Long run of sizeable E'ly swells ahoy!

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South-east Queensland and Northern NSW Surf Forecast by Ben Matson (issued Wednesday 9th December)

Best Days: Thurs: Fun S'ly swell in Northern NSW with early light winds. Only small in SE Qld. Sat onwards: building E'ly swell, which is expected to remain strong for the following week and a half at least. Plenty of large days in the mix, tho' wind affected at times (best suited to SE Qld points). 

Recap: Easing N/NE windswells maintained occasional 2ft sets at exposed north facing swell magnets on the Gold Coast early Tuesday, before easing during the day. Surf size was smaller elsewhere. A southerly change extended across the region during the day, building S’ly windswells that reached 3ft+ this morning, before fading in size through the day. A new S’ly groundswell reached Sydney mid-late this morning, and has nosed into the Mid North Coast this afternoon, showing 3ft to almost 4ft sets at south swell magnets for the late session. Mainly S’ly winds this morning (light and variable in a few locations, generally south from Yamba) have swung E’ly this afternoon throughout SE Qld and NE across Northern NSW.

New S'ly swell in Coffs this evening

This week (Dec 10 - 11)

Unfortunately, the new S’ly swell currently building across Northern NSW will probably peak overnight and then ease gradually through Thursday morning. 

The Northern Rivers stands the chance for the most size (and slightly longer tail of the energy) early morning, but size will ease steadily during the day. As such, make the most of the morning session, when we should see occasional 3-4ft sets at south swell magnets south of Byron, though smaller elsewhere during to the direction (the Mid North Coast may be smaller, as the swell will be drying up from the south earlier). Freshening afternoon NE breezes will render most breaks quite choppy after lunch.

North of the border, this south swell won’t offer much size away from exposed northern ends (occ 2ft+ sets). Most outer points and open beaches will probably struggle with slow 1-1.5ft sets tops. 

An approaching southerly change across Southern NSW Thursday afternoon is expected to stall across the Mid North Coast early Friday morning with a troughy pattern enveloping the coastal margin, so the wind outlook to finish the week is a little unsure - though light variable breezes are likely through the morning, before the trough pushes onshore during the day, bringing with it freshening easterly winds.

At this stage there won’t be much new swell on offer, just a mix of energy from previous days with perhaps a minor boost in short range S/SE energy across the Mid North Coast, associated with Thursday’s southerly change (to the south). Exposed beaches in Northern NSW may see stray 2-3ft sets (mainly in the south) but we’ll struggle to see much more than 1-2ft north of the border. It’s not worth getting too excited about.

Late afternoon may herald the start of the weekend’s building E'ly swell across SE Qld - but it’ll be low quality and probably no major increase in size, just a foot or so. But it will be worth keeping an eye on the surfcams from about lunchtime onwards. 

This weekend (Dec 12 - 13)

Wow, what an outlook!

First things first: another series of fronts below Tasmania over the coming days will generate small sideband south swells for the weekend, perhaps 2-3ft at south facing beaches south of Byron very late Saturday and through Sunday.

Now, on to the main focus for the weekend, a stationary ridge of high pressure will linger across the southern Tasman Sea from Friday through much of next week, cradling a deepening trough across the Coral Sea. This trough - or E’ly dip, as it’s expected to evolve towards within a few days - will slowly track S/SW all weekend, with its axis due about east of Byron by Sunday night (most of its swell generating potential will be south and east of this position). It's an exciting synoptic chart. 

The two main things we need to know about this pattern is (1) we’ll see building E’ly swells all weekend, and they’ll become quite large into Sunday, and (2) winds will strength as the E’ly dip approaches, however they'll veer from the E/SE to the SE and then S/SE as this occurs. Though, it’ll happen earlier up north and later down south.

How big? Models have intensified this system since Monday’s notes were prepared, and to be honest late Sunday looks like it’ll overpower most coasts with 6-8ft+ surf across most regions. The upside is that locations north from about Byron should see winds veer near-southerly at some point, which will assist sheltered locations and points able to handle the size. 

Northern NSW looks very tricky though as winds will remain E’ly up to the trough’s axis (so locations south from about Byron may remain onshore for the entire period).

Prior to this, Saturday will be smaller - though still strong, and rapidly increasing from 3-4ft to 4-6ft throughout the day. Again, SE Qld should fare a little better wind wise with a better chance for more S/SE thru SE (than E/SE) in the wind direction.

 But, we really need a few more days to firm things up.

Oh yeah, it’s gonna be wet too.

Next week (Dec 14 onwards)

The approaching E’ly dip will slide south of our region through Monday, allowing winds to eventually become light and variable through Monday - though delayed south from Byron. I’ll have a better understanding of the timing in Friday’s notes. 

As for size, Monday will be very large across the Mid North Coast (8-10ft easy) but size will be smaller as you head north, thanks to the alignment of the fetch. That being said, it’ll still be very strong across SE Qld, probably still 6ft+ on the Gold Coast (smaller Sunshine Coast), easing to 4-5ft on Tuesday thanks to the tail of the fetch remaining active across the Northern Tasman Sea into the new week. The fetch will be slow moving too, so it should enhance wave heights compared to an otherwise mobile source. 

As such, I think the backside of this swell could provide the best waves. If nothing else, aside from light variable winds (don’t worry about the northerly risk in the model guidance just now), everyone will be buggered from three days of heavy short range surf. 

And it doesn’t end there.

Over the weekend, a tropical cyclone is expected to develop north-west of Fiji, and then slide south to about Vanuata’s latitude by Monday. Whilst the models are not yet confident on whether this cyclone will actually push clear into our swell window, a major supporting ridge stretching form the northern Tasman Sea all the way back into the South Pacific will maintain healthy E’ly swells for the long term, building from Friday through Monday or Tuesday of the following week, and likely holding for a few days at strength. 

Early indications are that surf size won’t drop below 3-5ft at exposed beaches for this entire time frame, and could peak near 5-6ft+ around Monday - and that's without any direct enhancement from the cyclone. If the cyclone drops into our swell window, then the size potential will only go up more - it’s a big, beefy system whose slow moving characteristics close to the mainland are ideal ingredients for a very significant easterly groundswell event. But, let's not get ahead of ourselves just yet.

So, waves for days! And no need panic around the first few pulses either, you’ll need to conserve energy for the long haul.

See you Friday!

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thermalben Wednesday, 9 Dec 2020 at 7:52pm

How's these colours at Burleigh this arvo?

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t-diddy Thursday, 10 Dec 2020 at 5:33am

amazing ! looks like the sand is gone

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dangerouskook2000 Wednesday, 9 Dec 2020 at 8:24pm

that swell turned up this morning ben. about 3 ft sets on tweed. tide was fucked for the early tho. hope tomorrow shapes up a bit better. wind looks better anyway

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thermalben Wednesday, 9 Dec 2020 at 8:32pm

It's a different S'ly swell (which was expected too), sourced from the tail end of the southerly change we saw Tues. Looked pretty small and weak late this afternoon when I drove past though (had already eased).

It's hard to track new S'ly swells with MHL buoy data all over the shop, but it's probably somewhere north of Coffs and south of Byron right now. Leading edge should appear on the Tweed buoy before midnight. 

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dangerouskook2000 Wednesday, 9 Dec 2020 at 8:53pm

sick. thanks Ben. yeh it was pretty flat this arve. I love how its completely flat one day and next is pumping. Catches a lot of people out and can get good uncrowded waves with luck. hopefully the same will happen tomorrow

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Rockethut Wednesday, 9 Dec 2020 at 8:41pm

Yeh saw that too today. Does that mean theres no sand left? Many rocks exposed now...will be interesting to see how the point handle this swell. They haven't seen a proper swell like this in many months.

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freeride76 Wednesday, 9 Dec 2020 at 9:01pm

sand is going to be the major issue.
I'm keeping froth subdued until I see how this swell both is translated into surf by the banks and impacts those banks.

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_Bodhi_ Wednesday, 9 Dec 2020 at 10:36pm

Wow, there’s a lot going on, interesting times ahead. Thanks

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tomrnoir Wednesday, 9 Dec 2020 at 10:44pm

The sand at Noosa has been terrible lately. I wouldn't go there just for everyone's info.

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richard187 Wednesday, 9 Dec 2020 at 11:02pm

the sand is the best ive seen at other breaks south of byron, that were shit when noosa was all time 2 years ago. swings roundabouts

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Tristan Goose Thursday, 10 Dec 2020 at 9:53am

yeah no shape at all, such a shame

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boogiefever Thursday, 10 Dec 2020 at 6:47pm

@tomrnoir huh? I got some sick little runners there this morning. Was like a mini rainbow bay. Sand seemed all time. This swell is gonna awaken the beast!!!! Keep it quiet tho......Best early xmas present ever.....

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richard187 Wednesday, 9 Dec 2020 at 10:57pm

The 13th is my birthday :) wifes gunna kill me

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donweather Wednesday, 9 Dec 2020 at 11:21pm

Ben I don’t understand the mainland comment?

it’s a big, beefy system whose slow moving characteristics close to the mainland are ideal ingredients for a very significant easterly groundswell event.

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thermalben Thursday, 10 Dec 2020 at 5:43am

Closer to the mainland = bigger size prospects.

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donweather Thursday, 10 Dec 2020 at 2:00pm

But aren’t you talking about the TC up near New Cal/Fiji?

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thermalben Thursday, 10 Dec 2020 at 3:02pm

I'm banking on it moving from that position.

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thermalben Thursday, 10 Dec 2020 at 6:08am

Still some size at Coffs outta the south this morning.

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tiger Thursday, 10 Dec 2020 at 7:10am

I've been riding the model run roller coaster all week, and my froth has slowly turned to concern. Mainly due to poor conditions, and the damage it will do to a particular sand deposit which is beautifully set up ATM. The rest of the banks could do with a bit of a shake up otherwise. Here's hoping for a couple of windows on the upside, and something remaining for the long game!

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dangerouskook2000 Thursday, 10 Dec 2020 at 7:33am

Hey Ben that swell this morning was a non event. Looks like it must’ve peaked overnight like you said coz it’s tiny and barely breaking. Just commenting so we can relate this back to the fore/hindcast. Pity I was looking forward to it. Tide high too which wouldn’t have helped

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thermalben Thursday, 10 Dec 2020 at 7:41am

Hmm, still 3ft+ in Coffs! High tide was early morning, but it wasn't especially large so that shouldn't have impacted things too much.

Tweed buoy trace (see below) shows the new swell arriving just after 6pm last night, and easing steadily overnight (so, it came and went under the cover of darkness). But.. odd that Coffs still has lingering sets - the swell should be easing there first. 

Perhaps you observed through an extended slow/lully period?

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Craig Thursday, 10 Dec 2020 at 8:05am

Also 3ft waves on the Goldy south magnet..




Can see lots of activity south of the border as well in the 3ft range.

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dawnperiscope Thursday, 10 Dec 2020 at 8:50am

the odd one like that on the tweed but super long wait between waves, no banks on the high anyway. Fingers crossed for another pulse still on the way for the low (sydney buoy peaked again at 5pm last night)

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donweather Thursday, 10 Dec 2020 at 2:02pm

It was a lake at the usual south swell magnet over the border today.

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freeride76 Thursday, 10 Dec 2020 at 8:08am

very weak sauce here.

1ft. no real spots.

these south swell pulses have been a Fail. And today is the last day.

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freeride76 Thursday, 10 Dec 2020 at 9:09am

northerly on it now.
thats all she wrote.

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crg Thursday, 10 Dec 2020 at 9:14am

Still a bit of swell down here on the magnets and light N winds...just had a quick fun morning rinse.
The wind forecast down here for this swell looks horrible...gonna be a mess for us.

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Tristan Goose Thursday, 10 Dec 2020 at 9:55am

mannnnn those westerlys forecasted for monday got me dreaming

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donweather Thursday, 10 Dec 2020 at 2:03pm

You’re assuming there will be some form of a sandbank left after Sunday’s bank busters.

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freeride76 Thursday, 10 Dec 2020 at 2:28pm

crossing of whatever low pressure trough or surface low develops somewhere between Fraser and the border is going to bring flooding or serious rain and gale force onshores - likely a major re-arrangement of banks.

that'll set the tone for anything going forwards.

small window of surf on the approach.

all bets are off in the aftermath.

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Blowin Thursday, 10 Dec 2020 at 2:37pm

Brown water ahoy Cap’n.

Bull sharks off the starboard bow.

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freeride76 Thursday, 10 Dec 2020 at 3:15pm

hahaha, I foresee a few sessions on the break wall throwing hardbodies at floodwater jew.
in which case, bring it on.

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tomrnoir Thursday, 10 Dec 2020 at 3:21pm

These beachie-overpowering swells with accompanying onshores aren't that exciting tbh. Surfers across a region being confined to 1-2 point breaks isn't ideal.

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juegasiempre Friday, 11 Dec 2020 at 10:56am

lol. Welcome to SEQLD.

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donweather Thursday, 10 Dec 2020 at 4:23pm

Of great interest is certainly this next system out near new Cal/Fiji!!!

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sneakerset Thursday, 10 Dec 2020 at 5:04pm

Hi Ben,

I'm curious as to whether any of your models are showing the potential collision of that tropical cyclone with that southerly front moving North over the next few days?!
Beast-front or mega-cyclone ? I'm sure you've got a special meteorological term for it :)

Hopefully, it doesn't turn into a mega bank busting, coastal scourer.

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Blowin Thursday, 10 Dec 2020 at 5:48pm

Frontnado

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freeride76 Friday, 11 Dec 2020 at 6:54am

E'ly flow has kicked in.

strap in, it's gunna be a wet and wild ride.

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thermalben Friday, 11 Dec 2020 at 7:04am

Gotta say, the latest model runs re: tropical cyclone are incredible. Six, maybe seven days inching S/SW between Fiji, Vanuatu and New Caledonia, much of which could be at Cat 4/5 strength.

Watch the animation: https://www.swellnet.com/reports/australia/queensland/gold-coast/wams

All tropical cyclones are likely to cause some kind of damage, but in the same way slow moving/stationary thunderstorms are often responsible for local flooding events, a slow moving Cat 4/5 tropical cyclone will be catastrophic if it makes landfall (or even gets close to the coast), because its effects will be sustained over a much greater period of time, compounding the destruction.

Its swell potential also increases a lot though right now - relative to the Australian East Coast - most of that development is modeled to occur generally within the New Cal swell shadow (still early days though).

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donweather Friday, 11 Dec 2020 at 8:20am

Yes my thoughts exactly when I saw how slow it was forecast to move. My prayers go out to the people in those areas.

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bluediamond Friday, 11 Dec 2020 at 4:30pm

Would be great if it stuck to that track and slipped straight down the guts between the island chains. Imagine the swell NZ Nth on Nth Island will be getting with that captured fetch if it follows that predicted path!!

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freeride76 Friday, 11 Dec 2020 at 8:35am

JTWC has two areas of tropical depression being monitored with 90P expected to absorb 91P after a brief period of fujiwhara interaction and then cyclogenesis.

Fiji looks to be spared.

I'd say New Cal is at most risk.

what happened to the cyclone warning thing that was being spruiked earlier on? is that still around?

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bruzzz Friday, 11 Dec 2020 at 8:36am

Northerlies ruining next week’s swell ?

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Blowin Friday, 11 Dec 2020 at 8:37am

Fujiwhara interaction is the worst !

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thermalben Friday, 11 Dec 2020 at 10:55am

Just back on y'day's south swell - I personally didn't get a chance to check it in the AM, but on the usual arvo drive-by (6pm), saw some leftover 2ft, almost 2-3ft sets at an exposed beach.

However, I spoke to a mate - a reliable source - who was at the same beach all day, and reckons it pulsed from really small through the morning, to 3-4ft around the middle of the day.

This observation is also reflected in the Tweed buoy spectral data (see below) however the trace since then suggests it may have actually been associated with a third (unexpected) S'ly pulse.

For the record, this morning looked slow 2ft-ish.

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donweather Friday, 11 Dec 2020 at 2:38pm

If this TC does eventuate as forecast, looks like some damn impressive swell periods coming our way out of the E/NE. Certainly won't have seen those sort of swell periods from that direction in some time (17-18 sec).

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thermalben Friday, 11 Dec 2020 at 2:58pm

Theoretically, peak swell periods should be much higher (for the given fetch strength) - but the short travel distance may not allow them to reach full potential. So, you're probably close. 

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tomrnoir Friday, 11 Dec 2020 at 4:17pm

RE the upcoming events - I'm probably reading this wrong but the significant wave heights post-Tuesday don't bode well for anything over 4-5ft. My amateur analysis shows the Cyclone too far offshore to replicate the epic surf seen w/ Oma & Uesi.

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thermalben Friday, 11 Dec 2020 at 4:34pm

It's not the distance that will affect wave heights, it's the shadowing (behind New Cal).

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freeride76 Friday, 11 Dec 2020 at 2:41pm

still got to come. out of the New Cal pipe.

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Mcface Friday, 11 Dec 2020 at 4:56pm

There's been a lot of discussion before about the implications of having NZ disappear and what that would mean for the East Coast's surf potential, but has anyone speculated what the cyclone swell potential would be had some of these Pacific island/coral sea islands disappeared? Ben successfully made the case to keep NZ but i reckon there'd be some cracker systems forming up there that are routinely shadowed by New Cal and Venuatu

Not to trivialize the enormity of the situation for these people who are currently wrestling with a potentially destructive and slow moving cyclone on their doorstep. First and foremost I really hope that whatever develops stays away from them.

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freeride76 Friday, 11 Dec 2020 at 5:51pm

Not so much Vanuatu but Grand Terre is a major swell blocker.

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nick.minor Friday, 11 Dec 2020 at 5:58pm

Isn't this a bit overly simplistic? The island is 400 ks long in an ideal orientation for swell blocking but doesn't the associates cyclonic winds extend past?

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donweather Friday, 11 Dec 2020 at 8:51pm

Look at the reefs either end of the island too. That kills any swell trying to wrap around the islands.

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freeride76 Friday, 11 Dec 2020 at 9:04pm

so many times systems sit in that window between Fiji, Vanuatu and New Cal, often for days but swell is completely blocked.

this system is a classic case in point.