Excellent mix of swells from multiple directions
South-east Queensland and Northern NSW Surf Forecast by Ben Matson (issued Monday 10th March)
Best Days: Should be decent surf most days at most coasts, as long as you can find some protection from the predominant southerly breeze (maybe not Tuesday, south of Yamba, as we'll be between swells at this point in this region). Keep an eye out for the Wed PM/Thurs E/NE swell from TC Cook. Coupled in with a secondary SE swell it'll provide some excellent A-frames up and down the beaches.
Recap: The weekend played out as expected with easing E/SE swells across Northern NSW but a building trade swell across SE Qld that delivered excellent surf to most beaches between Far Northern NSW and SE Qld on Sunday and even this morning, though we have seen a drop in size overnight. Early winds were offshore with sea breezes each day.
This week (Apr 11 - 14)
I’m enjoying this different format for a change, so let’s keep it running through this week. Essentially, each paragraph relates to a particular swell event or other weather feature that will in some way influence our surf prospects.
Easing trade swell
The fetch responsible for our current trade swell is all gone so expect a gradual easing from this source into tomorrow. However, we are seeing some reinforcement from the tail end of the fetch further east over the weekend - which is expected to draw out the swell periods another second or thereabouts. So despite an overall easing of swell size, we may see SE Qld open beaches persist in and around the 2ft mark, with very occasional bigger 2-3ft sets at swell magnets. It's likely to be quite tidally affected too.
Tasman Low - stage 1
A Tasman Low will form off the Far Southern NSW Coast tonight. This won’t properly extend into Northern NSW’s immediate south swell window until late Tuesday so we’re not looking at a decent swell increase until Wednesday across most regions (maybe late Tuesday south of Coffs, but very wind affected). As it is, the strongest winds will develop close to the South Coast so wave heights will be slightly tempered north of Seal Rocks compared to south due ot the shadowing effects of the Hunter curve.
Surf size should build to a windy 4-6ft at south facing beaches south of Byron on Wednesday morning, then ease throughout the day (a little later in the Far North). Expect much smaller surf at protected beaches, and I’m not expecting a lot of size north of the border due to the low swell period and southerly swell direction. Outer Gold Coast points may pick up some stray 2ft+ sets, it’ll be bigger but wind affected at exposed northern ends and most Gold Coast/Sunshine Coast beaches will be smaller.
Tasman Low - stage 2
The low will move SE during Tuesday and merge with a small trough in the central Northern Tasman Sea (which will be moving south), forming a broad band of SE gales that will settle off the SW tip of New Zealand’s South Island though Wednesday and Thursday.
Whilst surf size may bottom out locally later Wednesday and early Thursday as the initial short range S’ly fetch eases and the SE fetch develops (say, peaky, lumpy leftover sets in the 3-4ft range at south facing beaches south of Byron, smaller elsewhere form this source), we’ll see a renewal of SE groundswell through Thursday afternoon back up into the 4-5ft range across Northern NSW (south of Byron) that could nudge 4-6ft into Good Friday.
This swell direction once again won’t be great for SE Qld but we should see some decent surf from this source around 2-3ft across most outer points and open beaches by Friday (smaller on Thursday), with bigger sets at exposed northern ends approaching 4ft at times to finish off the working week.
Tropical Cyclone Cook
While all of this is going on, Tropical Cyclone Cook will have crossed New Caledonia, reentered the lower Coral Sea under a SW track but then recurved to the SE, towards New Zealand. This cyclone looks really impressive with surface winds upwards of 85kts, however there are several limiting factors that will impact surf size for us.
Firstly, with no supporting high pressure ridge to the south, the fetch length will be short. In fact, the radius of 50kt+ winds around TC Cook is only modeled to be ~100km, so even under the most optimistic circumstances the actual fetch length aimed towards our region is likely to be only ~150km, if not less. By contrast, the Tasman Low is expected to display almost 1,000km of 30kt+ winds through the south-eastern Tasman Sea, with a width of 500km or more, aimed mainly towards Southern/Central NSW but also with a reasonable alignment towards Northern NSW.
Additionally, TC Cook is expected to track SE at a reasonable speed, which is perpendicular to the great circle path and will greatly reduce size prospects at the coast.
Regardless, we should see a brief flush of E/NE thru’ NE swell building through Wednesday, peaking overnight and then easing through Thursday (expect a later build/ease cycle south from Coffs). Wave heights should reach somewhere between 3ft and maybe 5ft at reliable swell magnets at the height of the swell, and keep in mind that there’ll be a healthy mix of S’ly tending SE swell at the same time too. So, there could be some interesting swell combos at appropriate beaches (local winds pending). Expect this cyclone swell to be almost completely gone by Friday.
Local winds
The Tasman Low will dominate our region all week, driving fresh and gusty S’ly winds from Tuesday through Thursday (though initially SW in SE Qld on Tuesday). The southerly will ease back for Wednesday and this weaker pressure gradient should allow for periods of early SW winds in a few locations - but not all - however for the most part expect the wind to be out of the southern quadrant.
By Friday we should see the pressure gradient slacken off at the coast, delivering light offshore winds and sea breezes just about everywhere.
This weekend (Apr 15 - 16)
Tasman Low - stage 3
A strong front pushing up the Southern NSW coast late Friday looks like it’ll be a pretty decent system, merging with the remnants of our mid-week Tasman Low in the southern Tasman Sea, restrengthening a broad S/SE fetch off Tasmania’s East Coast, building southerly swells into Southern NSW for Saturday, that will reach Northern NSW on Sunday.
Also adding energy into this complex system will be ex-TC Cook, which is currently modelled to skirt southwards down New Zealand’s East Coast later this week, rounding the southern tip to the west and pushing back into the Tasman Sea, eventually merging in some way shape or form with the Tasman Low - quite a transformation if it comes off.
Anyway, this combined fetch doesn’t look like it’ll be perfectly aimed within Northern NSW’s S'ly swell window, but early indications are for a peak over in the 4-5ft range at south facing beaches south of Byron on Sunday.
Prior to that - on Saturday - expect residual, easing SE swell, with early 3-5ft sets at south facing beaches (south of Byron) losing a foot or two during the day.
Across SE Qld we can expect smaller surf from the SE this weekend, easing from 2-3ft at outer points and northern ends Saturday morning, becoming smaller into the afternoon. The new S’ly swell for Sunday won’t do much north of the border due to the swell direction.
Long Range E’ly groundswell
However, we have another swell source expected for the weekend - a small to moderate, very inconsistent long range E/NE swell generated by a subtropical low forming well NE of New Zealand - a little less intense than TC Cook but with a broad supporting E’ly fetch to the south thanks to a southern high pressure system, displaying an impressive fetch.
Unfortunately the enormous travel distance will shave off the majority of size from this swell but it should add a minor undercurrent of E’ly swell building into the 3-4ft range through Saturday, peaking Sunday. This should complement the building S’ly swell nicely (south of the border), but there will be very long breaks between sets.
Next week (Apr 17 onwards)
Diminishing long range E’ly swell
The weekend’s inconsistent long range E’ly swell will ease through Monday though we should see occasional 3-4ft sets at exposed beaches to begin with (size will probably be a little smaller form Coffs south).
Expect wave heights to taper off through Tuesday, and by Wednesday it’ll probably be all gone. Winds are expected to freshen from the NW on Monday and Tuesday as another cold front approaches from the west
Another Tasman Low?
Mode guidance is suggesting another cold outbreak across the SE part of the country for the early to middle part of next week which should result in another Tasman Low across our immediate southerly swell window, with subsequently solid S’ly swells to dominate the second half of next week. Let’s take a closer look on Wednesday.
Comments
OH YEAH!
For what it's worth, I found the old style of notes more digestible for planning surfing as it followed the day to day advancement. It must be a pain to write like that though, jumping around between the different features.
With this style I get a sense of the different swell generating events but my goldfish brain struggles to remember the timing of the swells.
Not a dig, just my 2 cents. I really appreciate the effort.
Thanks for the feedback.
Also, I'm just trying to spice it up and make it more interesting (and more efficient) at my end. It's a bit quicker to discuss individual swell events in every day, rather than repeating a lot of the same stuff for consecutive days.
Also not a dig Ben, but I must admit I'm a bit the same goldfish way. Understand your perspective eg repeating yourself. I just want to read the notes and know what tomorrow's surf is gonna be like. Maybe a middle ground?
All good, thanks for the feedback. I'll take it on board.
Ben, you're model seems to be seriously down forecasting the TC Cook swell for late Wed and into Thurs morning compared to your written forecast above (3-5ft) and other model generated forecast outputs from other sites? Care to explain why you think this is please?
Not sure what you mean Don - if anything I have gone well above our model guidance which is essentially estimating 2ft sets from the E from this cyclone swell (which I think is a big undercall).
The BOM are also calling for "Easterly around 1 metre, increasing to 1 to 1.5 metres around midday" on Wednesday, and a similar size on Wednesday.
Haven't looked at what anyone else is calling, but are you sure that it's not substituting the short range S'ly swell over the top?
What's your estimate?
As for why - I have detailed that above. Short fetch length, unfavourable SE track, lack of a supporting ridge to the south etc.
Ah sorry Don - I took your use of the word "you're", and thought you had suggested I was downplaying the size (when you were referencing the model).
It was an apostrophe crime of the highest order (ha!), but I should have spotted it.
As for why the model is undercalling it - short fetch length would have a lot to do with it. This is where swell events from small cyclones (or other features) are often poorly resolved, as there are probably just one or two data points in the model picking up the strongest winds, unless you're using a very high resolution grid (which then limits the output duration).
I'll take a closer look though.
They're everywhere I tells ya. Doesn't usually go that way, though - usually you're is your, not the other way 'round
As for the other models, not sure what you're looking at but here's a quick look at two others.
Surfline's model has completely missed this swell (at their D'Bah data point), it's calling for a "short period SW swell" today with 5-6ft faces, and then a "mid period S/SW swell" tomorrow with 8-9ft faces. So, 2-3ft building to 3-4ft in our size terms. And out of the south (can't see their swell train breakdown as I am not a subscriber). In fact their "written" forecast says "moderate short period wind waves from the west-southwest holding for the next few days". Yeah, right.
MSW has a little more period - 4ft @ 12s from the E, which it's estimating at 4-6ft face size, so 2-3ft in our size. Yes, a little bigger than our model but not much (all due to the extra period). Though if our model had 12 second swell periods with the size it's forecasting (1.1m), I think it'd probably calculate surf size around the 3-4ft mark (or 6-8ft face size as per MSW/Surfline heights).
Thanks Ben. Sorry for the confusion on the "you're" and "your". My bad!!!
I wasn't questioning your written forecast....merely questioning why your model was playing it down considerably, when other computer model forecasts like Surfline and MSW were putting it up there around your written forecast estimates. Your model swell periods are down on what the other websites were/are forecasting also. Your model is high 9s whilst the others are up around the 12-13 at least for the forerunners. And wave buoys confirming that 12-14 sec period now.
Question.....if two swells coincide at one particular point, will the Jason 2 altimetry pick up these two swells coinciding? See spike around 9-10ft south of the 30S line in the below plot (Ben maybe you can attach this image instead of the url link as the url link image will change with the next update.
http://www.stormsurfing.com/cgi/display_jason.cgi?a=swpac_alt_06Z
Also some slight increase in actual wave heights compared to forecast around the 25S mark in this image....maybe once TC Cook pocked below New Cal he pushed more swell our way?
http://www.stormsurfing.com/cgi/display_jason.cgi?a=swpac_alt_18Z
Don.. I disagree that MSW and Surfline were "putting it up there around your written forecast estimates". Surfline missed the E'ly swell and had a S/SW dominant swell. MSW had the E'ly swell but only 2-3ft (it says 4-6ft but they measure in face feet).
Not sure why our model didn't pick up the longer periods, could be resolution. I'm surprised to see 14 seconds though as wind strengths weren't much more than 30kts, so it doesn't equate with what was in the swell window. Perhaps we're seeing some concurrent sneaky long range swell from another source (or maybe an earlier incarnation of TC Cook was just enough on the periphery to whisk past New Cal?).
Re: Jason 2 altimetry - no it can't distinguish individual swell trains, hence why I don't use it a lot for most forecasting circumstances (good for some long range locations like Indo/Hawaii/Tahiti, but useless most of the time East Coast Australia).
I never ever look at MSW or Surfline Surf Height forecasts....just the raw swell/period data.
Actually, latest ASCAT/Windsat passes are through and it doesn't look as promising for this swell.
Only a small region saw 50kt winds and they weren't very well aimed inside our swell window. The bulk of the fetch was only 30kts and the reduced fetch length suggests that our model is probably pretty close - perhaps some 2-3ft sets building later Wednesday and early Thursday.
Let's wait and see how the nexwt pass looks but right now this E/NE swell is downgraded from my point of view.
Here's a curly one: why is the initialisation fields from two different GCMs so different?
They're supposed to be initialised with the same data. But check the difference between:
GFS at 10am this morning (00Z run)
ACCESS R 10am this morning (00Z run)
MASSIVE difference in surface wind fields, which would have a huge bearing on potential surf size/period etc.
And interestingly, ACCESS R is the higher resolution model of the two. So it should be resolving the surface wind field a little better than GFS in this instance.
Still a few fun waves along the southern Goldy Points. Doesn't have much oomph though.
Great run down Ben, yeah i agree it doesn't look great from this swell source going by ascat, and remembering Pam, such a huge storm, but really did not deliver great swell, very similar position too. Longer range E swell still holding tho?
Looking nice at Snapper this morning.
Currumbin looking unreal!
There was some push in the beachies this morning. So much so that my new js is now in 2 pieces. That's 2 in a year. Anyone else experienced a case of the snaps with js boards? Was a decent chunk of water, but I'm a bit gun shy about getting another now...
On the Sunny coast? i saw a guy break a JS near Wurtulla this morning could have been you?
No mate just north of burleigh. Have heard some rumours about tendency to snap but of course I didn't think it'd happen to me... Twice...
Man, I've seen far too many snapped JS boards at Wurtulla specifically.
I know I know... boards snap, shit happens... but from personal observations (and yes, yes, my sample size is small and evidence is only anecdotal), it just seems like JS boards snap more easily than others. Saw one snapping on a 1 footer close to the rock there by ''Tulla
I have never had one. But a mate snapped a brand new JS first surf in the Maldives. It wasn't exactly sizey or heavy. Went and got a replacement and snapped that 2nd surf, again surf that wasn't special. He has stuck to CI from then on.
Mate, we live in the era of computer shaping, every single model made by the big companies can be recreated perfectly by local shapers. This wont be advertised through official channels but it's the reality. Have a candid discussion with your local shaper, get him to cut a 'model', then get it glassed a bit stronger. Save money and support local industry.
Not the right forum but....Thanks Stu, I probably should have added my mates and I have that conversation with him many a time.
I've been riding Nirvana boards for years. And have got enough to last for a few more years. Good glassing, never snapped one. All a modern shape. But Bill has retired so ill find a new bloke when the time comes.
Fore runners appear to be registering on the SC buoys.
Yeah Noosa has lots of long-lined waves, seems to be around the 1-2ft mark from Nationals through First Point and probably 3ft at the outer points.
please hang around until the morning....
Looks like I didn't need to worry about the poor ASCAT data.. size has come in bang on my expectations this afternoon. Will have a vid up shortly.
Noosa's looking just as unreal also. I'm impressed with how many waves are in each set for such a small compact fetch.
Not sure I'm seeing any 5fters yet though Ben!!!
Wait till you see the surfcam footage we have. Snapper is 3-5ft.
Noosa looks awesome too!
Head high smokers at the Pass
Bugger. Just downloaded 3 mins of HD footage from the Greenmount cam but the file is all corrupt.
Here's a quick grab to show the size though, how's the outside set!
I just had one of the funnest surfs of my life out there.
Pupils dialating out of my head due to drops the eye specialist put in them , it was like I was surfing on a planet closer to the sun.
Caught the longest wave of my life.
Crowd is utterly ridiculous now.
Not too hectic earlier.
Sik Joy !!!
And I thought I'd have to watch it with a beer from the Rainbow bay surf club. That lasted one beer and a lunch special before I was out there even if I needed a white cane.
Probably one of the only guys out there with a legit excuse to drop in.
Not that anyone would believe you.
I didn't burn a single person ...not that I saw anyway.
I only got dropped in on once - by Kate Skarrat ( I think ) - and she pulled straight off when she saw me.
Such a great day.
It's still going nuts now.
How are your eyes going Blowin,had em done yet?
And yes just had a look at the greenmount cam and its smokin,beautiful bank,not much down here yet.
My eye is rooted and getting worse , Simba.
Not the pterygium responsible apparently.
Today I'm seeing a neuro retinal specialist.
But first some more blindsided snapper. Looks like its dropped.
Sorry to hear that about your eye Blowin....and its still sloppy shit down here so lucky you scored yesterday.Keep us in informed about your eye if you can.