A dynamic coupla weeks ahead

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Ben Matson (thermalben)

South-east Queensland and Northern NSW Surf Forecast by Ben Matson (issued Friday 24th July)

Best Days: Sat: building E/NE tending E'ly swells though with tricky winds (mainly onshore). Sun: punchy E'ly swells with light winds tending offshore (expect a delay in the south). Mon/Tues: strong though easing E'ly swells with offshore winds. Tues/Wed: building S'ly swells in Northern NSW. Later next week onwards: more strong E'ly and SE swells. 

Recap: Easing S/SE swells managed 2-3ft sets across the Gold Coast Thursday (smaller Sunshine Coast) and 3-4ft south from Byron. Today’s seen building S/SE groundswells across the Mid North Coast this afternoon (from 3ft to 3-4ft) whilst SE Qld has seen a steady mix of SE swells (including some new short range energy) in the 2-3ft range. Winds have been mainly S’ly across all northern coasts for the last few days, though the Mid North Coast was variable yesterday and SW today.

D'Bah looking fun this morning

This weekend (July 25 - 26)

There’s no major changes to the weekend forecast. 

The coastal trough responsible for all of this rain will probably form a small low into Saturday, which will then slowly track southwards into Sunday ahead of some explosive developments off the Southern NSW coast on Monday.

A strengthening E’ly fetch into the trough is generating building short range swells that will reach a peak in size late Sat/early Sun across SE Qld, though the peak (and indeed, the upwards phase of this event) will occur later with increasing southerly latitude. Surf size should peak in the 5-6ft range at most coasts with parts of Northern NSW (mainly the southern end) possibly seeing some bigger waves near 6-8ft into Sunday afternoon. 

More importantly, as the trough/low moves south, we’ll see an abrupt change in wind speeds and direction. This is is crucial for surf prospects as it’ll rapidly improve surf conditions: prior to then, we’re at a much greater risk of gusty onshore winds associated with the southern flank of the trough. 

At this stage, Saturday looks onshore for most regions. We may see pockets of light winds here and there but you’ll have to prepare for benign conditions in general. 

High res modelling has the Sunshine Coast seeing variable winds through Saturday afternoon, spreading to the Gold Coast overnight and then remaining Northern NSW coasts through Sunday morning. There won’t be much strength in the wind on Sunday so expect lumpy lineups but improving wave faces. The Mid North Coast is likely to see a later improvement in conditions, due to the timing of the trough/low’s southerly path.

Next week (July 27 onwards)

East Coast Low or Tasman Low? 

It currently looks like it’ll be the latter, but either way we’ve got a lot of swell and wind for early next week - however the most size will mainly favour Southern NSW (and it’ll be very windy too). 

The good news for our region is that we’ll see offshore westerly winds for a few days - a little gusty at times south from Ballina - and a broad ridge north of New Zealand should maintain moderate E’ly swells through the middle of the week. We’ll see a slow dip in size but Monday and Tuesday should see anywhere from 3ft throughout SE Qld to 4-5ft across the Mid North Coast. 

Large S’ly thru’ SE swells are expected in Southern NSW around this time but the fetch will be tucked in close to the mainland and we’ll consequently see a much smaller spread of size across Northern NSW. This energy is low confidence for our region but could build to 4-6ft at a handful of south facing beaches on the Mid North Coast later Tuesday and into Wednesday; I’m expecting a little less size north from here (and not much in SE Qld). 

The longer term charts look a little more exciting in my books.

Another tropical system is expected to develop in the lower Coral Sea around Wednesday, and it’ll eventually merge somewhere in the Tasman with an approaching front from the south (around Thursday).

The merge is of less interest than the supporting ridge to the north-east (see below), which looks like it’ll broaden and strengthen considerably, generating an excellent NE thru’ E/NE swell for later Thursday, Friday and Saturday. Additionally, we’ll see a rebuilding S/SE swell from a possible low forming in the central Tasman Sea as a result of the merge. 

As such the broader picture is for a strong renewal of sizeable swells from several key sources through the end of next week, next weekend and the start of thew following week. Bloody good for winter, eh?

Have a great weekend, see you Monday!

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adsi Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 6:47pm

Only been up here for 3/4 years but i imagine this is the best run of swell for a decade ?

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Matb Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 6:54pm

I can’t remember a better winter in the last 20 years..

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freeride76 Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 7:52pm
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Rockethut Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 11:11pm

Don't you guys factor in the crowds? So far it's the worst winter to date with the covid situation creating unmanageable line-ups. Like they say, you don't know your lying in a puddle a shit until someone tells you you're lying in a puddle of shit.

For some, this is bliss and life can't get any better. For others it's a realisation of average surf and overcrowding.
For those who are not used to travelling and getting barrelled off their pip, bath in the glory of a good winter.
For others, keep the dream alive and don't lose hope that one day you will once again feast on that which seems to be no more.

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thermalben Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 8:31am

Already showing some size on the Sunny Coast.

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thermalben Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 11:33am

Check the guys paddling up the face - plenty of size at D'Bah.

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udo Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 3:51pm

Greenmount producing some sand drainers atm...

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thermalben Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 4:51pm

Snapper looking alright....

But how's the crew!

Here's a solid set:


Interesting churn pushing down the Kirra lineup too.

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burzum Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 5:01pm

Crowd is thick from snapper to bottom of rainbow. As in 10 people deep shoulder to shoulder. So hectic. Then as the bank tapers of towards Greenmount it’s a washing machine all the way to Kirra and hardly anyone. Weird banks.
I heard a chick with a British accent mouthing off about the crowds... Fuck off your part of the Problem!

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salt addict Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 10:12am

Because everywhere else was maxing out and too big for 95% of surfers on the GC. Question (and answer) is, if it was so crowded, why didnt you go somewhere else?

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thermalben Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 5:04pm

Lovely view of Snapper to Rainbow from the Greenmount cam.

Have moved the Greeny cam a little wider (as it's breaking off the bank) but it's a bit weird through there.

A few more images..




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donweather Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 5:18pm

What the fck are all those people actually hoping for out at Snapper? Unless you're constantly dropping in, how the fck does anyone in the middle of that pack actually get any waves? And why would even more paddle out in that line up FFS!!!

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thermalben Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 5:39pm

There’s been some recent research into this phenomena.

“As eastern philosophy teaches us, ‘hope’ – as in childishly wishing for things that are not – is foolish and should not be indulged in: therefore when we gaze out at 400 surfers in the Coolangatta lineup, we are, in effect, seeing 400 Buddhas on the cushion, all in different stages of awakening, surrender and growth. It’s really quite beautiful.”

https://www.swellnet.com/news/swellnet-dispatch/2020/07/23/toonalook-poi...

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Westofthelake Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 6:24pm

Classic. That very last photo reminds me that whenever I watch that cam it becomes very clear where I'd sit my buddha-ness if I went out there. (which is a consistent 99.9% chance of nevergoingtohappenanytimesoon)

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simsurf Monday, 27 Jul 2020 at 1:43pm

Thats why I haven't ridden a short board in years. Ive got from 9' to 9'3 to 9'6 and just picked up my custom 10'5 a few weeks ago. Ive had more waves in the last few months, than the last few years. Split my time between Snapper and the Spit.

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NickT Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 6:04pm

The snapper cam at 3:58pm, theres at least four waves where guys are getting spat out of barrels, crazy crowd but worth the watch

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Matb Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 6:13pm

Just don’t surf where the crowds are

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adsi Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 7:22pm

Waves were mental this arvo, haven't seen that many guys getting barrels in a long time. Snagged a few goodies myself, was very crowded but breaking in diff sections so good still get em.
Shame it was only a point break working, hopefully beachies come into play tomorrow

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davetherave Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 8:13pm

for the last30 years or so, i lived with in walking distance to the superbank. As things changed, i now found myself living from absolute north of the tweed shire, to it's south.
wave quality has been replaced by peacefulneness,
i am still getting slotted without getting run over ,thankfulness and peacefullnessness to you

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Gilligan Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 10:10pm

My Buddah and I will continue to enjoy southern solitude. Keep them camera's point north y'all xo

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thermalben Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 7:23am

Wow, what a complex system. Winds have been all over the shop, and the low's moved a little slower than expected - looks like it's currently in the vicinity of South Stradbroke Island, as winds are SW through W'ly north from the Banana Bank - but it's E/NE at the Seaway/Cool/Byron etc (see map below). Should see winds back off and then go W'ly across the Gold Coast by lunchtime.

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thermalben Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 8:14am

90mm at the Seaway (since 9am y'day) and counting, 118mm at Biggera, 123mm at North Straddie and Coomera. Impressive!

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alexsmith1 Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 9:12am

I’ve received about 60mm in cooly

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freeride76 Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 9:14am

over 100 here.
perfect top up of sub-soil moisture before spring. should get us through.

hope everyone has got their bindiis under control.

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Sprout Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 9:21am

Junk swell and N winds, meh.

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thermalben Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 10:05am

This trough is very slow moving.

There's about 47km between the Banana Bank and the Seaway, and it's taken just over three hours for the winds to swing W'ly as the trough slid past (winds went W'ly at the BB at 6am, and 9:17am at the Seaway). So, that's about 15km/hr. Should see a swing in the wind at Cooly within the next hour or so, and Byron by early afternoon.

Of course, it's a broad complex trough enveloping the east coast so this forward speed can't be extrapolated across the entire Northern NSW coast, but it certainly means we're in for a dynamic day of weather everywhere south from the Goldy. 

And it's stil bucketing down here. 103mm recorded not far from my house in the 24 hours to 9am.  

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JackStance Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 10:10am

Hi Ben, thanks for everything.

Bit of early sw on the Coffs coast this morn, with ne on the way.

Do you think the westerly will reach down this way before sunset?

cheers

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thermalben Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 10:20am

Too hard to be sure! Can't really rely on the models for specifics like this.. could be onshore at one spot and offshore 100km up the road (as it was this morning). 

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thermalben Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 10:50am

And.... it's now WSW at Cooly.

Rain has just cleared in the Tweed too. Looks like that's the end of most of the precipitation from this low.

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freeride76 Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 11:30am

heavy, heavy rain bands here

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adsi Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 5:16pm

Beachy Was fun this arvo, very steep a frames but not running very far sadly, is size gonna hold tomorrow or fade?

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freeride76 Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 6:10pm

was 100% nowhere near 4-6ft.

3ft with the odd 4footer.

fun wedges.

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Jono Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 6:40pm

I saw a photo of your point on Facebook that was well over 4ft

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freeride76 Monday, 27 Jul 2020 at 9:28am

Had a couple hours out there Sun arvo. Pretty confident on how big it was.

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Jono Monday, 27 Jul 2020 at 9:39am

Yeah once the swell started dropping it seemed to drop very quickly. On the Tweed it went from 4-6 down to 3-4 in about a 2 hour period. Can see the sharp decrease on the Tweed buoy at midday yesterday.

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thermalben Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 6:29pm

Solid 4-6ft on the Tweed. Big clean peaks this arvo.

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Solitude Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 8:14pm

Echo that

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scrotina Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 8:13pm

hey ben, the written notes suggest there should still be enough swell around monday early for gc swell magnets, but the numbers show under 1m of east swell, which is normally not enough. what do you think?

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thermalben Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 8:18pm

It's on the downward trend but there should be some fun waves across the open beaches.

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waxyfeet Monday, 27 Jul 2020 at 9:59am

Sunday was magic on the Sunny coast .

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Sprout Monday, 27 Jul 2020 at 10:57am

Jeez that fizzled quickly.

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donweather Monday, 27 Jul 2020 at 11:16am

Joys of nearshore troughs that then form into a fast moving southward low pressure system unfortunately.

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Craig Monday, 27 Jul 2020 at 11:19am

Yep.

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thermalben Monday, 27 Jul 2020 at 11:17am

Indeed. Still 4ft on the MNC but also trending down.

However, 10-12ft in Sydney!

Mental system.

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freeride76 Monday, 27 Jul 2020 at 11:19am

fucking hell it's a complex pattern coming up.

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thermalben Monday, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:24pm

OK, just had a report from a reliable source on the MCN (if anything, he undercalls) - reckons the Lower MNC is 6-8ft occ, 10ft.

So, 1-2ft SE Qld, 2ft Northern Rivers, 2-3ft Yamba, 3-4ft Coffs, 4ft+ Port Mac, and 6-8ft+ Lower MNC.

Imagine if I'd actually forecast that size range in Friday's notes (from a mainly eastern quadrant swell)? Wouldn't have believed it myself!

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Sprout Monday, 27 Jul 2020 at 2:31pm

I, for one, would welcome our new forecast overlord.

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Distracted Monday, 27 Jul 2020 at 2:05pm

Interesting, I reckon I’d be about Mid, MNC and it’s about 4-6ft at the moment, see if it kicks this arvo.
With that current wind intensity close to the south coast does it qualify as an ECL or is it still some sort of trough with an embedded low type thing?

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shwetakumar88 Monday, 27 Jul 2020 at 5:06pm

When is Monday’s surf update gettin posted?

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thermalben Monday, 27 Jul 2020 at 5:26pm

In about an hour. Sign up the to the FC Notes email and you'll be notified when they go live: https://www.swellnet.com/user

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crg Monday, 27 Jul 2020 at 7:12pm

Solid 6ft and all time here this arv at an isolated 4wd access spot. Probably the best waves I’ve had since moving here in terms of quality and consistency.

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Craig Monday, 27 Jul 2020 at 7:20pm

Yes! Saw the swell kick in this arv, gone tomorrow..

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tiger Monday, 27 Jul 2020 at 7:55pm

4-5ft at my MNC zone, but oh so perfect!