Next Federal Election

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velocityjohnno started the topic in Monday, 22 Jan 2024 at 2:15pm

Might as well put this up in the politics subforum, to spare the front page. It's 18 months away or so, but here we go.

This is how Dutton wins:

https://www.afr.com/politics/enter-the-liberal-party-working-class-heroe...

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velocityjohnno Friday, 20 Dec 2024 at 7:47pm
flollo wrote:

It’s incredible that we literally don’t make anything in Australia.

The US realised this mistake a long time ago and there is a strong momentum to develop certain industries. I’m following some great developments. I would talk about it more in the US thread but that place is way too toxic.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDhm-I5o_YJ/?igsh=NWdhM25pNnZscnRh

Totally Flollo, CNBC has been on a great run with these docos showing the US reindustrialising with high tech. Here's Micron:

You know they are actually a serious country by doing this. Doesn't matter who is President, they've been on the path for a long time. First, energy independence; then downstream things from this, like chemical production independence. Then bringing the world's renewable tech onshore, and at the same time rebuilding their tech hardware infrastructure as well as AI investment.

Meanwhile:

https://www.aumanufacturing.com.au/responding-to-the-loss-of-sovereign-a...

https://procurementandsupply.com/supply-chains-on-alert-over-the-closure...

https://www.afr.com/policy/energy-and-climate/gas-costs-could-sink-more-...

Again, the minister can activate the domestic gas reservation for the east coast.

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quadzilla Friday, 20 Dec 2024 at 8:11pm
flollo wrote:

It’s incredible that we literally don’t make anything in Australia.

The US realised this mistake a long time ago and there is a strong momentum to develop certain industries. I’m following some great developments. I would talk about it more in the US thread but that place is way too toxic.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDhm-I5o_YJ/?igsh=NWdhM25pNnZscnRh

We can build anything but the LABOR component is too high for anyone to consider paying the price ...Cast your mind back to ITS TIME, CoughWitless doubled wages and made Australia's manufacturers redundant....DUMB and each edition is DUMBER!

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truebluebasher Saturday, 21 Dec 2024 at 11:06am

1974 PM Gough Whitlam child slave wages
$1.80 / wk for selling 5 x 100 Daily Newspapers + ( Cop brutal pub bully harassment )
$2.40 / wk for pedalling 5 x 14km Round of 35 Newspapers ( In the dark OTHB stax + dog bites)
Wotz a Pay Rise...no one tells us kidz nuthin'!

5 yrs as Iso outpatient, Hodad tbb is prayin' to win a Wild Card on Gough's Child Slave Trade Dream Tour.

Being truthful...tbb's dream is to reclaim unpaid top job as Town Pickerupperrer.
If ya think that's an easy job...tbb's Mum / Doctor's warn from goin' anywhere near the other's filth'n'rubbish.
Why! Coz still recovering from last bout...not getting any better..worse if anything!
Still...that's tbb's dream...to Tidy the Town...breaks tbb's heart to see it trashed and unloved.

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truebluebasher Saturday, 21 Dec 2024 at 12:15pm

Our small Family firm used to Plaster more homes / month than Goldie rivals...
After 20 years > We were in demand > working 30-40 homes / month...very proud we were.
Builders requested tbb by name to work on their Architectural / Prize homes etc...
tbb could earn over 2,000 wk during the 1990's

Then Howard's GST loaded 30-40% onto House / land Packages
Anyone still figuring 10% ...please don't vote!

We were now working several regions scouring any job for lowest wage...150km radius
Most we'd wrangle was 3-4/month in a wider radius 150km from home...now sleep in caravans
After GST ... tbb's income was slashed from over $2,000 wk to under $300 / wk

We all ended up on centrelink...Yes! Our Employers & several rival Contractors & crews..
A conga line all scouring the Nerang CES Job Board each morning like Zombies in Thatcher's Britain.
We'd argue a generation of Building Skill set lost!

Howard's GST Suppliers employed City accountants to withhold our 10% supply receipts.
Small family businesses were squeezed out by GST Guzzling Supply Giants.
Spent most part of each Friday arvo spy tracking [L] Dick Corp Suppliers to demand our GST receipts.
Worst part was that GST forced every Subbie to be GST Tax Contractors with 100% Business Costs!

That's the truth of the matter...
Liberals GST upped All Construct / Building / Manufacturing costs by 30-40% & killed Productivity.
Sure...read all the [L] MBA / HIA wank Charts ya like...tbb lived thru Howard's Nation killing nightmare.
The rest of #1 isolated Nation Oz is living that Mandated GST impost now & forever...
No other isolated nation penalizes it's own supply logistics chain as Oz does.

Very reason Libs cart 80% less freight than Labor
Very reason Libs drop Oz Rank 50 points on Complex Productivity Rank > now below #100
People that build & construct stuff generally have unions...
Ask! What does Liberal Party hate more than anything...Construction / Manufacturing / Transit
Libs dream up new ways to halt our nation from building & moving...that's their job!
To isolate / penalize / Imprison Oz further from the big scary World
If it grows or moves..it's considered a Power struggle threat > KILL KILL KILL.

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Supafreak Tuesday, 24 Dec 2024 at 1:10am

I’m surprised Gina didn’t thank Santos for supplying Australia with cheap gas .

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AlfredWallace Tuesday, 24 Dec 2024 at 6:53am
truebluebasher wrote:

Our small Family firm used to Plaster more homes / month than Goldie rivals...
After 20 years > We were in demand > working 30-40 homes / month...very proud we were.
Builders requested tbb by name to work on their Architectural / Prize homes etc...
tbb could earn over 2,000 wk during the 1990's

Then Howard's GST loaded 30-40% onto House / land Packages
Anyone still figuring 10% ...please don't vote!

We were now working several regions scouring any job for lowest wage...150km radius
Most we'd wrangle was 3-4/month in a wider radius 150km from home...now sleep in caravans
After GST ... tbb's income was slashed from over $2,000 wk to under $300 / wk

We all ended up on centrelink...Yes! Our Employers & several rival Contractors & crews..
A conga line all scouring the Nerang CES Job Board each morning like Zombies in Thatcher's Britain.
We'd argue a generation of Building Skill set lost!

Howard's GST Suppliers employed City accountants to withhold our 10% supply receipts.
Small family businesses were squeezed out by GST Guzzling Supply Giants.
Spent most part of each Friday arvo spy tracking [L] Dick Corp Suppliers to demand our GST receipts.
Worst part was that GST forced every Subbie to be GST Tax Contractors with 100% Business Costs!

That's the truth of the matter...
Liberals GST upped All Construct / Building / Manufacturing costs by 30-40% & killed Productivity.
Sure...read all the [L] MBA / HIA wank Charts ya like...tbb lived thru Howard's Nation killing nightmare.
The rest of #1 isolated Nation Oz is living that Mandated GST impost now & forever...
No other isolated nation penalizes it's own supply logistics chain as Oz does.

Very reason Libs cart 80% less freight than Labor
Very reason Libs drop Oz Rank 50 points on Complex Productivity Rank > now below #100
People that build & construct stuff generally have unions...
Ask! What does Liberal Party hate more than anything...Construction / Manufacturing / Transit
Libs dream up new ways to halt our nation from building & moving...that's their job!
To isolate / penalize / Imprison Oz further from the big scary World
If it grows or moves..it's considered a Power struggle threat > KILL KILL KILL.

TBB. Hi fella. Hope you’re hanging in there.

I’ve enjoyed all your posts this year, matter of fact all previous years as well.
You’re a hard working person, we need more like you in this nation.

I agree with all you’ve written in this post.

Wishing you a better and Merry Xmas and hopefully a happier New Year.
Here’s to your health improving.

I look forward to. reading more of your great work in 2025.

If you ever need anything or help, hit me up. All the best. AW

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indo-dreaming Tuesday, 24 Dec 2024 at 8:17am
truebluebasher wrote:

Our small Family firm used to Plaster more homes / month than Goldie rivals...
After 20 years > We were in demand > working 30-40 homes / month...very proud we were.
Builders requested tbb by name to work on their Architectural / Prize homes etc...
tbb could earn over 2,000 wk during the 1990's

Then Howard's GST loaded 30-40% onto House / land Packages
Anyone still figuring 10% ...please don't vote!

We were now working several regions scouring any job for lowest wage...150km radius
Most we'd wrangle was 3-4/month in a wider radius 150km from home...now sleep in caravans
After GST ... tbb's income was slashed from over $2,000 wk to under $300 / wk

We all ended up on centrelink...Yes! Our Employers & several rival Contractors & crews..
A conga line all scouring the Nerang CES Job Board each morning like Zombies in Thatcher's Britain.
We'd argue a generation of Building Skill set lost!

Howard's GST Suppliers employed City accountants to withhold our 10% supply receipts.
Small family businesses were squeezed out by GST Guzzling Supply Giants.
Spent most part of each Friday arvo spy tracking [L] Dick Corp Suppliers to demand our GST receipts.
Worst part was that GST forced every Subbie to be GST Tax Contractors with 100% Business Costs!

That's the truth of the matter...
Liberals GST upped All Construct / Building / Manufacturing costs by 30-40% & killed Productivity.
Sure...read all the [L] MBA / HIA wank Charts ya like...tbb lived thru Howard's Nation killing nightmare.
The rest of #1 isolated Nation Oz is living that Mandated GST impost now & forever...
No other isolated nation penalizes it's own supply logistics chain as Oz does.

Very reason Libs cart 80% less freight than Labor
Very reason Libs drop Oz Rank 50 points on Complex Productivity Rank > now below #100
People that build & construct stuff generally have unions...
Ask! What does Liberal Party hate more than anything...Construction / Manufacturing / Transit
Libs dream up new ways to halt our nation from building & moving...that's their job!
To isolate / penalize / Imprison Oz further from the big scary World
If it grows or moves..it's considered a Power struggle threat > KILL KILL KILL.

So you killing it in a recession and then in a building boom. you are not.

That make's no sense.

The hassle of GST sucks but it does makes sense and many other developed countries have it, obviously the cost doesn't come out of the pocket of the tradesman but out of the pocket of the client.

BTW, there is something people overlook with GST and that's that it actually helps sole traders that are starting out or that just want a life work balance, especially those that dont want to totally retire but also dont want to work full time.

For example lets say you are a tiler that still wants to work but happy to have a turn over under 75K a year.

A sole trader that stays under the GST threshold can put a quote (without charging GST) for a job at lets say $10K ideally with the agreement the client provides materials (tiles in this case)

A bigger company paying GST even if agree's with client they provide materials (tiles) needs to put in a 10% higher price at $11K just to make the same money.

So in effect GST helps the little guy, he can actually put in a quote 10% less than the bigger company and still make the same profit that they would have if they had gotten the job.

Obviously this is easier in some areas of work than others.