Reasonable surf potential most days

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Ben Matson (thermalben)

Sydney, Hunter and Illawarra Surf Forecast by Ben Matson (issued Friday 8th May)

Best Days: Most days should have fun surf. Only Sat AM is at risk for undersized surf.

Recap: Easing S’ly swell managed occasional 2-3ft sets at south facing beaches on Thursday morning (a little bigger in the Hunter) before easing during the day. Winds were generally light all day from the northern quadrant. Today has seen clean conditions with moderate to fresh NW winds, and a small S’ly swell has provided fun though slow 2ft sets at south facing beaches, up to 3ft+ in the Hunter though very inconsistent at times. 

New S'ly lines at Newcastle this morning

This weekend (May 9 - 10)

Model guidance suggests a slow weekend of tiny waves, but I think it’s quite a way off the mark. 

First up, we’ve seen some small, useful trade swell in SE Qld and Northern NSW over the last few days and this will provide a minor undercurrent of surf both days across Southern NSW. No major size is expected but the odd 1-2ft set can’t be ruled out at exposed beaches. 

Otherwise, we’ve got a couple of active southerly swell sources. 

Locally, W/SW gales exiting eastern Bass Strait later Saturday and early Sunday in conjunction with passing frontal systems will generate some shorty range S’ly swell. The first pulse (early Sun) won’t have much size - just 1-2ft at south facing beaches - but the second, stronger front will provide a mid-late afternoon pulse that should push from 2ft+ up to 3ft+ at south facing beaches right on dark (this swell will then peak early Monday, a little higher). 

The Hunter should see a little more size but the arvo pulse may arrive here too late to be of benefit.

However, the most dominant swell of the weekend will be from a more unusual source. 

The same low responsible for today’s small flukey south swell consolidated nicely south of New Zealand yesterday (just off the ice shelf) and displayed storm force S/SW winds aimed into the south-eastern Tasman Sea. This wasn’t ideally aligned for our region, but we should see a spread of swell back into Southern NSW, resulting in a building S/SE groundswell throughout Saturday towards a peak early Sunday.

Now, the timing on this event is not clear, so I’d be cautious for the early session Saturday - the leading edge is due by mid-morning (earlier on the South Coast) but we may not see an appreciable upwards trend until mid-afternoon. My best estimates are around the 2-3ft+ range at south facing beaches by this time, a little bigger at reliable south swell magnets like the Hunter. 

I’m expecting this swell to peak early Sunday with 3ft+ waves at south facing beaches, up to 3-4ft+ across the Hunter, before size eases steadily through the day. It will have come from a long way away though, so expect very long breaks between sets. And it'll be smaller at beaches not open to the south.

Saturday’s conditions are looking best with freshening NW winds ahead of a W/SW wind change overnight that’ll swing SW through Sunday morning and then trend moderate S’ly into the afternoon.

As such late Saturday and early Sunday is the pick of the forecast period. Just allow for some elasticity on the timing of the S/SE swell, as it’s not a high confidence event. 

Next week (May 11 onwards)

Sunday’s frontal passage should provide a full day of solid surf across south facing beaches on Monday, somewhere between 3ft and maybe 5ft at south facing beaches, a little bigger in the Hunter but much smaller elsewhere. 

There’ll also be some longer period energy in the mix, from the parent low SW of Tasmania on Saturday - so this will provide higher Tp values at the wave buoys but ultimately probably won't contribute a great deal of size (relatively to the mid-range, post-frontal activity).

Easing southerly swells are then expected from late Monday onwards, however we have some fun E/NE swell on the way from a developing sub tropical low currently forming mid-way between Fiji and New Caledonia, that’s expected to intensify nicely north of New Zealand over the weekend (see below). 

The models have upgraded the strength and breadth of this system and also slowed its E/SE track, keeping it a little better in the swell window. As such, our swell prospects have improved since Wednesday's notes (though the models aren’t really picking it up, which is odd). 

Monday and Tuesday should see a small undercurrent of slow E/NE swell in the 2ft+ range, before the stronger energy arrives sometime Wednesday and sees surf size pulse up into the 3ft+ range, holding through Thursday.

Ultimately this low will drift into the NZ swell shadow resulting in a downwards trend at some point, so I’ll take another pass on Monday as the models should have consolidated its forward track. But, I like the look of this event and as long as local winds behave, we'll see some really nice waves.  

Looking further ahead and a powerful polar low will track NE from a position south of SA on Monday, into the lower Tasman Sea by Wednesday, generating strong though acute S’ly swells for sometime around Thursday and Friday. Early indications are for reliable south swell magnets to pick up 3-5ft sets though I’ll fine tune this outlook on Monday. 

Have a great weekend!

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Brens Friday, 8 May 2020 at 6:50pm

Who is the daily reporter for Newcastle? You guys have to really do something about it, consistently grossly inaccurate... I’m not paying a monthly subscription for lies. Eg. 4ft sets this morning gee wiz

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JadeHonds Friday, 8 May 2020 at 7:26pm

Everyone’s scale is different. I agree he is always on the high side in comparison to my size estimates, but just adapt to what he is calling and knock a foot off the reported size.

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Brens Friday, 8 May 2020 at 7:37pm

Overestimation of anything clean regardless of actual wave quality

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Zephyboy Friday, 8 May 2020 at 7:48pm

Very true i asked question few months ago about his size scale on surf report , you can see it 1 foot on cams an report saying it 3 foot.

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jordan.mar Friday, 8 May 2020 at 9:21pm

South swell showing on port Kembla buoy at 196 degrees but no north energy displaying at all. In fact the closest north energy is crowdy head buoy or Coffs

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Anthony Gale Friday, 8 May 2020 at 10:04pm

Can’t rely on them things..

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thermalben Saturday, 9 May 2020 at 7:57am

Kinda hard to be too sure as the data is very noisy, but there's a suggestion that the new leading edge of the new swell has reached the Eden and Batemans Bay buoys (TBH I am expecting higher peak swell periods, but let's monitor through the day). 

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gglendormi Saturday, 9 May 2020 at 9:51am

Pretty slow in a semi reliable south swell magnet near batemans. 2 foot max set very inconsistent.

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thermalben Saturday, 9 May 2020 at 1:32pm

OK, the Sydney buoy picked up Tp of 17s around 10am and the Botany buoy (three hours later) is now registering the same values (for the record, Batemans had the same leading edge around 8am).

Now.. for the surf to build! C'mon...

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jere-my Monday, 11 May 2020 at 10:18am

Hi ben,
mate whats the link to see botany bay buoy’s reading ? Is it on the same manly hydraulics website? Is this one located closer the shore compare to sydney buoy?

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thermalben Monday, 11 May 2020 at 10:39am

Yep, closer to shore. Just out off Kurnell.
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jere-my Monday, 11 May 2020 at 10:48am

Thanks ben appreciated

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jordan.mar Saturday, 9 May 2020 at 3:30pm

Still flat in Wollongong

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Swany Saturday, 9 May 2020 at 6:31pm

Pretty damn fun at tama before dark - shoulder high peaks outta the NE. Clean, consistent and of course hideously crowded.

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gglendormi Saturday, 9 May 2020 at 7:26pm

3 foot at the end of the day on the south coast

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jordan.mar Saturday, 9 May 2020 at 7:28pm

Standard results in wollongong small to flat from south swells and a NE wind swell. Still managed a fun wave but barely 2ft and slow. Hope for more size Tomoz

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Craig Saturday, 9 May 2020 at 7:35pm

Yeah nothing on the beaches.. carn!

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thermalben Saturday, 9 May 2020 at 7:44pm

Bummer. Swell periods came in close to expectations but the bulk swell energy must be located much further behind. Tomorrow AM still has good potential though (Tas was good today).

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thermalben Sunday, 10 May 2020 at 7:31am

Argh! Looks like the swell came up overnight and is now steadily easing. Hsig reached 1.5m at the Botany buoy overnight (with peak swell periods around 15-16 seconds) but it's lost half a metre since 1am, currently sitting at 1.0m. 
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Still, there are some solid waves across the Hunter and even Sydney beaches are seeing some nice lines.






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Craig Sunday, 10 May 2020 at 11:10am

Swell kicked in a bit better mid-morning. 2-3ft across Manly.

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jordan.mar Sunday, 10 May 2020 at 1:48pm

Still not much use in Wollongong. A handful of places slow 2ft plus. Bigger up north but just a big close out

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geoffrey Sunday, 10 May 2020 at 2:36pm

wollongong vs south swell. very standard. keep expectations low and then occasionally you will be nicely surprised.

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Panman Sunday, 10 May 2020 at 7:41pm

Coal coast today had head high sets but bit of a wait
Those south swells always hit or typically miss here

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jordan.mar Sunday, 10 May 2020 at 7:46pm

Ben, interested on the follow up on the ENE swell you mentioned. Any further updates on when the main energy / best conditions will be? And will it be worth taking a day off?

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thermalben Monday, 11 May 2020 at 10:03am

I'll update my thoughts on this later today.

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thermalben Monday, 11 May 2020 at 10:03am

Decent sets on the EB this morning.