Australia - you're standing in it

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Sheepdog started the topic in Friday, 18 Sep 2020 at 11:51am

The "I can't believe it's not politics" thread.

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Jelly Flater Friday, 15 Nov 2024 at 9:41pm

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andy-mac Monday, 18 Nov 2024 at 9:03am

Sure Tony Abbott and John Howard will be coming forward giving personal support..

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2024/nov/18/alan-jones-arrested-allege...

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blackers Monday, 18 Nov 2024 at 10:51am
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Sure Tony Abbott and John Howard will be coming forward giving personal support..

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2024/nov/18/alan-jones-arrested-allege...

It's good to see him finally get called to account. It should have happened years ago.

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southernraw Monday, 18 Nov 2024 at 4:46pm

If these allegations are true, he should spend the rest of his life in prison.

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TimTam Monday, 18 Nov 2024 at 5:05pm
andy-mac wrote:

Sure Tony Abbott and John Howard will be coming forward giving personal support..

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2024/nov/18/alan-jones-arrested-allege...

Lol. Like Pell.

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TimTam Monday, 18 Nov 2024 at 5:07pm
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If these allegations are true, he should spend the rest of his life in prison.

Is it just one person aged under 18? And just saying, since when did the age category of "teenager" disappear?? A 17yo is not a child.

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GuySmiley Monday, 18 Nov 2024 at 5:59pm

The grifter on the left below is defending AJ today

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Supafreak Monday, 18 Nov 2024 at 6:18pm
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The grifter on the left below is defending AJ today

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What food were they serving at the election watch party ? Let me guess…., McDonalds ?

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AlfredWallace Monday, 18 Nov 2024 at 7:10pm

^ Looks like Gina got to the food before them. She’s carrying a few kegs.

Alan Jones.

One of the worst human beings to ever live in our great country.

The shit current and ex politician puppets will be rooting for him,AW

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GuySmiley Monday, 18 Nov 2024 at 7:26pm

^^ expecting @info to come out strongly against this news given his absolute hatred for the “grooming” of underage children by sexual deviants …. like he did (n’t) against George Pell and all his child grooming priests buddies

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TimTam Monday, 18 Nov 2024 at 8:07pm
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^ Looks like Gina got to the food before them. She’s carrying a few kegs.

Alan Jones.

One of the worst human beings to ever live in our great country.

The shit current and ex politician puppets will be rooting for him,AW

Agreed. Although I would place Little Johnny Howard at the top of the worst list. But there's so many on the right vying for that title. I know the left occasionally throws one up (Latham!!) but what is it about the right, all over the planet, that produces such execrable examples of humanity? Something to do with their ethos perhaps?

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TimTam Monday, 18 Nov 2024 at 8:08pm
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^^ expecting @info to come out strongly against this news given his absolute hatred for the “grooming” of underage children by sexual deviants …. like he did (n’t) against George Pell and all his child grooming priests buddies

Lol. Indo and burley gone very quiet lately.. reality hitting home hehe

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AlfredWallace Monday, 18 Nov 2024 at 8:15pm
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^ Looks like Gina got to the food before them. She’s carrying a few kegs.

Alan Jones.

One of the worst human beings to ever live in our great country.

The shit current and ex politician puppets will be rooting for him,AW

Agreed. Although I would place Little Johnny Howard at the top of the worst list. But there's so many on the right vying for that title. I know the left occasionally throws one up (Latham!!) but what is it about the right, all over the planet, that produces such execrable examples of humanity? Something to do with their ethos perhaps?

Tim Tam. Hi mate.

Agree wholeheartedly. John Howard scum of the earth . Top of the ladder by miles.

The ethos of the Right is no ethics. Most reading from that big fairytale book in the sky.
I’ve mentioned here a few times , my brother once cornered John Howard one on one at the rear of a place in Geelong when he was addressing the Young Liberals years ago.
Howard tried to enter through the rear of the building and my brother looked him in the eye and said you are a fucking scumbag, you should be ashamed of yourself .
It stopped him in his tracks, he looked stunned apparently. AW

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GuySmiley Monday, 18 Nov 2024 at 8:26pm

Hey @AW, Howard wanted to shake my hand once when walking in the Fitzroy Gardens - told him to fuck off

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I focus Monday, 18 Nov 2024 at 8:44pm
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Supafreak Monday, 18 Nov 2024 at 10:35pm

https://x.com/davemcl90813909/status/1858296573069021639?s=46. And Phillip Adams volunteering to be a character witness hahaha https://x.com/phillipadams_1/status/1858278483904045338?s=46 arrested but has he been charged yet ?

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seeds Monday, 18 Nov 2024 at 11:52pm

Bit unimportant but sad to me. More so for the locals but a bit of musical history gone too perhaps. May be repairable.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-18/nsw-town-carinda-loses-pub-genera...

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Supafreak Tuesday, 19 Nov 2024 at 12:30pm
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And a Couple More Charges . . .
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-19/alan-jones-charged-with-additiona...

Hope they took his passport , might be a very long trial , will he live long enough for sentencing ?

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udo Tuesday, 19 Nov 2024 at 1:19pm

NSW Police told the ABC that Mr Jones's passport had been confiscated over fears he would leave the country and not return.

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southernraw Tuesday, 19 Nov 2024 at 1:47pm
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And a Couple More Charges . . .
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-19/alan-jones-charged-with-additiona...

Hope they took his passport , might be a very long trial , will he live long enough for sentencing ?

That's the thing Supa. With his connections and power, he can just drag this out until either 1. he carks it, or 2. its so long in the past and he's a few years older and it just gets dissapppeared. Can't see him spending any time with hardened crims unfortunately. Wish he would. There'd b a few in there that would like to meet him face to face i'd imagine.

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velocityjohnno Friday, 22 Nov 2024 at 4:09pm

"The latest economic complexity rankings put out by Harvard were recently released. Australia dropped from 93 in the world to 102. One place ahead of Yemen, one behind that manufacturing innovator, Senegal."

https://www.strategyaudit.com.au/2024/11/18/australia-slips-another-9-pl...

"According to Australia’s profile in the Atlas of Economic Complexity – which illustrates the ECI performance of 145 countries – the lower result is down to “a lack of diversification of exports”. While these have grown in value by an average of nearly 10 per cent a year for the last five, there is a “troubling⁩ pattern of export growth”.

The major exports are low- and moderate-complexity products. Diversification into new products for the last 15 years shows just one new addition: rare earth metals, which contributed an extra $4 in income per capita in 2022.

“You have fallen just behind Bangladesh and Senegal in what you’re able to produce within your goods exports today… Also Australia has fallen from its ranking of 63rd in the year 2000,” Tim Cheston, Senior Research Manager at the Growth Lab, tells @AuManufacturing.

“So again, falling from 63rd to 102nd shows that we’re consistently going in the wrong direction within this measure of economic complexity.”

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The results predict limited Australian growth prospects, with the researchers claiming a strong correlation between export diversification and GDP expansion.

Ricardo Hausmann, the founder and Director of the Growth Lab, uses an analogy of scrabble tiles. Economically complex nations have a diverse set of letters, with more options for words and the possibility of higher scoring words.

While Australia is the eighth-richest nation by per capita GDP, this is out of step with its complexity. Before us is a deck of vowels.

Economic growth is tipped to be “1.7%⁩ annually over the coming decade, ranking in the ⁨bottom half⁩ of countries globally.”

Cheston cites India and Greece in explaining the predictive power of the ECI.

Back in 2008, India was more complex than you’d expect for its income level.

“India has complied over time and has been one of the fast-growing countries over the past couple of decades. And then if you went back to 2008 and and saw a country like Greece, you’d day, ‘Greece! How did you become so rich? You don’t have the complexity that would sustain your income level,” Cheston says.

“And unfortunately Greece has struggled over the past two decades… The value of this index is not just in explaining differences in income today, it actually is very valuable in predicting your medium-term future in terms of where your growth prospects are for the next decade.”

https://www.aumanufacturing.com.au/australia-goes-from-terrible-to-worse...

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flollo Friday, 22 Nov 2024 at 4:11pm
velocityjohnno wrote:

"The latest economic complexity rankings put out by Harvard were recently released. Australia dropped from 93 in the world to 102. One place ahead of Yemen, one behind that manufacturing innovator, Senegal."

https://www.strategyaudit.com.au/2024/11/18/australia-slips-another-9-pl...

"According to Australia’s profile in the Atlas of Economic Complexity – which illustrates the ECI performance of 145 countries – the lower result is down to “a lack of diversification of exports”. While these have grown in value by an average of nearly 10 per cent a year for the last five, there is a “troubling⁩ pattern of export growth”.

The major exports are low- and moderate-complexity products. Diversification into new products for the last 15 years shows just one new addition: rare earth metals, which contributed an extra $4 in income per capita in 2022.

“You have fallen just behind Bangladesh and Senegal in what you’re able to produce within your goods exports today… Also Australia has fallen from its ranking of 63rd in the year 2000,” Tim Cheston, Senior Research Manager at the Growth Lab, tells @AuManufacturing.

“So again, falling from 63rd to 102nd shows that we’re consistently going in the wrong direction within this measure of economic complexity.”

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The results predict limited Australian growth prospects, with the researchers claiming a strong correlation between export diversification and GDP expansion.

Ricardo Hausmann, the founder and Director of the Growth Lab, uses an analogy of scrabble tiles. Economically complex nations have a diverse set of letters, with more options for words and the possibility of higher scoring words.

While Australia is the eighth-richest nation by per capita GDP, this is out of step with its complexity. Before us is a deck of vowels.

Economic growth is tipped to be “1.7%⁩ annually over the coming decade, ranking in the ⁨bottom half⁩ of countries globally.”

Cheston cites India and Greece in explaining the predictive power of the ECI.

Back in 2008, India was more complex than you’d expect for its income level.

“India has complied over time and has been one of the fast-growing countries over the past couple of decades. And then if you went back to 2008 and and saw a country like Greece, you’d day, ‘Greece! How did you become so rich? You don’t have the complexity that would sustain your income level,” Cheston says.

“And unfortunately Greece has struggled over the past two decades… The value of this index is not just in explaining differences in income today, it actually is very valuable in predicting your medium-term future in terms of where your growth prospects are for the next decade.”

https://www.aumanufacturing.com.au/australia-goes-from-terrible-to-worse...

Don’t even get me started. I don’t want to read it. We’re falling behind, big time. We must be one of the most risk averse countries in the world.

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velocityjohnno Friday, 22 Nov 2024 at 4:14pm

& Sky are reporting on our plunge to the bottom third of world countries by economic complexity as well:

https://www.skynews.com.au/insights-and-analysis/australias-shocking-dro...

How about we just actually make things here?

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velocityjohnno Friday, 22 Nov 2024 at 4:18pm
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Don’t even get me started. I don’t want to read it. We’re falling behind, big time. We must be one of the most risk averse countries in the world.

Make sure you do read it flollo. Add to that most GDP growth is coming from government demand (state and federal) - the thing is a basket case and on the way to a future like Greece at this rate. It's worth being alarmed about. Australia has decimated it's own manufacturing in the last 25 years, because, well, I don't know why it did something so stupid.

So we're not going to get a Ford, Holden, Toyota back; we find complex value adding of our resources hard (like the tale of the old BHP HBI plant) - it's honestly up to us little individuals to kick start making things, for govco and big business certainly won't without major shifts in policy.

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Island Bay Friday, 22 Nov 2024 at 4:29pm

Speaking of risk averse, NZ might just knock you guys out the park: At this year's Xmas parade in Christchurch, anyone on a float must wear a seat belt. And 8% of the NZTA (NZ Transport Agency) budget goes on road cones (witches' hats) and traffic management at road works.

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velocityjohnno Friday, 22 Nov 2024 at 4:34pm

Is that cos Kiwis keep flogging the witches hats? ;)

You guys value add the dairy well though!

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Island Bay Friday, 22 Nov 2024 at 4:39pm

I wish! Nope, just that 'Safety' is a money maker.

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velocityjohnno Friday, 22 Nov 2024 at 4:52pm

And Australia's last wind tower manufacturer just ceased production:

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2024/11/made-in-australia-collapses/

"Mainland Australia’s last wind tower manufacturer will be forced to mothball its plant in a major embarrassment for the ­Albanese government after cheap imports using heavy-polluting Chinese steel have destroyed the local industry and cast a shadow over Labor’s domestic renewables policy.

Keppel Prince has blasted the federal and Victorian governments after a long-running lack of certainty and failure to deal with heavily subsidised Asian steel imports forced the Portland-based manufacturer to close its wind tower manufacturing facility, once one of the nation’s biggest."

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flollo Friday, 22 Nov 2024 at 5:26pm
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Speaking of risk averse, NZ might just knock you guys out the park: At this year's Xmas parade in Christchurch, anyone on a float must wear a seat belt. And 8% of the NZTA (NZ Transport Agency) budget goes on road cones (witches' hats) and traffic management at road works.

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flollo Friday, 22 Nov 2024 at 5:27pm
Island Bay wrote:

Speaking of risk averse, NZ might just knock you guys out the park: At this year's Xmas parade in Christchurch, anyone on a float must wear a seat belt. And 8% of the NZTA (NZ Transport Agency) budget goes on road cones (witches' hats) and traffic management at road works.

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flollo Friday, 22 Nov 2024 at 5:28pm
Island Bay wrote:

Speaking of risk averse, NZ might just knock you guys out the park: At this year's Xmas parade in Christchurch, anyone on a float must wear a seat belt. And 8% of the NZTA (NZ Transport Agency) budget goes on road cones (witches' hats) and traffic management at road works.

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flollo Friday, 22 Nov 2024 at 5:25pm
Island Bay wrote:

Speaking of risk averse, NZ might just knock you guys out the park: At this year's Xmas parade in Christchurch, anyone on a float must wear a seat belt. And 8% of the NZTA (NZ Transport Agency) budget goes on road cones (witches' hats) and traffic management at road works.

Haha, you’re killing me mate…Safety extremism!

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flollo Friday, 22 Nov 2024 at 5:29pm
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And Australia's last wind tower manufacturer just ceased production:

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2024/11/made-in-australia-collapses/

"Mainland Australia’s last wind tower manufacturer will be forced to mothball its plant in a major embarrassment for the ­Albanese government after cheap imports using heavy-polluting Chinese steel have destroyed the local industry and cast a shadow over Labor’s domestic renewables policy.

Keppel Prince has blasted the federal and Victorian governments after a long-running lack of certainty and failure to deal with heavily subsidised Asian steel imports forced the Portland-based manufacturer to close its wind tower manufacturing facility, once one of the nation’s biggest."

So we are pushing for wind turbines while shipping every single piece of equipment from overseas? This is one of the dumbest things I ever heard of.

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stunet Friday, 22 Nov 2024 at 6:42pm
flollo wrote:
velocityjohnno wrote:

And Australia's last wind tower manufacturer just ceased production:

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2024/11/made-in-australia-collapses/

"Mainland Australia’s last wind tower manufacturer will be forced to mothball its plant in a major embarrassment for the ­Albanese government after cheap imports using heavy-polluting Chinese steel have destroyed the local industry and cast a shadow over Labor’s domestic renewables policy.

Keppel Prince has blasted the federal and Victorian governments after a long-running lack of certainty and failure to deal with heavily subsidised Asian steel imports forced the Portland-based manufacturer to close its wind tower manufacturing facility, once one of the nation’s biggest."

So we are pushing for wind turbines while shipping every single piece of equipment from overseas? This is one of the dumbest things I ever heard of.

Shades of the Wollongong stadium debacle. When they rebuilt the western grandstand in 2012 the stadium used Chinese steel, not steel from Bluescope, located barely 2 kms away.