Aleppo.....Syrian conflict restarting.

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quadzilla started the topic in Saturday, 30 Nov 2024 at 9:14am

This was a centre of news a while ago and the first 8 minutes of this report shows some rebellion.

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quadzilla Saturday, 30 Nov 2024 at 9:29am

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GuySmiley Saturday, 30 Nov 2024 at 10:28am

Yes, I saw this also this morning, another front for Putin to worry about now for those that trade in human misery, of course some may argue that in some ways it was the Syrian uprising where Putin realised what the West would allow him to get away with that led to the Crimean invasion/annexation and now war with Ukraine.

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quadzilla Saturday, 30 Nov 2024 at 10:48am
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Yes, I saw this also this morning, another front for Putin to worry about now for those that trade in human misery, of course some may argue that in some ways it was the Syrian uprising where Putin realised what the West would allow him to get away with that led to the Crimean invasion/annexation and now war with Ukraine.

Civilian unrest against the proRuski Georgian government too.For POOtin, the shits hitting a few fans.

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etarip Saturday, 30 Nov 2024 at 11:29am

Russian interest in Syria is their Mediterranean naval base in the port of Tartar. If Assad regime forces keep collapsing that could be threatened. This is a big problem for Putin, as access to that port allows them to avoid the Bosporus choke point, controlled by Turkey. The Syrian airbases are also a transit hub for them projecting their forces into Africa etc.
Russian support was vital for Assad’s survival earlier in the civil war. Not sure if they have the capacity to pitch in now.

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etarip Saturday, 30 Nov 2024 at 12:08pm

Sorry, Tartus…
Syrian rebel forces supported, largely, by Turkey. But a hodgepodge of Star Wars bar groups - including some ISIS aligned.

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velocityjohnno Saturday, 30 Nov 2024 at 2:19pm
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a hodgepodge of Star Wars bar groups - including some ISIS aligned.

I can imagine what that looks like

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 30 Nov 2024 at 2:48pm

I dont know much about this civil war but its crazy how both Russia an Hezbollah/Iran are involved

From the other month

"In the aftermath of Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah's death, massive celebrations erupted in Idlib, Syria, with people rejoicing and honking cars in the streets. Videos circulating on social media show residents celebrating, as Nasrallah's death brings hope to many Syrians displaced by the ongoing civil war."

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 30 Nov 2024 at 2:46pm

And another new informative video on the conflict

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quadzilla Sunday, 1 Dec 2024 at 7:19am

Some recent updates

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velocityjohnno Sunday, 1 Dec 2024 at 2:54pm

Holy hell if that is true that changes things. Russian air base and sea base allow access to Med and also transit to all of Africa, where they've been happily rolling French colonies with Wagner group. France may be enjoying this.

I've had a quick look post-surf here

https://www.twz.com/news-features/rebel-forces-enter-syrias-second-large...

And you just go to the comments, select 'newest' and the crowdsourced latest news and rumours keeps up with the event - links to X which I don't have, so it's good to read those from the OSINT crew as linked.

It seems there's some sort of operation in Damascus against Assad, maybe a coup, there's this:

"U.S Coalition Forces engaged Iranian Sites near the Euphrates with Artillery, as the Syrian Defense Force (SDF) has begun an Operation against the Assad Regime in Deir ez-Zor Governorate. The SDF is already claiming to have Captured the Town of Khasham."

Which seems an escalation in a different area.

And plenty of people are wondering which intel agencies are behind which players. Star Wars bar fight indeed. I've seen this movie before and would advise against using jihadis as proxies, as they are a bit excitable and planes tend to get flown into buildings 20-30 years later in your home country after helping them.

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etarip Sunday, 1 Dec 2024 at 6:18pm

Plenty of groups with an axe to grind with Assad, Iranian-sponsored paramilitaries and the Russians in Syria. Going to get uglier. Again.
The fighting there has been brutal, with documented use of chemical weapons, pioneering use of the ‘double-tap’ strikes to kill first responders, barrel-bomb strikes on civilian population centres etc. Many of the things that the world is (rightly) protesting that Israel is doing in Gaza have been happening non-stop in Syria for a decade.

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quadzilla Sunday, 1 Dec 2024 at 7:10pm

The first group are now at Hama, which is about 25 or so miles inland from the Russian naval base.I hope they can capture that with all the warships(usually has up to 15)

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andy-mac Sunday, 1 Dec 2024 at 7:47pm
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The first group are now at Hama, which is about 25 or so miles inland from the Russian naval base.I hope they can capture that with all the warships(usually has up to 15)
https://youtu.be/8WmVW-vxPf4

Aren't these rebels Isis, Al queda and other Islamist groups? Western supported no doubt.
What a shit show.
Russia if facing real threat of losing navel base might strike out, ya reckon they'll just take the defeat?
Geez de-escalation is going well with all these wars.

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etarip Sunday, 1 Dec 2024 at 9:36pm

It’s a Star Wars bar @a-m.
Way too complex to ascribe it to a case of Western meddling.
Gulf states (Saudi…) provide much of the financing for the Isis aligned groups, Iran, Turkey have competing interests and proxies. Israel has a hand in undermining Hezbollah (in particular) wherever they can. The Kurds have their own aspirations.
A world of temporary arrangements, strange bedfellows and cooperation / competition. Age old enmities and modern friendships of convenience.