Very large south swell from late Friday onwards

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Ben Matson (thermalben)

Sydney, Hunter and Illawarra Surf Forecast by Ben Matson (issued Wednesday 16th June)

Best Days: Late Fri/Sat/Sun: large south swell but very windy at times. Mon: mix of E/SE and S/SE swells with improving conditions. Tues/Wed: fun small south swell with good winds. 

Recap: Slowly easing S/SE swell from Tuesday into this morning, with generally light winds and OK conditions. A minor, unexpected E/NE windswell perked up across a handful of exposed beaches mid-morning today, originating from a moderate but otherwise nondescript northerly fetch positioned well off the mainland. 

This week (July 17-18)

Today’s small mix of short range swells will ease further into Thursday and freshening westerly winds will effectively flatten a very lacklustre ocean. 

A vigorous cold front will then cross the coast early Friday morning, bringing south-westerly gales to most regions by mid-late morning (some locations - mainly north of Sydney - will see early W/SW winds). These gales are expected to develop across a broad region of the western Tasman Sea rather quickly, and in doing so will whip up a large south swell that’s due to peak on Saturday as the primary steering system - the Long Wave Trough - anchors itself across New Zealand longitudes. 

The most interesting aspect about Friday's outlook is the speed at which we’re likely to see wave heights ramp up across the coast. Early morning is expected to be very small (1ft south facing tops) but by mid-late morning there should be more visible 2-3ft sets and from then on the increase should kick in relatively quickly, with exposed locations likely to reach 6-8ft+ by the end of the day.

However, with gale force SW winds on hand you’ll have to tuck into a sheltered southern corner for the only rideable conditions. And bear in mind that the bulk of this size will push through really late in the day - so protected corners may not be worthwhile until mid-afternoon onwards.

This weekend (July 19-20)

We’ve got one major change for the weekend forecast since Monday's notes - removing the 6-8ft estimate and replacing it with 8-10ft+ for Saturday at south facing beaches.

Yes, this south swell is going to be very big but there are a few things I don’t like about it - mainly the position of the primary fetch, being located just off the South Coast. In fact the fetch is only modeled to extend south to about Tasmanian latitudes, which means that we’ll see a broad mix of swell periods all arriving at the same time, creating a very confused ocean. Add in a strong to gale force SW tending S’ly airstream and most locations will be a large, blown out mess on Saturday.

As such the best surf will be found at super sheltered locations that will be able to filter out the noise and make sense of the biggest swell trains (albeit at a much smaller size), so hopefully some of the less frequently surfed nooks and crannies will come to life up and down the coast. A slow easing trend is expected throughout the day.

Continually easing swells are slowly abating winds are expected Sunday but surf size is still likely to be well in excess of 6ft+ at south facing beaches early morning. Synoptic winds will also be out of the south at this time but a few select locations (i.e. Northern Beaches) may see an early period of SW winds. Once again protected southern corners will have the best options, and we’ll see a more pronounced drop in size during the day.

Next week (July 21 onwards)

The Long Wave Trough responsible for this swell event will slowly clear east of New Zealand early next week, and as a consequence our southern swell window will start to dry up. But that’s not before a polar low clips the southern Tasman Sea on Sunday, generating a smaller but long period south swell for later Monday and most of Tuesday (inconsistent 3ft+ sets at south facing beaches). This will replace a steadily dropping S/SE swell from the weekend's source.

Conditions will be better by this time but there’s still likely to be a lingering southerly flow on Monday, so early morning will probably haves the best options with a locally induced offshore breeze in many regions. Tuesday should see generally light variable winds as high pressure settles across the region.

Also expected in the water on Monday is a small E/SE swell generated by a secondary low just off the west coast of NZ’s North Island on Saturday morning. No great size is expected here but we might see some fun 2-3ft sets at times, which - mixed in with the easing S/SE swell - could create some fun beach breaks at those locations offering an early offshore wind.

We’re then looking at slowly easing long range south swell from Wednesday onwards, with no other long term swell sources on the charts. Tune in Friday to see if the weekend’s large south swell is still on target!

Comments

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scoopmaster Wednesday, 16 Jul 2014 at 6:01pm

While for the most part I agree with your forecast Ben, I think it's entirely possible that you may have underestimated Friday arvo's potential size a little, and overestimated saturday's size a little (for the south coast anyway). Friday has captured fetch written all over it and combined with the strength of the fetch (45 knots+) and the proximity of the fetch i reckon locations between about wollongong and newcastle have potential for some blown out 10-12' bombs by late arvo. It reminds me of the swell perhaps two years ago that produced extremely large waves at deadmans and only half that size along the south coast.

As for saturday the bulk of the fetch will be located from about wollongong northwards - the hunter and north coast will see far more size than locations further south.

Personally I'm charging the gopro in anticipation of some tube time friday arvo, hopefully the bone chilling temperatures and the fact it's not a weekend will keep the crowds to a minimum - it won't be the sort of conditions conducive to happily waiting your turn!

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thermalben Wednesday, 16 Jul 2014 at 6:20pm

Thanks for the comments SM.. I certainly can't rule out what you're suggesting, but it also depends on which model you're looking at.

The captured fetch scenario really seems to wind up towards the end of the day (in the latest model data), of which ACCESS-R has a nice secondary front pushing into our immediate swell window at 12Z Friday (ie 10pm), which would result in an overnight peak on Saturday. This seems to be the line of best fit between all of the models.

However, our surf forecast model - which is derived from GFS - has a peak lunchtime Saturday (I think it'll happen before this though, probably early Saturday morning).

Anyway, let's wait and see what happens! I love these kinds of dynamic systems.

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scoopmaster Wednesday, 16 Jul 2014 at 6:44pm

I was basing my comments off GFS data which has no sign of the secondary front, instead having a fetch of 45 knot winds off the far south coast friday morning extending up to sydney in the arvo the easing and moving north overnight friday. Personally I'm hoping for this scenario so I can score some waves friday arvo and then avoid any temptation to join the circus at the few obvious locations on saturday morning.

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udo Wednesday, 16 Jul 2014 at 7:27pm

Sorry to keep asking but is this swell any good for the red bull cape fear comp?

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thermalben Wednesday, 16 Jul 2014 at 8:20pm

Nah, not a good direction and too windy. They should have run it last Thursday!

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caml Wednesday, 16 Jul 2014 at 9:15pm

Cape fear was goin off but maybe was too late a notice to call the international guys over . Besides some of them were at Mexico

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mitchvg Thursday, 17 Jul 2014 at 10:48am

Are you welcomeguest's brother?

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gbprophoto Thursday, 17 Jul 2014 at 10:37am

Will this swell be good for Easy Coast Vico? Mainly sheltered areas that only break with SE swell?

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Craig Thursday, 17 Jul 2014 at 11:01am

Not really gbprophoto, swell will get in but winds will be terrible and onshore. What you want is a Tasman Low to stall east of Tassie and provide better SE swell, but this system will generate side-band S'ly swell energy and poor winds.

Here's the Lakes Entrance Forecast: www.swellnet.com/reports/australia/victoria/lakes-entrance/forecast

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freeride76 Thursday, 17 Jul 2014 at 1:47pm

bog standard winter storm swell.

Probably nice enough north of the Byron/Pt Danger bend.

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seal Thursday, 17 Jul 2014 at 2:02pm

Sounds like a bank buster coming for places south of the border. Damn!

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freeride76 Thursday, 17 Jul 2014 at 2:08pm

yep. wind and water moving together= massive sideshore sweep and sand excavation.

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gbprophoto Thursday, 17 Jul 2014 at 2:09pm

Craig, I was more thinking around the Prom

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Craig Thursday, 17 Jul 2014 at 2:17pm

Ah, yeah not worth it. It's not a good system for there, winds are generally S/SW and not too strong through Bass Strait, while further to the east they're out of the Prom's swell window.

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udo Thursday, 17 Jul 2014 at 2:17pm

Freeride, you have a good forecasting brain for far nth coast what do you think size wise around the Byron area ?

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freeride76 Thursday, 17 Jul 2014 at 3:13pm

I think Ben has nailed it in the North Coast f/cast.

The X is in the timing of the frontal passage into the Tasman.....anything earlier than expected could see a late kick on the North Coast Points...that window would be the best of it as far as I can see.

victory at sea on anything with S exposure Sat and tiny in the Bay with massive sweep.

Seen plenty like this, they are always better north of the border. You need to get away from the fetch.

Maybe a little window on the downslope.

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papamurph Thursday, 17 Jul 2014 at 3:42pm

do you think there is any point checking the sunshine coast beachies on saturday morning or are the points the only option?

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thermalben Thursday, 17 Jul 2014 at 4:08pm

(papamurph, your question really should be in the SE Qld/Nthn NSW notes - just in case the info is of use to anyone else)

Anyway, the beachies could have some options with an early SW flow but it'll be straight (not sure of the bank situation ATM). However, this south swell is expected to build all day, so the biggest waves are expected to push through in the afternoon.

As such the early morning could be undersized, esp on the Sunny Coast. Sunday morning is (currently) a safer bet for the most size from this swell.

Also, bear in mind that not all SC points will pick up this swell - I didn't want to mention specifics in the notes, but it goes without saying that the inner Noosa points rarely pick up south swells at all. 

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papamurph Thursday, 17 Jul 2014 at 4:13pm

sorry ben, my first post. will post over there next time. Thanks for the info

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thermalben Friday, 18 Jul 2014 at 9:59am

The BOM were correct to issue a Dangerous Surf Warning today, but they should have been more explicit in the timing as we won't see dangerous conditions until mid-late afternoon (it's been broadcast all over the news channels this AM - insinuating these conditions are happening now - but any non-surfing punters who viewed this beach this morning would have been thinking, 'huh'?).

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thermalben Friday, 18 Jul 2014 at 10:04am

Worth detailing the size increase throughout the day in this thread, with surfcam pics etc.

Early morning was tiny on the Northern Beaches, barely half a foot.

Now 10am and we've got clean 2ft sets starting to appear at Bondi.


Bring on the afternoon!

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thermalben Friday, 18 Jul 2014 at 12:03pm

No signs of anything major yet... Craig reckons he saw a lone 3ft set but I haven't seen much above 2ft yet.



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thermalben Friday, 18 Jul 2014 at 1:16pm

OK, now we're pushing a little closer to 3ft.

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JackStance Friday, 18 Jul 2014 at 2:02pm

It's looking like 2 foot at bommie rights on the thirroul cam..

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thermalben Friday, 18 Jul 2014 at 3:28pm

Slowly.. slowly...