Large, wild and windy - then fantastic
South-east Queensland and Northern NSW Surf Forecast by Ben Matson (issued Friday 28th May)
Features of the Forecast (tl;dr)
- Very large, windy S/SE swell this weekend, peaking later Sat, easing slowly Sun
- Large E'ly swell peaking later today, easing steadily through Sat
- Another large S/SE groundswell for Mon PM, easing Tues, with improving conditions
- Easing swells Wed/Thurs with light winds
Recap
Thursday saw wave heights persist around 4ft from the east, with a slight increase to 4-5ft through the afternoon that's held into this morning, ahead of another solid pulse of E'ly swell due to peak later this afternoon in the 5-6ft+ range. Winds were light north of the border early morning, but freshened from the south through the day; south of the border saw moderate to fresh SW thru' S/SW winds all day. Today we're seeing a broader W/SW flow across most regions with weak sea breezes developing in SE Qld. A S'ly change is pushing up the coast.
This weekend and next week (Jun 4 onwards)
There's no new news for the weekend outlook with no major changes to the synoptic charts, so there’s not much point detailing the obvious. Which is, fresh to strong southerly winds both days, and very large S’ly tending S/SE swells peaking Saturday then easing steadily from Sunday through Monday and into the middle of next week.
However, from a surf perspective there’s a few things the models aren’t picking up well and this will have a greater bearing on your choices over the coming days. So here’s my thoughts on how this event will evolve.
First of all, a renewal of long period E'ly swell is just starting to nose into the coast. And, there's some debate in the Swellnet office as to how much size we'll see. To be up front, I wasn't monitoring the early stages of the low that generated the large E'ly swell this week so I'm not fully in tune with the synoptics - and based on what I see, I'm expecting a peak around 5-6ft+ across exposed coasts later today, maybe holding into the early hours of Saturday morning though easing rapidly through the day.
This is also much higher than model forecasts are estimating. Our Gold Coast datapoint has a peak overnight tonight of 1.7m at 15.7 seconds, but this is in fact combining swell trains (later today, it's showing 1.1m @ 15.6 seconds, along with a primary mid-range E/SE swell of 1.6m @ 11.8 seconds - which disappears at midnight). And, our model-based surf estimate is for around 4ft, so my call for 5-6ft+ is a healthy percentage above that.
But.. Craig (love 'im!) is confident we'll see even more size, with a peak pushing 6-8ft at the swell magnets. We'll have to wait and see who'll win the big brass mug (FWIW, Swellnet developer Jono's prediction is that the swell will rise, but not as big or quickly as we're both predicting, and the buoy data will peak after dark, so nobody will be right and nobody will be wrong).
Anyway, it's all academic as fresh, gusty S'ly winds will confine the only options to sheltered points and protected southern ends.
The main questions are: will the E'ly swell be too big for some regions? And, how will it interact with the increasing S'ly swell, that's forecast to be even larger?
So, on to this S'ly swell. What a doozy.
We're already seeing S'ly swells push across the NSW coast today (biggest in Southern NSW), sourced from SW gales exiting eastern Bass Strait yesterday.
As the frontal sequence moves properly north-east of Tasmania today and the low develops to the east, we’ll see the resulting southerly fetch spread across the breadth of (almost) the entire Tasman Sea. This is a very impressive development.
However, at the peak of the first synoptic amplification, these southerly winds will be aimed towards New Caledonia - slightly off-axis for Northern NSW, even more so SE Qld. Because of the way this system is evolving, the sea state will consist of a broad spectrum of overlapping energies.
There’ll be a few secondary fronts racing around the primary Tasman Low throughout this period, and each will slightly enhance wave heights above usual size estimates, as they’ll have been working on an active pre-existing sea state generated by previous winds.
Swell energy from the south is expected to build all day Saturday, reaching a peak into the afternoon or overnight. South facing beaches south of Byron should reach a solid 12ft+ though it'll be totally unsurfable. Expect large surf almost everywhere, with a lot of water moving around and heavy sweeps. Saturday won't be a day for inexperience.
SE Qld will see much less size though even the semi-exposed points could become overpowered with the size of the swell and the sweep. The S'ly swell will be smaller earlier (though of course, we'll have a strong E'ly swell present), I'm expecting 5-6ft at these spots, pushing 6-8ft+ at exposed northern ends and south swell magnets. Protected inner points will be much smaller.
As for conditions, there’s a chance for early SW winds but only at a small number of locations, such as the southern Gold Coast.
Otherwise, the synoptic S/SW thru’ S’ly breeze will likely override most locations.
On Sunday, surf size will be very large at first, before temporarily easing thanks to the primary low weakening a little on Saturday afternoon. So, expect similar number as per above early morning, easing through the day.
Local conditions will be similar to Saturday though Sunday may see a slightly broader coverage of early lighter SW winds at a few more locations, for a little longer too.
Early next week
Late Sunday is where things get interesting.
On Saturday, a small secondary low is expected to form near the SW tip of New Zealand’s South Island, before slingshotting up along the western flank of the Tasman Low, with a new fetch of storm force S/SE winds (see below).
This fetch will generate the best round of swell of the entire cycle. The leading edge of this new pulse is expected to reach the Southern NSW Coast from very late Sunday, reaching the Mid North Cooast through Monday afternoon and Far Northern NSW late in the day.
The models aren’t really picking this up well, increasing swell periods (at Coffs Harbour) from 12.3 seconds early Monday to 13.2 seconds by lunchtime Monday, so our swell graph isn’t accurately reflecting what will eventuate - which is a kick in surf size back up to 8-10ft at south swell magnets south of Byron for Monday afternoon. I'm expecting this energy to be a little stronger than that seen over the weekend too.Of course, it'll be much smaller at locations with less southerly exposure.
Prior to then - i.e. early Monday - expect a further easing of size from Sunday, down to 6-8ft+ at south facing beaches south of Byron, 3-5ft across most SE Qld beaches and outer points, 6ft+ at south swell magnets.
Monday afternoon's pulse will arrive late north of the border but we should see the semi-exposed points pushing 4-6ft for the late session, and south swell magnets nudging 6-8ft.
Even better, swell direction will be more S/SE, which should allow for a broader spread of size across the region. We'll see moderating S'ly winds trending SW across more locations in the morning (than over the weekend) though exposed locations will still be wobbly and wind affected.
Although the responsible fetch will remain active through Sunday, it will gradually weaken into Monday and slowly rotate outside of our swell window, leading to a steady drop in surf size from Tuesday onwards. That being said, there’s a faint suggestion for yet another secondary front to wrap around the (weakening) Tasman Low on Monday morning, which may slightly arrest the easing trend on Tuesday.
So, let’s peg Tuesday morning around 6-8ft at south facing beaches south of the border (smaller elsewhere), 4-5ft across SE Qld points (6ft+ south swell magnets), easing by a couple of feet into Wednesday morning and then bottoming out in the 2-3ft range in Northern NSW on Thursday. The same size caveats apply for remaining beaches.
Conditions look excellent from Tuesday through Thursday with no synoptic influence and only weak sea breezes at best. So, banks pending, all of next week looks fantastic for surf.
Have a great weekend!
Comments
Solid lines at the Tweed Bar now.
Looks like a good time to take the catamaran out!!!
Great comment. I chuckled!
Lol - you win Don!
I used to surf the A frame lefts that used to form/bouce off the hull of the barge out there. it used to get absolutely fuckin mental, huge, hollow and looong. scary
So in the who gets the forecast right TAB odds I have:
Matson at 3-1...experience should get him close to the mark but I’m a little concerned with recent time away from the forecast desk
Brokensha at 2-1...seems to have his finger on the pulse at the moment but he hasn’t put in his leave application to take a week off yet so even though I’m expecting him to hit the size right it appears it won’t be high quality
Jono at 10’s...tell the IT guy to stick to his coding if he’s going to sit on the fence
All funds raised will go to the Stunet rehab fund...
Ha!
Tweed buoy on the rise after dark, this meteorology gig is easy
18 seconds!
So who won the bet?
The house always wins.
Brokensha still running with 10ft from the east?
Oi, a bit out of context, I said 6-8ft with a few select locations possibly reaching 10ft :p
Pity it looks like it's peaking overnight. See what tomorrow AM brings.
;)
As always, worth every cent of my subscription. thanks for the forecast once again..
I am going with Matson, he hasn't missed a beat for awhile.......
Big dick energy!
Sounds like a Kirra jetski festival. I'll sit it out and wait for next week I think, should be a good show though
Ballina through byron gonna be unsurfable sadly, will be interesting if the S swell wraps into the bay though
Be careful at the Bay - Jimmy Young Whitford copped a Kooks log to the face out there today.
Jimmy
Bloody hell, these idiots need to stay out of busy breaks, go to wategoes way easier for beginners
Any chance of SW offshores on Sunshine Coast. It’s blowing W now. But there’s S rolling up through NNSW
My money is on meticulous intuitive Ben.
Hey Ben why is the kings beach cam consistently broken? It's frustrating for subscribers at the bottom end of the sunny coast not to get a visual of what's actually going on, nearest working cam at the mo is point Perry or burleigh..., would like to get the spin offs for what we are paying for....
Broken hardware (was detailed in the comments of a previous FC Notes a week or so ago). We traveled up to replace hardware last week - thought it was faulty modem and/or UPS - but ended up being the camera, which we didn't have a replacement for at the time. However, I've managed to source some gear and will look to replace this and the Coolum cam (which also died a few days ago) next week. Just gotta slot it in and around busy work schedules. Thanks for your patience.
Thanks for the explanation Ben, like a good forehand attack make it snappy mate
Ooh, yeah, get those cams panning as well when you set them up.
Colum and Kings had super limited view, Alex limited too but not as bad.
The location of all those cams is excellent, makes up for lack of cam replays and small number of cams on SC.
Hey Ben, are there any plans on fixing the Moffat beach cam?
Never seen waves break this far out off Gallows before.
Pushy, burgery 6ft S swell here with very odd bigger sets in a strong S sea state.
almost no sign of any E swell left.
2/10
8-10 ft here at local bommie...crew of about 6/8. Enough W in the wind to be just surfable. Tide isn’t helping...be interesting to see this arv...
surfable here, if you don't mind a half hour paddle to catch a burger.
probably end up at 2-3ft Pass.
edit: bigger now. still very low quality.
Surfed mid Gc beachies.. early - 4 foot, a bit slow, but a lot of push in the swell, pretty hollow - felt mostly easterly.
South winds has arrived and swell has gone south now 3-4ft I would say atm....
Amazin GB differe NC e in size!!
Craig for the win. Not in doubt.
hmm, what an amazing swell, but a bit underwhelming on the points. the only hollow point is too quick with the long straight lines and low tide. everywhere else is very crowded.
Such an over hyped swell. The easterly swells over the last few weeks have been 10x better.
Second that
I wonder where the 6m from the forecast is, cause it certainly barely went over 2m at Coolangatta
6m Max height on most of the wave buoys
The wave height at the tweed buoy has been 2m and 4m at Byron.
Yet more proof anything over 8s is usually trash for QLD
amazing white line fever surf in NENSW.
windy as Torryn Martins Scottish sessions with a ruler edged sandbar.
crazy, crazy windy stuff.
Tell more please
Pass Cam rewind.
Windy as Maalaea
Wonder how the lightweight epoxies went out at the pass today?
Beautiful fetch in SE Tasman last 12 hours
coastal watch/surfline reports once again are BS at 6-10 caba and 10-15 at casuarina and a 15-20ft at Hastings the gold coast says 6-10 most places lucky to be overhead seriously if it wasn't for the cams they have here and overseas you wouldn't pay for the crap reporting
Do they report in wave face heights?
Pretty sure they report drug induced fantasy.
Lol! Nice one.
Another big south swell underperforms in se qld. Surprise!
L.O.L.
South Swells
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The “south” swell was/is largely a non-event on the Sunshine Coast...barely worth surfing compared to the east swell on Friday which was absolutely smokin...
I mean name a good south swell that pumped on the SC & GC, apart from the handful of magnets. Was never going to be epic. What surprises me on the number crew that are disappointed…
Is that predicted swell that hasn’t eventuated yet still on its way possibly delayed ?? As in will it arrive tomorrow instead or has the whole next few days outlook been downgraded? Not too keen on the idea of 2ft sloppy overcrowded snapper if that’s what’s it’s going to look like for the next few days .Thanks
When has a sth swell with a strong sth wind ever been good? The points were less crowded with the east swell. Got some of the longest waves of my life at the pass. The bank is unbelievable.
Yeah true but I thought it was heading more east in direction over next few days ?
Long been a believer that 2 - 4 foot of east swell with offshore winds is optimal for the Sunshine Coast. Spreads the crowd, allows numerous places to work, everyone happy and smiling.
I've got a 6'10 in the garage freshly waxed about three south swells ago, that hasn't hit the water yet. South swells are less than useless here on the Sunny Coast, unless combined with w or NW winds, which is super rare.
I'm a keen grommet mentality, but apart from clubby board paddles with my kids, I havent surf this whole "swell event".
Bring it on Huey!
Started to pump late last night, and looks even better this morning without the weekend Brisso crew. Highlight was watching Kerzy light the place up in the Snapper Boardriders final...the guy is next level good.
Groovy!
Looks like today's new SE groundswell is running a little ahead of expectations. Very strong, sizeable surf across Northern NSW right now.
I wouldn't call it a new SE groundswell, it's just the swell angle clocking around from the parent low tracking cross the Tasman and re-flaring up.
biggest surf of this swell here though.
just watched Rasta solo-surf a wild 8ft+ wide Point bank.
big hollow tubes, constant paddle. he snapped his first board in three places.
nightmare getting off the rocks.
no other takers.
Totally new SE groundswell today Steve.
Especially with the projection of gale to severe-gale SE winds off the southern tip of NZ.
Shows on the charts clear as day as new pulse as well.
Today things are serious across the East Coast.
it's swell coming from the same system Craig.
A new swell in my books comes from a new/different source fetch.
But my grounding comes from Pat Caldwells NOAA forecasts. He calls the different swell angles as systems move across the North Pacific.
Doesn't (or didn't) call them new swells.
Thats misleading imo.
Yeah there are lots of swells that start from the south and say tend south-southeast and south-east as a new ridge of high pressure builds.
But seeing as this was a new/different fetch embedded in the all encompassing Tasman Low and with a defined swell front from also a much different angle, rather than tending south-east, this has to be labeled as a proper new swell.
I don't think it was a defined swell front at all, at least from my observations.
swell tended more S/SE yesterday and has clocked around a few more degrees today and muscled up.
I think it's a bad convention to label it "new" swell when it's coming from the same parent low.
but to each their own.
Gotta disagree sorry.
The weekend down here was all mid-period energy with a bit of size but without any overall push and punch to it.
Today is a much different scenario, large, long-lined and drawn out sets with 3-4 seconds more period.
The period hasn't just slowly drawn out, it's jumped with the new swell front and the ocean is a totally different story today. Reefs that were listless on the weekend are now offering 6-8ft heaving freight trains.
Only way to settle this is Thunderdome. Two men enter....one man leaves.
Was pumping anyway you slice it.
Haha, yep!
Just for arguments sake FR, because i read this and had to have a good think about both cases, and i can see merit in both.
But hypothetically, imagine that low that's out there now just stayed there for the next 300 days and didn't budge. And in that 300 days, it flexed and weakened over and over again, one week 1 foot waves from it, the next 8 foot, etc....would you still on day 288 after 10 days 2 foot waves from it, still call it the same swell when a part of the system cranks up again and sends 10 foot waves in from it?
And to be honest, i'm not sure i even believe myself on this one because i'm tending to lean towards your side of the argument the more i think about it.
Don't make me make a GIF of the whole evolution of the low ;p
Haha.
Actually its the same one that sent swell to rotto for finals and to Bali yeah? So under FRs theory it's the same swell.
Haha, yep remnants of it!
not much getting into the GC which is to be expected. Give me east swell anyday,
yeah full on ground swell here 8-10 probably ...and going to redesign a lot of beaches.....
Buoys all confirmed as well, pinging hard with the new swell.
Certainly looks like a new swell on the Tweed buoy.
Tweed offshore buoy really showing the new long period energy well.
Byron looking quite incredible.
Just for the record, thought I'd highlight a few sentences from last Wednesday's notes regarding the upcoming swell for the weekend (gone) and early part of this week (i.e. now).
"Honestly, the weekend looks a little too complex, large and windy to really find anything amazing - though still possible - so if you’re going to put in any miles, aim for unusual spots or super protected locations, and keep your expectations low. Big swell doesn’t necessarily equate to fantastic surf."
"In summing up the upcoming southerly event, I reckon the best waves will probably occur early-mid next week once things start to settle down. So, play the long game over the coming days and don't get too hyped up about the weekend, we there’s no shortage of energy inbound and we'll see waves for most of next week anyway."
And then in Friday's notes:
"Late Sunday is where things get interesting. On Saturday, a small secondary low is expected to form near the SW tip of New Zealand’s South Island, before slingshotting up along the western flank of the Tasman Low, with a new fetch of storm force S/SE winds (see below). This fetch will generate the best round of swell of the entire cycle."
Yep nailed it Ben, the weekend as has been discussed by all wasn't going to be flash out of the south with all that wind. The east swell was the promising part for protected points Saturday but it looked like that came in more around Ben's expectations. Udo did tell me it was 6-8ft out of the east Sat AM ahead of the large south push.
The good stuff is in now and will play out all week.
What was Ben's expectations from that east swell for late Friday/Sat?
As per the notes above:
"based on what I see, I'm expecting a peak around 5-6ft+ across exposed coasts later today, maybe holding into the early hours of Saturday morning though easing rapidly through the day."
Though, Craig was referencing the weekend's south swell event.
Any news on Jimmy Young Whitforde head injury ?
recon byron hospital would be working overtime today ...the pass is a zoo so many dropins and people getting run over....fuk me what a joke
Yeah, also surfed there and didnt enjoy the vibe at all, Like superbank on a cyclone saturday.
I watched the camera for a bit about an hour ago, and it looked like a fucking circus.
As DH always says ...best waves are halfway down the line away from the first section madness.
Looks and sounds deadly!
Big lines at the Superbank now. Closing out through Rainbow.
Still only 3-4 foot max at Cooly. Rainbow closes out at 2 foot on low tide now with that massive slug of sand sitting in the middle of the bay.
Greenie is petty shit overall at the moment as well. Its all about the next point north..
that slug of sand has ruined so many potentially good days for rainbow and greeny. anyone know if there are plans to get rid of it or do we just have to wait months for nature to take its course? would love it if they dredged it and put it somewhere useful. even the next point north is struggling a bit on low tide with these long straight lines. most waves are running way too fast to make
Pass was looking the goods most of the day, even though im hanging for a good surf there's no way i can be bothered dealing with all those wankers, hopefully goes off the rest of the week at the rest of the spots :)
Was still massive this morning down around ballina too, unsurfable though, saw on guy doing step offs