potato Head has promised to be their best friend and do exactly as he’s told if they’re re elected. So even though Labor appears t capitulate quite a lot the coalition seems to be prepared to just be figureheads doing the mining industry’s political work.

Indo, Gina didn’t build her wealth, her daddy owned a hole in the ground, with contracts and infrastructure already in place all she had to do is get other people to dig. She’s a parasite on Australia not an inspiration.

Merry Christmas AW, Christmas break has been great, back swinging the hammer today. Got a nice Boxing Day better than it looked grovel. All the best.