Small south swell Tues; marginal surf all week; strong S'ly swell Sun/Mon

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Ben Matson (thermalben)

Sydney, Hunter and Illawarra Surf Forecast by Ben Matson (issued Monday 29th October)

Best Days: Tues: small easing S'ly swell early morning, with offshore windds at south facing beaches. Sat: chance for a late pulse of new S'ly swell. Sun: solid building S'ly swell wuth good winds. Mon: solid easing S'ly swell with good winds early.  

Recap: Small residual south swell through Saturday offered a few options at exposed beaches, before building NE swells provided bigger waves into Sunday, albeit more wind affected, reaching 3-4ft through the afternoon. This NE swell started to ease overnight, and was down to 2ft+ across most beaches this morning, though interesting Cronulla was reporting 3-4ft sets (even more interest as Cronulla doesn’t usually pick up NE swells very well.. was this an earlier than expected south swell?). Regardless, we’ve seen a building south swell through the afternoon at remaining beaches with sets now in the 3ft range, though conditions are bumpy with moderate SE winds. 


Bumpy south swell at Bondi this afternoon

This week (Nov 1st - 4th)

There’s not a lot of surf on offer this week.

Today’s south swell is expected to peak overnight and then begin a steady downwards trend through Tuesday. It’s possibly that south facing beaches may see a few stray 2-3ft sets at dawn, but for the most part we’ll be looking at rapidly abating surf that’ll likely hold in the 1-2ft range for the rest of the day (maybe even smaller late a'noon). The Hunter should see a few bigger sets but it’ll be much smaller elsewhere with today’s early NE swell all but gone.

Conditions look pretty clean for the early session with light variable winds and sea breezes. 

The models have altered the projected storm track for a front crossing Tasmania on Tuesday afternoon and into Wednesday. It’s now expected to be quite zonal (west-west) in alignment, which is bad news for surfers in Southern NSW as it’s unlikely that we’ll see much, if any swell energy bend back into the coast. 

The very tail end of the fetch - across the lower Tasman Sea on Wednesday morning - may provide a small pulse of south swell but it won’t arrive until overnight Wednesday or (more likely) Thursday morning, and even then we’ll probably be looking at a couple of inconsistent feet at south swell magnets at best (showing a little better across the Hunter). Beaches not open top the south will be tiny.

The South Coast stands a chance at seeing a very late pulse of swell from this source on Wednesday afternoon but for the most part Wednesday looks to be very small across most beaches.

Thursday’s minor southerly swell will be accompanied by light variable winds and sea breezes. 

A similarly zonal, but slightly weaker front traversing the lower Tasman Sea on Thursday look like it won’t have enough energy to benefit NSW surfers. As such Friday is expected to finish off the week with tiny residual swells across most beaches, and just a few very small lines at south facing beaches. 

This weekend (Nov 5th - 6th)

Looks like Saturday will kick off with small NE wind waves thanks to a N’ly fetch developing Friday night. Strengthening NW winds will precede a gusty SW change as a vigorous front pushes off the coast, and we should see a very late kick in new south swell: the models only have 1-2ft at 6pm Saturday, but I think we’ll probably see a rapid increase in the last few hours before dusk with 3-4ft sets.

A much more robust succession of fronts through the lower Tasman looks like they’ll be much more meridionally aligned (north-south) than anything we’ve seen in recent weeks, which means we’re looking at a healthy increase in south swell throughout the day. Local winds should remain moderate W/SW thru’ SW for the most part though periods of S/SW winds can’t be ruled out (especially across the South Coast).

Ordinarily, a fetch of this alignment and strength would warrant a slightly smaller forecast, however the anchored, sustained nature of the synoptic flow makes me believe that we’ll properly see surf heights exaggerated across Southern NSW. 

At this stage we’re looking at south facing beaches building to 4-6ft throughout Sunday (peaking in the late afternoon), reaching  3-4ft at remaining beaches with smaller surf inside protected southern corners. 

Next week (Nov 7th onwards)

The parent low to this frontal progression will round the Tasmanian corner on Sunday, and in doing so will contribute slightly smaller sized but slightly longer period S’ly swell across Southern NSW on Monday. Early indications are for freshening NW winds in the morning tending NE into the afternoon, and surf size somewhere in the 4-5ft+ range at south facing beaches (bigger in the Hunter) but smaller elsewhere.

A broad Tasman high is then expected to shunt the Southern Ocean frontal progression to the south, resulting in smaller surf through the middle of the week. There’s nothing else of any significance on the long range charts at this stage.

See you Wednesday! 

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Gyro3000 Monday, 31 Oct 2016 at 5:36pm

The new southerly swell came thru very quick this morning about 11.30 at my illawarra south swell magnet.Amazing how quick it picked up to shoulder high from near flat in 1hour

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James B Monday, 31 Oct 2016 at 7:13pm

Gyro is exactly right, paddled out my local on the South Coast in knee high questionable conditions and within an hour winds died and there were well over-head waves on the low tide. A surprise session and one of the best in the last few weeks .

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thermalben Monday, 31 Oct 2016 at 7:31pm

Nice work lads. Wasn't an unexpected south swell though.. Friday's notes had:

"Strong to gale force SW winds in the wake of the front will kick up a punchy south swell for Monday afternoon that should manage 2-3ft+ sets at south facing beaches, and bigger bombs across the Hunter. Conditions should be clean with mainly moderate W/SW winds and weak sea breezes".

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thermalben Wednesday, 2 Nov 2016 at 8:22am

Wow, there's a curveball.

I haven't had a mystery swell like this for a while - though, I'm wondering if this morning's unexpected 3ft S'ly swell was the same 3-4ft+ swell I called last Friday (for today), but then downgraded in Monday's notes because the storm track went more zonal? I'll have a look.

Either way, one of the major problems with these swells is that WaveWatch III simply doesn't pick them up. You can see our 6am model data for the Northern Beaches (below) has three swell trains: a faint E'ly groundswell of 0.3m at 12.1 seconds, a faint S/SW groundswell of 0.2m @ 13.4 seconds, and some tiny NE windswell.

However around 10pm  midnight last night the Sydney buoy picked up the leading edge of a S/SE groundswell with peak periods almost 15 seconds. At 3am, the swell reached a peak with significant wave heights of 1.4m, and maximum wave heights of 2.7m.

 

With synoptic winds under 10kts around this time (and yesterday's onshores generally light to moderate in strength), the bulk of this energy is therefore groundswell.

This is a LOT bigger than the largest swell train (0.3m) forecast by the wave models - by a factor of almost five.

And this is where the problem lies - the wave model poorly resolves swells originating from flukey swell windows. And while no excuse for not picking it up manually whilst preparing our forecast notes, it makes things a little harder as there are no red flags or clues.

Anyway, I'll have a dig and see if I can get to the bottom of this. Whilst very frustrating, the flip side is that this is the fascinating part of surf forecasting - trying to find the origins of interesting, mystery swells.

One major point of interest will be to debunk the directional data from the MHL buoy. It's known that buoy data sometimes combines (and then averages) swell direction data if there are two concurrent swells with similar periods. With there being an expectation for a faint E'ly swell in the water today, plus the likelihood that this morning's mysto swell is due south (in fact, modeled S/SW), this would confirm that theory as S/SE is almost midway between E and S/SW.

This would also support the theory that this is simply the swell mentioned on Friday but then discounted on Monday (which, from a forecasting point of view, is even more frustrating!).

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Gyro3000 Wednesday, 2 Nov 2016 at 9:15am

Sometimes it just up to Huey. It was groundswell alright. Came up like someone flicked the switch. . Cheers Ben!

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thermalben Wednesday, 2 Nov 2016 at 9:33am

Looks like today's swell was sourced from a low tracking south of Tasmania on Sunday/Monday. 

The three images below show surface winds, in 12 hourly spacings - the purple in the second image depicts 40-50kt.

As you can see, in the first image - Sunday morning - the low is still well to the west of Bass Strait (out of frame, and well outside our swell window).

12 hours later (Sunday night), the low intensifies rapidly S/SW of Tasmania, with 40-50kt SW thru' S/SW winds briefly within a very acute part of our south swell window, still partially shadowed by the Tasmanian land mass. 

And by Monday, it's completely out of the swell window again. In fact the third image (Monday morning) shows the W/SW gales exiting eastern Bass Strait that gave us that nice 2-3ft+ flush of south swell late Monday afternoon and early Tuesday morning, mentioned in the notes above.

So - today's waves were sourced from an intense storm that lasted a very short time within a remote part of our flukey south swell window. And you can see by these three images that the overall storm track was NW to SE (perpendicular to our great circle paths), which is even less favourable for the development of southerly swell in NSW. 

I gotta say, even with the benefit of hindcasting I am extremely surprised that we saw much, if anything - let alone clean lines of S'ly groundswell in the 3ft range.

Another one for the knowledge bank, eh?



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dannyz Wednesday, 2 Nov 2016 at 11:35am

as I'm sure a lot of others do, I use a combination of sites and charts to decied whether or not to get up early and I must say there was one other site that had this swell predicted.. they were sayin 3ft of E and SE.. didn't know what to believe as your forecast was very bleek for this morning but as any surfer would do I banked on that one slight chance and went for it and when i heard the cracking of waves on the reef as i got out of my car this morning I was very very pleased.. not one other soul out there.. yewwww

the mystery of what awaits in the mornings is still alive!

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thermalben Wednesday, 2 Nov 2016 at 11:41am

Which other website forecast 3ft of E and SE swell? I checked the other forecasting sites this morning and they all missed it too.